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User:Timeshift9 user page deletion kerfuffle

Misplaced Pages:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Timeshift9 --Surturz (talk) 00:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Gosh, I can't believe they deleted Timeshift's page! And before I got to read it too... WP's starting to look like a totalitarian state! Donama (talk) 23:48, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Not "they" - User:Timotheus_Canens deleted it. It was an admin action, not a consensus delete. Shifty's edit history abruptly stops after the user page deletion, surprise surprise. His admin review page is at Misplaced Pages:Administrator_review/Timotheus_Canens if you would like to provide feedback. --Surturz (talk) 01:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Deletion_review/Log/2011_June_5#User:Timeshift9 --Surturz (talk) 13:34, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Round 2

User_talk:Timeshift9#Your_userpage_2 --Surturz (talk) 10:11, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Katter's Australian Party

What colour shall we use? It's colour is red, but that obviously clashes with Labor. Jmount (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:43, 5 June 2011 (UTC).

He says his party "would unashamedly represent agriculture", so how about a rich brown for the soil? HiLo48 (talk) 08:07, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Its website is very red, for some reason. Nick-D (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

British Empire red maybe? HiLo48 (talk) 11:49, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Also my understanding is that Katter's Australian Party has not yet been registered by the AEC. The application has been lodged, but it hasn't yet been formally approved. Thus Katter remains an Independent. Jmount (talk) 22:00, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Opinions requested

I would appreciate the opinions of others on these edits. --AussieLegend (talk) 05:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

The Harry Jenkins edit is WP:OR as it stands, but there is a better ref: here --Surturz (talk) 07:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

UAP and Country coalition arrangements in 1931 and 1934

The articles Australian federal election, 1931 and Australian federal election, 1934 say that the UAP and Country Party were "coalition partner", and add the number of seats together for the result. However, I read yesterday (4 July 2011) in Crikey, in an article by Mark Latham criticising Gerard Henderson, that this may not have been the case. Latham cites an exchange between Michael Kroger and Anne Henderson (Gerard's wife) in which Henderson disputes Kroger's claim that Malcolm Fraser's 55 seat majority in the 1975 election was the "biggest majority in the House of Representatives":

In numbers of seats (Kroger’s statement) cannot be disputed. However, if changes in the number of seats in the House of Representatives over time is taken into account, the record for the greatest House of Representatives win must go to Joseph Lyons, the conservative leader at the 1931 election. In this landslide victory, for what was then a coalition of non-Labor parties known as the United Australia Party, the Country Party and the South Australian Emergency Committee, the Lyons government held 74.6 per cent of the House of Representatives seats after the 1931 election. Malcolm Fraser’s Liberal Party/Country Party Coalition did well in 1975, but not so well as Lyons, holding 71.6 per cent of seats after the federal election.

Kroger replied, citing Country leader Earle Page's autobiography, that the UAP and Country parties were not in coalition until 9 November 1934, after the 1934 election, and that the Country Party's position was to offer "general support to the Government"(presumably "supply and confidence"):

The Country Party was not part of a coalition with the UAP at the 1931 election. Its position was to offer “general support to the Government”, according to the autobiography of Earle Page, the then leader of the Country Party. Page refused a ministry after that election and his party wasn’t part of the Lyons government. Accordingly, it’s incorrect to include their 16 seats with the UAP’s 34 and the South Australian Emergency Committee’s six (total 56 of 75 seats) in the 74.6 per cent claimed by Henderson. The Country Party joined the UAP in government after the election held on September 15, 1934 by an announcement made on November 9 that year.

I haven't edited these articles, as I would like to corroborate this coalition arrangement (or lack thereof) with other references other than Crikey, Latham and Kroger. Just mentioning it so that others can keep an eye out for material and sources. --Canley (talk) 02:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

From what I can see there's a lot of confusion on this and several of the election pages have a tendency to blindly present the Coalition as existing without checking if it was actually operating at that particular election. The main article on the Coalition could do with a decent history section that covers the on & off nature of the beast. Timrollpickering (talk) 08:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

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