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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi PhD

Who the f*** allowed you to remove my reference? My sources are always good. Ayman al-Zawahiri also holds several degrees. Don't edit my stuff again or I'm gonna be unfriendly. --KingOneBozz (talk) 11:16, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

I have left a message about this on your Talk page, giving the reason for my edit and saying how you can dispute this change! --P123ct1 (talk) 11:42, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Harold Puthoff's PhD

• See and "Dr. Puthoff holds bachelor's and master's degrees in electrical engineering from the University of Florida and in 1967 was awarded a Ph.D. from Stanford University." .

• Jack David, ‎Michael Park. (1978). Playback: Canadian Selections. McClelland and Stewart. p. 68. "Hal Puthoff, has a Ph.D. in electrical engineering from Stanford University. He worked for the Naval Security Group in Washington and then for the National Security Agency."

• Hugh Urban. (2013). The Church of Scientology: A History of a New Religion. Princeton University Press. p. 113. "A physicist with a PhD from Stanford University, Harold Puthoff joined Scientology in the late 1960s and quickly advanced to the OT VII level by 1971." .

P123cat1 you claimed there's no references but you obviously did not look. Goblin Face (talk) 01:25, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I most certainly did look, but not in the right places, obviously. --P123cat1 (talk) 15:27, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Explaining

I patrolled your page. I went through the enormously-backlogged list of newly-created pages and confirmed that your page was okay: not spam, not an attack page, not a copyright violation, not any of the other reasons for which I would delete someone's page without asking. Then I clicked "patrolled" to remove it from the list of "pages that have not yet been patrolled", and moved on to the next entry. That's all. DS (talk) 13:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

A big red outline is an excellent idea. I've only had the notice up for a few days, though; most of the "Why did you do that" messages pre-date it. DS (talk) 13:50, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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Italics and other HTML

To answer the question that you removed... To use italics, you surround the text with two single quote marks. You can find other stuff at WP:CHEATSHEET. Dismas| 08:47, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

WP:HD

Hi P123cat1, I answered at the helpdesk. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 19:08, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Username change request

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Nicki Minaj videography

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copy editing

Hi P123ct1

I note that you have been copy editing our Illuminati article... thanks. Just one word of caution: I note that you have been changing US spellings to UK spellings (example organization --> organisation). In case you didn't know, normal Misplaced Pages practice is that whoever first writes an article gets to determine whether to use US or UK spelling ... and unless the article has a distinct UK or US focus we shouldn't change it (see WP:ENGVAR).
I don't expect anyone who works on the Illuminati article will really care one way or the other (we have more important things to argue about), but know that people at other articles do care, and they get upset when someone "fixes" US to UK spelling (or UK to US spelling)... so, I suggest that you avoid "fixing" spellings unless there is a good reason (and if so, discuss it on the talk page first). Most importantly, if someone reverts your spelling "fixes", don't edit war over it. Blueboar (talk) 13:40, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

No need to revert yourself (although it looks like I'm too late in saying that)... as I said, I don't think anyone really cares whether the spelling is UK or US in that article (one is as valid as the other since the topic is neither US or UK focused). I really just wanted to ensure that you were aware of common practice, so you didn't piss someone off in some other article.

Your other edits to Illuminati have been excellent. Thanks for improving the article. Blueboar (talk) 21:25, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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ISIL

Most of the stuff about when they were still "al-Qaeda in Iraq" was written there by me several years ago. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 15:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Indent your posts

WP:INDENT. SpinningSpark 18:04, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Hope you told off all the other offenders, as this is a common mistake. I never even knew there was a rule about this! --P123ct1 (talk) 22:35, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

ISISSSSSS

Hey! Saw you didn't like my vicious pruning. Perhaps I went too far? I saw the "too long" tag on it, and acted, but feel free to add back a brief summary of whatever I took out that you feels needs mentioning in lede! :D AntiqueReader (talk) 12:18, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

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Ideology and beliefs

Hey! Thanks for the Barnstar. I've got a suggestion for ISIS article:

