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User:Oliv0, User:Francis Le français reported by User:D0kkaebi (Result: )

Page: Popular Republican Union (2007) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Users being reported: Oliv0 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), Francis Le français (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: After the conclusion of the edit war and ban of User:Francis Le français, I restored the version before discussion

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 4 hours from edit war conclusion, User:Oliv0 restarts the edit war by returning to Francis le Francais' version
2. Not a day passed after ban of Francis, re-starting the similar changes without discussion he was banned for
3. To see the previous 3RR discussion and conclusion
4. User:Francis Le français did not wait the result of this new Edit Warring incident to revert the page to his own version

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: I think the previous case of 3RR of 5 days ago and its conclusion is enough explanation

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

• On previous 3RR, I explained all the solution I proposed for 6 months for solving the issue.
• Another user User:Write Serum is warning User:Oliv0 that his changes can not be justified by personal attacks. Answered by personal attacks on the neutrality of User:Write Serum

Comments:

Please note that a case of personal attacks and threat of outing has been opened against User:Oliv0 and his group. D0kkaebi (talk) 03:04, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

See my answer there : no threats or attacks from me. My modification was perfectly justified in the edit summary and goes against no dispute resolution, since the WP:AN/3 case mentioned only blocked the one infringing R3R and did not conclude as to which version is "WP:WRONG". Now the last modification by D0kkaebi, falsely stating in its edit summary that my modification had no justification except private attacks and that he is restoring the state of things to the previous resolution of an edit war, undoes my removal of POV in the article, so the question is: should I or somebody else undo it? Oliv0 (talk) 06:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Your diff mentions half a sentence and your comments on the talk page about personal attacks is 4 lines + 20 from your crew. You justified your revert on several topics and summarized by " addition of "gaullism", "centrist" and removal of section about Internet activism certainly goes against NPOV, article improved by undoing this". Just to discuss one claim, Centrism has been extensively discussed on the talk page here and the only undoubtedly neutral user participating in the page, Ravenswing , concluded that the proper translation for English native is "centrist". I did not agree neither as I preferred "syncretic" but since Ravenswing is neutral, I apply his proposal as a proper consensus. I do not understand why your opinion should prevail on previous discussions and consensus reached on the talk page.

By the way, on a side note to admin, User:Francis Le français did not wait the result of this new Edit Warring incident to revert the page to his own version. D0kkaebi (talk) 01:47, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

This is a copy of your answer at WP:AN/I, see mine there: your assertion is false, in the link you mention Ravenswing did not say that "centrist" is a good English word for what the micro-party calls "neither left nor right / above left and right" (that is, focusing on anti-europeanism and not on left-right divisions). Oliv0 (talk) 06:09, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

So you say Ravenswing did not say "centrist" is the proper word to describe UPR's political positioning? It does not look like you even checked the link. Rather than interpretation, I'll just quote his words "We need pay no attention to what a Frenchman would call "centrist" -- what matters is what your average English-speaker would think of as "centrist".". This is the best evidence that you just impose your POV without even checking prior discussions and even ignoring others' input. I did not agree with him, but I agree on the logic he brought for the sake of the consensus. This is his input. So who is not neutral here? D0kkaebi (talk) 08:30, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

This is also a copy of your answer at WP:AN/I (please stop, this is getting off topic), see mine there: here you are being non neutral, Ravenswing only said that the English word is not to be avoided because of the French meaning, which does not say it is the appropriate word in English. In fact, "centrist" and "gaullism" mentioned in my edit summary quoted above and probably even "syncretic" are all a POV attempt at a more positive vocabulary than the sources. Oliv0 (talk) 08:44, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

It is not off-topic here. Admin needs to understand why you keep reverting and make a war edit supporting the changes of Francis le Francais that had been banished a day for that. If Ravenswing did not think it was the appropriate word, he would not have made this change. It is him who made the change, then I tried to discuss this change as I did not agree that "centrism" would be the proper word. Since I failed to convince him, I accepted the term for the sake of the consensus instead of making an edit war imposing my point of view. You see the difference between me and you? You think you are right and that is not questionable. If someone neutral brings a change, I discuss it calmly. By the way, note that "syncretic" was not my idea neither but a contribution of someone else. I guess everything is said, admins have all info to judge the case. D0kkaebi (talk) 23:12, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

So far you did not mention Ravenswing wrote "centrism" in the article, the talk page is more important and does not conclude "centrism". Stick to the independent sources, they do not mention centrism for this party. And the "difference between me and you" is that I am neutral and you are the POV-pusher with a WP:COI as a well-known local official of the party who wants to control the article that you think your WP:OWN, while accusing everybody else to do so. Oliv0 (talk) 05:50, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Note: I will have no or little Internet access (in the mountains) for 6 days starting this afternoon. Oliv0 (talk) 08:44, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

So you finally admit you were wrong to revert without discussion. Yes, I can not mention in the revert summary all the 20 reasons why Francis Le Francais revert is wrong. That is why I keep driving you to the talk page, that you refuse to do and stick to your revert. Refusing the discussion assuming that anyway you are right is a POV and has no justification for Edit warring. I think the case can be judged, everything is said. D0kkaebi (talk) 01:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

D0kkaebi lies (i know it's a strong word) about history and the sources. I demonstrate that on the talk page several times. D0kkaebi don't respect the wikipedia's rules about sources (WP:NEWSBLOG WP:VERIFY etc ) and he tries to have a "false-consensus" on bad source not reliable...

1. he invites on talk page but his (weak)reponse goes by 4 months after.
2. he calls vandalism everything !
3. he protects bad sources
4. WP:OR
5. & & POV and addition of bad sources, redundant information, lie ("nearly" say the source named valeurs actuelles, he writes "more" it's a POV lie)
6. addition of bad sources (one doesn't speak of the subject)
7. removes a critical source
8. lie and POV about the source + false explanation cause no consensus on talk/discussion page = second lie
9. all the same with false explanations that change each time = war edit & & & & & & removes a critical source, canceling , addition of bad sources. lies again, "notably" and "one of" are not in the source = POV lie.

