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This seems like a case of WP:CRYSTAL for a game and film project that never came to anything. But I could be wrong, needs looking at by peoplewho know the sector SpinningSpark 01:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Keep - I agree that's what it looks like, but I think the article just needs to be updated. The game has recently completed the alpha cycle (http://andriasang.com/con261/ni_oh_alpha/), so it shouldn't be much longer. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 02:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- The article has been updated to reflect the current state of development. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 22:04, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:04, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:27, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- Weak keep.
Its IGN and Kotaku refs are not RS (WP:VG/RL) but I agree that a better effort can be made.There is a line that should be removed/clarified to avoid speculation (per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:VGSCOPE #8) but otherwise it handles the concerns of its last AfD sufficiently. It's a stub. And since it's in development/near release (or sourced as such) and created by well-established dev/pub Team Ninja and Tecmo Koei, it's worth keeping for its notability. czar · · 20:33, 19 October 2012 (UTC)- I'm not sure why you're linking to the reference library (archives of gaming magazines); perhaps you intended Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Video games/Sources? Both are listed as reliable sources for WPVG. I'm not sure what sentence/material you're referring to, but if you leave a comment on the talk page I'll try to address it. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 03:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, you're right—I confused the two and meant /S. I've struck the area. I still don't think the news blurbs (RS) alone grant the article notability, but the project is notable based off of its creators. If it failed WP:CRYSTAL, it doesn't anymore. czar · · 20:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Gotcha, I think that's a fair statement. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 22:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, you're right—I confused the two and meant /S. I've struck the area. I still don't think the news blurbs (RS) alone grant the article notability, but the project is notable based off of its creators. If it failed WP:CRYSTAL, it doesn't anymore. czar · · 20:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why you're linking to the reference library (archives of gaming magazines); perhaps you intended Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Video games/Sources? Both are listed as reliable sources for WPVG. I'm not sure what sentence/material you're referring to, but if you leave a comment on the talk page I'll try to address it. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 03:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 22:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Note - I've added another AfD above, the original article was deleted twice through AFD (and rightly so), and recreated three times against policy. The old text may also have been a copyvio. The version that is currently at that location shares none of the text of the original version, being rewritten from scratch. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 22:17, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Keep - There's enough coverage in third party reliable sources to meet the WP:GNG, and enough content to establish a pretty good Dev section. It's been officially announced, has a name, and in the alpha stages; I see no valid reason to apply CRYSTAL here. Sergecross73 msg me 00:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Delete - If the release date is unknown this is a case of CRYSTAL BALL. 1.112.77.29 (talk) 07:40, 22 October 2012 (UTC)— 1.112.77.29 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Note, the WP:SPA appears to exist solely to vote "delete" in almost all the Japan-related AfDs. If this was a non-notable/unconfirmed aspect of a specific franchise (Godzilla (2012 film project)) I would favour a merge, but as it is there are enough sources for an independent article on this game. elvenscout742 (talk) 06:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)