• Moving the"Ideology and beliefs" subheading from a subheading status to a "heading" one. It might be included right after "Territorial claims" heading. "Ideology and beliefs" talks about their ideology and beliefs ignoring their history or background, so being a subheading is not suitable for this topic. Besides, some offshoot topics such as Jihad of Nikah (Sexual Jihad) might be included and explained. Mhhossein (talk) 13:02, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Sources

By adding "it was reported", a writer is implying that the statement is not verified as a fact. This is fair enough, identifying who reported something in the text of the article makes it easy for the reader to evaluate the trustworthiness of the statement for her or himself without having to refer to the footnotes. I place a different weight on the credibility of The Economist than I do on that of The Kurdistan Times, both of which are used as references in this article. Regards, Ground Zero | t 00:58, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

• I don't think "governorates" needs to be capitalized. It like "American states" or Canadian provinces" or "English cities". These words are not proper nouns in these contexts. Ground Zero | t 01:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Don't get disheartened. The beauty of Misplaced Pages is that anyone can edit it. The tragedy of Misplaced Pages is that anyone can edit it. As with any groupsourced project, it becomes more successful as more reasonable people work on it. If it becomes dominated by a few who seek to promote agendas, then people will stop reading it. In this edit, User:Gazkthul seems to have reverted to an earlier version, wiping out the work of you and others. Given how many people will be reading this very topical article these days, it will require and deserve extra vigilance. Regards, Ground Zero | t 02:06, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, i'm not sure what happened on that edit, I was only trying to change the Ideology & Belief section. No harm intended. Gazkthul (talk) 04:00, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Abu Omar al-Shishani

Hi P123ct1, could you be more specific on the contradictions you noticed on the above article? Gazkthul (talk) 00:47, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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Cooperation

I mentioned you, because I wanted you to back me up against vandalism. Your removing of "even" is right and thanks for that. But some one is deliberately omitting some of the sections. he has warned to deleted the entire "Treatment of civilians". He has reverted "sexual violence" section three times, once against me and two times against other users. He can at most add his findings, not removing all of the as he likes!. I think he should be warned for involving war editing. just look at his reversions and editions. Mhhossein (talk) 10:34, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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	I'm amazed at your tireless work on articles relating to civil was in Syria and Iraq. Keep it up! Technophant (talk) 11:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

@Technophant: Thanks very much! It's just that I have a lot of time on my hands at the moment. Also, it's a fascinating topic! --P123ct1 (talk) 12:04, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Either way, good job. - Technophant (talk) 01:47, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Your input is requested

While I've had nothing but good interactions on Iraq related articles, I've had major problems trying to get recent research regarding acupuncture theory incorporated in acupuncture, referred itch, and myofascial meridians. There's an Rfc at the myofascial talk page. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. - Technophant (talk) 18:17, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Email as a source

I noticed you were discussing this. We wouldn't accept an email as sources need to be reliably published, see WP:RS. Dougweller (talk) 15:37, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Reflink

Following the message you left at my talk page, I checked the discussion on Reflink but I didn't understand whether it's finally shut down or not! Why is it accessible if it's removed? Mhhossein (talk) 11:15, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Editing archived pages

I just noticed that you edited an archived page. That's not allowed, unless it's some type of archive page maintenance. I'm sure this was accidental, so just keep up the good work in other areas. -- Brangifer (talk) 18:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

tools

This page has a "user contribution" menu in the "tools" menu on the left. There you can specify the month, year and type of pages.

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(This is the link he sent on VP Help desk:=

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Talkback

--k6ka (talk | contribs) 19:00, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

recent post about footnotes

Looked like the right page to me. I was going to reply and it vanished! Dougweller (talk) 10:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Terrorist

Responding here. I know you haven't. He once again has said he won't edit the article anymore after I pointed out on his talk page that 1RR is not a right and he is editing against consensus. I don't think he's happy. Dougweller (talk) 21:07, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

"Cut my head off is slang". To see it as racist shows a lack of good faith. And of course " Your two-faced underhanded statement(s) about me are racist" is a personal attack. There are times however when good faith doesn't have to be extended - and if an editor continually fails to show good faith towards other editors, that editor may not merit good faith being extended to them. But you have shown nothing but good faith towards other editors. Dougweller (talk) 10:15, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

