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Barnstar

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Your service to Misplaced Pages is most deserving of this barnstar. Good job! Sharkface217 21:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:questions

Warning Warning: This conversation is getting too hot to handle! Back off!

Hi - awesome answers. Your nom statement made me worry that you hadn't thought it through (:like my offer of marriage...:) or perhaps half-hearted. Turns out you're the best of the lot! Good luck - you have my vote. Rama's arrow 20:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

You do know you're going to be voting for each candidate separately, right? I hadn't registered an account when it happened last time, but I was watching the elections, and it appears that Jimbo wants us to use the same voting procedures this time. Anywho, no, I figure you really should look for a nice girl on your own hemisphere perhaps. It'd certainly make performing your marital duties easier. ~Kylu (u|t) 21:37, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes I do know about the voting, but I certainly wish you'd get the job. And I'm sure we'd figure a way out if you'd give it a shot... but it looks like its 0-1 on my scorecard, with 999 more to go. I know I'm a rookie, but a first ball - first strike always hurts. Rama's arrow 22:57, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I really don't have any intention of marrying anyone. :( ~Kylu (u|t) 03:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Living in sin is fine with me. --Ideogram 09:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I was just fooling around - I apologize if this was inappropriate. I have the utmost respect for Kylu and wouldn't dream of making improper/indecent comments or behavior against any living/non-living being. At the same time, I can't prevent half the men in the world from feeling desolate after reading Kylu's response... Rama's arrow 13:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I once insulted a rather mean rock... I probably shouldn't have. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 19:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • (General answer) Rama's Arrow: calm down, man. :) I'm not insulted or anything, somewhat flattered, slightly embarrassed, but it'll pass. Ideogram: I'm really not surprised. :D CakeProphet: Did you ever find the rock and apologize? ~Kylu (u|t) 02:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Aquene

Do you know that user? She seems to have just appeared out of no where and has commented that she knows you. Does she? (I only ask this because she gave me a message on behalf of you, see my talk page if you don't know what I'm talking about.) Cbrown1023 02:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I know her very well, Cbrown1023, and trust her implicitly. ~Kylu (u|t) 02:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the clarification. Cbrown1023 03:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The only reason I ask is because I've learned not to trust the internet. A person could state they are are 9-year-old girl but really be a 43-year-old man. Cbrown1023 03:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Where Men are Real Men, Women are Real Men, and Little Girls are FBI Agents, right? (author unknown) ~Kylu (u|t) 03:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

lol. yeah. You like quotes, don't you? Cbrown1023 03:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

That specific one always yanks a giggle from me. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 03:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...

Thanks. It was either withdraw, or serve two masters. :-) I stumbled across a biography of someone in my field (not a BLP -- he passed away 10 years back) I never would have expected to have been written the way it was, and realized I couldn't be a WP:BOLD editor and a distant, balanced Arbitrator. Some people can do that -- I can't. I'd end up being too close to the metal. :-) Maybe once some of those things are all cleared up -- like ArbCom elections 2052? -- QTJ 07:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

If nothing else, at least you decided this before taking the job, I'm hoping that those who win the ArbCom seats have given this as much (if not more) forethought. Good luck! ~Kylu (u|t) 19:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
As my step-father used to say, "There's no such thing as good luck, only good judgment." Um, and now it appears I need some of that. ;-) can I ask for a "random act of kindness"? The situation is this: I know a lot of people. Some, alas, have biographies here. (As seen on my Q&A during my short lived ArbCom bid thingy.) As it stands, am now feeling very awkward, and in the spirit of keepin' it real ... I want to pre-emptively diffuse the situation. In short: I was asked if I knew if a User was an IRL who is also my friend and who has a biography here. My response to that is here. (In short: "I donno the IRL of that other user and I don't care to speculate. That's not what I'm here at Misplaced Pages for.") But now this. As the user who asked me this question is currently the subject of an open ArbCom case (oh man, this place is so complex -- are we there yet, are we there yet? -- oy) -- I do not want things to escalate in any way. Is this a case where an AMA member might be able to provide a neutral buffer between me and this situation, due to the clear conflict of interest I might be seen as having (but in fact don't -- but whatchagonnado?) Thanks for any insight that might help me keep this at arm's length without totally going silent so that I appear to be (egad, appearances!) evasive. Cheers. -- QTJ 20:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
If it's okay with you, I'm experiencing a significant amount of QRM at the moment and will have to retry later. At first glance, it appears though that there's a play being made for WP:AUTO. I would assume that, as long as the changes to the articles in question by the subject of the articles follow WP:RS, WP:V, and WP:NPOV (the last being the most important in this case) then there's not a whole lot to dispute except for details. Will ping you later. ~Kylu (u|t) 21:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. In the meantime, I'll be chill and try to keep my sense of humor about life. Cheers. -- QTJ 21:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I've looked at it again, and ... er, how do you get into these messes again? Anywho, advice: Contact your favorite AMA rep, preferably someone who already has ArbCom experience. Since this is dipping into ArbCom's territory, and I'm still an active candidate, I'm hesitant to give you direct advice. I'm going to suggest that you just contact an arbitrator who is a friend, or at least someone you trust, tell them everything that pertains to the situation, and the two of you together work on a draft response. You tell what you think the advocate needs to know, the advocate culls the wheat from the chaff, and hopefully you're left with something approaching an appropriate, honest, and concise response to the questions. If you end up in a situation where you're feeling undue pressure by a troll, pov-pusher, or other unpleasant character, don't feel you're forced to answer immediately, if at all. Chat with your advocate, get some outside opinions, and reply when calm. I wish you luck. 73. ~Kylu (u|t) 00:19, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Um .. how? By being open? ;-) Thanks for the tips. Good luck with the race! :-) -- QTJ 00:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Touché. ~Kylu (u|t) 00:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
¡Olé! -- QTJ 20:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