All information on PRU talk page. He selects only positive informations about his party (PRU / asselineau) and tries to erase the criticism sources. I think it's a big big conflict of interest.--Francis Le français (talk) 07:59, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello, everything was already answered to Francis le Francais, but the answers are always considered weak and/or endless answered with same claim, if it does not valid his point of view. If an Admin needs me to answer point by point to his claim, I can do it upon request. Otherwise, you can just refer to the explanation on the Edit War case where he was blocked for a day. D0kkaebi (talk) 23:05, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Tell us your diversions sources and the rules of Misplaced Pages. I assume having been blocked for your reverter versions containing original research, POV and lies. You assume your lies ?--Francis Le français (talk) 10:18, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Abductive reported by User:Kingofaces43 (Result: 48 hours for continued warring after original closure)

Page: Sulfoxaflor (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: Sulfilimine (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Abductive (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Sulfoxaflor

Sulfilimine

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

The editor has been attempting in each diff, to insert their own original research that the chemical sulfoxalfor is in a different class of insecticides called neonicotinoids instead of what scientific sources currently describe it as (sulfoximine) and later using newspapers not reliable for scientific claims to do so. Additionally, they have been inserting completely unsourced content claiming, "Dow had been attempting to evade classifying the chemical as a neonicotinoid since neonicotinoids are harmful to bees." while also adding while commenting that future approvals, "are expected to be quashed in the near future." completely unsourced and highly editorialized POV. They have also moved over to Sulfilimine doing much of the same.

As of this time, Abuductive has not even attempted to use the article talk page, even after being asked in edit summaries and the talk page itself rather than edit war the content back in (I've run myself up to 3RR trying to get them there):

• "(Undo editorializing language and misstatement that these are neonicotinoids per source. These are different a different class.)"
• "(Undid revision 680478982 by Abductive (talk) still incorrect according to source. Please discuss on talk page per WP:BRD if that isn't clear.)"
• "(Remove WP:OR (please read source and again discuss per WP:BRD instead of edit warring), Also removed editorializing again. Consensus is needed through discussion at this point for these removed edits."

I'm asking for a short block at this point as the editor seems to be coming in with an extremely strong point of view and is attempting to edit war their unsourced views in across articles. In addition to not using the talk page, they have resorted to personal attacks and WP:ASPERSIONS calling me a corporate shill on their talk page. Regardless, bringing the pages back to their last stable version would be preferable, especially if page protection is done on either page., This currently is not in the scope of the current GMO arbcom case since we're only dealing with an insecticide here. I can't work with the behavior issues, but the sourcing issues could have been handled if they used the talk page rather than continue to edit war. It looks like there are more behavior issues associated with edit warring with this editor though as opposed to a regular content dispute, so I'm looking for some help here. Kingofaces43 (talk) 13:32, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

• This chumly knows full well that I have provided sources. The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit made a legal finding that the pesticide is in fact a neonicotinoid. This I have backed up with sources. I strongly suspect that User:Kingofaces43 is editing for Dow Chemical Company. Of course, I can't prove it, but I note that User:Kingofaces43 is at arbcom for similar problems. Abductive (reasoning) 16:30, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Comments like the above are why I'm go so far to look for a block in clear violation of WP:ASPERSIONS while using it as a justification for edit warring. While it's true we're definitely trying to weed out some of this behavior at ArbCom in GMOs, we definitely don't allow that in other topics either. The source currently used says nothing of this specific claim for content made here (not to mention not being reliable for scientific claims and in clear opposition to previously cited sources). The problematic behavior related to edit warring should be clear in the diffs though as this editor is personalizing content and edit warring it in. Kingofaces43 (talk) 16:41, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

All the wikilawyering in the world isn't going to stop the articles from reflecting the court's finding. Abductive (reasoning) 19:13, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

You're here because you've demonstrated clear edit warring behavior and refusing to use the talk page to resolve any content issues, but on top of that you're making up content that isn't in the sources you are using against WP:VERIFY in additional to violating conduct policy regarding other editors. I'm normally one to just opt for page protection and move on to discussion, but the lack of acknowledgement of the various problem behaviors by Abductive seems to indicate something else is needed to prevent this in the future. Kingofaces43 (talk) 23:05, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

• No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. @Abductive: this dispute can probably be resolved quickly if only you pursue dispute resolution rather than edit war over this. Swarm ♠ 05:09, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Swarm, could you clarify a bit more on your above comment? I'm seeing four distinct times Abductive tried to insert the content within about a 6 hour period, not to mention completely avoiding the talk page when asked to go there multiple times even if one is going to ignore the other behavior issues such as personal attacks associated with the edit warring. That's only on one page, and they went over to another to insert similar content after they got the edit war warning. Even if WP:3RR isn't broken, it also clearly states that it's possible to edit war without breaking it, and we have a pretty blatant case of that here no matter how you cut it. This is serious edit warring behavior that I'm concerned might be emboldened if not addressed directly, and that's all I'm really asking at this point even though I've seen people blocked for less than this here in the past. Kingofaces43 (talk) 22:43, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Because I keep improving the articles and adding sources, which you can't see. Abductive (reasoning) 04:49, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Still no attempt by Abductive to use the talk page at this time to discuss the sourcing problems after two more reverts. This is starting to get really sloppy with their attempts to only communicate through edit summary, so I really need to ask an admin to step in at this point. I've more than done my part to get things rolling on the talk page to hammer out some finer details, yet we're seeing a very one-sided problem with respect to edit warring here from Abductive. Kingofaces43 (talk) 05:35, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Looks like they've bumped up to 3RR again. . Could someone at least just return the article to the status quo version before this all started and set up page protection for awhile to at least close this case here for awhile? Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

(←) @Kingofaces43: If I missed a 3RR vio it was an honest mistake. Swarm ♠ 16:35, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

No worries, I figured it was just an oversight and didn't intend anything ill towards you. It looks like we've hopefully got some resolution to this instance finally, so I think we can close this. Kingofaces43 (talk) 16:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Violation of 3RR (Result: )

3RR has been breeched by Abductive (in about 4 hours), so can we please either get a block or a return to the status quo version with page protection to stop this constant disruption?

My original edit that was reverted each time:

1. 23:51, September 13, 2015
2. 00:28, September 14, 2015
3. 01:12, September 14, 2015
4. 02:07, September 14, 2015

Thanks to Ebyabe for attempting to bring this back to the status quo before being reverted by Abductive. I'm not going to be able to do it, so we need someone to get it across to Abductive that this is extremely inappropriate edit warring. Others have referred to these actions as vandal-like contributions. Kingofaces43 (talk) 13:32, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• I change my contributions each time to add more sources and clarifications. Meanwhile, as can be seen on the talk page, User:Kingofaces43 insists that the NYT is a bad source, and that an industry group sponsored by Dow Chemical Company is somehow independent. Abductive (reasoning) 16:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

As has been shown to you many times WP:BRD is not WP:NBRD. It's possible to gain consensus on certain areas, but one needs to work on that at the talk page first before re-adding content after it's clear the initial edit isn't sticking. That's why you are currently sitting at four reverts today. It's extremely clear this user is completely ignoring WP:3RR looking at all the edits they've continued to make after their fourth revert rather than self-revert. It does appear to be a method of gaming WP:3RR by inserting all these edits at this time. I'm not going to get drug into the behavior side of things any further though, so I'll let others here address your behavior at this point. Kingofaces43 (talk) 18:11, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Adding sources that back up my position isn't reverting, it's building the encyclopedia. Abductive (reasoning) 22:57, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• Looking at the above comments, this user is intentionally ignoring 3RR after being warned by EdJohnston they can face a block if they don't self-revert. Instead, they went on and kept adding more content, and used this chance to readd similar content in other areas they previously wanted in. I've already asked Abductive five different times to stop edit warring and reach consensus on the talk page first, but they keep reverting. This tactic of running other editors up to 3RR and continuing the make edits after reaching four reverts is highly disruptive and supposed to be prevented by WP:3RR.