All a bit strange, when I don't even know what nationality he is! --P123ct1 (talk)

I agree with your comment. Some people are best ignored. You might want to read User talk:Dougweller#Thanks also. Dougweller (talk) 10:47, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I think the problem started with the word "terrorist" in the lead being too strong and flouting WP:NPOV. Although the organization is considered terrorist, we don't use it as an adjective. Supersaiyen312 (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

@Supersaiyen312: You are quite right, it did, and indeed that was the reason. Have you read the long discussion about it on the Talk page? I tried to explain why NPOV was important, but it was hard to get the message across. Dougweller has now reverted the last insertion of "terrorist" as I didn't want to edit-war! We can only say that ISIS is a terrorist organisation by saying that it is designated as such by governments and called that by media sources - in other words, we cannot say it directly. We need some foreign overseas media sources for the footnotes at the end of that sentence, so if you can find any, it would be a great help! We don't want more than five footnotes in all, and can swap some of the US and UK ones for a couple of foreignoverseas ones. I am not quite sure what Dougweller meant by "foreign""overseas" (he suggested this on the Talk page), but I presume he meant just non-US and non-UK. If you can find some (I found the others), just put them on the Talk page and we can decide which of them to put in. --P123ct1 (talk) 14:16, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

@Supersaiyen312: And thanks for that note you put on the Talk page just now (which I have just read). It is very useful to have that stated clearly for readers, to give them the context of that long discussion. --P123ct1 (talk) 14:23, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Referred to you

but not by name at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Editor Retention#Despair - I hope you don't mind. I certainly wasn't thinking of him when I started that section, but his behavior and name-calling is the sort of thing that does drive editors away, although he obviously sees it differently. He certainly should have have reinstated that post to his talk page that you wrote and then decided to remove. Dougweller (talk) 15:46, 2 August 2014 (UTC) (I think he means "shouldn't" P123ct1)

Removing an edit you made from someone else's talk page

I think that's ok, especially when no one has replied, but raised it at Misplaced Pages talk:User pages#Guidance on editors reinstating a post added & then removed by another because I'd like something added to our guidance. Dougweller (talk) 14:10, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. It's all there in the history of course, so any other Admin or in fact any editor can see it. I noticed what he reverted. Doesn't matter. Dougweller (talk) 15:11, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Done!

0) --Damián A. Fernández Beanato (talk) 08:35, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Technophant

I would like to make certain that you are aware of Misplaced Pages:Banning_policy#Edits by and on behalf of banned users. You are not permitted to edit on Technophant's behalf. I hope that any e-mail exchange you may be having is strictly of a personal nature and does not relate to any article edits.—Kww(talk) 13:27, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

No proxy behavior, just personal emails and Technophant is unblocked now. --P123ct1

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A kitten for you!

Thank you for taking the time to defend your friends. You seem like a kind person and you deserve recognition. (I've been following the Technophant case.)

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Our friend

Given his edit summary calling you a stalker, shall I take him to ANI? I wouldn't want to do this if you'd prefer me not to or don't intend to participate if I do. Dougweller (talk) 10:26, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Name

I'll start an RfC shortly. Using 'the' would be very unusual, by the way, unless we can show that most reliable English language sources use it. All this translation or transliteration stuff is really irrelevant as we go by reliable English language sources, not our interpretations of the Arabic. Dougweller (talk) 08:19, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Islamic state article

Careful with your edits, I see Worldedixor has obviously broken 1RR. His post to the talk page is a bit odd, no? Dougweller (talk) 10:36, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@Dougweller: It is very odd. I'm not sure who that was referring to or why. There was no need to alter anything after his revert as he made some other changes afterwards and everything reads okay now. In fact, he did three good edits subsequently, I thought, one quote correction, a new footnote and brief expansion of an earlier entry in the 2014 timeline. The expansion added the word "genocide" (5th August entry), which wasn't actually in the citation, but it is what was meant. (I don't remember anything being deleted there as he notes.) Do you think it is all right to use "genocide" if not in a citation, or is it one of those loaded words again? And would it be appropriate to remind editors on the Talk page to do their citations properly? Nearly every other foonote has been a bare URL lately! --P123ct1 (talk) 12:12, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