3RR block

As a confirmed sock puppet used to violate 3RR, shouldn't User:NewfoundlandLad be indef blocked? Or, at the very least, not be given a block message that encourages him to return in 24 hours? Kafziel 14:08, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

That's actually something Daniel Bryant asked me earlier. I looked over WP:SOCK#Circumventing_policy, WP:3RR, and WP:BP#Guide_to_blocking_times, and only on the WP:BP page do I find that "sockpuppets used for violating policy should be blocked permanently." The question is, is the sole purpose of the account to violate 3RR? They're currently under the 24-hour block, and if people think that the sock is for abuse only, then as it currently stands the block can easily be changed to indef. I took that into account, I have no doubts that the user knows that what he did was incorrect, and therefore left the block message open so it could be clarified later. As is my usual statement, my administrative actions are quite open to discussion and reversal/modification by any other admin, and I'm open to being swayed by others also.
Short form: It can be changed by anyone else, or if you'd like, just tell me what you think I should do. ~Kylu (u|t) 18:08, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, I've always understood SOP to be that the socks are indef blocked. Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry#Dealing with violations supports that. And the {{sockpuppetproven}} tag (which should be applied to NewfoundlandLad's userpage) doesn't really leave any wiggle room as far as blocking goes. The 24 hour block for Cjk91 (for violating 3RR) seems appropriate, but we don't need to let the sock keep operating. He'll always be able to create new sockpuppets, but we can still indef block the confirmed disruptive one he's already used. Kafziel 18:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks very much for all your help! Kafziel 18:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
de nada. ~Kylu (u|t) 18:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh my, saw this on my watchlist – thought Kylu got blocked for 3RR. :P — Nearly Headless Nick 13:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm still working on that one, Nick. Haven't found anything worth getting blocked for yet. ~Kylu (u|t) 20:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Protection of LostNav

Your protection of LostNav was utterly unwarranted.--Blue Tie 14:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. I'm afraid I disagree: I count five revert/counter-reverts on that template (Template:LostNav btw for those following at home) in a span of four hours. While there is no 3RR involved, there is apparently unresolved dispute which you need to work out on the talkpage. Once this is done, please feel free to contact any admin and ask them to unprotect the page. As you feel the protection is unwarranted, I'll avoid modifying its protection status in the near future, Please note that frequent changes to templates cause all transcluded pages to have to update, which means that edit wars (even small ones, on templates) can bog down the Wikimedia servers. ~Kylu (u|t) 20:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Um... first of all the reverts were on different matters, not the same matter. Second, the "dispute" if there is one (that is yet to be seen) is in discussion on the talk page -- prior to your protection. It's a bit heavy handed to protect when the people are working on things and the reverts are not for the same things. --Blue Tie 20:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. ~Kylu (u|t) 20:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

(Just a note to myself on the situation: ,) ~Kylu (u|t) 01:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

delusions of bothood

Thanks for the barnstar! :-D I'm sure there's a story behind the vandalism, something about the particular image the vandal was using, but hopefully we'll never know what it is. Cheers, FreplySpang 23:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe he's just really excited that they're publishing his life story? ~Kylu (u|t) 23:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

User talk:71.252.218.241

Heh. I was actually wondering why the vandalism stopped; just noticed the block. Thanks; I was assuming I'd have to wait for the next bit of nonsense and go to WP:AIV. -- Jim Douglas (contribs) 00:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

no prob. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 01:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

On another matter

I'd like to be helpful in the IT/CS topics around here, but only if it doesn't require the kinds of heavy reworks I've ended up doing, and isn't purely e-paper-pushing. Any suggestions? Places I could go for suggestions? Maybe something really, really non-political, like replacing double spaces with single spaces? ;-) -- QTJ 01:18, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Have you joined Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Computer science yet? ~Kylu (u|t) 01:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Well! There we go! Am now! :-) Thanks. -- QTJ 01:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Lifted

Hi there - I lifted your protection on Nancy Pelosi. It's not clear to me how BLP is being applied. Is there a concerted effort by anonymous users to add libelous content to the article? --HappyCamper 21:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

It was a request by a non-admin who was doing rcpatrol: Apparently during the elections, people kept putting in such things as her being Speaker of the House when she was not yet so (e.g. Blnguyen's revert). While I doubt Ms. Pelosi would bring legal action (it's not exactly libelous information, even if incorrect) it was still annoying enough that I added semiprotection. As always, I'm 0ww/0own and any admin that wishes to may feel free to lift article protection, etc... Okay, well, unprotecting WP:RFO might get you into trouble, but not by me. Anywho, have a great night! ~Kylu (u|t) 00:08, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Your questions for John Reid

Kylu: I agree with your having asked John Reid the same questions he asked everyone else - but I think you might have overlooked that Carcharoth already asked him the same three questions and they were answered several hours ago. For that reason, you might want to delete them as duplicative. I would have done it myself, but I hate to tamper with a candidate page. Regards, Newyorkbrad 01:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Ack, you're absolutely right! I asked John Reid if he was going to post the same questions to his own candidate questions (User talk:John Reid#ArbCom elections: Your questions and candidacy) and he said... well, you can read his response. I honestly just made a mistake and didn't realize that Carcharoth beat me to it. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I assumed that was exactly what happened, and didn't want it to become a big deal. Newyorkbrad 01:19, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Couperin

La viola Mak (talk) 06:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Voila, une viola! Merci beaucoup mon ami! J'aurai ceci bientot... ~Kylu (u|t)
Crap! Stupid finger-dyslexia! Mak (talk) 06:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
n'est ce pas une problemme. ~Kylu (u|t) 06:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Award of a Barnstar

The Barnstar of Diligence
The Barnstar of Diligence is hereby awarded for services as Coordinator of the (possibly nonexistant) Mediation Cabal.

Awarded by Addhoc

Hey, thanks! :) I wonder how many people are going to take a few seconds before they get the "possibly nonexistant" part. *snicker* ~Kylu (u|t) 20:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

TOCs

I have a feeling that it might not achieve the effect that is intended. Well, I think most importantly is that all the topics will follow in a line, although I haven't tried it. Just a surmiss.100110100 00:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, just something to keep people talking and civil. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 01:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Bae Yong Yoon

Yes, it can be closed. Sorry for not doing it myself. David Mestel 15:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied to on David.Mestel's talk page. 207.145.133.34 00:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Reply

Item 2; The parties were not informed because I closed the case due to the copyright Geo. 16:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied to on Geo.plrd's talk page. 207.145.133.34 00:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Case status and bots

Thanks for clearing that up. So are you saying that I should change the case status on the page listing all the cases, but not on the page that actually discusses the particular case? HeBhagawan 11:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

o.O;; Replying on user's talkpage. 207.145.133.34 15:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Funny things

This is an indef.blocked user still caring about Misplaced Pages. I am not using sockpuppets to evade my block, because I prefer the straightforward way.

User:Williamwells, a friendly newbie, previously replied to my initial posting on his talk page here, telling me to "please respond when you have a chance". Despite that, user:Jakew has been reverting me several times from Williamwells' user talk with what I feel is the (in this case) lame excuse of "banned editors may not edit". Lame, because I believe Jakew has a keen personal interest in preventing communication between me and Williamwells, because Jakew falls into the WP:DE category to some extent. My question to you: Is it ok to just revert edits (admittedly made by a banned editor) from another user's talk page, especially when the other user has clearly stated interest in discussing with me? I'd esp. like to warn Williamwells not to feed the "creative troll".

Likewise, the admin that blocked me (for insufficient reasons in an out-of-process personal vendetta) has reverted another non-trolling posting I made here, with a similar illicit intention of keeping people uninformed and separated. Coincidentally, those two users are good wikifriends.

And please mind this, and maybe also this. Whether a non-blocked user wants to talk to me on his user talk page, is irrelevant... fair enough, but nobody has been reverting the many minor typo edits I have been contributing since I was blocked...

Funny things are happening. And while you are aspiring for an ArbCom seat, I figured you might want to take notice of some of those things and maybe even comment. If not, just delete or leave this, I really don't want to bother innocent people who are not discreetly working against Misplaced Pages from within. Mind you: I am not trying to get unbanned. I am basically doing what I have always done as a Wikignome: minor copy editing here and there. And I'd still be happy with that if it weren't for my relatively new insight into some of the darker aspects of Misplaced Pages. 84.44.172.126 01:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

PS: Jakew even went so far as to blatantly lie to Williamwells. 87.78.146.7 01:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Just as admins aren't ever required to perform blocks, nobody's required to revert edits (banned user or not). More to the point, unless they're obviously harassing me, I don't particularly feel inclined to revert or ignore users who post on my talkpage, banned or not. 578's posted here more than once, and seems nice enough once you get past the whole vandalism thing. They may well have a good point. Anyway, while points are the subject, let me get to mine: If you'd like to provide an email address, I can leave a note for Williamwells to contact you if you'd like. Obviously, I'm not going to pass notes along to everyone, but if it's just your desire to leave someone a method of getting in contact with you, no big deal. Anywho, there's not much point in trying dispute resolution if you're indefbanned from Misplaced Pages, as you tend to be seen as pariahs. Oh, a note to visitors: Please don't revert edits from this talkpage unless they're vandalizing it or harassing me. I'd appreciate it. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 03:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks Kylu, for being a wonderful role-model. Rama's arrow 03:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Yikes! Er, I mean, thanks! ~Kylu (u|t) 04:11, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

MFD:Esperanza

Is this real!?! Geo. 20:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

It was real. You are a little late. --Ideogram 20:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
See also: Misplaced Pages talk:Esperanza: Notice: Due to the nomination for MfD, the entire Esperanza organization is under a major overhaul. All members are encouraged to express their opinions here., Kim Bruning closed the discussion as No consensus. I'd suggest, if you like Esperanza and want to keep it, that you first read through the MfD debates, figure out what things are the most disruptive to Encyclopedia-building, and correct them in the various Misplaced Pages:Esperanza/Overhaul subpages. ~Kylu (u|t) 22:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
What do you think?--Chili 01:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I think the basic goal of Esperanza is just fine. I don't think that Misplaced Pages needs such distractions as a games lounge on Misplaced Pages. Every edit we make should go towards making this project better. I've thought about it a bit, and personally I think I'd prefer to have something similar to what Esperanza is now, maybe even adding Java/Javascript games and such... just not on here. While some of the Wikimedia sites start getting close to be community sites instead of projects (Say, Meta and Enwiki) I think I'd encourage perhaps community.wikimedia.org or perhaps just move it to a Wikia instead, where the traffic will help Misplaced Pages and still allow people to just have fun when needed. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Taiwan

Can you please semi-protect Taiwan. Anonymous IP's are revert-warring. --Ideogram 00:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, done. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Portal:China

Please protect Portal:China and subpages Portal:China/Categories, Portal:China/China topics, Portal:China/Did you know, Portal:China/Intro, Portal:China/Related portals, Portal:China/Selected article, Portal:China/Selected biography, Portal:China/Selected picture, Portal:China/Subportals, Portal:China/Things you can do, and Portal:China/WikiProjects. User is making large-scale changes without stopping to resolve objections to previous changes first. See Portal talk:China for details. --Ideogram 00:31, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, not done. Honestly, it looks like you've got a dispute regarding the portal with AQu01rius. Please see Misplaced Pages:Protection policy#Uses for cases when page protection is appropriate. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand. What do you want me to do? Start an edit war so it can be protected? Make more arguments that he can ignore because I am not edit-warring with him? Give up and let him take over the Portal? --Ideogram 02:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I want the two of you to stop and talk to each other. Bold, Revert, Discuss. If he makes a bunch of terrible decisions, revert it and discuss. If he doesn't want to discuss, get another member of the community to discuss it with him. If he ends up being disruptive, he'll be blocked for that, and you have another chance to discuss. If someone doesn't want to discuss things, they really don't need to be editing at all. Personally, I think if it continues, you should give the dispute resolution process a try: Even if it doesn't work, since you're a Mediation Cabal mediator, it'll give you valuable insight into the process from the eyes of an involved party, and therefore be worth it even if the DR process fails to satisfy. Sorry. ~Kylu (u|t) 02:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

Hello, and thanks =)

For your second comment, I am not online 24/7 after all. I'll start listing out in detail about the situation in Portal talk:China. AQu01rius (User • Talk) 07:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

IRC woes

Apparently when I attempted to get a more recent version of Xchat2, my IRC client decided to die on me. I tried reinstalling it in different areas, uninstalling multiple times, resetting computer, etcetera, but apparently Xchat2 has left me. Do you have any other recommendations of a client I could use? :/ Cowman109 17:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

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