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Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination.

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How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

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An example of how to use the template is given below. Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}: 

{{subst:NewDYKnom
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  • Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
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How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, or may suggest new hooks.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, you may use the following symbols (optional) to point the issues out:

Symbol Code DYK Ready? Description
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Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice if there is an issue.

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on August 8

Ball Park (UTA station)

  • ... that then governor of Utah, Jon Huntsman Jr., used Ball Park station as a backdrop to support Prop 3, a measure that included 33-unidentified projects?"
  • ALT1:"... that Ball Park station was used as a backdrop by Jon Huntsman Jr. to support a proposition that included 33-unidentified transit projects?"

5x expanded by Admrboltz (talk). Self nom at 04:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Nano Ganesh

Created by Priyanath (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Muskrat Ramble

Created by Jafeluv (talk). Self nom at 02:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

1907–1908 New Zealand rugby tour of Great Britain

Tour organiser Albert Henry Baskiville

Created by Mattlore (talk). Self nom at 00:13, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Article has only one inline citation right now, and is above all still under construction. In addition, I could not verify the hook; if I missed something, could someone please go through the article and check for any source within the article that supports the above hook? --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 01:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, there is currently one reference in the 1907_in_Australia section about the movement in Sydney, which might have not been there when you first checked and their are citations for New Zealand being involved in the first ever rugby league test match. Would it be better to wait until the article's other sections are completed? Mattlore (talk) 01:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Sounds from a Town I Love

  • Comment: This is my second attempt at getting a DYK to the main page. Hopefully it works!

Created by Artichoke-Boy (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

  • You're slightly under the requirement of 1,500 bytes worth of prose (the article currently has 1,134 bytes worth). Also, while the article is classified as a stub, I'm not concerned about that. --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 00:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 7

St. Thomas of Villanova Church

St. Thomas of Villanova Church

Created by MusicMaker5376 (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The Tale of Peter Rabbit

5x expanded by Kathyrncelestewright (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Expansion is far less than 5x. Before you expanded the article, it had 2,337 bytes worth of prose. 2337 x 5 = 11 , 685 {\displaystyle 2337x5=11,685} , and the article currently has 6,256 bytes worth of prose. This leaves over 5,400 bytes of prose before the article is suitable for DYK. Are you ready to undertake such an expansion? --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 23:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Alex Cusack

5x expanded by Nev1 (talk). Self nom at 23:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Rika's Landing Roadhouse

Created by Lar (talk). Self nom at 23:00, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Toney Douglas

5x expanded by Dabomb87 (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Length of both the hook (174 characters) and the article (4,128 bytes of prose) are appropriate, the hook has been verified, and the expansion is well over 5x (around 12x based on my calculations). Checked using DYKcheck. --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 23:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Acanthoplus discoidalis

Created by Smartse (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Note: One of the common names listed in the article could be used instead of the latin if anyone thinks it is better and so long as it is ok to have a redirect on DYK. Smartse (talk) 19:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I added a convert template to also show the distance in inches. Sasata (talk) 20:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Although "toxic" is used by the BBC report, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of the haemolymph being anything more than unpalatable to a couple of lizard species (the Beeb also described the insect as "fat", so precise use of language doesn't seem to have been a priority). Long Shrift (talk) 22:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Face the Ace

Created by Gary King (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  • I just started DYK reviewing this evening, so please correct me if I have made a mistake, but the article checks out from my understanding – the article is at readable prose length (1,676 bytes) and the hook is verified. Also, the hook is at an acceptable 159 characters. Checked using DYKcheck. --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 22:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Colt Anderson

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 18:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Simón Susarte

Route up the Rock of Gibraltar taken by 500 soldiers of the besieging Spanish Army led by the goatherd Simón Susarte

Created by Gibmetal77 (talk). Self nom at 18:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  • The length of the article is appropriate at 3,848 bytes worth of prose, and the hook has been verified. I do, however, have one concern: the hook (which is 259 bytes worth of prose long) is well above the general limit for hook length (200 bytes of prose). Do you think it's possible that you could shorten the hook? Cheers, Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 22:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Bill Humble

Created by David Underdown (talk). Self nom at 16:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Bob Stewart

Fixed refs for you. Bare urls are not legitimate as refs. Avoid blogs and google cache. Otherwise, date, refs and hook are Ok. Materialscientist (talk) 01:40, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Expanded bit more. Added infobox. Added Books ref section in addition to online refs/notes. siarach (talk) 02:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Estrella Blanca

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 13:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

looks good, length and date okay Dincher (talk) 00:11, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

LRC (train)

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 12:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Prose > 5x, infobox and refs make it look smaller. I'm on vacation for a week, if there's any problems could someone ping me in e-mail? My "Contact" link on my page is hooked up? Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Kam Chancellor

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 10:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Army Gold Medal