Can someone please lock the page down and return it to the status quo version at least? It seems this edit warring behavior is systemic looking at their block log, so could someone straighten out their behavior issue here with a straightforward warning? They just don't seem to get the issue with edit warring here and how it's derailing attempt to work in nuanced content. I'm not going to push for a block, but this amount of edit warring could have easily resulted in one a long time ago already. Kingofaces43 (talk) 16:02, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Blocked – 48 hours. Continued warring at Sulfoxaflor on 14 September after User:Swarm's original closure (from September 12). EdJohnston (talk) 16:27, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Wrabbjr902 reported by User:Starship.paint (Result: Protected)

Page: Template:WWE personnel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Wrabbjr902 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and QuintLight (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts: (4 reverts within 5 hours today)

1. reverts in part edits by HHH Pedrigree, including moving Christian to Unassigned personnel
2. reverts in part edits by HHH Pedrigree and / or ClassicOnAStick, including moving Billie Kay, Nia Jax and Peyton Royce out from Unassigned personnel
3. reverts in part an edit by Keith Okamoto, including moving Billie Kay, Nia Jax and Peyton Royce out from Unassigned personnel
4. reverts in part another edit by Keith Okamoto, including moving Billie Kay, Nia Jax and Peyton Royce out from Unassigned personnel

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: by HHH Pedrigree and by Keith Okamoto

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Back on 6 September, in response to edits made by Wrabbjr902, I started a discussion on why Christian should not be in Unassigned personnel, but Billie Kay, Nia Jax and Peyton Royce should be. I pinged Wrabbjr902, who did not respond. Wrabbjr902 started an edit war over these items (and others as well) today. starship.paint ~ KO 08:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Comments:
Wrabbjr902 has a long history of warnings on their talk page over unconstructive editing, particularly on List of WWE personnel and Template:WWE personnel. There has been at least one level 3 warning for a wrestling / WWE-related subject. Wrabbjr902's customary response is to blank their talk page after receiving a warning. starship.paint ~ KO 08:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC) QuintLight makes the same editions. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:34, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm starting to think there's sockpuppetry going on here. -Keith Okamoto (talk) 20:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• I am minded to block User:Keith Okamoto, User:Wrabbjr902, User:QuintLight, and User:HHH Pedrigree for tag-team edit warring. I'll give you all one chance to quit reverting and start talking. Stifle (talk) 07:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

• @Stifle: - Keith Okamoto and HHH Pedrigree have already attempted to talk to Wrabbjr902 on Wrabbjr902's talk page. The posts were removed by Wrabbjr902. It's in the evidence I submitted above. starship.paint ~ KO 09:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Okamoto and me are removing vandalism from the template. We need help. No matter what, Wrabb stills editing the article, balnking his talk page and doesn't answere the discussions. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:15, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

• Page protected. Because there was a previous indefinite semi-protection and full move-protection on the page, I have upgraded this to full protection. Any admin is free to restore it to the previous level if things calm down. Stifle (talk) 09:04, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Garageland66 reported by User:Andy Dingley (Result: Protected for a week)

Page: Hard left (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Garageland66 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Persistent edit-warring over articles on UK left-wing politics. See Talk:Communist_Party_of_Britain#Requested_move_10_August_2015 and particularly . They've now switched to Hard left, a term that is widely applied (usually pejoratively from the right wing press) to a few left wing UK politicians, particularly in the '80s and '90s. This is hardly even a contentious term: those to whom it was applied have proudly embraced it. Garageland disagrees and, as we saw at Communist Party of Britain, only his version is the one true correct version. This is refuted by several other editors.

Diffs of the user's reverts:

As first stated, these claims were unsourced. That's not a problem to any reader familiar with UK politics (there is no credible challenge that "Red Ken" hasn't regularly been described as hard left). However policy wants sources, so I added sources to each one. Garageland has now seen fit to remove those too, with the utter nonsense claim, "Put these references on their Wiki profile pages first. If they're accepted there, then they can go here. Unlikely to be successful. Misplaced Pages should not be smearing current politicians." That is not how sourcing works on WP, even when Garageland disagrees. Any discussion at Talk:Hard_left has just seen Garageland stone-walling.

I'm suspecting that a topic ban might start to be considered (certainly a topic ban on undiscussed POV page moves, such as ), given what an ongoing and topic-focussed problem this is. Garageland certainly has no appreciation for collegial editing and consensus. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:32, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm not engaged in edit-warring I'm trying to achieve a consensus. I'm not sure why there should be a topic ban for me when I have been trying to reach a compromise. Each attempt at this has been responded to with flat rejection. I don't know what it is that gives Andy Dingley the power to respond to my request for compromise with a flat "no". Please read the Talk Page, to see his inflexible approach.

On other pages my contributions HAVE achieved a consensus. For example on the Communist Party of Britain page it was finally agreed to compromise with Left-wing/Far-left as a compromise.

After you wore everyone else down with your intransigence and you were blocked for edit-warring. Do not mistake exhaustion for agreement. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

I asked that the reference for Jeremy Corbyn as hard left be removed because the source is a very partisan right-wing newspaper - hardly in keeping with Misplaced Pages's impartial reputation. I've also asked that the leader of the United Kingdom's opposition, Jeremy Corbyn, be removed from the Hard Left page as it is a smear on a high profile political figure. His Wiki profile page makes no reference to him being Hard left. But Andy Dingley is acting as judge and jury on this and deciding that no change can be made.

I have tried the compromise of leaving Ken Livingstone on (or 'Red Ken' as Andy Dingley chooses to disrespectfully call him) because Ken Livingstone's page DOES list him as hard left. And then take the other names off. But again Andy Dingley has acted as judge and jury and flatly rejected such a compromise with a "no".

