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Feedback concerning language use
Please show other editors the basic courtesy of communicating with them in English. Txt speak and simplified spelling are not appropriate on Misplaced Pages; this applies to talk pages , user talk pages and edit summaries , all of which are means to communicate with others, not ways to express our own individuality. Communicating in a way that excludes people who don't understand the abbreviations is counterproductive, and especially on article talk pages but also user talk pages, you can't know that all the people who will need to read and follow the conversation are fluent in txtspeak, or capable of interpreting, say, "wut" as "what". Your other contributions show that you are obviously capable of using standard English. It would be courteous if you would stick to that variety everywhere on Misplaced Pages - the only possible exception might be if you are conversing with somebody who has said explicitly that they think it's acceptable, on their talk page or yours, but it might not be OK even then. Thank you very much! --bonadea contributions talk 12:12, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- OOOOPS wut did i do this time.... i will try not to do that so much, but that's how i like to talk (becos it is how we talk where i am from), but I can talk normal if i have to. thx.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 12:14, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- on a side note, one time i travel to all the foreign countries where they speak english and even the people who do not speak english very well they know all the text speak and when they send me I.M. "wat do u want" instead of "What do you want?" becos they are cool. this does not matter very much, but it is interesting, in my opinions. It means that everybody likes to talk to that, and they love it.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 12:17, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- I understand that you talk like that, but could you really try using regular English? I wouldn't say there's something horribly wrong with using text speak, but it gives other users the impression that you don't take things seriously (which I know you do). Once you type in normal English, I believe a lot of users would be more understanding. Remember, how you say something is much more important than what you say. Your intentions are good, so let's let everyone know that - and not let your typing stand in the way. So, can we start using normal English now? =P Netalarm 04:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I was doing a lot of edits this morning, and I USED PROPER ENGLISH THE WHOLE TIME :-D. But now i want to talk with some bad grammar and slang and things like this becos it is very hard to talk in proper english without a break sometimes, but i will only talk in slang on my user page and maybe in some edit summary later today. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. i hope u review my contributions and u see all the good english that i said.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 11:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome =D Netalarm 12:48, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- U r a very nice MAN or LADY!!!!!!!!--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 12:49, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome =D Netalarm 12:48, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I was doing a lot of edits this morning, and I USED PROPER ENGLISH THE WHOLE TIME :-D. But now i want to talk with some bad grammar and slang and things like this becos it is very hard to talk in proper english without a break sometimes, but i will only talk in slang on my user page and maybe in some edit summary later today. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. i hope u review my contributions and u see all the good english that i said.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 11:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I understand that you talk like that, but could you really try using regular English? I wouldn't say there's something horribly wrong with using text speak, but it gives other users the impression that you don't take things seriously (which I know you do). Once you type in normal English, I believe a lot of users would be more understanding. Remember, how you say something is much more important than what you say. Your intentions are good, so let's let everyone know that - and not let your typing stand in the way. So, can we start using normal English now? =P Netalarm 04:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
You're a good contributor no doubt about that, I mean your anti-vandal work is just exemplary and like many others I thank you for your hard work and dedication in making Misplaced Pages a better place for us all. In regards to your use of colloquialisms and slang, I don't particularly understand how typing in real English without a break is hard, maybe that's just me. Your restricting the use of slang and text speak to your talk page is appreciated.
