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Pink Floyd

Why could not Pink Floyd use these genres? Art rock progressive rock psychedelic rock Avant-rock Proto-prog Psychedelic pop Space rock Acid rock The sources explain the genres well, I want to make a consensus with you about that, please stop undoing my editions— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paintboxing (talk • contribs) 02:46, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from Andyprod1

Too much detail? Just checking ... appreciate your looking after this. Andyprod1 (talk) 00:24, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Please leave me alone

I do not know what I have been doing to articles that is upsetting you, but I suggest you stop trying to attack me. There is really no need for this bombardment. Thanks to you, the articles in question are now useless to me, which I find too discouraging to not talk about. I was not trying to do anything wrong, and the fact you think I was only makes me feel more sorry for you. If this continues, we are going to have a problem. Please leave my editing alone. Jake "JJR" Rivera (talk) 03:56, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

@Jake "JJR" Rivera: Stop making the type of edits that require reverting, simple, I'm not here to attack you, I'm here to monitor changes. Just look at your talk page full of warnings. - Mlpearc (open channel) 04:01, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Page protection

Hi, I was only trying to add page protection so only registered/confirmed users can edit the page.

Regards

L1amw90 (talk) 04:32, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

@L1amw90: Only Administrators can protect pages. You can request page protection here: Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection. - Mlpearc (open channel) 04:38, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I didn't know. L1amw90 (talk) 04:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

"we do not do "or perhaps because of"."

Um....why not? Says who? There's no Misplaced Pages guideline on the use of that phrase, as far as I know. If it's OK to say "despite...", why is it not OK to say "or perhaps because of"?

In the instant case, the sentence reads "Despite its controversy, the head-biting act has been parodied and alluded to several times throughout his career and is part of what made Osbourne famous." I think it's fair (if not actually more accurate) to say that the parodies and allusions to these head-biting incidents, and Ozzy's resulting fame, are BECAUSE of the controversy surrounding the incidents, not in spite of it.

Respectfully,

Captain Quirk (talk) 05:17, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

@Captain Quirk: Really ? It's speculation and there's no room for that in a Encyclopedia. Mlpearc Phone (open channel) 05:21, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

It's no more speculative than saying "Despite". Perhaps we should remove the phrase "Despite its controversy" and just leave the sentence as "The head-biting act has been parodied and alluded to several times throughout his career and is part of what made Osbourne famous." Captain Quirk (talk) 05:35, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Eye of the Tiger views

I really like to put how many views a song has. Can you please tell me what's problem to put how many views does Eye of the Tiger have on YouTube? I didn't mean any bad intentions Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 05:37, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Duplicate warnings

Hey, it looks like you warned User talk:207.109.54.130 multiple times for the same edit, which I had already warned them for. Ahh, the trials of smartphone editing. --AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 01:45, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, one warning for vandalism and one for introducing deliberate errors. Mlpearc Phone (open channel) 01:48, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Eye of the Tiger views

I am saying this again, I really like to put how many views a song has. Can you please tell me what's problem to put how many views does Eye of the Tiger have on YouTube? I didn't mean any bad intentions. Ple

Lita Ford article

I found Lita Ford's real birth name and posted it. Unfortunately, I posted the correction to the wrong line. I was about to correct my error when you sent me this message. Her birth name is Carmelita Rosanna Ford, that is established fact. If you don't want me to correct my mistake, let me know. I hope I'm doing this right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.179.143.159 (talk) 18:18, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from UTWuTangClan

Syd Barrett retired in 1974 UTWuTangClan (talk) 18:53, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@UTWuTangClan: OK, and your source that supports your claim is ? - Mlpearc (open channel) 19:00, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

It's on YouTube look at his Documents and his Biography Shine On You Crazy Diamond. UTWuTangClan (talk) 21:43, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@UTWuTangClan: YouTube is not a reliable source, either find a good source or leave it out, simple. Also, please review Help:Using_talk_pages#Indentation and Misplaced Pages:Signatures#How to sign your posts. - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:34, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Electric guitar edits

Your wholesale reversion of edits I made to this page were ill made. An actual review of those edits will show that essentially all of them were phrasing (which does not require a reference) or supplemental material, such as the addition of Leo Kottke to the 12-string section. I would ask that you unrevert, and instead object to particular edits rather than wholesale, meat ax, reversion. For your information, I have been an admin in former times, and at one time was in the top few hundred contributors and so am more than experienced at WP editing. I am not current with the present editorial politics, and, indeed, it was changes in those politics which caused me to go on an extended Wiki-vacation. If those changes have continued the trend I noticed then, I suspect I am likely to vacation myself again. Best wishes. 69.118.209.149 (talk) 17:15, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@69.118.209.149: No, you need to cite (Help:Referencing for beginners) your claims, personal knowledge is not acceptable or verifiable, this is your WP:BURDEN. As a former Admin, you know "intimidation" does not work on Misplaced Pages - Mlpearc (open channel) 17:34, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Re: George Michael