Can somebody intervene and try to arbitrate? To leave some high profile names on the Hard left page (while Misplaced Pages does not describe Nigel Farage or other such figures as Hard right) is to smear those names. (Garageland66 (talk) 11:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC))

• Continuing by once again bulk-removing the references Andy Dingley (talk) 16:44, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

And again Andy Dingley (talk) 17:26, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Someone needs to deal with Garageland66 -- he's stripping out parts he doesn't like, again;

(.. continue) he has gone ahead and stripped the parts which he doesn't like, yet again, although he's a complete one-man band minority on the talk page. We didn't reach a consensus, yet he went ahead and edited out names which he doesn't like because he thinks it's "slander" when it's not. He's clearly only removing the names that have recently become a lot more popular in UK politics. He seems to forget that he's the one who decided to go ahead and remove names years after they were put onto the article - yet he believes his copies are the ones which should be live whilst we 'talk' - although no one reached a consensus. He has removed them at least a minimum of 4 times, now. Attractel (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Page protected – there appears to be a content dispute on the page. Consider dispute resolution. Stifle (talk) 07:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Beyond My Ken reported by User:Volunteer Marek (Result: Protected)

Page: Anna Politkovskaya (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Beyond My Ken (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

I anticipate that User:Beyond My Ken will try to excuse their behavior by invoking WP:BLP policy and argue that the 3RR restriction does not apply to them. This is not the case. The BLP exemption is for cases where the possibility of BLP violation is fairly unambiguous. Here half a dozen reliable sources, including books by scholars, have been provided to support the text under dispute. Beyond My Ken is just choosing to ignore them. Likewise, in the talk page discussion they stated that they will no longer discuss the matter but just revert others. This is unacceptable and BMK should know better.

Since the article has been protected, at this time a block is not necessary. Beyond My Ken does need to be warned however to ensure that this behavior does not resume once protection expires. Volunteer Marek  00:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

I should note that the 3RR page is pretty explicit about this: " What counts as exempt under BLP can be controversial. Consider reporting to the BLP noticeboard instead of relying on this exemption.". BMK has not heeded this advice. Volunteer Marek  00:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Actually looking at the situation in more depth, there's a bit more disruptive here. Immediately after violating 3RR with their 4th revert, Beyond My Ken ran to the Requests for Protection page and asked to have his preferred version protected . This shows that the user is not interested in resolving the dispute but rather in "winning". It's also a pretty transparent attempt at WP:GAMEing the rules. Volunteer Marek  00:40, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Reverting BLP violations is an absolute defense against edit warring. VM and another editor are attempting to add information connecting Vladimir Putin to a murder, because the murder occurred on Putin's birthday, and the murdered woman was a political opponent of Putin. The evidence they present does not show any causal connection between them, it merely shows that some people suspect that there may be a connection, or that conspiracy theorist believe there is be a connection. It is thus unsourced innuendo about a living person, and therefore completely disallowed by BLP policy.I have explained this numerous times to them on the article's talk page, until I got tired of repeating myself, but they seem not to understand the difference between sourcing the existence of the suspicions, which they have done more than adequately, and sourcing the actual connection between Putin and the murder. Without a source for an actual connection, the material is in direct violation of BLP and may be removed from the article on sight by any editor -- indeed, it is the duty of a conscientious editor to do so.I'd also like to note that page protection was granted by Callanec, an Oversighter and Arbitration clerk, who surely must be familiar with BLP policy. It was not my "preferred version" that was protected, it was the version without the blatant BLP violation. BMK (talk) 01:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

You are not "defending against edit warring". You ARE edit warring. You are the only person to break 3RR on this article.

There is no "unsourced innuendo". The text says exactly what more than a dozen sources say. We could quote DIRECTLY from reliable secondary sources and it would be exactly the same thing. You are just using WP:BLP as a bullshit excuse. And yes, it was, "your version" which you tried to get protected. Which evidences bad faith. Volunteer Marek  01:53, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Please read more carefully. I did not say I was "defending against edit warring", I said exactly what I said to you on the article talk page, that edits which remove BLP violations are immune from 3RR, so that is an "absolute defense against edit warring". What I was defending the article from was unequivocal BLP violations by you and the other editor. Since BLP-violation-removing edits are immune from 3RR, I cannot, by definition, have been "edit warring". As for innuendo, the mention of Putin's birthday in relation to the murder most certainly is innuendo, as it implies some connection between them - or else why mention it at all. I am sorry that you cannot, or do not want to, understand this, but it is absolutely so, per Drmies' argument regarding Desmond Tutu on the talk page. That's all I will say here, since this is not the place for the continuation of talk page disputes. BMK (talk) 03:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

There was no "unequivocal BLP violations" except in your mind. Over half a dozen sources were presented to support the text. The policy explicitly states: " What counts as exempt under BLP can be controversial. Consider reporting to the BLP noticeboard instead of relying on this exemption." You did not choose to pursue that option but instead engaged in edit warring. The mention of Putin's birthday is made in pretty much. Every. Single. Source. On. The. Subject. For you to demand that we ignore what sources say is about as twisted, backwards-ass, reading of WP:BLP as one could possibly come up with. For you to use that to excuse your edit warring and breaking 3RR merits at the very least a stern warning. Volunteer Marek  03:22, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• I don't want to see anyone blocked, and I haven't looked at the history of who reverted who when and how many times. But I do have to say that I believe that the basic statement that "Mrs. X was murdered on Putin's birthday", even if expanded to "Many sources note that Mrs. X was murdered on Putin's birthday", is a BLP violation since it asks the reader to speculate on what the meaning of that possible coincidence might be. I am more interested in an admin acquainted with the BLP confirming this fact (that innuendo like this is a BLP violation) than I am in anyone getting blocked. The talk page section is a bit long by now, but you can skip the parts that I didn't write, haha. (I didn't come up with Desmond Tutu--another editor did that and actually stuck it in the article, as a very POINTy point.) Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• Here is my edit on this page. As should be clear from the text, authors of every book claim about 'an actual connection and explain why the date of murder was important. However, these sources served only to justify inclusion of the fact noted as extremely important in a vast majority of RS on the subject. There is no way the reverts by BMK can be justified as removal of poorly sourced materials per BLP rules. The books are written by professional historians who are experts on the history of assassinations in Russia, among other things. Unless BMK admits that he did it wrong (including gaming the system and refusal to talk on article talk page after loosing the argument), he is going to repeat the same on other similar occasions in a future. My very best wishes (talk) 03:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• Gentlemen, there will be no fighting in the war room. Marek, My very best wishes, it seems to be obvious that there is edit warring here. (The claim that BMK is gaming the system by asking for protection is silly--if BMK is right that this is a BLP violation, they are doing the right thing.) The only thing, then, that matters is whether BMK can reasonably argue that he can invoke BLP. I think that he can, and I am speaking through my administrative mouth piece. It's for that reason that I earlier removed the claim from the article, an edit reverted by, well, someone. Why this is a BLP violation, I have explained this a few times already. You can disagree, of course, but what matters here is whether an uninvolved admin (who's not being paid by the Kremlin, of course) thinks that BMK reasonably invoked the BLP. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 03:27, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• I agree that this is a very well-grounded BLP concern. Thinly-veiled innuendo such as this that obviously implicates Putin in a murder of one of his opponents is entirely non-neutral and out of line with BLP. If reliable sources directly discuss his connection, there's nothing wrong with including it, but the contested phrase is horribly passive-aggressive innuendo that implies much more than is written, and that's not appropriate for a neutral article. Swarm ♠ 04:26, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Pretty much every single source which discusses the murders states that it happened on Putin's birthday. The fact that it happened when it did is a central and key aspect of this topic. Which is why almost every single source mentions it. You can't just omit something that every single reliable source talks about - that's a straight up misrepresentation of sources. Volunteer Marek  15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Here I've listed over thirty sources which mention the fact. I can easily list thirty more. Like I said, almost every single source on the topic talks about it. Volunteer Marek  15:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Page protected – 2 weeks by User:Callanecc. EdJohnston (talk) 22:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:AndyTheGrump reported by User:Headtransplant (Result: 72 hours--for Headtransplant)

