This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Cowman109 (talk | contribs) at 22:47, 20 November 2006 (→New cases page: Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
Revision as of 22:47, 20 November 2006 by Cowman109 (talk | contribs) (→New cases page: Reply)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff) Shortcut- ]
New sections at bottom, please.
Archives |
---|
The new case templates!
As some of you may have noticed, we have now implemented a template for cases that specifically allows the bot to do three things - it lists the category, lists the name of the mediator on the case page, and lists the status of the case as how you would like to say it. Here is how it works:
At the top of the page you'll see this:
{{Medcabstatus |status = open |article = |requestor = |parties = |mediators = |comment = }}
Status There are three options for status: new, open, and closed. These affect the listing of the case - new is in new cases of course, open goes into the open cases section, and closed simply delists the case (we're still not archiving cases yet, so they're hiding in the closed cases category).
Article Here you can list the name of the article, the source of the dispute. At the moment you just write the name of the article with ] around it, so you can list multiple links if needed. This does not affect anything, but just lists the name of the article at the top of the case page.
Requestor, here you can put the name of the requester - once again, it's just to make the top of the page look nice and organized.
Parties, here you list the parties, same as above.
Mediators, the mediators listing shows up on the case list. Preferably you could use the format {{user|username}}, but anything works.
Comment, this also shows up on the case list. If you feel it is necessary, please put a short comment here about the status of the case, such as needs new mediator, or waiting for parties to respond. This is entirely optional, however, though in some cases it is good to signal to other mediators that there may be some help needed.
And that's about it! Any questions? This should be implemented shortly into the case list, and the format of it is still changeable should any issues arise. Cowman109 20:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for putting this together; I really like the automatic mdoerator and status listings on the main page that this generates. Very nice. Mike Christie (talk) 14:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, dear, I didn't mention him - thank User:Ericj for all of this, as he's the mastermind behind the bot and the recent changes :D. Cowman109 14:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for mentioning me! I changed your information slightly, after your requests, so the ] is now needed in the article link. It makes it possible to list multiple pages, too. It doesn't matter if they're not linked, though. Tell me if there are any problems. --Ericj 22:20, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, thanks, Ericj; very nice. One enhancement occurs to me that would be handy; is it possible to have the display on the main page show the date of last update to the template or the case? Automatically, if possible. That way it would be possible to see cases that appear to have gone inactive, or at least where the mediation may have gone inactive. Mike Christie (talk) 03:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ahah, Ericj actually brought up the possibility of getting some sort of color code system or something similar that could show case pages that were left unupdated, but I felt that when mediation occurs on the talk page of articles instead of on the case page, the information could be skewed. We'll see what others think, though :). Cowman109 03:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way to make the status box so it doesn't overlap other stuff on the case page? On my case, the box overlaps the first heading on the page, and the box reminding people about etiquette. --Aguerriero (talk) 01:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hm, I tried moving it down below the header in preview and that seems to fix it, but I think that might also make it look worse in other cases if it's done that way - the text in the etiquette box still remains readable; it's just pushed to the side. We can always play around with the position though and see which works in all situations.. Cowman109 01:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Just add a bunch of <br> tags below the template, and it'll fix the format-vomit. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 20:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Assistance needed
I am taking an extended leave from Misplaced Pages immediately due to personal circumstances. I need someone to take over my one current case, at Yoshiaki Omura. The mediation is ongoing at Talk:Yoshiaki Omura/Mediation. The participants have been very civil and communicative, and I have just been guiding them through discussion each of their citations, which is where most of the contention lies.
No edit wars or personal attacks have surfaced, although just within the last few days another editor has come in and posted a large bit of text on the Talk page that I have not had time to fully read or understand. The editor also edited the article, and was reverted and referred to the mediation by another involved party. If someone can take this I would really appreciate it; I don't want to just leave them hanging. Please contact me ASAP if you can take it with any other questions (most information is on the mediation page) and I will post to the mediation page that I am leaving. --Aguerriero (talk) 21:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm seeing if I can help out the case, but I'm busy during weekdays so a more active mediator is still requested. Cowman109 13:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I'll take it. Misplaced Pages's False Prophet holla at me Improve Me 18:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)sorry, I don't know what to do with it. Its not on a regular medcab page, and it is not going easy for me to take over. Sorry again, Misplaced Pages's False Prophet holla at me Improve Me 18:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'll include this case in the open tasks section, if that's ok. Addhoc 13:19, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm workin on it - Che Nuevara 23:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Where's the backlog?
We have no new cases? How can that be? That boggles me :D. And hey, that rhymes - wee! Cowman109 21:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Request for help.