Created by Gwinva (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

William Thompson Lusk

Created by NuclearWarfare (talk), Dylan620 (talk), Headbomb (talk), Leonard^Bloom (talk), and Soap (talk. Self nom at 03:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Uncle Sam (diamond)

  • ... that the Uncle Sam diamond, the largest diamond ever discovered in the United States, was named after the person who found it?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 02:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  • The article does not mention that it was named after the founder, but after the founder's nickname. That hook would lead someone to believe that the founder was named "Uncle Sam". Change it. You need +200 to reach the 5x expansion. --Alarichus (talk) 09:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
  • 5x expansion of prose has been achieved (2392/421=5.68). Checked using DYKcheck. --Bruce1ee 10:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
    I can't judge myself whether a nickname qualifies to "named after" and thus propose (though dislike its phrasing and can't find right words for it)
ALT1 ... that the Uncle Sam diamond, the largest diamond ever discovered in the United States, was named after the nickname of its finder? Materialscientist (talk) 10:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
It should be "finder" rather than "founder" (an error made in one of the sources too). Only one of the references states the association with "Uncle Sam" as a fact, the other two suggest it is legend. Long Shrift (talk) 10:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
BruceLee start counting from 923 or 962 not from 421, and you'll see that the article needs about 4600 to reach 5x expansion. --Alarichus (talk) 10:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Expansion is computed using the prose character count, not the total article byte count as shown in the revision history. See DYK rules. --Bruce1ee 10:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Fixed finder. Regarding the legend, it depends whom you listen; if number of refs is an argument, I can provide several more saying its not. I should add that though this diamond must be american pride, so little is known about it that a full day of searching was needed to produce this short article. Materialscientist (talk) 11:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 6

Sarah A. Bowman

Sarah Bowman (center) as proprietor of the American House

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Who the Hell is Juliette?

Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 19:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

History of Bali

Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 07:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  •  Done Thank you for pointing this out! Phg (talk) 11:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
    Date, length, refs verified. A potential GAN. I just wonder why "in turn" is placed in the hook? Another thought, there are several google books on Bali, why not adding them into references? BTW I'm not sure "Bali Museum notice" ref is reliable source. Even if it is, it needs some explanation. Materialscientist (talk) 12:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Please remove or replace "in turn" from hook if problematic: I meant a chronological sequence. I have already added a few Google Books upon your suggestion. By "Bali Museum notice" I mean the explanatory notes displayed in the museum besides the artifacts. I can provide photographs of the notes to anyone interested. Is there a better way to mention these? Best regards (thanks for your improvements to the article!). Phg (talk) 23:33, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thomas N. Schroth, Frank D. Schroth

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Seo Hui

Created by Historiographer (talk), Caspian blue (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  • I don't think English references are required as articles with foreign language references regularly pass, but "his achievement in" is redundant, Khitan links to a disambiguation page, and I'm not sure you can drive away something by negotiation; maybe "... that, in 993, Seo Hui, a Korean diplomat in the Goryeo period, prevented an invasion by Khitan troops?" Long Shrift (talk) 10:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm asking for an english reference so we can verify the hook. If we cant verify the hook, then we cant accept the nomination. --Alarichus (talk) 10:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Alarichus, that's not how things go here. There are Korean speaking editors on en.wikipedia. We can ask them to verify the hook. AdjustShift (talk) 14:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I've asked BorgQueen to verify the hook. AdjustShift (talk) 15:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The hook fact, length and date verified. Btw, this history stuff almost put me to sleep. My goodness, zzz --BorgQueen (talk) 15:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, BorgQueen. I think Long Shrift's hook is better. AdjustShift (talk) 15:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, I did not expect that a review would be done this early since non-English subjects tend to be out of attention. However, I added plenty of English sources and I found this topic is interesting to expand the article. Thank you for everyone who proofread the article, and helped to check and checked the Korean sources for the DYK entry.--Caspian blue 21:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Alt 1*... that Seo Hui, a Korean diplomat in the Goryeo period is best known for his tactful diplomatic skill that led the Khitan troop of 800,000 soldiers evacuated from Goryeo without a battle? --Caspian blue 21:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The Chapters

  • ... that The Chapters entertained two hundred people on a train as part of the twenty-fifth anniversary celebrations of the DART?

5x expanded by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Search for Alan Goulden

Created by Kingpin13 (talk). Self nom at 23:51, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

It's one of those "obvious" unwritten rules. Articles for deletion cannot be made DYK. --Alarichus (talk) 10:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, what if the article is kept, surely it could be placed on DYK after that? - Kingpin (talk) 10:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
It can be, but it won't be passed while the tag is there. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 10:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
May we put this {{onhold}} then? - Kingpin (talk) 10:44, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
OK --Alarichus (talk) 22:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

 On hold while page is at AfD - Kingpin (talk) 23:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Genetic Studies of Genius

Created by Cassmus (talk). Self nomination 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Óbuda Synagogue

Óbuda Synagogue

  • ... that the copper roof of the Óbuda Synagogue (pictured) was melted down to make weapons during World War I?
    ALT1... that the Óbuda Synagogue (pictured) was built in a suburb because Jews were not permitted to live in Buda?

