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Confusing Etymology
hvitasunnu-dagr, hwittesun-day, "white-sun-day" = i.e. "beginning of the Summer half-year". All of the mixing of christian come-latelies and their attaching the day to their 'pentecost' should be kept more distinct for the sake of accuracy and scholarship.--Wittsun (talk) 13:05, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Number of weeks after Easter
im sure whitsun is 6 sundays after easter, not 7? 5
- so much for certainty. Look on a calendar. Whitsun = pentecost = Greek 50 (sc. days after Easter Sunday). 7 weeks x 7 days a week = 49 days.Jagdfeld (talk) 13:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Merge article?
- I agree that the article must be merged with Pentecost. Nikosgreencookie (talk) 16:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Disagree I think the article should be renamed "Whitsuntide" as this was a traditional holiday week in the United Kingdom. If that was done it would differentiate this article from Pentecost and the Whitsuntide article could be expanded with all the things that went on (and still go on - particularly in the north west of England) in the week following Whit Sunday For example; Whit Fairs, Whit Walks, Brass band contests etc. I have some references for events that happen during Whitsuntide and would be happy to expand the article and make it a gateway to other articles about events in that week. Also, if you look on the Pentecost talk page a merge was discussed and rejected over a year ago. In fact a merge discussion should appear on the talk pages of both articles see Proposing a merger Richerman (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- Disagree: Don't merge. I don't think most Americans have ever heard the word "Whitsuntide" and would be absolutely clueless if someone asked them what it meant, if that makes any difference to anyone. (I do agree with the suggestion for the change in the title of this article to "Whitsuntide".) Even the word "Whitsun" is rare in the U.S., except to certain sects of devout, God fearing Protestants. The terms "Whitsun" and "Whitsuntide" are Britishisms for a British holiday and hoilday week, and deserves this separate article. However, I think THIS article should include a section on the Whitsun celebration in Germany, called »Pfingsten«, which is celebrated in similar ways to the British. (Note: The most common term for this holiday in the U.S. is Pentecost, which does not have any of the British or German secular associations with holidays away from work, public celebrations and brass band contests, morris dancing, Whit Fairs, and the like.) Regards, Charvex (talk) 16:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Disagree: Don't merge. But I also wouldn't recommend renmaing it "Whitsuntide". The expansion suggested by Richerman would be interesting, but is quite appropriate under the present heading "Whitsun". In the Netherlands, BTW, it is called "Pinkster" and incorporates regional pre-Christian festivals as in other countries. (Mangodog (talk) 12:24, 24 May 2010 (UTC))
- Disagree: Whitsun is a pre-christian holiday.--Wittsun (talk) 13:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- I've removed the merge tag as the merge was incorrectly proposed in the first place (see my comment above), it's been open for four months and there is clearly no consensus for merge. Richerman (talk) 00:01, 25 May 2010 (UTC)