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Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Supreme Deliciousness

Xebulon

Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.

Request concerning Xebulon

User requesting enforcement

Tuscumbia (talk) 21:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

Xebulon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Sanction or remedy that this user violated

AA2, ethno-nationalistic battleground conduct

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

1. , the User Xebulon uses an extreme nationalistic and racist language to express his feelings on Azerbaijani editors such as Importantly, this casts doubt whether Misplaced Pages editors with Azerbaijani passports are fit to contribute to this encyclopedia. Keep this in mind and think twice when violating Wiki rules.
2. , please see incivil/disrespectful comments
3. , response to editor reporting him for violation of Wikiquette
4. , one of responses to an editor requesting him to use reliable sources
5. , a response to an admin placing tags in the article with POV reference to Azerbaijan
6. , another emotional response

Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)

1. Warning by Tuscumbia (talk · contribs)
2. Warning by Tuscumbia (talk · contribs)
3. Warning by Tuscumbia (talk · contribs)
4. Warning by Pol430 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
5. Warning by Ronz (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
6. Warning by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)

WP:block

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

For some time now, the user has been engaged in edit-warring but apart from that he makes impolite and disrespectful remarks (diffs provided above). The last one he did on Caucasian Albania talk page Importantly, this casts doubt whether Misplaced Pages editors with Azerbaijani passports are fit to contribute to this encyclopedia. Keep this in mind and think twice when violating Wiki rules is completely of racist nature and unacceptable. The user has been warned against his conduct a number of times on various boards including one on Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts but still continued to use inadequate language. Please take measures. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

The response from Xebulon below is just another emotional collection of paragraphs. "Poor English"? Really? Since when? Birth? You are not here to judge the "authoritarian and repressive" country, but to assume good faith and be respectful to your fellow editors. And, please don't be misquoting what I wrote. My statement was "I am saying they are naturally biased, not necessarily because they have written and continue to write in favor of Armenian version of history but because they dismiss any reference to anything good Turkish/Turkic" in response to User MarshallBagramyan who dismissed and discredited Azerbaijani authors putting Armenian ones higher as if they were credible because their works were published in US. Authors of both Armenian and Azerbaijani heritage are likely to be biased no matter what. It's only natural, Hewsen being one of them.

Yes, you are trying to invent history here. Google Shusha and you'll see when it was founded. And yes, I have been topic banned but continued to edit and create many other articles. So what? Your account as well as accounts of several other users have been reported for edit-warring and in an SPI cases (, ) because these accounts were started at times when major puppeteers have been blocked and the new emerging accounts seemed to be quite professional in Wiki-editing and were a part of a coordinated effort. Reviewing one of the last cases on Meowy is good enough. Some accounts are related, some have the same behavioral patterns. Some of Meowy's and Andranikpasha's SPIs I filed were successful because the admins found the accounts were socks. Find me one substantial evidence where I have not assumed good faith. Tuscumbia (talk) 15:42, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Ashot that notice was placed on Wikiquette alerts due to your comment here in reference to an editor. Tuscumbia (talk) 15:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Xebulon, not sure what you mean by The misspelled word "invent" suggests that User:Tuscumbia undoes the good edits frivolously and mindlessly, simply by "driving-by." below. It's just a misspelled word and your argument does not make any sense. By the same token, are you are here by "driving-by" as well? Anyhow, I understand you're trying to evade the subject of this report by these additions , , , , , to the report, but please take a look at why this report originated. If you need to file a report against me with all those accusations, please feel free to start a new one. This report is related to your ethno-nationalistic battleground conduct. Thank you. Tuscumbia (talk) 16:56, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

There is no "ethno-nationalistic battleground conduct." Some people may hold a hypothesis that Azerbaijani citizens are encouraged by their government to advance POV views and spread these views in forums like Misplaced Pages. Foreign governments where the Internet is censored, like in Azerbaijan, may induce Misplaced Pages editors to behave in a certain way. See here how China does that: .

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Discussion concerning Xebulon

Statement by Xebulon

User:Tuscumbia is an abusive account that apparently found a new way of edit warring: reporting his opponents to administrators by falsely accusing them of transgressions that he himself was accused of several times recently. His usual mode of operations include making frivolous and untrue accusations against his opponents , and then showcasing these false warnings as a record of purportedly improper conduct. Because of his poor English, User:Tuscumbia does not understand the flow of discussion, and unreasonably considers some remarks as offensive.

Most of what User:Tuscumbia does in Misplaced Pages can be qualified as Misplaced Pages:Tendentious editing, and his most common pattern of disruptive behavior is Refusal to "get the point" as described here in the Rules ]. User:Tuscumbia is constantly enveloped in perpetuated disputes by sticking to an unsupportable allegation (see here: and here ). This irritates good-faith editors, provoking them to engage in controversial conduct. Another characteristic of User:Tuscumbia is Misplaced Pages:WikiBullying; this also raises the heat in a debate and provokes good-faith editors.

