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Questions about TPA and UTRS notification following TPA removal
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Transphobia from User:DarwIn
Darwin was sanctioned for their conduct on the English Misplaced Pages. Controversies at the Portuguese Misplaced Pages are not relevant to that fact. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:15, 16 January 2025 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Some editors from the Portuguese-language Misplaced Pages have expressed that they cannot question anything in articles about LGBTQ personalities without being accused of prejudice. Thus, by agreeing (even partially) with the topic opened by Skyshifter, one of the main accounts from this group, you from the English-language Misplaced Pages are, in a way, endorsing this destabilizing conduct.
The objective of the topic seems so evident that, as soon as it was questioned by Yamla on December 29, 2024, Skyshifter already mentioned the conflict on the Portuguese-language Misplaced Pages.
Although I do not take away your right to debate any issue, several editors from the Portuguese-language Misplaced Pages have approached me to classify your decision as interference in another community.
Skyshifter has merits as an editor, but has a history of destabilizing actions that led to their ban on the pt.wiki. This account set the bait, and you from the English-language Misplaced Pages easily fell for it.
My ironic congratulations! Edmond Dantès 14:12, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- The actions taken against DarwIn were due to their comportment here on En.Wp. They have nobody to blame but themself if this has been disruptive at pt.wp. Simonm223 (talk) 14:15, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- But also you are making claims that we have disrupted Portuguese Misplaced Pages without any evidence that Portuguese Misplaced Pages has been disrupted at all. Simonm223 (talk) 16:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Although this does not exclude your right to debate the actions of any editor within the anglophone community, when Skyshifter mentions the events on the Portuguese Misplaced Pages, it makes the request ambiguous. Furthermore, with all due respect, I’ve learned that people judge others' actions by their effects, not by their good intentions.
- Therefore, it doesn’t matter whether you assessed Darwin’s edits (or any other editor’s) within the English Misplaced Pages; the request was interpreted by some editors from another community as being made in bad faith, and, as a result, your decision followed a rather negative interpretation.
- I will try to remedy this situation, and I hope this statement is recorded as a reflection of the indignation of some editors from the Lusophone Misplaced Pages. I also hope it serves as a warning so that you are not caught off guard, as those who wish may follow my advice. Do not be surprised if you find yourselves drawn into Skyshifter's editorial conflicts from other projects. Edmond Dantès 16:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alright. I'll feel free to disregard these vague and anonymous complaints. En.wp does not allow editors to misgender people. Have a nice day. Simonm223 (talk) 16:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I hope the other editors of English Misplaced Pages demonstrate a level of understanding superior to what you have shown in your comments; otherwise, its situation will be in jeopardy. I will try to be as clear as possible, and if I’m not, I might as well draw it: Skyshifter is part of a group of accounts that, in recent months, have been wearing down discussions on Lusophone Misplaced Pages with vague accusations of transphobia.
- When an administrator from Portuguese Misplaced Pages is "sanctioned" on another Misplaced Pages for a case that did not result in a sanction on their own, the tendency is for this decision to be interpreted as interference, which is exactly what happened.
- At the moment I make my statement, the first editor to comment shows the same line of reasoning; otherwise, they wouldn't have written that English Misplaced Pages editors respect people's gender identity and wouldn't have fallen into the trap set by the person who opened this request.
- Skyshifter may respect gender identity, and I made it clear that they has qualities as an editor, but at the same time, he created a sockpuppet account to accuse an editor, who was a victim of attacks from other sides, of admiring Hitler.