I hope this isn't insulting to you in anyway and if it is I apologise forthwith, keep up the good work, happy editing and warm regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 2:59pm • 04:59, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- No u did not insult Bad edits r dumb. Sometimes i just like to talk like a silly man and i dont want to be proper but by the same tokens i understand that if i edit the encylopedia i should communicate clearly and professionally and not like a dumb guy, so to that end i will try not to use to much bad grammar except on my talk page, with maybe a few exceptions here and there.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 05:10, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:Bad edits r dumb/barnstars and award and things of this nature
User:Bad edits r dumb/barnstars and award and things of this nature, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Bad edits r dumb/barnstars and award and things of this nature and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Bad edits r dumb/barnstars and award and things of this nature during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. MJ94 (talk) 17:45, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- The discussion at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Bad edits r dumb/barnstars and award and things of this nature is complete, with a consensus reached as "keep" (including my vote). Just figured you should know. Best, ROBERTMFROMLI /CNTRB 21:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
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Okay, I've seen your edit to Bonadea's talkpage. You've shown you're capable of using normal language. Please do so from now on. DS (talk) 17:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- i understand why u say wut u say (because we try to look like a professional encylcopedia and things like this), but i am doing a better job and i always use the warning templates and i try to not use slang when i talk to new user. i can talk in proper english, but if i do it ALL THE TIME it is very hard and mostly i like to use a bit of internet slang on my own talk page and when i talk to ppl i know. also i would never put slang in the articles.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 18:29, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- That is not the point. You are are now demonstrating full and willful disregard for complying with policies AND with norms of contributing constructively to Misplaced Pages. This is an encyclopedia, not your playground or research laboratory. Your behavior can be defined as nothing other than disruptive. Thorncrag 19:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think my edits r very good but you are welcome to disagree.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:54, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- Your responses are heading you toward another block. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- pls do nor threaten bad Edits r dumb. I have been working hard to do my recent changes patrolling. Since I have been blocked my work fighting bad edits had been VERY GOOD and I incorporate a lot of feedback I receive. U ppl won't leave me alone and u make the situation WORSE.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 22:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- That was not a threat. You are continuing to provoke other editors after you promised to stop. Arguing with textspeak is only making your situation worse. Friendly warning, not a threat. ~Amatulić (talk) 04:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- pls do nor threaten bad Edits r dumb. I have been working hard to do my recent changes patrolling. Since I have been blocked my work fighting bad edits had been VERY GOOD and I incorporate a lot of feedback I receive. U ppl won't leave me alone and u make the situation WORSE.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 22:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- Your responses are heading you toward another block. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think my edits r very good but you are welcome to disagree.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:54, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- That is not the point. You are are now demonstrating full and willful disregard for complying with policies AND with norms of contributing constructively to Misplaced Pages. This is an encyclopedia, not your playground or research laboratory. Your behavior can be defined as nothing other than disruptive. Thorncrag 19:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- i understand why u say wut u say (because we try to look like a professional encylcopedia and things like this), but i am doing a better job and i always use the warning templates and i try to not use slang when i talk to new user. i can talk in proper english, but if i do it ALL THE TIME it is very hard and mostly i like to use a bit of internet slang on my own talk page and when i talk to ppl i know. also i would never put slang in the articles.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 18:29, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
ANI Notice.
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Thorncrag 22:01, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- it look like you spend very much time gathering all this evidence about bad edits r dumb (in other words, ME). I think u should mAybe do something fun like watch a football game instead (American football game OR soccer). But if this is how u like to spen ur time on sunday my hats off to u. I hope that you are satisfy with the result of the communities finding and I wish u ALL THE BEST. :-)--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 22:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu
Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Antya 3.255
e-vanyāya ye nā bhāse, sei jīva chāra koṭi-kalpe kabhu tāra nāhika nistāra SYNONYMS