Created by User:Historicist (talk). Self nom , 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Done.Historicist (talk) 12:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Refs. date, length Ok. Materialscientist (talk) 12:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Cyclone Orson

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self nom at 22:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Reference 1 says it was one of the most intense, not "the third most intense". Reference 2 does not mention "cyclone orson" at all. --Alarichus (talk) 09:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I've changed it to the best track reference, although there is a little bit of clicking involved, you'll find that it's the third most intense. I can't do any better than that so I hope this reference works Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Last Post (poem)

Henry Allingham

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 22:22, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Buy, Buy Baby

Created/expanded by ThinkBlue (talk), Theleftorium (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

  • IMDb is not a reliable source. Anyway, the Red Eye and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette articles have been accessed with NewsBank, an online newspaper archive. I can send them to you via email or post screenshots. Theleftorium 08:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Just add the links, because the 2 current references do not verify the hook. --Alarichus (talk) 09:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, they do. I can't post links because you need a library code to access them. Here's a screenshot of one of the articles: Theleftorium 09:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
OK, let's move on. Det är bra. --Alarichus (talk) 09:38, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
You speak Swedish? :-) Theleftorium 15:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Richard Nixon presidential campaign, 1968

Created/expanded by William S. Saturn (talk). Self nom at 21:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Puget Sound Shore Railroad

Created by NE2 (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Brian Belo

Created by DJ. Self nom at 21:51, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Date, length, hook, references verified.--Alarichus (talk) 21:18, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

References 1 and 15 lead to Misplaced Pages pages and Misplaced Pages pages which don't exist at that. --candle•wicke 22:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

No they don't. It's the cite episode template that has been badly formatted. DJ 22:38, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Mislinks Candlewicke. The article is ok. --Alarichus (talk) 22:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
OK, just noticed and thought I'd say. --can

dle•wicke 01:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, let's move on.--Alarichus (talk) 09:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

John McClannahan Crockett

Created by AdjustShift (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Too small for me, and the hook does not seem interesting at all. If someone else wants to allow for DYK, let him allow it. --Alarichus (talk) 09:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The article may be too small for you, but it qualifies for DYK. You've been here on en.wikipedia only since July 20, 2009; you should probably get some more experience before vetting other contributors' DYK suggestions. AdjustShift (talk) 14:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The hook points that Crockett was both the second mayor of Dallas (it is one of the major cities of Texas) and the Lieutenant Governor of Texas (it is the second-highest executive office in the government of Texas). AdjustShift (talk) 14:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Sapta Badri

  • ... that according to a Hindu legend, when evil transcends the world, the route to the sacred Badrinath Temple (pictured) will be blocked and god Vishnu, the presiding deity of Badrinath, will appear at the Bhavishya Badri temple and be worshipped there?
  • ALT1:... that since early times the approach to Badrinath, Uttarakhand, India, was along a bridle path of a forest of berries, and hence the word "Badri" (berry) got suffixed to Sapta Badri temples (Badrinath – central temple pictured)?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Ernesto Basile

Ernesto Basile

Created by Alarichus (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Date and length good. The image has problems at Commons. Regarding the hook: Basile did not "build" the Palazzo Montecitorio, he designed a major renovation. The reference provided, Terry Kirk's 2005 book "The Architecture of Italy" has nothing about Basile doing this work. Instead, a reference such as this should be used. Binksternet (talk) 15:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Read the book carefully . The Palazzo del Parlamento passage from where it says "in 1881 Crispi..". About the image: Even if the one who uploaded it didnt provide a source, that does not affect its copyright status since it was taken at least 77 years ago(Basile diead in 1932). About the hook: I changed it as you pointed out, it was his father who started it, and Basile continued/completed it.--Alarichus (talk) 16:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the google books link—I can see now that Kirk does indeed talk about Basile. My earlier search within the book turned up nothing, a situation I can't explain. I believe I have found a URL source for the image. Binksternet (talk) 16:40, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Same thing happened to me, when I searched for "ernesto basile". Then I searched for "Ernesto Basile", and I got the correct result. It probably was case-sensitive.--Alarichus (talk) 17:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

George W. Woodruff

Created by Disavian (talk). Self nom at 08:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in Bucharest

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Puño Airlines

  • ... that 14 American fugitives showed up at the phony Puño Airlines counter to claim their prize, after authorities sent phony congratulations on winning a free trip to the Bahamas?