I am not warring as you put it,i am trying to make it easier for people to read where the bbc..one has to read a few words b4 the bbc is mentioned,i have always been taught to write with this in mind,,,it is better to put the bbcs obituary descibed G M as...... instead of in its obituary the bbc......the same people are following me palecloud for one is up for harrassement and being petty..its makes sense as i wrote it Im fed up with being victimised on wiki when all i want to do is help!!/they too keep on re editing what i put on,they have changed it 4 times or so,why do they not get warned also? drew270 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drew270 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@Drew270: My best advise is to start a discussion on the article's talk page and get other editors ideas on how to include your information. - Mlpearc (open channel) 00:02, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from Andyprod1

Well, I THOUGHT I was helping out that section ... I understand your note about Discogs not being "reliable," however, I've found it's very thorough in the past myself, AND further it's going to be difficult if not impossible to find a repository of that information that is any better delineated or otherwise "reliable" to document these types of listings. If you'd like to point me to another place to look, I'll be happy to start there. I haven't found or figured out a better source to validate anything along those lines. Suggestions? Andyprod1 (talk) 19:49, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@Andyprod1: Rolling Stone is the best reference I have found. Also there's Misplaced Pages:Identifying and using primary sources - Mlpearc (open channel) 19:57, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mlpearc: understand. Read through the Sources Section as well. Problem with these types of listings is that Rolling Stone isn't going to necessarily be current with all the release formats mentioned, and those types of listings are probably too numerous to count, appearing in who knows how many pages on who knows how many artists. Acknowledging that Discogs is an independent or otherwise not directly related to the subject(s) in question, have you looked into their site? I'm wondering what the process is for critically evaluating a site for use in this type of situation. Release formats are after all proprietary to the record company/companies releasing them, and in many cases there are multiple companies involved in various issues of a title by an artist. I don't know any other existing site as complete as Discogs. Thoughts? Suggestions?

References

1. https://www.discogs.com/about

Yes, my suggestion is to bring this up on the article's talk page and see if any other editors have a solution. - Mlpearc (open channel) 20:26, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

March 2017

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Mlpearc, edit warring and communication style. Ritchie333 10:38, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi. That Admin/stalkers subpage was inappropriate, so I deleted it. Beyond that, I don't see why you and Ritchie can't get along. Be patient and aim at a softer approach. El_C 11:40, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@El C: Thank you, I didn't much like it either, but I felt I need to archive interactions as it seemed some Admins have been showing up on pages I watch where I've never seen them before and just after an altercation with them. @Ritchie333: Thanx for the ANI notification. - Mlpearc (open channel) 15:46, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

What was the altercation over? Please don't say genres, please don't say genres! El_C 15:51, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

I don't remember. Probably genres. - Mlpearc (open channel) 15:53, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey, El_C they're on the page that was deleted - Mlpearc (open channel) 15:58, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Noo, subgenres!!1#777 El_C 16:11, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

He fixed it, no altercation, so off we go to ANI ?, maybe Ritchie just wants to vent, IDK. - Mlpearc (open channel) 16:15, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Changes that I made to Andy Gibb

Hi, if that is the British way of presenting an article of that type of subject, then I am O.K. with that then. Davidgoodheart (talk) 04:01, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from 86.174.240.68

86.174.240.68 (talk) 15:31, 16 March 2017 (UTC) MY edits are correct though. And if I don't do it no one else is going to bother to edit it. Riddler's appeared in DC Rebirth for a while now yet no one has bothered to add anything regarding him to his wikipedia page. I apologize for not knowing how to reference properly but if the actually editors and creators of this site kept the page up to do I wouldn't have to edit it myself.

A message from Delta9pharma

Hi, how can I add this information? Delta9pharma (talk) 17:57, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Delta9pharma: Please see the discussion I started for you on the article's talk page. - Mlpearc (open channel) 18:00, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Reverting good faith edits rsooch