e-vanyāya — in this inundation; ye — anyone who; nā bhāse — does not float; sei — that; jīva — living entity; chāra — most condemned; koṭi-kalpe — in millions of kalpas; kabhu — at any time; tāra — his; nāhika — there is not; nistāra — deliverance. TRANSLATION
"Anyone who does not float in this inundation is most condemned. Such a person cannot be delivered for millions of kalpas. PURPORT
The kalpa is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā (8.17): sahasra-yuga-paryantam ahar yad brahmaṇo viduḥ. One day of Brahmā is called a kalpa. A yuga, or mahā-yuga, consists of 4,320,000 years, and one thousand such mahā-yugas constitute one kalpa. The author of Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta says that if one does not take advantage of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, he cannot be delivered for millions of such kalpas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 07:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Shri Chaitanya-mangala
‘chaitanya-mangala’ shune yadi pashandi, yavana seha maha-vaishnava haya tatakshana
If even a great atheist hears Shri Chaitanya-mangala (previous name for Shri Chaitanya-bhagavata), he immediately becomes a great devotee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, Mr. Wikigeek108. I am not 100% sure of the things you just said, but it appears you have put some sort of curse on me, but I hope this is not the case, because I do not wish to be cursed. I just removed an external link that you added to the Vegetarian article and I tried to warn you about why the link was inappropriate, but it looks like you did not like my warning. I hope you are not too upset with Bad edits r dumb (ME). :-(--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 07:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, no, it is not a curse, it is state of my mind. I feel very sad that people are going to hell and continuing to maintain so many slaughterhouses. And even if they are told that this is a gateway to hell - they insist that that kind of information is spam. is that logical? "spam" means meat. So we are against both meat and spam. But why people on this wikipedia are so much antireligious? I face it very often. I guess it is because of this Jimbo who said that he is "complete nonbeliever" so wikipedia is not a good source of info. So anyway when I have time I still try to make it better and face countless people like you. Anyway, no curse: you can read Caitanya Mangala and avoid any consequences of being antivegaterian. You are lucky, man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- "I tried to warn you about why the link was inappropriate, but it looks like you did not like my warning" Problem is that we are so big rascals, that we do not hear good advices. We are for millions of lifetimes are against God, so that we do not think whatever we do - either it is favorable or not. Problem is that there are always class of men who are against chanting holy names of Krishna(Hari,Vishnu,Rama...). But we face this everytime. World is facing death every moment. What can we do to save them? Even food is not enough. Suppose one has food but dies without Krishna consciousness - that is not good. But if we give him Krishna consciousness - then it is ok. So I am not disturbed that you remove my links. I do not have anything aginst you. But keep in mund - there are devotees who are much more confident servants of Krishna than me, so take care and do not offend them. Offense to devotee is a dangerous thing, but devotees are so merciful that they do not consider such offenses seriously, but on other hand, offenders have to suffer consequences. Well, I do not want to pose a some great devotee artificially, so you can relax. Just forget such thing, but take care of portals related with religion, vegetarianism, phychology, philosophy (especially religious) - so that you do not offend anyone there. Be careful. Human life is very rare. Only after so many lifetimes one gets it. So do not misuse against religion, vegetarianism etc. Otherwise you risk a lot... Hare Krishna. Yes, say Hare Krishna without offence and I'll leave you alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, no, it is not a curse, it is state of my mind. I feel very sad that people are going to hell and continuing to maintain so many slaughterhouses. And even if they are told that this is a gateway to hell - they insist that that kind of information is spam. is that logical? "spam" means meat. So we are against both meat and spam. But why people on this wikipedia are so much antireligious? I face it very often. I guess it is because of this Jimbo who said that he is "complete nonbeliever" so wikipedia is not a good source of info. So anyway when I have time I still try to make it better and face countless people like you. Anyway, no curse: you can read Caitanya Mangala and avoid any consequences of being antivegaterian. You are lucky, man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, Mr. Wikigeek108. I am not 100% sure of the things you just said, but it appears you have put some sort of curse on me, but I hope this is not the case, because I do not wish to be cursed. I just removed an external link that you added to the Vegetarian article and I tried to warn you about why the link was inappropriate, but it looks like you did not like my warning. I hope you are not too upset with Bad edits r dumb (ME). :-(--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 07:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
rot in hell for as many thousands of years as there are for each hair on the body of every cow they eat
Cows represent sacred acts themselves and without cows there can be no performance of any sacred act. This is the pure, sublime and supremely exalted position and pre-eminence of cows above all creatures in all the worlds. One who knows the pre-eminence of cows and the selfless service cows render to all creatures and does not protect them affectionately is a sinner and offender and their destination is certainly hell. Cows are equal to the rays of the sun that travel through the universe giving light, warmth and nourishment.