Created by Sherurcij (talk). Self nom at 03:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Checks up fine. Interesting fact. I'm not sure "phony" is the best wording though. Another comment, it is really frustrating to keep clicking refs 1-4 and getting into irrelevant WP articles and only on ref. 5 reaching the source. Could you please (i) delink the publishers in ref. 1-4; (ii) look for other web-accessible refs ? Materialscientist (talk) 05:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Ras Ibn Hani

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Wu Gang

  • ... that Wu Gang had to chop down a tree on the moon that always healed itself, forcing him to keep trying forever?

Created by Kayau (talk). Self nom at 10:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 5

Syrinx aruanus

Shell of Syrinx aruanus.

Created by Snek01 (talk), Invertzoo (talk). Self nom at 13:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Foreign relations of Pope Pius XII

General Mark Clark

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 01:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Stealth technology as a pliable electromagnetic envelope

  • ... that optical transmission material in a state of anomalous dispersion causes group velocity to exceed the speed of light, so the output of a laser pulse, from the material, is observed before the input pulse, to the material?

Created by Ti-30X (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, I linked the article Ti-30X (talk) 06:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that a laser beam appears to exit resonant optical material before the input beam, at pliable electromagnetic resonant frequencies?
OK I have created a link in my entry (above) with part of the name of the article. I apologize that I did not understand how this goes. Ti-30X (talk) 12:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, I prefer ALT2 to ALT1 because ALT2 conveys the essence of the phenomenom much better. Ti-30X (talk) 12:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
* Hold the nominatiion, please. We just did a "move" to change the article title. Sorry, about the delay. I will probably have to re-write entry to include the new title. Thanks for your patience. Ti-30X (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Joachim-Friedrich Huth

Created by MisterBee1966 (talk). Self nom at 13:33, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Project Kaisei

Tall ship Kaisei

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 01:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Brown diamonds

Faceted brown diamond at Museum of Natural History

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment, I don't like the hook; it's like saying "Did you know that the inventors of Velcro were Caucasian?" - diamond-finding isn't an exclusively male activity; so this isn't terribly interesting (and reeks of unintentional sexism...) - can I suggest "... one of the world's largest brown diamonds was found by a young girl in a scrap heap?" or something similar? Sherurcij 04:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
    I would argue the opposite, i.e. diamond extraction has always been a male activity, and the mentioned finds were rarest exceptions, but I appreciate the alternative idea which I would put as:

Dutch intervention in Bali (1906)

Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Cuba-Sri Lanka relations

Created by Pectore (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

  • I see your point. How about?

Lyman Hall (academic)

5x expanded by Disavian (talk). Self nom at 22:22, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Maurice Henry Pappworth

Created by Steve (talk). Self nom at 22:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

  • I just realised that the hook is cited to a source that isn't available to most editors. To clarify, a good portion of the piece is given over to his "vehement campaigning for patients' interests", but the quotes that pretty much cover it are "Pappworth's and Beecher's publications led eventually to strict codes for human experimentation—not merely a revision of the declaration of Helsinki but the establishment of research ethics committees ... to scrutinize all projects" and "Certainly, without his (and Beecher's) persistence ... the implementation of proper ethical standards for research would have been considerably delayed." Note that while the first quote says "strict"—rather than "stricter"—the wider context of the article makes it clear that these were either revisions to—or improvements on—the Nuremberg Code and first Declaration of Helsinki. All the best, Steve  09:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

W. Harry Vaughan

Created by Disavian (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Alfredo Figaro

Alfredo Figaro

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Nominated by Giants27 (talk) at 18:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

  • -Is Fernando Rodney really that famous? Are having cousins on the same team that unique?(Maybe this is my opinion) Could you provide an alternate hook?
  • It is rather uncommon for cousins to play on the same team at the same time and have one (Rodney) come in relief of him at least once, which is why I suggested it.--Giants27 (c|s) 19:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Adnan al-Malki

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ted Nierenberg, Jens Quistgaard, Dansk International Designs

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Date, length, hook, ref verified. AdjustShift (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

1987 Hipercor bombing

Created by Valenciano (talk). Self nom at 11:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Crypt Chambers

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 08:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ken Major

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 08:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment This brings up the ton!
  • The article is mostly based on a "self-citation" source, i.e. the subject describing himself, which may not be used (the origin of that Word document is also unclear). Secondary sources are required. Materialscientist (talk) 12:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I asked at Wikipedia_talk:BIOG#Guidance_please about the source and was told it was OK as a non-controversial subject. As and when third party sources become available I intend to use them to replace the first party source wherever possible. The hook itself is not referenced from the first party source. Mjroots (talk) 13:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
    Another issue remains: the article is based on an unconfirmed source (.doc file supposedly written by the subject). Bluntly speaking, someone could fabricate certain details of his life (for whatever reason) and upload to that server. Validity of the article is a part of the DYK nomination. Materialscientist (talk) 22:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

R.S.A.G.