It is definitely a word we should only use with sources - like terrorists. Even if we agree it's correct. These bare urls are a pain, maybe notify any editor who adds one? Dougweller (talk) 13:18, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@Dougweller: I will have to leave reverting "genocide" which is not in the citation (except briefly highlighted in a snippet from a Tweet at the bottom of the article) until tomorrow, as I don't want to break the 1RR! --P123ct1 (talk) 13:39, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm baaaack! I've also added my support for merger of Yazidi persecution by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant for the time being. - Technophant (talk) 20:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
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Replied

Over to you now I think if you feel up to it. Dougweller (talk) 13:22, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Anwar al-Awlaki

Hi. Re. your edits to the article, such as and , the Misplaced Pages Manual of Style suggests (a) to write "UK", and not "U.K."; and, (b), although "U.S." is acceptable in other circumstances, it suggests writing "US" in articles that also use other national abbreviations such as "UK". Perhaps you would consider changing the spellings back, given the MOS guidance? Best, It Is Me Here 12:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

I was aware of MoS, and changed "US" to "U.S." and "UK" to "U.K." only to be consistent with the many other mentions in the article. Have now reverted my edit and changed all other mentions in the article of "U.S." and "U.K." to "US" and "UK". --P123ct1 (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

We've got a help desk for wiki stuff

See Misplaced Pages:Help desk. Not my cup of tea, sorry. Dougweller (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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IS or ISIS, 'terrorists'?

Dear colleague, I've just posed some mild criticism concerning a recent edit of yours, on: Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant#Citations needed for countries in Lead. Perhaps you feel like reacting on that. --Corriebertus (talk) 16:22, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Note to self: answered on Talk page. --P123ct1 (talk) 17:47, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Lucky it was only mild criticism, given what he says to others. --P123ct1 (talk) 13:56, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

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"If you need an edit done... "

P123ct1, I just noticed this offer on Worldedixor's page. It's completely inappropriate. Please don't game the 1RR restriction or attempt to trade "1RR allowances". Bishonen | talk 12:40, 29 August 2014 (UTC).

Replied saying had already resolved this with the admin and that it was an offer genuinely made without thought of the implications.

You are being mentioned again

Worldelixor has brought his complaint against you and I collaborating to User:Adjwilley's talk page. ~Technophant (talk) 00:56, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

You mean possibly collaborating! There has been none! --P123ct1 (talk) 01:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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	I can't believe it, you have 4,620 "Live edits" and 0 "Deleted edits". That has to be a record!! ~Technophant (talk) 13:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Remember nearly all of them are only copy-edits and some very tiny, and that an awful lot of them were repairs/corrections of footnotes! I imagine copy-editors clock up more edits than "contributing" editors by the nature of their work: small adjustments here and there to get an article into decent shape for the reading public. It is humble work, by my, does Misplaced Pages need it; there are so many badly written articles I have been shocked by it. --P123ct1 (talk) 14:23, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Hurry up and make one more minor edit then you'll have 500. It only takes one user to ruin your record. ~Technophant (talk) 17:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done --P123ct1 (talk) 17:29, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks, Doug. --P123ct1 (talk) 15:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Sources problems

That's what WP:RSN is for. Clear section heading, eg "Is this source suitable for the statement....", then "X source is being used to back this: "statement....". I believe it fails WP:RS because... or some such wording. Got to make pancakes now. Dougweller (talk) 07:29, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Question on footnotes

I've checked all the links on Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Notes and was unable to locate a problem. Could you point me in the right direction?