Those who fail to give cows reverence and protection and choose to foolishly oppose and whimsically ignore the injunctions of the Vedic scriptures by selling a cow for slaughter, by killing a cow, by eating cows flesh and by permittings the slaughter of cows will all rot in the darkest regions of hell for as many thousands of years as there are hairs on the body of each cow slain. There is no atonement for the killing of a cow.
In Sri Caitanya Caritamrita adi lila, chapter 17 verse 166 Caitanya Mahaprabhu confirms:
go-ange yata loma tata sahasra vatsara
go-vadhi raurava-madhye pace nirantar
Cow killers and cow eaters are condemned to rot in hell for as many thousands of years as there are for each hair on the body of every cow they eat from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 07:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK I will become vegetarian, because I do not wish to rot in hell and I will try to repent and things like this.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 07:34, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- yes, but only being vegetarian is not enough. This is only a good karma., One must also become devotee of Vishnu(Krishna, Caitanya and of His devotees) - Krishna conscious. Because Krishna do not accept non-veg food - we never offer meats to him. Especially from cows... Hm, Krishna's favorite animal is cow. And His planet is planet of cows - Goloka, Go - means cow, loka means planet. So it is nonsense to say that God can accept meat. But we that even christians do not follow "do not kill", "flesh and blood do not consume" etc. Anyway, buddhists or other religion - they may accept God, reincarnation, karma, but Vedas seem to have all that in perfection. Thought,. I myself still have to believe this strongly. So, lactovegetarian food is offered to Krishna, and then it is transcendental, so it creates no karma (neither of goodness or worse). Because even if one goes to highest planet of material universe and live there for millions of year, he would have to reincarnate. So buddhists are vegetarians, but they reject Buddha/God. But Buddha is avatara of Vishnu. So anyway we do not reject other religions: christians, muslims. Jesus, Mohammad are also considered to be shaktyavesha-avataras - empowered to preach God consciousness over the world. Anyway, take care, wikipedia is a dangerous thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 07:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your advice. I will try to bolster my Krishna consciousness in the future! :-D --Bad edits r dumb (talk) 07:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, by the way, I forgot one thing. Even in hell, Yamaraja, who is demigod of death - he is also a devotee of Vishnu(Krishna-Caitanya). So that is my hope. And I think thus we shouldn't be afraid of hell. But of course in other sense. As it is said that devotee would better go to hell than take spiritual suicide of impersonalism.
- Thank you for your advice. I will try to bolster my Krishna consciousness in the future! :-D --Bad edits r dumb (talk) 07:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- yes, but only being vegetarian is not enough. This is only a good karma., One must also become devotee of Vishnu(Krishna, Caitanya and of His devotees) - Krishna conscious. Because Krishna do not accept non-veg food - we never offer meats to him. Especially from cows... Hm, Krishna's favorite animal is cow. And His planet is planet of cows - Goloka, Go - means cow, loka means planet. So it is nonsense to say that God can accept meat. But we that even christians do not follow "do not kill", "flesh and blood do not consume" etc. Anyway, buddhists or other religion - they may accept God, reincarnation, karma, but Vedas seem to have all that in perfection. Thought,. I myself still have to believe this strongly. So, lactovegetarian food is offered to Krishna, and then it is transcendental, so it creates no karma (neither of goodness or worse). Because even if one goes to highest planet of material universe and live there for millions of year, he would have to reincarnate. So buddhists are vegetarians, but they reject Buddha/God. But Buddha is avatara of Vishnu. So anyway we do not reject other religions: christians, muslims. Jesus, Mohammad are also considered to be shaktyavesha-avataras - empowered to preach God consciousness over the world. Anyway, take care, wikipedia is a dangerous thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 07:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
P.S. Those words are not mine about Caitanya Mangala (Bhagavata), I just quoted but without quote signs. I know it is bad style. And probably I shouldn't immediately write such things to one who removes my edits... But can you imagine my state of mind when I read that "one who doesn't take to Krsna consciousness is most condemned"??? So I do not know. It means that there are so many people all around who are condemned... Suppose they even destroy Krsna-consciousness temples (see Kazakhstan site: ) And you are editor. Just see: there are others who also feel that they are blocked/banned from editing: and here ... You see? we are not allowed normally to edit. We are blocked even by Indians/'hindus'... So this is problem.. It makes me feel sad. Many people simply would get bad birth after this life thus... What can we do??? tell me...