I recently took on a mediation case based at Talk:Conseil scolaire de district du Centre-Sud-Ouest, but am not getting anywhere. Both parties accept my mediation in principle, but maintain the other is entirely at fault and should stop making what they see as damaging edits. Every time I attempt to calm things down, another person posts inflammatory accusations, provoking fury from the other side. There seems little I can do. Should I close the mediation? Clearly there is a case here. Should I transfer it to the Mediation Committee? If so, how? Should I keep trying to engage with these editors, none of whom appears to be acting in bad faith? What should I do? Dev920 00:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- I took a look at this when it was still in the new cases section and honestly, I'd have to advise they go to ArbCom. No, it's not pretty for either of them, but the dispute (which is basically namecalling, etc) will be settled. WP:RFAR has directions as to how to file a case, have one of them do it. :] Anyhow, that's what I'd suggest. Cheers. --Keitei (talk) 01:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Help!
Hello all – Real life suddenly decided to interfere with my Wiki-life, and I'm going to have to take a health break/family leave for an indefinite period of time. Because of this, I need someone to take over my one open mediation case at Misplaced Pages:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-09-12_Electrical_engineering_page. We had an automobile accident about 10 days ago, and some complications have developed because of it; also, a family member is hospitalized, and her needs take precedence over Misplaced Pages. I won't be back here full-time for at least two weeks, and the two parties to this mediation can't wait that long. I'm sorry to bail and run like this, but I also don't want to leave two people waiting on me for an indefinite period. Thanks very much, and I'll let you all know when I'm back, hopefully by the end of October. BaseballBaby 01:55, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- I hope everything works out! I'll look into the case shortly. Cowman109 02:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- I won't be able to look into the case due to family matters, so someone else will need to take the case. Cowman109 22:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I knew it!
There really is a cabal! --WikiSlasher 14:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe that's what they want you to think. - Che Nuevara 17:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Who's they... --WikiSlasher 08:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Notification templates
I dont know if anyone has done this, but I created templates to place on user's talk pages and the talk page of the article itself.
This is the template for user's talk pages:
- {{User:Nwwaew/Mediation User Template|page-name|case-page-location}} ~~~~
where page-name is the location of the page in dispute and case-page-location is the location of the mediation case page.
This is the template for the article's talk page:
- {{User:Nwwaew/Mediation Page Template|case-page-location}} ~~~~
where case-page-location is the location of the mediation case page.
So far, the only problem I've noticed is that you have to put in the ~~~~ manually when you put the message on a page. Any comments? Nwwaew(My talk page) 22:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- You're supposed to have to put the ~~~~ in manually I thought - you do with most templates anyway --WikiSlasher 10:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- Templates can add the markup: <noinclude><nowiki></noinclude>~~~~<noinclude></nowiki></noinclude>, which, ultimately ends up as ~~~~ on the page. Then when you save it, the server goes ahead and translates that into your signature. ~Kylu (u|t) 16:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Joining
Hello, I'd like to join the Cabal, and I've added the page to my watchlist. What else do I have to do? Is that it? I would appreciate some help; thank you in advance. | AndonicO Talk 13:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- You're going to find this a bit simplistic of an answer, but it's true: Find a case you're interested in, sign up as a mediator, and start. Really. I'd like to suggest reading over Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Suggestions for mediators first, but that's technically an optional step rather than mandatory. You can add your name to the list of mediators if you'd like, also. Just make sure you stay neutral during the mediation. Thanks! ~Kylu (u|t) 18:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Another mediator needed
Hello. I'm currently mediating the case on Ruckus Network (see Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-09 Ruckus Network and Talk:Ruckus Network/Mediation). However, I'm operating in a different time zone than the participants, so the discussion often heats up when I'm asleep. Thus, I'm requesting another mediator (preferably in the U.S./Canada time zones) to help out. Many thanks. Gzkn 01:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'll look in on the debate and see if I can figure out what's transpired to this point. Please let me know anything that can help me better understand the current situation. →Bobby← 13:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
MedcabBot
Did MedcabBot just break? --Ideogram 03:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- No idea. They've approved my toolserver account but it's not active yet, and they haven't +bot'd KyluBot that I know of, so I can't kick on my botscript yet. Hopefully soon. ~Kylu (u|t) 03:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's definitely broken. I closed a couple cases half an hour ago and it has not updated. Who can fix it? --Ideogram 03:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Wolf needs to do it, but he's not on chat nor otherwise online, looks like. Mind leaving him a memo to fix the poor thing? ~Kylu (u|t) 03:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
It's back! --Ideogram 01:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
New cases page
I have created a new version of the cases page at Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/New that removes the edit links, since the lists are not supposed to be edited directly. Please make sure MedcabBot can work with this new page and, if there are no objections, I will replace the old page. --Ideogram 06:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- That looks great! I have no idea whether that would work with the bot though - I would assume it would, but I'll see if I can hunt down Ericj and ask him. Cowman109 22:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Ataturk
Hello, I'd appreciate some help with the Ataturk request. The page is currently blocked for all editing and was the subject of an edit war. --AW 17:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)