Page: Misplaced Pages:Article Rescue Squadron - Rescue list (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: User:Headtransplant (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

User:AndyTheGrump started this edit war. Here is my comment on his talk page, and User:AndyTheGrump's response:

User:Headtransplant: "give me a little bit of time to edit Misplaced Pages:Article Rescue Squadron - Rescue list please. thank you. Headtransplant (talk) 01:58, 14 September 2015 (UTC)"

User:AndyTheGrump: "No. Leave it alone - you clearly don't have a clue what you are doing. find out how Misplaced Pages works first, and then suggest improvements on the talk page". AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:59, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Comments:

Looking at the history of this page, some editors have been blocked for 3RR even when they had "only" 3 reversions. Andy started this edit war.

• The second revision he called me edits "vandalism".
• The last revision is in which Andy calls me a "troll". Headtransplant (talk) 04:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

WP:CIR. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• AndyTheGrump, I don't really think that AN3 is the right place for one-liners, and that comment of yours isn't even a complete sentence, for crying out loud. However, it is spot on. The editor was clearly edit warring and displaying a pretty massive amount of incompetence, besides personal attacks (on User talk:JJMC89) and just generally a bad vibe. I won't block indefinitely for CIR at this time. Drmies (talk) 04:32, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• Nominating editor blocked – for a period of 3 days (WP:OUCH) Stifle (talk) 12:25, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Alexbrn reported by User:Anmccaff (Result: No violation)

Page: Pritikin Diet (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Alexbrn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Pritikin_Diet&oldid=646917490

1. 03:56, 14 September 2015‎ My edit. Two conflicting cites, one of higher quality. Dumped one, explained why. Research: Undoubtedly a brief diet fad -brief because it's stringent - but "fad diet" is little supported overall, and certainly not by these cites.)
2. 05:33, 14 September 2015 AB's revert. Does not, to my thinking explain, beyond the obvious that he thinks the other version good. (Reverted to revision 646917490 by 73.164.140.158 (talk): Rv. to good. (TW))
3. 06:15, 14 September 2015‎ So, I hit the ball back across the net, pointing out... Undid revision 680942659 Follow BRD
4. 06:26, 14 September 2015 For BRD, I did the R - now you do the D

As you'll note above, I included actual discussion with each edit, but just to be sure, I add the following on the talk page:

As you can see, the version reverted to had two very different assessments, one a mention in an introductory level diet text, and one an actual study. The study was largely positive on serious health gains, while the text emphasized...farting. Fails NPOV just on the face of it. When you add in the real question of equivocation -not all sources use "fad diet" to Alexbrn's preferred meaning of "fad diet"- it really is up to him to justify this reversion, not just assert the old version was good. Anmccaff (talk) 06:26, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Does Alexbrn discuss this? Well, later, but first, there are priorities!

(cur | prev) 06:27, 14 September 2015‎ Alexbrn (talk | contribs)‎ . . (70,351 bytes) (+1,457)‎ . . (Warning: Edit warring on Pritikin Diet. (TW)) (undo | thank)

...then the "discussion."

The source you deleted is a good one. Some of the other sourcing in this article is however dodgy. May get a chance to look in detail later. Alexbrn (talk) 06:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

The article we were working on is a short one. There is only one other source, aside from the bio/publishing details, which rather implies...

There is one other source, aside from biographical details. How do you get "some" out of "one?" That strongly suggests that you don't need to "look in detail later", you need to look for the first time, now, before you simply do knee-jerk reverts. Anmccaff (talk) 07:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Do I need to notify him separately, seeing as he's already dropped a warning on my talk page?

Anmccaff (talk) 08:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

PS: This isn't happening in a vacuum will show a similar pattern, this time tag-teamed, but with the same substitution of papering of talk-pages with warnings for actual discussion. Anmccaff (talk) 08:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

• Stale.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:37, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

I am wondering if you could explain how something written up within a short time of occurrence could be "stale?" Anmccaff (talk) 03:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

ah...yes. I was kindly pointed out that I had mispelled "Pritikin" as "Scarsdale" above, which explains the idea of staleness. Whadda I do now, re-edit or resubmit?

• Note. I fixed the page reported and removed the stale finding in the result. However, I doubt I'll have time to review the complaint tonight, so hopefully another administrator can take a look.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:22, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

No violation – Three reverts on one side and two reverts on the other. This is not enough to break WP:3RR. The steps of WP:Dispute resolution are open to you. It is easier for admins to close these reports if you will list out the diffs in the usual way, presenting only the diffs of the party you are reporting (not your own) while linking to diffs and not versions. EdJohnston (talk) 14:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

I think my main concern is with the behavior problem, the substitution of template-plastering for discussion or decent editing. Dispute resolution only works with good-faith editing. Anmccaff (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Liberté&justice reported by User:Banfield (Result: 12 hours)

Page: Página/12 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Liberté&justice (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. diff
2. diff
3. diff
4. diff
5. diff
6. diff
7. diff

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 2 warnings:

Comments: Clear Single-purpose account that arbitrarily reverts editions referenced in a single article without providing any source to his changes, although the current version has appropriate references.Banfield - Threats here 01:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 12 hours Stifle (talk) 12:24, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Jerodlycett reported by User:wuerzele (Result: Filer blocked)

Page: Kevin Folta (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Jerodlycett (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: The last 2 reverts occurred in spite of and after I opened a discussion of two edits and no response to the discussion here and here

Comments: user has an undated statement on his talk page, that he is "currently experiencing mental health issues". I found no evidence that this was put up "recently", so I feel this sends an odd message. he should not editwar when having mental health issues, or take off the sign, if he is okay. the page is under attack by several tendentious editors, so action is needed.