- "I will try to bolster my Krishna consciousness in the future! " Sorry, are you Krishna-consious already? Anyway, I'm sorry for my 'disruptive editing' to vegetarian article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- No, unfortunately I am not very Krishna conscious, but I have encountered many followers of Hinduism and the Hare Krishna faith in my travels, and I have admiration for their beliefs. And I know you were not being intentionally disruptive by adding the external links (but if I had not removed them, someone else would have).--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 08:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- "I will try to bolster my Krishna consciousness in the future! " Sorry, are you Krishna-consious already? Anyway, I'm sorry for my 'disruptive editing' to vegetarian article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
If you are not against and for..
You amy also see this site: it is anti-defamation organization for Krishna consciousness. It maybe written somewhat emotionally and with sometimes rude speech, but if that is true... I mean that it is bad and I do not want to be like those bogus people mentioned in blacklist (if they are bogus?): But even this organization is considered somewhat not authority: Avoid the Bogus Krishna Cults So it is all spoken in terms like demons, hell. So sorry for my speech to you also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 08:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Wow! This is too much for my understanding. I don't know which Krishna groups are authentic and which ones are "bogus" but I do know that I have admiration for their peaceful beliefs. And I forgive you for damning me to hell earlier on this page; you were understandably upset.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 08:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Vedic cosmology - planetarium you may like this —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigeek108 (talk • contribs) 08:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Wow! This is too much for my understanding. I don't know which Krishna groups are authentic and which ones are "bogus" but I do know that I have admiration for their peaceful beliefs. And I forgive you for damning me to hell earlier on this page; you were understandably upset.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 08:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Propriety of username
Have you considered the bitey-ness factor of interacting with new users, warning them for their edits and new articles, whilst using a username like "Bad edits r dumb" ?
Could you consider adopting a more suitable moniker? You may visit WP:CHU to request a change. –xeno 18:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- i did not consider this type of thing but i do not want anyone to feel bad and think that i am calling them dumb (when really just their edits are dumb). i really really really like my name, but if it is offensive, maybe i will change it, but first i have to think of a REALLY GOOD name to change it to. so give me a few days and if i think of a better name i will consult with you and you can tell me if it is a BETTER name or a WORSE name or if it is JUST as bad as "Bad edits r dumb".--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 18:57, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- maybe i will change it to "Gud edits r cool" becos that is more POSITIVE and less NEGATIVE :-D--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 18:57, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- An improvement =) –xeno 19:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed, but it would probably be better in the long run if the username wasn't made in "textspeak". A pseudonym would be a good start as well. And, as a side note, when I started, I used to be named "Vandalism destroyer". ;) The Thing // Talk // Contribs 19:18, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- LOL was that seriously ur name or were you making a joke? That is a very silly user name, and I am glad u changed it :-D. I am currently brainstorming by myself to think of better user names. In all honesty (and i know this might disappoint some ppls) my new user name will probably have some slang or text speak in it but hopefully it will not be offensive or NEGATIVE.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, that really was my name when I initially registered. And, it could be said that I've lived up to that name, since I've been an active vandal-fighter for over 2 years straight. The Thing // Talk // Contribs 19:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- LOL was that seriously ur name or were you making a joke? That is a very silly user name, and I am glad u changed it :-D. I am currently brainstorming by myself to think of better user names. In all honesty (and i know this might disappoint some ppls) my new user name will probably have some slang or text speak in it but hopefully it will not be offensive or NEGATIVE.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just to confirm: I'm not at all concerned about the txtspk aspect. –xeno 19:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK thx, because some people are very hung up on this type of thing.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- At least his username isn't "bad edits r gay" or "retarded." Tommy! 21:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- LOL. Now THAT wuld be dumb!!! I think maybe wikipedia has filters and blacklists and things of this nature so you can't use swear words like gay and retarded in ur user name.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 21:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- You had that as a name, The Thing? Wow. Also, Good edits are cool seems good, so I hope you change it. Best of wishes, Buggie111 (talk) 22:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- LOL. Now THAT wuld be dumb!!! I think maybe wikipedia has filters and blacklists and things of this nature so you can't use swear words like gay and retarded in ur user name.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 21:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- At least his username isn't "bad edits r gay" or "retarded." Tommy! 21:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK thx, because some people are very hung up on this type of thing.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed, but it would probably be better in the long run if the username wasn't made in "textspeak". A pseudonym would be a good start as well. And, as a side note, when I started, I used to be named "Vandalism destroyer". ;) The Thing // Talk // Contribs 19:18, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- An improvement =) –xeno 19:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Are my past usernames really that unknown around here? :P And yeah, I started out... almost like you did, BErD. This is a good example here, as is this and this. A short while later I started using templates and the like, and somehow in one of my first uses, I apparently copied a signature from a bot. The Thing // Talk // Contribs 00:05, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Vandalism warnings
Re this: for the record, Merrytimes (talk · contribs) never edited my user page. He did vandalize my user talk page. Perhaps you just got the wrong target page in the warning. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 21:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- oh ya, that is wut i meant. I will fix the link.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 21:40, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Nice work!
Your willingness to help revert vandalism certainly belies your juvenile facade. In other words, even though you "speak" (albeit jokingly) in slang, you work professionally. I don't have a barnstar for that, unless you think you deserve the Surreal Barnstar, which doesn't quite fit you. Anyways, keep up the good work! new, improved Finalius! 01:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLIMENTS ABOUT BAD EDITS R DUMB!!!!!!!! I will continue to do this type of gud work so I will have a good reputations on Misplaced Pages and not a reputation for mischief and troll, and bad things like this.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 05:06, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Help?
(talk page stalker)This is not a request to be your mentor ( I already have one) but, my talk is always open. :D Good editing --intelati 06:21, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK thank you maybe if i need someone to talk to about Misplaced Pages type things i will ask you :-D.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 06:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- "things about Misplaced Pages?" :/--intelati 06:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes becos if i tell u about things that r not related to Misplaced Pages like my love life and my finances and things like this it is to much personal and not an appropriate use of talk page because wikipedia is not a chat site. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 06:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Duhhhhhh. :)--intelati 06:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes becos if i tell u about things that r not related to Misplaced Pages like my love life and my finances and things like this it is to much personal and not an appropriate use of talk page because wikipedia is not a chat site. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 06:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- "things about Misplaced Pages?" :/--intelati 06:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Division Bell
Thanks for the heads up, but the edit war wasn't due to me but to another editor's claim to ownership. I have now made my case on the talk page (but have always made it in edit summaries). Str1977 (an experienced editor) 08:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Okay sorry i should have seen that u r ALSO an experience editor. I am sorry I got involve but it looked like edit warring to me.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 11:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Advice
- Link to your old account. If your true intention was to return and edit quietly under a new user name then you have blown that chance.
- Rename the account and stop using this persona. Misplaced Pages is not a place for roleplaying games. You are capable of speaking in perfect English and not doing so now is distracting from writing the encyclopedia.
- Stop wasting the time of other volunteer editors with questions and comments such as the one you made to the Help desk. It is disrespectful of other volunteers. You are a longtime user and knew that the Help desk was not the place to get assistance or express your opinion about this matter.