- As for Simon, I used irony in my comment, so I will ignore the irony in yours, but there's no need to wish me a good day. Edmond Dantès 17:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Conde Edmond Dantès: I think you may have been misled. DarwIn was sanctioned for his comments here on the English Misplaced Pages. The background of the conflict on ptwiki was noted as context, but the impetus to ban came from his comments on enwiki in violation of enwiki policy. Obviously we can't look the other way about misconduct here just because the dispute started elsewhere; I'm sure you would feel the same if the roles were reversed. Courtesy ping @Voorts as banning admin. -- Tamzin (they|xe|🤷) 17:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know if one strictly speaking must notify users about a discussion involving them, given that this is technically not the AN but rather its talk page, but I would have thought that it would at least be good manners to do so? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Bluntly DarwIn is not an admin on en.wp and it was entirely their comportment at en.wp that led to their topic ban. In fact our own community was quite quick to ask all parties, Skyshifter, Eduardo Gottert and DarwIn in particular, not to bring up the conflict at pt.wp as it was irrelevant to our proceedings. On the other hand, to suggest en.wp is not allowed to discipline an editor for misconduct just because they're an admin at a different project kind of is interfering with our self-governance. Simonm223 (talk) 18:08, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alright. I'll feel free to disregard these vague and anonymous complaints. En.wp does not allow editors to misgender people. Have a nice day. Simonm223 (talk) 16:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Conde Edmond Dantès: I found consensus for a topic ban and interaction ban based on consensus amongst our community that DarwIn was disruptive. Instead of apologizing for making uncivil remarks, DarwIn doubled down; I recommend that you read the thread that lead up to the ban proposal. DarwIn could've avoided this whole thing if he had known when to stop, but he dug his own grave. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:06, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Edit conflict
@The Bushranger: Can you please check the last edit I made to the main ANI page? I didn't the edit conflict I got hit with was you in the middle of revdeleting stuff; I thought I was just copy-editing a post I just made to one of the threads. I apologize in advance if I mistakenly re-added something that you'd just removed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:59, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think you re-added anything, but it did basically double up the entire board somehow! I've reverted it - go back and re-add whatever you needed to fix! - The Bushranger One ping only 02:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I just undid your edit. It essentially duplicated ANI, from 905,944 bytes to 1,792,020 bytes. Woodroar (talk) 02:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for that and my apologies. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- No worries at all! Believe me, editing ANI always makes my palms sweat. I don't know that kinda stuff doesn't happen all the time.... Woodroar (talk) 02:08, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for that and my apologies. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Are y'all just editing the entire ANI page or something? FWIW I haven't had an edit conflict since I started using convenient discussions, which lets you reply directly to comments and sections (and edit your own comments, as I'm doing with this addendum) without going to the source text editor. JoelleJay (talk) 05:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I believe it was mostly revolving around editing taking place during a WP:REVDEL, which of course impacts the entire page. TiggerJay (talk) 05:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
User:UtherSRG has deleted my draft for no reason
Yeah so my draft has been deleted because a group of administrators have decided to single me out. The Subject was notable, but once again admins are acting in bad faith. Edward Myer (talk) 02:11, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Edward Myer: have you notified UtherSRG that you've opened this AN discussion?
- Accusations of bad faith against others (admins or not) requires evidence. Where is that?
- You would have a much more positive experience here if you didn't consider everyone as your enemy. Just saying. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Consider posting the name of your draft and wikilinking it so folks don't have to go digging. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:29, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll save you the trouble and tell you this is a spurious report: Draft:Bruse Wane. Uther moved it from mainspace to draft. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 07:35, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- How ? Edward Myer (talk) 11:16, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Edward Myer - May I suggest reading WP:1AM, as that seems appropriate here since it had had multiple editors and administrators weigh in on this article already including a failed AfD and multiple attempts to bring it to the mainspace. TiggerJay (talk) 07:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Why do you say "for no reason"? The reason was clearly stated, and was not because a group of admins has decided to single you out or because of bad faith. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Who is really here to help
Thank you to those that are actually trying to genuinely help me. We were all in experienced at one point. I started the draft article for the subject in 2016, being simply a fan of the subject. No personal connection. I returned almost 9 Years later, almost a decade and the climate on wikipedia towards new editors has not changed. Meanwhile I have been solicited in my email by individuals claiming they can help me with this for the right price. I'm not the subject so please stop. Thanks again for those offering constructive input that can help me grow, complete this article and move on from to other things on wikipedia. Edward Myer (talk) 11:15, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I doubt that the people sending the emails read this page. You seem to have decided not to pay, but anyone else who gets such emails please do not pay anything. If a subject is shown to be notable then they can get an article for nothing; if not they can't at any price. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:33, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- And for anyone who hasn't yet read WP:SCAM, I recommend it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)