Response by Jerod

First, Old revision of Talk:Kevin Folta shows I have been trying to have any and all changes discussed before Wuerzele even came across the page. I asked at Old revision of Kevin Folta that any removal of cited material be discussed at the talk page. As per the warning, Old revision of User talk:Jerodlycett Wuerzele placed it nearly an hour after my last edit Old revision of Kevin Folta

For the discussion, I Old revision of Talk:Kevin Folta replied, and felt there was no need to continue arguing once I saw the emotions in play with Wuerzele and Seren. After Wuerzele was warned Old revision of User talk:Wuerzele they made at least two reversions: and . I've included a list of reversions below. I'm not the only editor that had to revert stuff Wuerzele did. While one of us should have reported them we kept reverting, WP:IGNOREing the 3RR in an attempt to keep the article neutral. Wuerzele did make some constructive edits too. Jerod Lycett (talk) 01:43, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Reverts by Wuerzele

Comment by Nagle (talk · contribs)

This has been raised as an COI issue at WP:COIN#Kevin_Folta. There appears to be a COI issue, a BLP issue, edit warring, personal attacks, a huge number of recent edits starting Sep. 13, 2015, and a surprising number of involved editors who haven't been editing much else recently. I don't think we can do much for this at WP:COIN, and there are too many editors involved for simple 3RR blocks to help much. This article is going to need some form of dispute resolution. I suggest mediation. John Nagle (talk) 07:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked Wuerzele for 31 hours for violating WP:3RR. As far as I can tell, Wuerzele is the only editor among the many that are editing the article to do so. I've also reviewed the discussions at the talk page, and my sense is that Wuerzele's remarks are the least constructive to resolving the issues. Even with Wuerzele blocked, the article may need to be locked if disputes at the article continue without Wuerzele.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:130.204.142.213 reported by User:Borsoka (Result: Semi)

Page: Huns (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 130.204.142.213 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: (edit summary)

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

• Result: Semiprotected six months. This article has been a source of trouble in the past and there is a pattern of IP reverting that goes back for months. Though the latest IP editor may have some good ideas, the place to get support for them is on the talk page. Trying to force your changes in by reverting isn't going to end well. EdJohnston (talk) 03:43, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Second Dark reported by User:Jobrot (Result: 24 hours)

Page: Frankfurt School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Second Dark (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. diff
2. diff
3. diff
4. diff

Warning the user about proper usage of the NPOV tag:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Most recent 3RR warning (as the issue persists):

Comments:

This user has not raised any editorial changes yet claims Misplaced Pages is biased. They are a repeat offender, as evident from their user talk page. I've done all I can in the way of explaining policy to them, and they have violated 3RR. Thank you for any help. --Jobrot (talk) 06:38, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked 24 hours for 3RR. Stifle (talk) 12:20, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:109.148.57.243 reported by User:Guliolopez (Result: Blocked 72 hours)

Page: Template:Active Irish Air Corps Aircraft (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (plus 1989 Jonesborough ambush (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Air Corps (Ireland) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Irish Volunteers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and others)
User being reported: 109.148.57.243 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Template:Active_Irish_Air_Corps_Aircraft
2. 1989 Jonesborough ambush
3. Air Corps (Ireland)
4. Etc (Note: while some of these may not be strictly 3RR, these edits are offered as an example of general edit-warring behaviour on a range of articles over the last few days. Multiple editors have been trying to address. But it's getting tedious)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

4. (and other unlisted attempts by myself and other editors to get some engagement)

Comments:

• The warring editor is MFIreland (see: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/MFIreland/Archive). As evidenced by this quite obvious restoration of exactly the same copyvio content. This content was added by one of his confirmed socks 3 years ago and reverted/restored by the IP editor last week. This verbatim pattern of warring edits is not something one would expect from an unrelated anon. Ultimately should be dealt with under WP:LTA, but for now this IP should ideally be blocked. It's getting tedious. And while WP:3RRNO exemptions may apply (for restoring content removed/reverted by socks), until a block is applied this pattern of warring is likely to continue. (The same type of editwarring in the past has resulted in a volume of his other IPs being blocked . He'll probably pop-up again later - but with an LTA mandate, we'll just have to deal with that when it happens...). Guliolopez (talk) 14:34, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• His first revert of the infobox at Irish Volunteers actually led me to open a discussion, where there was a concerted effort to agree a format. But 109.148.57.243 just reverted again and again, ignoring an invitation to join the discussion. As a result the article needed to be semi-protected. Given what Guliolopez has said, an SPI is probably in order. Scolaire (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
• Blocked – for a period of 72 hours Swarm ♠ 16:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:JoesphBarbaro reported by User:Amaury (Result: Blocked 72 hours)

Page

List of Zoey 101 episodes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

JoesphBarbaro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 21:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC) to 21:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
   1. 21:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC) "Total nonsense. I'm following production order."
   2. 21:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC) ""
2. 21:07, 14 September 2015 (UTC) "Nonsense. Four episodes (Spring-Break Up, The Curse of PCA, Goodbye Zoey and Chasing Zoey) are not one-single episodes. They're two parts according to production code. How about you do this on every other article while you're at it?"
3. 21:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC) "Take a look at other TV show articles like Danny Phantom, SpongeBob SquarePants, Drake & Josh and get back to me."
4. 21:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 681047851 by Geraldo Perez (talk) Sucking my teeth"
5. 21:38, 14 September 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 681050853 by MPFitz1968 (talk) This has been explain in detail and yet nobody wants to listen."
6. 09:04, 15 September 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 681060509 by Amaury (talk) Don't be so damn silly now."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 22:54, 14 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Episode numbering */ Comment"

Comments:

Both Geraldo Perez and myself have tried to explain to him that production codes basically mean nothing. What matters is how episodes are packaged, and some episodes of Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, Disney XD, and other channels are packaged as one episode that's double the length of a normal episode. For example, the finale of Degrassi season 14 was four production codes, but it was packaged as a two-hour movie (including commercials).

Josepth fails to listen and keeps using the same arguments, such as, "That's how other articles have them." Whether that's correct or not doesn't matter (because some episodes do air as an hour special and such, but are actually two separate episodes). How things are done on other articles shouldn't take precedence over other articles, especially if those other articles are incorrect.