After seeing the threads about you in various places, yesterday I ran a checkuser and communicated with MuZemike. After seeing the way the situation has unfolded further, my opinion is now strongly that you need to link to the other account. I see no reason that you should be allow to continue with this persona and further disrupt. Knock it off now or this account will be blocked. FloNight♥♥♥♥ 09:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK i am sad that u block my account, but i understand all the things u say. i do not wish to reveal my oled account name becos i am retired and have legitamate privacy concerns. HOWEVER, someday maybe i will come back under a new name and NO ONE WILL KNOW becos my edits will be so good (i.e., little or no TROLLING and no DISRUPTION or things like this) that NO ONE WILL SUSPECT I AM DOING A CLEANSTART and there will be no issue :-D. OK UR A VERY NICE LADY..--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 09:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Block
I've blocked this account indefinitely - it's pretty obvious you're just here to troll. However, you may still edit this page, if you wish to follow Flonight's advice, above. f o x 09:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- U r a foxy fellow. Good show. :-D--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 09:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'm ignorant of some things you are not, but why is this account blocked? Do people really find it so difficult to read his posts that they consider them to be disruptive? Parrot of Doom 11:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Parrot of doom u r a very gud man and i am glad u ask this question. I think they block me becos I ask some silly question on the help desk and they think i waist the community's time (w/ so called "trolling" but which i consider making a silly joke now and then), but this is very subjective. I am not to much upset, but i wish i could edit some more becos i love to do vandal fighting and recent changes patrolling and things of this nature. YES i can talk in proper English but there is no harm in a bit of slang on my talk page, so i agree with u in that regard. Cheers!--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 11:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- I wouldn't go so far as to say it's painfully obvious trolling, but I still think, even if we gave this user another chance, there's almost no way we could let them continue their "txt" spiel. The user tried to do good stuff, but did it wrong, and, OK, I suppose you can leave this account blocked, as long as if the user creates another account, it should be fully constructive and virtually indistinguishable from this one. Basically, Bad edits, if you're here to actually work, create a new account and don't screw up like you did this time. If you are here to troll, go away. Be honest with yourself. new, improved Finalius! 11:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Why can he not continue to use text-speak? What harm does it do, except perhaps to offend the sensibilities of those who believe themselves to be arbiters of English? Maybe we should all start writing in Middle-English, after all that came "before" modern English. I have no doubt that within a few decades text-speak will push its way into the modern vernacular, and the Oxford English Dictionary. Unless this user is engaged in disruptive editing of articles, I really don't see the point of blocking him. There are many, far worse, editors here who create havoc, but do so in "proper" English. Parrot of Doom 13:09, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think the txtspk was the sole reason for the block. –xeno 13:15, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Finalius, i'm pretty sure you don't mean indistinguishable... anyway the main complaint here is that the user is completely proficient in written English, and has made a few
slip-upsfully literate posts (such as the one linked above) but when a user requests he speaks properly, he will respnd in th most worses wurds he can nd thing like this. Painfully obvious trolling is right (as aformentioned), perhaps limited to talk pages it can be ignored but it's spread to help desk, AN/I and beyond, time to call it a day Jebus989 13:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)- So basically, a user who writes in a format which is slightly less legible than standard English gets a block? Fuck me, has nobody around here got a sense of humour? Since when were blocks issued for things like this? Mebe ah shood star t'tok lyk thees, and then I can be blocked for making you all think with a Scottish accent? Parrot of Doom 16:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- I dnt tnk teh txtspk wuz teh nly rzn 4 teh blk. –xeno 16:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- His original account was not blocked. I think this block is mostly to encourage him to get back on the original account if he wants to edit, saying that this one violates the clean start policy. His use of text-speak spelling and asking useless questions on the help desk also contributed though. —Soap— 16:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- But i cannod use my original account. i already explain this.