  • ... that R.S.A.G., said to be "one of the most innovative and astonishing Irish musicians around", performs with a virtual band projected onto a screen in a style which has been likened to Gorillaz?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 03:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Like.com

  • ... that the website Like.com allows users to highlight a part of a product image and search for similar-looking products based on the pattern, shape, and color of the highlighted part?

Created by Gary King (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 4

Terminal Doppler Weather Radar

Created by 70.52.8.28 (talk), Atmoz (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Vlasta Průchová

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 16:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Prionochilus

5x expanded by Sabine's Sunbird (talk). Self nom at 06:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Charles McDonald (Canadian politician)

Created by Dogged mayor (talk). Nominated by Bobamnertiopsis (talk) at 22:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Albert Levitt

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Leo Mintz

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 07:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Panapasa Balekana

ALT ... that Panapasa Balekana co-wrote God Save Our Solomon Islands, the national anthem, as a prayer for the country after receiving inspiration in a dream?

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 01:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Shafiq al-Hout

Created by Al Ameer son (talk) 22:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

List of Chicago Cubs managers

Alfredo Figaro

5x expanded by Torsodog (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Emily Newell Blair

Created/expanded by Dranster (talk). Nominated by ImperatorExercitus (talk) at 14:32, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

How Sweet To Be An Idiot

Created by Rodhullandemu (talk). Self nom at 14:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper

Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self nom at 12:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Saint-Gilles-Croix-de-Vie

5x expanded by Drmies (talk) and LadyofShalott (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The Infomatics

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

SMS Bayern (1915)

  • ... that the battleship Bayern was the first German warship to mount 15 inch guns?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

PZL Bielsko SZD-6x

  • ... that the SZD-6x suffered PIOs (pilot induced oscillations) while still at low altitude over the airfield, hit the ground hard and was damaged?

Created by Petebutt (talk). Self nom at 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Oregon Eastern Railway

Created by NE2 (talk). Self nom at 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Crosbie Castle and the Fullarton estate

Created by Rosser1954 (talk). Self nom at 21:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thrill-Ville USA

5x expanded by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Charles Lydiard

  • ... that Captain Charles Lydiard (pictured) died in the wreck of his ship when he became exhausted after trying to ensure that as many of his crew as possible were saved?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Docklands Light Railway rolling stock

B07 stock train at Poplar DLR station.

5x expanded by Tyw7 (talk). Self nom at 16:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Not eligible; nowhere remotely close to 5x expansion  Chzz  ►  17:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Michael A. Wiener

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Lake Amara (Ialomiţa County)

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Acintya

Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 13:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Benson (fish)