On top of that, Josepth keeps reverting the article to his preferred version without waiting for a consensus to be reached and is being extremely hostile toward those who disagree with him. Amaury (talk) 15:51, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 72 hours Swarm ♠ 16:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

User:SWASTIK 25 reported by User:Qed237 (Result: Blocked)

Page

Cristiano Ronaldo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

SWASTIK 25 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 20:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 681203077 by Qed237 (talk)"
2. 20:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC) ""
3. 17:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 681180388 by Kante4 (talk)"
4. 17:27, 15 September 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 681177811 by Kante4 (talk)"
5. 17:05, 15 September 2015 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 20:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC) "Warning: Violating the three-revert rule on Cristiano Ronaldo. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

User keeps edit warring and shows no interest to stop. He modifies content without source at Real Madrid article and add not notable content (with live updates) on Cristiano Ronaldo. Qed237 (talk) 20:47, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

This is User:SWASTIK 25. I am just keeping the article updated. What's the problem of User:Qed237 in it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SWASTIK 25 (talk • contribs)

• Comment - As an uninvolved editor, I have to agree with Qed237. SWASTIK keeps adding pointless information to the article; who cares if Ronaldo is four goals away from breaking Raul's record? All that matters is when he actually breaks it. – PeeJay 20:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
• Blocked – for a period of 31 hours.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

3RR by User:Gothicfilm on Battle for the Planet of the Apes reported by User:Taeyebaar(result: protected, apes warned to keep protection to selves)

Gothicfilm (talk · contribs) removed a label from Battle for the Planet of the Apes a total number of four times today .--Taeyebaar (talk) 23:25, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Page protected, as an alternative to blocking both of you. You perpetuated an edit war just as much as Gothicfilm. Consider dispute resolution. Swarm ♠ 04:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Take your stinking protection off me, you damn dirty ape! Lugnuts 06:56, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

• Even if the user broke the 3RR . I even gave a warning --Taeyebaar (talk) 18:44, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Alan Azuma reported by User:Pankoroku (Result: Declined)

Page

File:Concentration of whites in the American Continent.png

User being reported

Alan Azuma (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

• 1
• 2
• 3

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

User keeps reverting the improved changes on the map to an old version with no logical or official source, to that thematic map. The following map File:Concentration of whites in the American Continent.png was improved since the old one had some errors on it. It was improved with official sources. Between the errors on this map is that Venezuelan concentration of white people were located on the old map on the Eastern side (something it's not true since the white population in Venezuela are in the andean, western, central and capital region), and it's sourced to be below 20% when offical data for the entire country is 43,3%. Colombia is shown as an homogeneous country, while official data shown that white population are mostly concentrated in Andean states, and some coastal and amazonian states are less this. Other fixed countries are Ecuador, Peru, Costa Rica, Chile and Cuba. The official sources are:

• Cuba: http://www.one.cu/publicaciones/cepde/cpv2012/20131107resumenadelantado/tablas/4.pdf
• Peru: http://espejodelperu.com.pe/Poblacion-del-Peru/index.htm
• Ecuador: http://www.ecuadorencifras.gob.ec/resultados/
• Chile: http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-98872014000300001&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en
• Colombia: http://www.dane.gov.co/files/censo2005/etnia/sys/colombia_nacion.pdf
• Venezuela: http://www.redatam.ine.gob.ve/Censo2011/index.html

The user Alan Azuma keeps reverting this improvements, without an explication nor data to defend his revert. --Pankoroku (talk) 23:44, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Declined. @Pankoroku: this image is actually located at Misplaced Pages's sister site, Commons. Misplaced Pages administrators have no power over actions taken there. You should file a report regarding this at ANB on that site (the administrators' noticeboard for blocking and protection requests). You can log in there with your Misplaced Pages username and password. To get to the page, you can type in the shortcut COM:ANB at Commons, or c:COM:ANB from Misplaced Pages. Swarm ♠ 05:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm a Commons admin; I'll take a look. Stifle (talk) 07:25, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

    Both users warned on Commons. Stifle (talk) 07:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

User:User:SyriaWarLato reported by User:Mztourist (Result: 4 days)

Page: Vietnam War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: SyriaWarLato (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Vietnam War#Infobox edit war about casualties

Comments:

User:User:SyriaWarLato continues to edit war at Vietnam War, despite being blocked for this last week: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:SyriaWarLato reported by User:Mztourist (Result: Blocked) and refuses to accept consensus on the Talk Page Mztourist (talk) 12:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC) -->

• Blocked – for a period of 4 days. A further offense will tend to establish a contravention of WP:NOTHERE and will be considered very dimly. Stifle (talk) 13:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Ududafggfg reported by User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (Result: blocked )

Page

Nature (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Ududafggfg (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 14:20, 16 September 2015 (UTC) ""
2. 14:50, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "Why is this image odd?"
3. 14:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "Why did you keep removing waterfall image?"
4. 14:52, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 681320370 by Serols (talk)"
5. 14:54, 16 September 2015 (UTC) ""
6. 14:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "STOP REMOVING WATERFALL IMAGE IDIOT!"
7. 15:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "This is clearly a waterfall, are you blind?"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Warned twice on TP. _Fortuna 15:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked by another admin --slakr 16:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

== User:Mahir007 reported by User:Philip J Fry (Result: No violation ) ==

Page

Binbir Gece (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Mahir007 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 10:49, 16 September 2015 (UTC) to 11:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
   1. 10:49, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   2. 10:52, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   3. 10:53, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   4. 10:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   5. 11:06, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   6. 11:14, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   7. 11:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   8. 11:19, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   9. 11:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
   10. 11:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* International Broadcasters */"
2. 10:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 10:43, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Binbir Gece‎ */ new section"
2. 13:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "Caution: Unconstructive editing on Binbir Gece. (TW)"
3. 19:20, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Binbir Gece‎ */"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Now delete this information. Since Misplaced Pages does not allow programming guide. According to WP:NOTVGUIDE.But the Mahir007 user, does not want to accept this, and has decided to wage a war of editions, with your own account and an ip.I clearly explain because I got rid of his edit and delete this information, but the user does not want to understand. I hope that any admin can do something about. Philip J Fry • (talk) 19:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

• No violation – these edits are all consecutive and so count as at most one revert. Please discuss your edit dispute on the talk page. Stifle (talk) 08:56, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Aslanstatistic123 reported by User:Akerbeltz (Result: both blocked for 24 hours)

Page: Adıyaman Province (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Aslanstatistic123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

This user has a persistent problem with anything relating to Kurds. Deletion of Kurdish place names (most of the above diffs, there are more), population statistics involving Kurds (also the above page), see also

and where the user attempted to falsify the figures given in the source:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on user talk page:

This is a simple case of vandalism, there was nothing really to resolve through talking to the user, having run into this attitude on numerous occasions.

