Misplaced Pages

User talk:Fru1tbat

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 129.49.72.78 (talk) at 19:07, 29 April 2011 (modest barnstar). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 19:07, 29 April 2011 by 129.49.72.78 (talk) (modest barnstar)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)
Welcome to Fru1tbat's talk page.
  • Please post your new topic at the bottom of this page.
  • Please sign and date your entry by inserting "~~~~" at the end.
  • Please use a new ==Descriptive heading== for new topics.
  • Please indent your posts with ":" if replying to an existing topic (or "::" if replying to a reply).
  • I will generally respond here to comments that are posted here, rather replying via your Talk page (or the article Talk page, if you are writing to me here about an article), so you may want to Watch this page until you are responded to.

⇒ Start a new Talk topic.
Archiving icon
Archives

/Archive 1 (2006)
/Archive 2 (2007)


Re: Area 51 revert

Yeah, you're right about that. ummm... I kind of panicked and started reverting edits that weren't vandalism because for some reason I thought the new user's contributions page was the contributions page for this one guy who kept replacing pages with "AAA CCC AAA LLL AAA MMM AAA RRR III !!!!!!!" or something like that very quickly. (User:Acalamari had just reverted a previous edit of his) Anyway, I started hitting rollback like as fast as I could and only realized what I was doing after I did about 15-20 edits. So, I went back and fixed them all. For some reason, I read the diff page incorrectly on the page in question and thought that the vandal on Area 51 was actually reverting the vandalism instead of causing it. (in that case, I would have been reverting the revert, which, ironically I suppose, was what I ended up doing.) So anyway, I hope that explains what was going on for you and sorry about that. Regards. Thingg 21:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: FauxMan

I would have to agree with you that he does appear to be interested in defaming those particular organizations, but as he has not made an edit since two days ago, imho, it would not be appropriate to report him. If he starts vandalizing again, then it would be ok to report him to WP:AIV, but until that happens, I would not take any action. Thingg 17:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of SMV (band)

A tag has been placed on SMV (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. LegoTech·(t)·(c) 02:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Thunder (SMV album)

I have nominated Thunder (SMV album), an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Thunder (SMV album). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? LegoTech·(t)·(c) 05:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

SMV (band)

What it comes down to is that each project must stand on it's own...Notability is not inherited. If the band's members are notable then there will be articles written about the band and then the article can be recreated at that time...but it doesn't qualify yet. Sorry! LegoTech·(t)·(c) 13:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your edits to Council Rock High School North

I noticed your recent edits regarding the marching band. While I think information on the band is valuable to the article, it needs to be done in a non-POV manner, i.e. citing accomplishments, awards, etc, rather than general statements about how popular/renowned the band is that would appear to outside readers to be local bias. I didn't want to just revert the edits, in case you want to attempt to rewrite it, but I think something needs to be done. Let me know if you have any questions. --Fru1tbat (talk) 13:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

could you help me with it. its absolutely vital that its kept in about the band. they've never received anything lower than a superior rating and they sweep captions including best drum major, best music, best marching and best color guard all the time. they participate in 5-6 different competitions every year and also 2-3 parades. the info about the drum major needs to be kept in also. Could you make the changes so I could see what I can do in the future? Manchester.united69 (talk) 19:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll take a look when I have some time (extremely busy IRL right now). I haven't been able to find much information on the band's history or competition results, though. Any websites that you know? --Fru1tbat (talk) 21:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Lifehouse article punctuation

Thanks for giving me the reason and the link to the style guide. I appreciate it! --Mulder8281 (talk) 14:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Voltron edits

WP:Burden I have taken a literal attitude to wikipedia's guidelines, the article is still confusing and needs cleanup but at least it has credible and reliable sources to back up some of the statements. You are welcome to put back the edits you feel are appropriate.

Dwanyewest (talk) 23:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


Template:Jimboquote

Trafalgar House (company)