Created by Dweller (talk). Self nom at 12:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't see that stipulated in "the rules". I could rehash the quotes in my own voice, but it seems daft - surely including plentiful quotes ensures the highest levels of verifiability and NPOV? --Dweller (talk) 13:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I looked at Misplaced Pages:Did you know/Additional rules, which removes blockquotes from the count, which in turn leaves the count lacking. Perhaps at least reformulate them to be "in the rules". Hekerui (talk) 14:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The article's been substantially enhanced and expanded. Using this tool, it's now 2330 characters, excluding the block quotes. --Dweller (talk) 16:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Date, length, and hook fine. Hekerui (talk) 17:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your review and for the helpful edits to the article/talk page. --Dweller (talk) 20:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment I'm surprised that people have commented on this hook without so far noticing three glaring issues. "Has died" is exceptionally dated, and does not read like a proper hook on DYK (more likely wikinews stuff). The hook rests on the fact that the fish has died which is neither uncommon nor interesting. Also, a statement like "best-loved" is subjective and relative (it's a claim about value, not a measure of value). Therefore:
    • ALT 1: ... that Benson, a common carp who was called Britain's "biggest and best-loved", is believed to have been poisoned?
  • I also think we can safely keep the following as a "cooky" April Fool's hook:
  • The alts don't sing like the original, which is funny, does. To address the subjectiveness, if we must, you could simply put quotation marks around the offending bits, like a virtual fig leaf: ... that Benson, Britain's "biggest and best-loved" common carp, has died? I can't agree that "has died" is a problem, although "is dead" doesn't suck: ... that Benson, Britain's "biggest and best-loved" common carp, is dead? The hook (no pun ...) is funny because how much can you love a carp? And its death, though sad, is not real, real sad. --Milkbreath (talk) 20:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
  • On a regular day, we don't aim for funny (certainly not by tweaking hooks to look funny), but for interesting. "If we must" - yes, we must (WP:ATTR etc.). My point was not and is not about things "offending", but about not making an exception for the sake of making an exception. Because we usually avoid timely references, and because we would never structure other hooks simply around the notion that someone or something is dead. Emily Newell Blair is a proposed hook on this page; how would you feel about a hook saying "... that Emily Newell Blair is dead?" Or, conversely, how would you have felt about one saying, some time ago, "... that Benson is not dead?" See my point? Now, unless carps are expected to live forever, the proposed hook is not what hooks are supposed to be. Dahn (talk) 21:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
  • This is starting to look like one of those things that can go round and round forever. I'll ignore your question where you contrive to introduce the notion of a dead human being. Two things, though, and then I'll ride off into the sunset forever mum: One, to ask whether we knew that the carp was dead is funny and interesting because we hadn't known such an uncommonly beloved bottom-feeder had been alive in the first place, and we want to know who she was; we're invited to love her too late. Quelle dommage. And, B, nobody needs serious citation for a "fact" like Benson's belovedness and bigness. It's obviously tongue-in-cheek, and any footnote had better be equally droll, or we look foolish for not realizing that it's all in fun. Ok, three things: There's nothing wrong with funny. --Milkbreath (talk) 21:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Again, if you read my objections, you will note that I do not refer to anything morally objectionable about the info or how it is presented, so there is nothing insidious in my comparison with a human being - the point, which you miss over and over again, is that someone or something simply being dead does not make a hook, unless we expect that said someone or something live in perpetuity. The simple act of dying, that is, not even the circumstances of one's death. In fact, with my ALT 1, I tried to preserve the info about the death, in the only way that I could see how one could preserve it without making an exception for the sake of Benson. As for the rest: you continue to interpret a regular hook as if it were an April's Fool, a zinger or an epitaph. It is neither. Oh, and: no, I was not asking for a citation, even though attributing such quotes is, ideally, what should happen in hooks as well; I was asking, as you can see from my alt hook, that it be made into a quote, because otherwise it looks like wikipedia is here to transform opinions into facts. Now, it's bad enough that the article refers to it as a fact, as the one defining thing one can say about this fish, even if it is with the quote marks (it could do better than to prioritize an opinion, and clashes with other articles). It's worse that the hook drops the quote marks altogether. You yourself proposed variants with quote marks, advertising them as the solution - but that's probably because you did not read my alts. Dahn (talk) 21:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
My suggestion, FWIW (and trying to stay on the humorous side) is "... that Benson, a common carp, was known as "the people's fish"?" Tempted as I am to link that phrase to Diana, Princess of Wales for those who don't get the obvious reference (obvious to UK readers, at least, and I hope others), I won't. Bencherlite 22:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I for one am fine with both Yorkshiresky and Bencherlite's alts. Dahn (talk) 08:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Indictments Act 1915

Fuckin' 'Ell It's Fred Titmus

Created by Chzz (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

KFMR, KPSA-FM

KFMR 5x expanded by Dravecky, KPSA-FM created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 05:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Ameliella

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 02:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The Spiritual Harmonizers

Created by Marylandstater (talk). Self nom at 01:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 3

Beltrán-Leyva Cartel

Created by BatteryIncluded (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 03:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Fish diseases and parasites

Created by Geronimo20 (talk). Self nom at 23:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Kan Mukai

Created by Dekkappai (talk). Self nom at 01:46, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

New York Court of Common Pleas

Created by Neutrality (talk). Nominated by Eastlaw (talk) at 00:38, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Ernest Brooks (photographer)

Wounded soldiers heading to the rear during the Battle of the Somme, 1916; one of Brooks' most famous pictures

Created by Shimgray (talk). Nominated by Smallman12q (talk) at 18:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Richard Nizielski

Created/expanded by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Epirus (ancient state)

Route of Pyrrhus of Epirus

Diego von Bergen

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 01:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Scharnhorst class armored cruiser

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 00:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Ernest W. Lefever

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Ion Creangă

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 22:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  • There are several cited sources for this in the article, including two English-language one (see Solomon, Voinescu). The stories themselves, if you should want to read them, have English versions lked in the "External links" section, as published by a reliable source (The Tale of All Tales, The Tale of Ionică the Fool). The defrocking part is also discussed by several sources used (and cited with footnotes), but they are all in Romanian. Dahn (talk) 22:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Jared Burton

Jared Burton

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 22:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Phineas and Ferb Get Busted

Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Sulayman al-Nabulsi

Sulayman al-Nabulsi at his study in 1957

Created by Al Ameer son (talk) 20:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Mercia MacDermott

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

HMS Carysfort (1766)

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 19:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Aqua Drama

Created/expanded by Breschard (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Premiership of Morarji Desai

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 18:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Władysław Turowicz

File:General braz.JPG

  • ... Air. Comm. Władysław Turowicz was Polish General who obtained Pakistani citizenship in 1960s. He is known to be "Rocket-Missile Man of Pakistan" due to his work on Pakistan's missile and space industry?