Comments:

• Both editors blocked – for a period of 24 hours. I have considered whether User:Akerbeltz was exempt under WP:3RRNO item 4 and have concluded that he/she was not as the edits reverted were not obvious vandalism. Stifle (talk) 09:01, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

User:99.233.155.197 reported by User:Geraldo Perez (Result: 60 hours)

Page

Girl Meets World (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

99.233.155.197 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 22:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
2. 22:34, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
3. Consecutive edits made from 22:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC) to 22:33, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
   1. 22:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
   2. 22:33, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
4. 22:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
5. Consecutive edits made from 22:27, 16 September 2015 (UTC) to 22:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
   1. 22:27, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
   2. 22:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
6. Consecutive edits made from 22:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC) to 22:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
   1. 22:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
   2. 22:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
   3. 22:22, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
   4. 22:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
7. Consecutive edits made from 22:13, 16 September 2015 (UTC) to 22:16, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
   1. 22:13, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"
   2. 22:14, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Characters */"
   3. 22:16, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Main characters */"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 22:24, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "Warning: Disruptive editing on Girl Meets World. (TW)"
2. 22:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "Warning: Violating the three-revert rule on Girl Meets World. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

• Already blocked for 60 hours by User: 5 albert square. Stifle (talk) 10:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

User:CFredkin reported by User:Vanamonde93 (Result: Warning)

Page

Political positions of Jeb Bush (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

CFredkin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 03:40, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "Removing content until there's consensus in Talk regarding whether and how it should be included per WP:BRD."
2. 04:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Civil liberties and electronic surveillance */ add source and edit for neutrality"
3. 15:19, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "/* Civil liberties and electronic surveillance */ source doesn't say it would increase government surveillance."
4. 15:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 681325783 by MrX (talk) sources don't say the plan would increase government surveillance by establishing a "command focus""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

CFredkin has been blocked several times before, so no warning is required. Although the last edit to this page was a few hours ago, he continues to make successive reverts on other pages. Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:34, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

The first edit above was made in error. I noted that and apologized for it in Talk. The edit was re-reverted before I could self-revert. Interestingly Vanamonde makes no reference to the Talk discussion (which he did not participate in) at all in his complaint.CFredkin (talk) 01:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

To clarify Vanamonde's statement above, the last edit in the dispute was almost 9 hours ago. The last edit of the article was less than an hour ago by Vanamonde when he chose to re-initiate the edit war without participating in the Talk discussion.CFredkin (talk) 02:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, I'm not sure if current activity on other pages is relevant here, but in any case I don't think the example Vanamonde provides supports his point.CFredkin (talk) 02:28, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

• Warned – as things have calmed down now, all of you play fair please. Stifle (talk) 10:42, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Cassianto reported by User:Erpert (Result: No violation)

Page: Talk:Ariana Grande (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Cassianto (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: (if this counts)

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: (The edit summaries in the above diffs contain the conversation, but it stems from here.)

Comments: While I can respect that enough users don't appear to agree with my side of the situation, what I don't condone is Cassianto's way of handling things. He first appeared to have an attitude in his comments earlier in the discussion (albeit those weren't directed toward me); but things really came to a head when he deleted my entire comment by claiming that it was off-topic. I clearly explained that the comment was not off-topic (as well as warned him for violating WP:TPO); still, he wouldn't let up. I then told him that if he reverted a third time, I would start a thread here; after which he not only archived the thread, but he also left a message on my talk page stating that he didn't "give a shit" if I made a report.

I really don't think edit-warring by closing a discussion that he not only participated in but also categorized incorrectly was appropriate. Wouldn't it have been better if someone uninvolved closed the discussion if they felt the need to? (I didn't revert the close because I didn't want to violate WP:3RR myself.) Erpert 04:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

• Erpert was sprawling for a fight with SchroCat and despite being told on the Grande talk page to "keep to the topic", Erpert still decided to pursue their conquest by engaging in an unproductive argument. The thread header was "Navbox" and the topic of that conversation should remain at "Navbox". If the user wanted to change that subject, by talking about another improvement-based topic they should've built a sub-header or started a different subject altogether. However, if they felt the need to discuss the conduct of another user, they should've approached that user on their talk page to discuss things, not conduct a public argument to the detriment of that article's talk page. Bringing an edit war argument to an article talk page, which is designed for article improvement, is disruptive and does not benefit the article in the least. I closed the discussion, which I'm permitted to do as an uninvolved party, as a productive way to end the dispute before things got worse. And guess what, it worked! Cassianto 07:11, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

• As an semi-involved editor (involved in the thread, not the reversions), there has been no breach of 3RR here. It requires four reversions to breach 3RR, not the two that Cassianto has undertaken. The third diff provided above was Cassianto closing the discussion leaving Erpert's comments in place, and not edit warring - or even coming close to it. (A reminder that WP:3RR states "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period").

As there has been no breach of WP:3RR here, I suggest this is speedily closed. - SchroCat (talk) 07:20, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

• No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. Stifle (talk) 08:55, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

  I strongly urge an admin to close this thread asap. Pointless bollocks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:21, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

  It's already closed. Stifle (talk) 13:39, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

User:BiKaz reported by User:Toddy1 (Result: 60 hours)

Page: Barelvi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: BiKaz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: 00:40, 6 September 2015

There has been a slow edit-war concerning the Barelvi#Criticism section. The editor refuses to participate in discussion on the article talk page, and only communicates through edit summaries.

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 20:16, 6 September 2015 reverts User:ScholarM
2. 22:11, 7 September 2015 reverts User:GorgeCustersSabre
3. 22:25, 8 September 2015 reverts User:GorgeCustersSabre
4. 22:32, 10 September 2015 reverts User:ScholarM
5. 20:09, 16 September 2015 reverts User:GorgeCustersSabre

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 06:40, 11 September 2015

Attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Barelvi#Ehsan Elahi Zaheer's book.

Attempt to persuade BiKaz to discuss the issues User talk:BiKaz#Barelvi

-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:28, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Comments:

• Blocked – for a period of 2½ days Stifle (talk) 10:45, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

User:95.89.18.195 reported by User:Mountaincirque (Result: )

Page

Cryptozoology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

95.89.18.195 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 10:36, 17 September 2015 (UTC) ""long-standing consensus" referred to is not sufficient reason for bias"
2. 11:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC) ""mainstream encyclopedia" should mean that negative bias is not acceptable"
3. 11:51, 17 September 2015 (UTC) "negative bias is proper justification - by the way, you're the one who is waging an edit war"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Has repeatedly made and reverted correcting edits claiming they are biased when this IP is obviously biased in nature, trying to remove text claiming that cryptozoology is a pseudoscience, a referenced fact in the article. Mountain 13:06, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Be aware that only the direct statement that cryptozoology is a pseudoscience was removed because this was a prejudicial judgment. Additional comments in the article referring to claims that cryptozoology is a pseudoscience were left in. So the purpose of these edits was to establish neutrality in the article. This was repeatedly attacked and my good intentions were castigated as an edit war. A similar warning should also be sent to other editors involved, otherwise this is simply a form of censorship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.89.18.195 (talk) 13:33, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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