I accept everything you say in your first paragraph, and you are right. Given the variety of different on-screen presentations with varous browsers, and an author's (or editor's) inability to anticipate them all, the potential for messiness is high. But I suspect nevertheless that the actual incidence of it will be low - probably more prevalent with older machines and earlier or non-Microsoft browser versions. However, that is no excuse for me, because in fact I was well aware of these problems a few years back when I was heavily engaged in HTML work every day. It just slipped my mind recently.
It still leaves a bit of a problem, because uninterrupted prose in confined spaces like caption areas often yields ugly layouts and broken word groupings, which are an anathema to me. I really don't know the best answer.
Regarding the lead, I have a particular sensitivity here. The fact is that the whole of Trafalgar House is history, and painful history at that. I was thrown out on the second large wave of redundancies, and likewise the boss who threw me out - who followed on he third wave.
When I re-vamped this article in early November I placed the first section under the heading of "Introduction", and it remained there for many edits thereafter. Then along came someone called Ground Zero who dispensed with that heading - possibly wishing to adhere to a Misplaced Pages standard format. It was immediately clear that this first (headingless) section's content contained significant historical matter, and this had been emphasised by the removal of a section heading. It seemed not inappropriate to quickly detail the birth of the company under an "Introduction" section, but not so without that heading.
Hence the obvious requirement for a "History" heading. When I introduced that new heading, the most natural thing in the world, for me, was to have it right at the top - because everything in the article and about the company is history.
The trouble with cheeseparing edits on work that someone (like me) has spent many, many, hours and days constructing and illustrating is that they almost invariably surface in the evening, when tolerance is low - and they are always accompanied by the quick cure-all link "undo". Before I took any action I studied your user page, saw your admission that you don't feel sufficiently confident to conduct major edits, and therefore confine yourself to minor matters. Then I saw your proliferation of multicoloured banners seeking to convey to the world all aspects of your views on life.
The instinctive reaction was (rightly or wrongly) to feel that my long, hard work was being meddled with by a newcomer who even admits up front that he can't yet take the weight of serious and substantial contributions. SO, I press "undo". You must realise that it matters not whether I was right or wrong. What matters is how you come across. Your user page presentation does not help you in this respect. I also suspect that there is a substantial age difference; and while that of itself carries no intrinsic merit or demerit, it does not help mutual understanding.
My last word is on Misplaced Pages standard presentational format in its brodest sense. That concept cannot stand alongside the ever-present exhortation by Wiki to "be bold". And furthermore, it is clear that Misplaced Pages depends very heavily on creators like myself - rather than dabblers like yourself - and Wiki is therefore very careful to let it be known that what they offer to serious contributors is "guidance". I am happy to be guided, but not at the expense of creativity being stifled.
As far as I am concerned - have a free rein. Go back to your own edit, and either leave it as it was. or tweak it if you feel it needs tweaking. It all became history over ten years ago. --JHB (talk) 07:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Move-prot

I'm well aware of that thank you, If you check you'll see that the page protection was recently changed from semi-prot to semi-move. I simply was unaware that the move lock meant full prot and that there is not one for semi-move.--94.192.72.3 (talk) 18:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Forward pass

I note your editing of Forward pass and won't revert it. But, I disagree with the edit, as it has, in my opinion, weakened the sentence. This is a small matter but, since you went to the trouble to make the change, it must have been important to you. It was certainly not a "poor use" of an ellipsis. Misplaced Pages states that an ellipsis "can also be used to indicate a pause in speech," which is exactly why I wrote the original sentence in that way. If I were to tell the story to someone in person, I would tell it just the way I wrote it... that the game was officiated by one of the top officials in the country. His name was Stuffy Hackett. The person's name is secondary in importance to who the person was. In fact, Hackett's status as an expert is the whole point of including this section of the article. I would not say to someone, "the game was officiated by Stuffy Hackett, who was a top official." The most important thing was that the game was officiated by an authroity on football. The most important thing to communicate was not a guy's name that nobody knows and then, after giving the name, explaining to the listener (reader) why that name should mean anything to him. Given my preference to lead with Hackett's credentials rather than his name, a comma was not indicated and an ellipsis -- a pause in speech -- was exactly what I meant to employ. Thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Ruedetocqueville (talk) 02:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

" Quoted bold "

Is that a rule of long standing?
"Gunga Din" is not set up that way. Varlaam (talk) 19:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Noted, and fixed. :) It's been that way as long as I can remember. I should have referenced MOS:PUNCT instead, though, which states it a little more clearly. --Fru1tbat (talk) 00:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I have >50K edits, and I haven't noticed this before.
I would suspect, therefore, that there are plenty of poems, songs, and TV episodes in violation all over the place.
But I don't know how to run a search for irregularities of punctuation.
Varlaam (talk) 06:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure a bot could take care of it, if someone felt so inclined. I fix them when I notice them, especially if I'm making other edits, but sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference anyway, so I don't go out of my way. --Fru1tbat (talk) 12:54, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
It's true it's not the most conspicuous "problem". Ok, thanks for the info. Varlaam (talk) 18:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

MOSTM

See WP:MOSTM.

  • "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules"
  • "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words"

The brackets are not pronounced and are essentially a styling issue. Misplaced Pages does not lend undue weight to non-standard English usage, and so standard English rules apply. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

The Modest Barnstar
Thanks for your recent contributions! -129.49.72.78 (talk) 19:07, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
User talk:Fru1tbat Add topic