Hi there... regarding your revisions from earlier today: I don't understand your opinion that these Bass Player Top 100 edits are trivial or not notable. For example, your revision in the article for John Paul Jones (musician); the article already references Paste Magazine's list of underrated bassists, which you did not delete. Why is Bass Player's list trivial and Paste is not? Regarding music magazine lists in general, take Rolling Stone's Greatest 500 Albums as another example; each individual article for every album on its list references the original Rolling Stone Top 500 article. Why not the same for Bass Player's 100 Greatest Bass Players? Regarding notability, Bass Player magazine is the leading source on its subject based on its nearly 30 year print history and presence in its field. Alternatively, should we be deleting all references to Guitar Player magazine in wiki articles (they are numerous!)? I would like to undo your revisions based on this premise; please explain otherwise if you still disagree. Thanks... sorry if I responded to your comments in the wrong talk page area, I just followed your "click here" instruction and wound up here.

rsooch Rsooch (talk) 18:29, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Rsooch: If this is notable information from this magazine, it would've already been in these articles, sound more like trivia to me. If you want to add this information please seek consensus on each talk page. Thank you, - Mlpearc (open channel) 18:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mlpearc: The magazine was just issued last month, and posted on web this month. Please clarify your opinion regarding when the information should have been added to these articles. Thanks. Rsooch (talk) 18:50, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Rsooch: All the more reason to get consensus first. - Mlpearc (open channel) 18:55, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mlpearc: OK, will attempt to seek consensus on each talk page, although I lack experience in that. Will give it a shot... feel free to delete this section, thanks. Rsooch (talk)

@Rsooch: Very good, happy editing. (May I also suggest reviewing a quick video) - Mlpearc (open channel) 21:22, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from Drew270

I dont intend to haras you,you are harassing me,,your just stalking me all the time!. Are you a volunteer like me or do you own wiki or an official editor?

@Drew270: A volunteer just like you, everyday editors on Misplaced Pages do not stalk other editors, we use a function called a watchlist, at the moment I have 7,434 pages on my watch list. When other editors feel they are being stalked they're just editing pages on someone else's watchlist. George Michael is on my watchlist, looking at that pages' edit history, seems you made a few edits that were reverted, and not only by me. Misplaced Pages has standards, rules, guidelines and some SOP's, when edits are made to a page on someone's watchlist which is outside of those rules, guidelines etc. they get reverted, some editors (like me) when reverting a problem edit might check that editors contributions and fix any other issues, which often seems to that editor that they're being stalked, when in fact we're (everyday editors) just doing what we do here, building and maintaining the best Encyclopedia on the planet. Happy editing, - Mlpearc (open channel) 16:24, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Reversion of edit

Hi Mlpearc,

I'm respectfully curious as to why you removed the External Link to the archival video about potatoes. The video is from the archival collection at the Archives of Ontario and documents the potato industry in Ontario during the 1950s. In this sense, it links to sections in the entry like "history" and "growth and cultivation".

I'm relatively new to Misplaced Pages editing, so I appreciate your time explaining why such a link wouldn't be appropriate.

Many thanks, Historchivist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Historchivist (talk • contribs) 16:07, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

@Historchivist: External link sections have a potential of becoming link farms, as this one is well on it's way. I suggest starting a discussion on the article's talk page and seek consensus to include the link. Cheers, - Mlpearc (open channel) 16:46, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from Not to touch the earth

Hello, So, to make sure I'm getting this clear. When someone deletes a genre from the Rolling Stones page which is changing genres based upon their own belief it is fine but when I had reinstated what was before it is now changing it, with all due respect but something does not add up.

 Fixed. - Mlpearc (open channel) 02:22, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from 174.126.88.6

You reverted an edit I made on the Stephanie Beacham page. I have a user ID on Misplaced Pages but do not always use it. I added the information to the page because, if you must know, my wife is currently (as I type) binge-watching the series Doc Martin (!) and I recognised Stephanie (I am from the UK and know her from the other things she has appeared in). 174.126.88.6 (talk) 19:33, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@174.126.88.6: As my edit summary staes "Unsourced, unexplained", not incorrect. Please review, edit summaries and verifiability. - Mlpearc (open channel) 19:39, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Just as well I went back and did a bit more digging ... I was confusing her with another actress, so you did the right thing, as it turns out! Thanks!174.126.88.6 (talk) 20:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from 100.4.157.176

So I reverted the edit, and then you give me a warning. Logic. Please remember, I did it because I know I screwed up. Looking for errors and I inadvertently deleted something and repaired it. Good job! Logic. Also, laughable right after another. 100.4.157.176 (talk) 19:44, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@100.4.157.176: I have no idea what you're talking about. - Mlpearc (open channel) 19:48, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from TheAnonymousNerd

I see you removed my edit from the Minecraft page. We should leave of the Nintendo Switch version for Story Mode until release. I have a question though: did you mean to also remove the 3 citations I added in the Awards section? They are now back to citation needed. Perhaps I should have mentioned it in the edit summary. TheAnonymousNerd (talk) 22:10, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