Created by Ironboy (talk). 10:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Very interesting article, but some problems - nom is not formatted properly, the prose is very awkward in some places, some weird choices of words (... died peacefully in a car accident?), and Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 is not WP:NPOV. WP:FANCRUFT is also applicable through the article. Shiva (Visnu) 18:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Needs link to find the article User F203 (talk) 22:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Comment. The article was created on 30 July with under 1500 chars and expanded later. The article (and hook) does need work. I fixed some refs, but some are unreliable (blogs). Materialscientist (talk) 00:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Russia–Swaziland relations

Location of Russia and Swaziland on a map of the world

Created by Russavia (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Film & Kino

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 15:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Booth Mansion

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Olímpico

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 11:17, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Phylactolaemata

  • ... that a square metre patch of Phylactolaemata, a freshwater class of Bryozoa, produced 800,000 statoblasts, "eggs" which can survive very harsh conditions and distribute offspring over long distances?

5x expanded. Self nom, --Philcha (talk) 08:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Mattisse. I like the 2nd half of your alt4. However I'd keep the first half of the current hook: "... that a 1 square metre patch of Phylactolaemata, a freshwater class of Bryozoa, produced ..." because: "Phylactolaemata, a freshwater Bryozoa" is not quite accurate scientifically; I prefer "produced" (past tense) becuase it describes only 1 observation. So how about:
Should not "produced" mean that "survive" should be "survived" to be grammatically consistent, or am I missing something here? —Mattisse (Talk) 13:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Phoenix Wright (character)

5x expanded by Zxcvbnm (talk). Self nom at 08:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  • The article was mostly rewritten and was merged beforehand, so it wasn't like I just blanked the page and then expanded it. The page would have stayed a redirect indefinitely.--ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Griqualand East

  • ... that the government of Griqualand East destroyed £10,000 in currency shortly after printing them?

5x expanded by Seb az86556 (talk). Self nom at 07:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  • I have serious doubts that the supporting ref. 14 is reliable source (private web-site with no apparent primary references). Is there a better ref. ?
  • Would The South African Mint Company (ref added), referring to the same author, be better? If not, I can change the hook to the burning of 10,000 pounds in currency before that (no picture). Seb az86556 (talk) 09:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
    I am most probably missing something, but the added ref. does not seem clear on first indigenous currency (it also seems uncertain about the origin of those coins and forgets to provide the clickable thumbnails at the bottom). Materialscientist (talk) 09:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Wynnea, Wynnea americana

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know... maybe the plain English hook makes it too obvious :) Try this then: "... that species in the fungal genus Wynnea (W. americana, pictured) have spore-making structures that are capped by a hinged lid?"

Murder of Brian Stidham

  • ... that pediatric opthalmologist Brian Stidham was murdered by another doctor for stealing his patients and his wife received $2M because county attorneys knew about the murder plot beforehand but did not report it?

Created by Acme Plumbing (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Where to start .. 212-character hook, the article has no in-line refs., all refs. are bare urls, many sections consist of single lines, and finally, the article is nominated for speedy deletion. Materialscientist (talk) 09:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
No, it's not going to be speedy deleted, I have 7 days to improve it which I will. I will shortened the did you know.

... did you know that Brian Stidham was murdered by another doctor because of a business dispute where two county lawyers allegedly knew about the murder plot beforehand but did nothing? Acme Plumbing (talk) 13:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

did you know that Brian Stidham was murdered by another doctor because of a business dispute where two county lawyers allegedly knew about the murder plot beforehard but did nothing ....looks like 173 characters roughly. I think it is Ok now and I will also be improving the writing today and tomorrow. Acme Plumbing (talk) 13:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

It is definitely not a green tick right now. --candle•wicke 18:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Seems to technically pass but prose needs to sound more scholarly. Maybe the author can ask others for help? User F203 (talk) 22:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
No way to "technically pass" yet - prose and refs of the article do need improvement and the notability of single murder (reason for deletion) does not seem addressed. Acme Plumbing, please do not assess your hook, focus on the article (tick removed). Materialscientist (talk) 23:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I won't assess but I am working on it (the article)! :) Acme Plumbing (talk) 05:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
FIXED! and more fixing in progress! Acme Plumbing (talk) 05:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Latest and best version:

  • ... that two county attorneys were sued for not reporting the plot by a jealous eye doctor to murder another eye doctor, who later lost his eyesight in prison?

