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28 May 2014

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Suspected sockpuppets


DVMt has been recently blocked for persistent sockpuppetry, and has edited Acupuncture and Talk:Acupuncture as Klocek just before being blocked. Suddenly after DVMt got blocked, at Acupuncture another dormant account is revived after about five years of dormancy and shows up editing the article. At Onediscdrive self-identifies as a licensed acupuncturist, and DVMt self-identified as scientist and acupuncturist on his own user page. I have a strong suspicion that they are the same person. At User_talk:Klocek the same argument about an account being revived after eight years of inactivity was made. Tgeorgescu (talk) 18:54, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm the one that upgraded the block. I may have misidentified the sock master, but there's no way that this is anything but a sleeper account. 10 edits in a burst the day of account creation, an eight-year gap, and then leaping in to restore the edits of another account that I blocked doesn't lead to any other conclusions.—

— Kww(talk) 13:48, 28 May 2014 (UTC), User talk:Klocek
Quoted by Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:31, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Ricflairsbutt (blocked by User:Kww)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Kshilts meatpuppet/sock account

https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Jayaguru-Shishya meatpuppet/sock account

Kshilts deleted pseudoscientific and other text from the chiropractic lede

Kshilts wrote on March 31, 2014 "I'll put together some references on efficacy and cost-effectiveness as you have asked."

Jayaguru-Shishya on April 1, 2014 put together some references and also deleted the word pseudoscientific from the chiropractic lede. Jayaguru-Shishya is strongly against including the word "pseudoscientific". See Talk:Chiropractic/Archive_37#Pseudo-science. This kind of behavior to unilateral change the lede using meat/puppet accounts should not be tolerated. QuackGuru (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Klocek is not a sockpuppet of any other user. I know him personally and can vouch for him. All he has done was to stop editing for 8 years, which he has explained on his talk page. He should be unblocked -- or do a checkuser first and you will see that the accounts are unrelated. HGilbert (talk) 22:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Klocek

Technically, meatpuppet is also a possibility to be considered. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
The odds that the accounts of two independent acupuncturists which were dormant for at least five years will be revived the same day week in order to help a fellow acupuncturist are astronomically low. So, this suggests at least meatpuppeting. What I wrote above about DVMt editing as Klocek was by assuming that Kww applied WP:Duck, as he stated it himself in the quote I have offered. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:19, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
I've looked at the edit history; it appears to me that Klocek's edits have nothing whatsoever to do with DVMt's edits. Completely different material. Am I missing something? Furthermore, your assumption that Klocek is an acupuncturist seems to be based on as flimsy evidence as the rest of this. Or did you merely mean an editor of the acupuncture article? HGilbert (talk) 22:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
The problem would not lie in trusting Klocek, the problem would lie in knowing that Klocek isn't the same person as DVMt, since this would imply that you know both persons, and therefore would give substance to the allegations of meatpuppetry. DVMt stated that he is a scientist and Klocek stated at Dennis Klocek that he does research, I don't know if Klocek is actually an acupuncturist or just an enthusiastic supporter of acupuncture. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:49, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
DVMt also stated on his talk page that he isn't an acupuncturist, but just has an interest in acupuncture. But, coming back to the checkuser issue, if DVMt agrees, it should be performed in order to clear his name. I have stated above why I suspected there was sockpuppetry going on, I might be wrong, but I was sincere in suspecting that it was going on. DVMt cannot deny that he got blocked due to the application of WP:Duck, whether it was a false positive or not. Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:45, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
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