Talk:Korea under Japanese rule

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Should an article about a country include anecdotes from newspaper reports?

The lengthy excerpt from New York Outlook is fascinating but hardly encyclopedic. An academic source justifying the use of anecdotes is desirable, otherwise I will simply remove this quote. Shii (tock) 15:05, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

serious analysis written by a leading scholar (Kennan) is a good reliable source for Misplaced Pages. This was not written by a casual reporter. There is no requirement that it be in a book. please keep it. Rjensen (talk) 00:12, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

If he's a leading scholar why did he have to publish in a news magazine? Shii (tock) 00:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

today there are hundreds of scholarly journals that would publish his material--in 1905 the political science association had not yet been formed and there were only a couple of scholarly journals. Therefore scholars (like Frederick Jackson Turner or Alfred Thayer Mahan) commonly used elite newspapers to report their findings. Rjensen (talk) 01:13, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

WP:RSN determined that the section was a primary source and should not have been quoted at such length. Shii (tock) 22:15, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Serious concerns about citing R.J. Rummel

Reviewing his published online work "Statistics of Democide: Chapter 3", I do not believe R.J. Rummel to be a reliable source. His claims are substantiated by his own exceedingly diverse estimates, such as a death toll of "3,000,000 to over 10,000,000" by the Japanese government, including "270,000 to 810,000" Korean labourers. These data are averaged without precision-frequently, statistics are given only a 'probably' to support them. Additionally, his language shows blatant contempt for the Japanese government; he has not even finished his opening before declaring the institution "morally bankrupt". The only outside source employed is the official death toll presented at the Tokyo War Crime Trial, used to defend PoW and interned civilian deaths. I find no compelling reason to believe his other findings (being a professor emeritus does not make one immune from bias), and therefore move that his claims on Korean laborers be removed from the article. Secretkeeper12 (talk) 21:34, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow reply, I was looking into the claims made by Rummel, but I agree with you -- he doesn't seem to have good enough evidence for his rather extreme claims. Shii (tock) 15:56, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Unnatural wording, unverifiable claims

The last paragraph under section 7 - Korean Independence Movement concerns me in a couple of places. Aside from a few grammatical errors, which I didn't think important to correct if the paragraph needs to be cleaned up anyway, there are a few claims which are either unverifiable, conflict another article, or lack sources. For example, the sentence, "However, they never fought against Japan" (referring to the Korean Liberation Army) is vague, and contradicts the linked article on the Korean Liberation Army. Also vague is the following sentence, "Afterwards, they became leaders of South Korea." Following that is an un-cited claim that "On the other hand, Kim Il-Sung led tens of thousands of Koreans volunteered (sic) for the National Revolutionary Army and the People's Liberation Army." Whether or not he led these volunteers is not verified, and where or to what he led them is also in question here. The assumption could be in a fight against Japan (in contrast to the claim made that the Korean Liberation Army did not fight against Japan), but the evidence is not strong enough to make that inference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.208.107 (talk) 04:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

You're right that section is a mess and requires a thorough clean-up.

Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 12:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

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