Thanks. Gregkaye ✍♪ 08:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for coming back on this. There is a quotation which has ISIL instead of ISIS according to the footnote. The quote in the text begins "ISIL is the strongest group in Northern Syria ..." which you can find with search button and compare with the quote in the citation. The other two text quotes that had ISIL were okay. The two footnotes that have ISIL instead of ISIS are numbers 82 and 105. I checked all the others that had ISIL in the title, but they were okay. You must have done a global change from ISIS to ISIL; it would account for why the footnotes and quotation were changed. It can be quite dangerous to do global changes, for just this sort of reason! Fortunately it didn't stop those footnotes from calling up okay, which surprised me, tbh. If you could just change those few instances back to ISIS, this will close the problem. Footnotes can sometimes be a great nuisance and are often more trouble than they are worth, in my opinion! I don't think you have done any yet, but when you compose a footnote, can you always do it using the WP cite templates, please, as bare URLs can go dead at any time. I left a note about it for editors in the Talk page here, but some will insist on leaving them as bare URLs. Very frustrating. I don't know how experienced you are with composing footnotes, but I have drawn up a template with some simple instructions which I could let you have if you like; I made one as the WP instructions are none too clear unless you can run the accompanying video. Cheers, P123ct1 (talk) 09:31, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Hopefully that's all done now but let me know if there is anything else. I only really have experience with citations through the edit cite function so a link to a guide on footnotes could really help. Thanks for that. Gregkaye ✍♪ 13:34, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll have a look, and in the meantime here is the boilerplate message, or whatever the right terminology is. If you know how to use the edit cite function, you probably won't need it, but it's useful to pass around to others. (You can see the code for it in the wikitext of this message - it ain't patented!)

Composing footnotes using the WP cite templates

(Summary of WP:FOOTNOTES section 3.1.)

Please note that bare URL footnotes – i.e. footnotes that contain only the website http address – are susceptible to link-rot, which means that if the website moves to a new domain with a new URL, the link will be broken and readers will be unable to read the citation.

1. First put the cursor at the point in the edit text where you want the footnote to go, then click "Cite" in the edit strip at the top of the Edit Page, then click "Templates" on the left, and a drop-down menu appears.
2. Choose "cite web" or "cite news" (for articles and websites), "cite book" or "cite journal", click and a box comes up.
3. Fill in the all details of the citation, then click "Preview" and "Show parsed preview" to see it looks right. (To correct anything, correct the box entries, then click the two "Previews" again.) In "cite book" remember to add the page number(s) of the book.
4. Click "Insert" and the citation automatically goes into the edit text. (It may not go in at the exact point where the cursor is if you use Firefox or Chrome.)

That's it. --P123ct1 (talk) 13:43, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

All good. Deletion was as the hatnote at the top of my talk page and as per talk page history. Thanks again. Gregkaye ✍♪ 15:05, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Gregkaye: I checked as well and all okay now, phew. Thanks. Sorry about the double-posting muddle, btw, forgot to erase my message to you here when I decided to post it on your TP instead! --P123ct1 (talk) 16:12, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Not a problem. I just think its good practice to reply directly to comments, where possible in sequence and things like that. Gregkaye ✍♪ 16:18, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Happy United Kingdom staying united day!

I'm not sure about your feelings about this, however this does seem to be a good thing for the economic and political stability of England. I want to show you a useful little website to fix text that's all uppercase or lowercase called http://convertcase.net/. It's very useful for fixing refs.~Technophant (talk) 16:51, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Technophant: Thanks! What a useful site. I feel like I've been given a present! Even though I am part Scottish on my father's side - he was half-Scots though very "Scottish" as he grew up there - I am glad they lost the vote. Best result for England! --P123ct1 (talk) 17:17, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

When facing a Barn Start

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		Dedicated to the realistic and experienced editor who "wouldn't start from here" Gregkaye ✍♪ 14:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		In respect for much the same reason. I looked for a perseverance barnstar but that was not to be. Gregkaye ✍♪ 14:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

@Gregkaye: Thanks! That was a real surprise. I am glad I have managed to make someone laugh on a Talk page. Actually I am not that experienced, which is probably quite useful. A relative newcomer (February this year) can perhaps see things more clearly than those who are more deeply involved, and I do like to call a spade a spade though haven't dared to yet in Misplaced Pages. The ISIS Talk page is unusually quiet - I don't know where all the other editors have gone - so perhaps that gave me courage. You see things for what they are as well, as you are new to the ISIS page. It ought to shake things up a bit. --P123ct1 (talk) 14:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)