I commented on a well-known fact that Azerbaijan is an authoritarian and repressive country as categorized by Freedom House, Amnesty International and Transparency International. Azerbaijani state limits public access to the Internet (see former President Clinton’s remarks here: , and its leadership made public statements inviting its citizens to attack Armenians in public Internet-based forums. My remark is not incivility or ethno-nationalistic battleground conduct. However, I regret if it may have sounded that way. In China, which manages and often directs Misplaced Pages involvement of its citizens, state agents modified an article on a Nigerian poet, see here: . Disturbed by POV-pushing tactics by User:Tuscumbia, I just hypothesized that a similar situation may be in play here too since Azerbaijan evidently censors Misplaced Pages as well.

Despite this, User:Tuscumbia himself makes offensive, ethnically-motivated attacks on his opponents. Talking about Misplaced Pages editors and Armenian authors, User:Tuscumbia says here : “I am saying they are naturally biased.” Here he says: “And, please, for the love of God, don't refer to Hewsen. Why would he ever write anything in favor of Azerbaijan, Baku or Azerbaijanis considering the fact that he's of Armenian heritage and quite possibly biased.” User:Tuscumbia attacks reputed academics for their alleged (and unconfirmed, by the way) Armenian identity. This is a typical ethno-nationalistic battleground conduct.

User:Tuscumbia continuously removes well-sourced, good-faith edits (here: ), complementing his acts of vandalism with such uncivil remarks: “what exactly are trying to ionvent?” (see here: ). The misspelled word "invent" suggests that User:Tuscumbia undoes the good edits frivolously and mindlessly, simply by "driving-by."

User:Tuscumbia was blocked here , as early as in March 2010. Here, despite the warning, User:Tuscumbia continued edit warring and was warned more severely here . Shortly thereafter he was topic-banned to edit article on Armenia and Azerbaijan for as many as three months here . Then, User:Tuscumbia when emerged from this ban, went back to his habit of edit warring and blunt refusal to engage in civilized dialogue when invited to do so. User:Tuscumbia’s most widespread type of abuse are unreferenced reverts that he fails to address on talk pages. Here are the examples. When asked in discussions to present evidence from external sources or from stable Misplaced Pages articles, User:Tuscumbia evades dialogue .

The most recent notice of sanctions filed against User:Tuscumbia by a Misplaced Pages administrator accuses him of refusal to assume good faith (here ), after which User:Tuscumbia engaged in a meaningless refutation of his misdeeds. This is not the first time User:Tuscumbia engages in false attacks on his opponents . Not surprising, this and that frivolous reports were both dismissed. However, he then makes yet another frivolous request against me, here: , which was likewise naturally dismissed.

I suggest to block User:Tuscumbia for a serial lack of compliance with "Assuming Good Faith" requirement since it is evident that he allocates a good portion of his time to frivolously attacking other users. Xebulon (talk) 15:26, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Dear Sandstein, please reconsider your intention of temporary ban. As I noted above, I regret succumbing to Tuscumbia's provocative conduct, and promise to be extra vigilant as to the letter and spirit of Wiki regulations. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Xebulon (talk) 00:45, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments by others about the request concerning Xebulon

• Note: I have a personal experience of noticeboard misuse by User:Tuscumbia. See (my last comment regarding his report on me and the whole discussion above). -- Ashot  15:26, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Tuscumbia routinely violates Misplaced Pages:Harassment by making editing Misplaced Pages unpleasant for the targets of his attacks; he tries to undermine them, to frighten them, or to discourage them from editing entirely. Xebulon (talk) 16:23, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Result concerning Xebulon

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.

• Waiting for statement by Xebulon.  Sandstein  08:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

• Xebulon: Your statement is mostly beside the point per WP:NOTTHEM. This is about you, not others. is an unacceptable personal attack, as is much of your commentary about Tuscumbia above, and , "this casts doubt whether Misplaced Pages editors with Azerbaijani passports are fit to contribute to this encyclopedia", is far beyond the pale of acceptable conduct.

  Tuscumbia: Your comments at , "Armenian authors ... are naturally biased ... because they dismiss any reference to anything good Turkish/Turkic", and at , "Why would he ever write anything in favor of Azerbaijan, Baku or Azerbaijanis considering the fact that he's of Armenian heritage and quite possibly biased", are likewise unacceptable.

  Both: Entering into conflicts about either editors or sources on the basis of any ethnic, national or other background, rather than on the basis of their individual reliability or the strength of their arguments, is entirely at odds with WP:NPOV and WP:NOT#BATTLE, as well as strongly morally objectionable, and is exactly the sort of misconduct that this remedy was intended to prevent. Therefore, if no administrator objects, I intend to ban Xebulon for three months and Tuscumbia for six months from editing the topic. Tuscumbia's ban is set to be longer because he has already been subject to a three months ban in 2010 for similar misconduct.  Sandstein  00:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• Xebulon: You clearly cannot collaborate effectively on articles within this subject area. Your topic ban will allow you to put your editing abilities to good use on articles that are not as heated. I second Sandstein's proposed action. AGK 01:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
• Sandstein's proposed sanctions sound reasonable to me. T. Canens (talk) 07:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
• OK. In enforcement and application of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2#Amended Remedies and Enforcement, therefore, Xebulon (talk · contribs) and Tuscumbia (talk · contribs) are topic-banned from Armenia and Azerbaijan, including notably any conflicts with other countries or peoples, as defined at WP:TBAN. Tuscumbia's ban lasts for six months and Xebulon's ban lasts for three months.  Sandstein  10:51, 26 January 2011 (UTC)