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:58, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- His original account was not blocked. I think this block is mostly to encourage him to get back on the original account if he wants to edit, saying that this one violates the clean start policy. His use of text-speak spelling and asking useless questions on the help desk also contributed though. —Soap— 16:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- @ Parrot - as a Scot, I'm quite offended at the murdering of my dialect. :( f o x 16:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- As a Scot you should be ashamed anyway ;) Parrot of Doom 16:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- I dnt tnk teh txtspk wuz teh nly rzn 4 teh blk. –xeno 16:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- So basically, a user who writes in a format which is slightly less legible than standard English gets a block? Fuck me, has nobody around here got a sense of humour? Since when were blocks issued for things like this? Mebe ah shood star t'tok lyk thees, and then I can be blocked for making you all think with a Scottish accent? Parrot of Doom 16:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Finalius, i'm pretty sure you don't mean indistinguishable... anyway the main complaint here is that the user is completely proficient in written English, and has made a few
- I don't think the txtspk was the sole reason for the block. –xeno 13:15, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Why can he not continue to use text-speak? What harm does it do, except perhaps to offend the sensibilities of those who believe themselves to be arbiters of English? Maybe we should all start writing in Middle-English, after all that came "before" modern English. I have no doubt that within a few decades text-speak will push its way into the modern vernacular, and the Oxford English Dictionary. Unless this user is engaged in disruptive editing of articles, I really don't see the point of blocking him. There are many, far worse, editors here who create havoc, but do so in "proper" English. Parrot of Doom 13:09, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- I wouldn't go so far as to say it's painfully obvious trolling, but I still think, even if we gave this user another chance, there's almost no way we could let them continue their "txt" spiel. The user tried to do good stuff, but did it wrong, and, OK, I suppose you can leave this account blocked, as long as if the user creates another account, it should be fully constructive and virtually indistinguishable from this one. Basically, Bad edits, if you're here to actually work, create a new account and don't screw up like you did this time. If you are here to troll, go away. Be honest with yourself. new, improved Finalius! 11:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Parrot of doom u r a very gud man and i am glad u ask this question. I think they block me becos I ask some silly question on the help desk and they think i waist the community's time (w/ so called "trolling" but which i consider making a silly joke now and then), but this is very subjective. I am not to much upset, but i wish i could edit some more becos i love to do vandal fighting and recent changes patrolling and things of this nature. YES i can talk in proper English but there is no harm in a bit of slang on my talk page, so i agree with u in that regard. Cheers!--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 11:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'm ignorant of some things you are not, but why is this account blocked? Do people really find it so difficult to read his posts that they consider them to be disruptive? Parrot of Doom 11:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
I think u shud all listen to Parrot of Dumb (jk, that was just a silly joke i say Dumb instead of Doom just for a bit of added fun) becos he is a grate man and u shud all listen to wut he has to say and he make SEVERAL excellent points. For example u shud all get a sense of humours becos there is nothing that say jokes are not allow on Misplaced Pages. Besides i do not do jokes in the mainspace i just did a bit of funny things and if ppl did not like the funny things i do (like when i sed on the Help Desk how do i read the private mailing lists) then I APOLGIZED FOR MY ACTIONS and did not do again.
Now i also have a message for fox. I realize he is also a grate man and a gud admin and he is from Scotland and things like this but here in Americas it is not agains the law to be funny from time to time and do a silly thing. Moreovers, the consensus of the community is that this was a very bad block, so i ask u to reconsider ur action so i can get back to my vandal fightings and will no longer be a disrupt to the community at large. Thx.
Even if i am NOT EVER unblock i am not hole a grudge agains ANY OF U and if u need assitance with WIkipedias u r always welcome to email me. :-D--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think BErD has misinterpreted the reactions he read in response to this block. One of the responses read "I'm not going to say that I don't agree with the block, ..." and the other read "I wouldn't have indeffed him (blocked him indefinitely), but he was trolling". I'm not sure how BErD can interpret these two statements as "the consensus of the community is that this was a very bad block". I don't think either of those statements supports BErD's conclusion, nor does anything else that the community has had to say on the matter. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 19:28, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- :-( but i thot everyone like bad edits r dumb. r u say the do not liek me and they r happy i am block?--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- DNFT. --Saddhiyama (talk) 20:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK but if u chaeng ur mind and u liek to feed the troll i liek to eat tacos and burrito and also nachos.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 20:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- DNFT. --Saddhiyama (talk) 20:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC)