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What belongs on this page, and what does not.

According to WP:TPG "The purpose of a Misplaced Pages talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page." This means that it is a discussion about me and my user page. Please do not start discussions related to pages I edit here. Instead place those discussions on their talk pages so that other editors may find them. In accordance with that I will place any comment not dealing with me or my user page on the appropriate talk page for the subject and Archive it. Also inactive sections will be archived without warning. Thank you for your help in this matter. Kilz 23:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Archive

November 2, 2006

Swiftfox controversial edits

Please use the talk page before reinserting this controversy, as fully justified on the talk page. I will not get into a third edit war with you. I left your banner there to avert the second one, even though you have not justified it. You cannot threaten me with vandalism for just editing the article, especially for removing unreferenced controversies. I have done my best to talk to reach consensus with you on these matters, but you cannot stop me from editing to remove this NPOV problem. Widefox 22:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

How many times do I have to tell you to discuss Swiftfox on the Swiftfox page. If you continue this I will seek to have you blocked from my talk page. Kilz 23:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe this is the correct place to talk with you when time is of the essence (because you get the alert), and in fact in general. Also, I talk with you to prevent an edit war, which I also believe is the best thing to do. Widefox 23:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Swiftfox has its OWN talk page. Do not Discuss Swiftfox or its editing on this page.Kilz 23:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

You are continuing with an edit war with this edit . This is the third time recently 1. you were banned 2. I yielded 3. I yield now, but I want this noted that you refuse to edit in a civil way and reach consensus before making these controversial edits, causing edit warring. I will not get involved in these edit wars, but your refusal to abide by the guidelines I note here for review. Widefox 23:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I was banned, because you filed a sockpupet case against me for a not loged in edit. I think whoever banned me had no idea that I had a static IP. Kilz 00:08, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

WR -- Wizardry Dragon (Talk to Me) (Support Neutrality on Misplaced Pages) 23:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Might it help if Kilz slightly modified the link to his archive page, to show it's an archive above Widefox 23:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Wait one cotton picking second. You (Widefox) started by blanking out a section still under discussion. I am just improving on the orignal. This is not a revert war. You (Widefox) seem to think you can edit away without talking to me or waiting untill the discussion is done. But on the other hand want me to discuss in detail every edit to the page. This is a double standerd that I will not follow. Either you wait untill we agree before editing, or I edit without discussing things with you. Kilz 23:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Civil1 -- Wizardry Dragon 23:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

User Wizardry Dragon, I dont know what you are doing on my talk page. But you have said I have removed something when the page is archived. You are now helping Widefox in taking over my talk page for the purpose of using it as a Swiftfox page when it has its own.Kilz 23:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

What part? Again I point you to the pages archive. The reason I archived it is user Widefox insists on using my talk page as a Swiftfox talk page when the article has its own. Kilz 23:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

removing Swiftfox author

(This section was copied onto the Swiftfox talk page where it belongs, please place all discussions about the Swiftfox article on the Swiftfox talk page. Kilz 12:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC) ) (Copied from my talk page to the articles page Kilz 12:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC) ) (moved back here, where I originally put it Widefox 15:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC))

I do not understand your edit . You have removed the authors name. I have replaced this (see my edit summary), to keep this in the same style of the other firefox build articles. Please do not remove information without giving a reason, and also changing from the style of equivalent articles. Widefox 12:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I thought it read better. I also dont check other articles to make sure they all match. But I have checked and you are correct they all are written this way. But I dont think I am held in my edits to check other pages of Misplaced Pages on how they are writtenKilz 12:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I am glad we can agree on this. I do recommend looking and editing other articles, so that you may get more perspective on the style issues, especially emphasis of issues. Widefox 12:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


Vandalism of this page

I cannot find some of my remarks. You have blanked with this edit and also moved discussion somewhere else (I haven't found my comment yet). You have already been warned not to do this. Widefox 13:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest you take a look in the archive. As #5 accusation says "archiving current edit wars away" I assume you know where to find the comment you are referenceing. Its in the archive.Kilz 22:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I have reported this, it has been done multiple times - before and after multiple warnings:

  • 1. selective blanking (replaced with opposite)
  • Widefox gave warning
Exists on my Archive page.
  • 2. selective blanking (to show contempt)
Exists on my Archive page. I was in process of archiving everything because user Widefox insists on using my page as a Swiftfox page.
  • 3. selective blanking
Exists on my Archive page. I was in process of archiving everything because user Widefox insists on using my page as a Swiftfox page.
  • 4. archiving (without proper link)
  • Wizardry Dragon gave warning
As long as the page is linked I know of no rule that says what form the link should be.
  • 5. (8 minutes later) archiving current edit wars away
On November 2, 2006, I archived the Oct 28, 2006 Section. No new comments had been made in 2 days. I know of no rule that says you cant Archive things than have been inactive 2 days.Kilz 22:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • 6. moving discussion elsewhere (apparently not completed removal)
On the contrary, this is where you removed my comment. The comment signed by me at 12:32 was never made on my talk page. You removed it from the Swiftfox talk page where it was made. This section still exists, but you pasted my comment made on the Swiftfox talk page at 12:32 here. There is no 12:32 edit by me here, in fact you link to the edit on the Swiftfox talk page. Kilz 22:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

At this point I will also collate the personal attacks you have made on me and the Swiftfox author, so they may all be considered in context. Widefox 15:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

There has been no selective blanking. That you cant find your comment in pages and pages of comments to me is not suprising. I suggest you look for them and stop making false accusations. Kilz 17:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Personal Attacks

WP:NPA violations:

  • "I think I know how unethical he is, and know he will lie to win." (about Swiftfox author)
I have causght him in a lie or two. I honestly believe he will lie.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "That they are a hypocrate."
I did not say who a hypocrate was, but that turning around a question is a way of showing who a hypocrate is.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "Sorry but that knife in my back only showed me one thing. What kind of person you are."
Said after you filed a false sockpupet charge against me. Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "That is a bold face lie and Im am going to do whatever is nessasary to make sure you get in trouble for posting lies"
You posted lies in a false charge of me being a sockpupet for a not loged in edit.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "I guess you havent changed one bit. Still fighting to the end. " and "Looking back, you started the whole fight..."
You have a pattern of making edits that have no concensious. Then when I point it out you use comments against me. Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "... you now have a fight to the end if you want one. The other option is to end it now."
If you want to continue to fight I am more than willing to see it through to the end. It takes 2 to argue, you are as involved in this as I am, and have instead of words done things in against consensus. This was in response to the edit war you started by editing something under discussion without consensus.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "Jason has tried to stop me from telling people Swiftfox is non-free."
So whats wrong with telling someone the truth?Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Repeated uncivil behaviour (despite repeated requests to decease):

  • "Well looks like you have made a lot of trouble for me."
By filing a false sockpupet charge against me for a not loged in edit, I claimed with a minor edit within minutes.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "Thank you for that, it is priceless, and shows a pattern."

Yes it shows a pattern of your behaviour. First you file a false sockpupet charge against me. Then use that charge to show I have done something wrong on another charge. You then go back to the Sockpupet page and claim I have blanked a page when you admitted to knowing it was archived on another page. So IMHO you have a habbit of taking false charges and using them to further your agenda. I no longer assume good faith from you for that reason.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

  • "Do not post one more thing about Swiftfox on my talk page."
Swiftfox has its own talk page. I have asked nicely more than once not to discuss Swiftfox on my talk page. But to use the Swiftfox talk page. For some reason you refuse to do this.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "Are you attempting to get some negitive comment out of me by doing something you know I do not want done to my talk page?"
Well you continue to discuss something here afer repeatly asked not to. Swiftfox has its own talk page. Talk there about it. After asking , and asking you not to, and your continued use of this page for Swiftfox leads me to assume bad faith.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "What part of I do not want to discuss Swiftfox here do you not understand?
Thanks for showing I have asked over and over not to discuss Swiftfox here.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "My talk page is not for discussing Swiftfox."
Thanks for showing I have asked over and over not to discuss Swiftfox here.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "User Wizardry Dragon, I dont know what you are doing on my talk page. "
I didnt know, so whats wrong with saying so? He has still not answerd what he is doing.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • vindictive behaviour "It you intend to use Firefox benchmarks for Swiftfox, expect the free software license to be replaced."
If he insisted on inserting information without consensious, I was going to replace other information.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • unfounded accusations of positive bias "Use of Swiftfox site as a reference, Positive bias problem"
The Swiftfox site has a pro Swiftfox Bias, WP:RS(Company and organization websites) I feel we are relying on the Swiftfox site to much.Kilz 23:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • 3 edit wars (last 2 I let go)
After Widefox made edits without consensious on topices still under discussion.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • 2 merge errors of mine - accusations of vandalism, and left unresolved.
Merge errors where a comment of mine was removed and not replaced. If it was merge, wouldnt the comment just have been moved? Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • dismissal of 3rd party opinion
I asked questions on the third opinion, strangly one of my questions was removed in a "merge" and not replaced on the page. Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • dismissal of Centrx opinion
I just stated my opinion was not the same.Kilz 18:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Widefox 15:36, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I have answerd those here. Kilz 23:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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