@TheAnonymousNerd: This is an Encyclopedia, which documents "the past", we don't document what might be, sourced or not. - Mlpearc (open channel)

Should I add back the citations in the Awards section that I added earlier? I added them in the same revision. TheAnonymousNerd (talk) 22:19, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

I see you placed back the citations, thanks. Also for teaching me that Misplaced Pages is not a crystal ball. I appreciate the feedback, as I am a new contributor on Misplaced Pages. TheAnonymousNerd (talk) 22:27, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

 Fixed - Mlpearc (open channel) 22:30, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from Krazybruh87

I have a question. If I changed something to be funny (In which I haven't) would that be vandalism? Krazybruh87 (talk) 15:54, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

is messing around with something and actually messing it up vandalism? Krazybruh87 (talk) 15:56, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

@Krazybruh87: I could be. - Mlpearc (open channel) 15:58, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from Matze74 wikipedia

Hi! :) Quick question: why did you delete the information about the new Skyclad video? Cheers!

Matze74 wikipedia (talk) 16:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

@Matze74 wikipedia: Quick answer, no source. - Mlpearc (open channel) 16:59, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, name change requested. Skyclad video has a source now, hope it's OK like that. Matze74 wikipedia (talk) 17:51, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

A message from Prv 54

Prv 54 (talk) 20:26, 22 March 2017 (UTC) Hello this is regarding the page i was editing named Pravega Racing. I don't understand how i am advertising the company. I am mentioning the true details about a team which is similar to what another page called Formula Manipal. Tell me how the Formula Manipal page is different from Pravega Racing. A Question of inquisitivity.

@Prv 54: Seems Formula Manipal have proven their nobility. - Mlpearc (open channel) 20:32, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

@Prv 54: On a second note, if you can not follow my talk page instructions, please stay off it. - Mlpearc (open channel) 20:32, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Reactivate my ACC account please

Hi, I'm back to Misplaced Pages after a few months off for personal issues, could you please reactivate my ACC account?

Thanks! Kharkiv07 (T) 21:18, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done @Kharkiv07: Welcome back, please review the guide before working requests. Cheers, - Mlpearc (open channel) 21:38, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks much, can you add the flag back too, please? Kharkiv07 (T) 21:47, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Heh, you're not an admin. Oops. Kharkiv07 (T) 21:47, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

AC/DC

I think you're treading awfully close to the edge of WP:3RR on AC/DC. As the editor who first removed content that was subsequently restored, you should have followed WP:BRD and attempted to discuss the matter before removing again. Whether or not your edit was correct, or in line with the style of other articles, your actions showed a disrespect for the normal process. As the more experienced editor, you should have been the one to take the matter to a discussion venue. WikiDan61_ReadMe!! 17:08, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

I am aware of my edits, thank you. - Mlpearc (open channel) 17:09, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Attention!

- Mlpearc (open channel) 02:38, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion on the Administrators'noticeboard for incidents, regarding an issue where you may be involved. SportsLair (talk) 01:30, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Update: I admit it's my fault. I'll let you go for now, but be sure not to make your watchlist loom too large. SportsLair (talk) 02:26, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Forgetting the mop

You might want to remove the category (Category:Misplaced Pages administrator hopefuls) too. WikiDan61_ReadMe!! 21:31, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done Thanx. - Mlpearc (open channel) 21:56, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Tampering with milestone timestamps

Hello

I'd like to remind you that we editors are expected to take full responsibility for what we do with automated scripts. So, I'd like to know whether the script nature is your sole objection, or do you also dispute my claim that changing the milestone dates indiscriminately is bad?

Of course, we have precedent: ArbCom has previously blocked some editors that made seemingly insignificant edits in bulk. I can dig the case for you.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 23:20, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh, look! I have new message from you... Codename Lisa (talk) 23:22, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Codename Lisa: Easy, calm down there's nothing wrong with that edit. All that edit did is to show the article was checked this month, this year for malformed dates. - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I am pretty calm. Evidence: I haven't countered your second round of reverts. So, I am pretty much here to talk.

That's not the function of |date=. That parameter is a milestone for when the unified style was first established. We don't need a date for when it was last checked because this information dates rapidly.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 23:31, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Look, I've made thousand of edits just like those, I've used the scripts for years. That is NOT a milestone edit it merely documents the last time the article date formats were checked by User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js. Now either point to some guideline or leave the edits alone. - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:40, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Well, you've been make thousands of mistakes for years! Nobody needs the last check date because there is always an edit after that check date and there is no guarantee that said edit didn't deviate from the established style. A milestone date, however, is required for WP:DATESRET purposes.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 23:53, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Ping @Ohconfucius: - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:41, 29 March 2017 (UTC)