Acme Plumbing (talk) 05:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC) (187 characters)

Do we really need to dumb down to 'eye doctor'? \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 02:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to re-write the DYK phrase and use "opthalmologist" Acme Plumbing (talk) 03:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

First Friday Devotions

Created by Pax85 (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  • The article has <1000 symbols of prose (quote doesn't count) and only 2 refs, one being a dead link and other does not look solid. I have no idea whether the topic is fine for stand-alone article. Materialscientist (talk) 09:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, I fixed both links, and I will see if I can find a better source for the one. As far as being suitable for the Encyclopedia, the First Saturday Devotions and others have articles (yes, I know, that is not the best argument). Also, there is quite a bit of history behind it. I will see what I can do to expand it over the next couple days... Thank you for the comments BTW! Take care, Pax85 (talk) 04:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry, but I think a WP article up at DYK needs better sources than this article has. Neither count as reliable sources per WP:RS, as far as I'm concerned. The first, for instance, claims to be derived from the New Catholic Encyclopedia--well, let's go to that Encyclopedia, rather than a derivative on a commercial website! (The site sells Catholic paraphernalia.) The second is from a minor ministry. Neither can authoritatively verify this devotion (either its history or its practice). There isn't much online: a section in a moderately decent Handbook of Prayers and a few other hits in Google Books--to make this a solid article one needs to go to the library and peruse the Catholic Encyclopedia and the New Catholic Encyclopedia, I believe. Drmies (talk) 16:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Taipei Bridge

  • ... that the current Taipei Bridge is the fourth bridge in that location in 120 years?

Created by AjaxSmack (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Alternate hook: ... that Taipei Bridge has served as a major gateway to Taipei, Taiwan, for 120 years?
  • Alternate hook: ... that the various Taipei Bridges have been made of wood, steel, and concrete?

Alexander Graham Bell

5x expanded by Harryzilber (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Limitation Act 1963

GreenSun Energy

  • ... that the Israeli company GreenSun Energy has a new process that can make cheap electricity from sunlight even on cloudy days?

Created by Historicist (talk). Self nom, 3 August 2009 (UTC)Historicist (talk) 00:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  • I have had an unpleasant experience with the supporting ref. 6: That short news claimed that the new solar battery is 5x more efficient than usual ones (if so, major sources should pick up this news in no time), and then the site apparently launched a SPAM attack on my popup-blocking Firefox (no proof, could be something else). In other words, could you find something more reliable for refs. ? Materialscientist (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2009 (UTC
I removed the problematic reference. The article is sourced to Haaretz and The Economist.Historicist (talk) 12:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Haaretz? I think that is the site which has also been attacking me and giving me unpleasant experiences... --candle•wicke 01:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
possibly so. It is a leading national newspaper and a reliable source. I fail to see what a website problem has to do with a DKY.Historicist (talk) 16:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, the problem is this: I go to check the source, then little screens start appearing telling me about viral problems on my PC (and I also have pop-ups disabled, like Materialscientist), my browser screen got small and then big, and I couldn't leave the page, so I quickly shut down my PC--I've had similar-looking problems before, and ended up having to reformat my hard drive. That is a problem. In other words, I could not verify the information and I'm not going to try again. That site ought to be blacklisted. Drmies (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
A word of comment: the Haaretz site heavily uses all sorts of 3rd party animated adds (which probably cause the attack). No respectable newspaper would do that to such extend. Thus I support blacklisting the site and do not consider the source reliable. Materialscientist (talk) 22:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art

5x expanded by Smb1138 (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on August 2

St Mary de Haura Church, Shoreham-by-Sea, Erringham chapel, St Nicolas' Church, Shoreham-by-Sea

  • Comment: Three new articles: St Mary was started on 2nd, St Nicolas on 4th and Erringham on 5th.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:33, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Gladys Bustamante

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 01:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Burning money

  • ... that burning money can provide for behavior modification, political notoriety, and a warm fireplace?

Created by Melchoir (talk). Self nom at 05:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Robert Cushman (curator)

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 03:04, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Steven Rothenberg

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The Raw Sessions

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Jakob von Washington

Created by Abductive (talk). Self nom at 16:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

William C. "King" Cole

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 03:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Bruce Shorts

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Joe Maddock (coach)

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Volodymyr Sterniuk

Created by Athenagoras (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Everett Sweeley

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Paul J. Jones

  • ... that federal judge Paul Jones (pictured) sentenced a pregnant mother of ten to jail for selling a quart of liquor, lectured her on birth control, and asked, "Doesn't this woman know how to stop it?"

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The Art of the Motorcycle

Frank Gehry's reflective stainless steel interior at Guggenheim Las Vegas

  • Comment: This diff is where I moved the article from a user space workpage to the article namespace. Lots of other images in article and in the Commons category

Created by Dbratland (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Alperin v. Vatican Bank

5x expanded by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Urban Transportation Development Corporation

UTDC's ICTS in Toronto. Today the system is known as the Bombardier ART

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Easily fixed:
Better, but delete "that's" and replace "developed" by something like "created" (repetition). Materialscientist (talk) 22:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I like both suggestions! Hmmm, how's this...

Da'Rel Scott

  • ... that recruiting analysts thought Da'Rel Scott was too small for a college running back, but in 2008 he ran for more than 1,000 yards and led his conference in rushing for most of the season?

5x expanded by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 10:19, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Toy Center

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

John Waltz (baseball)

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 23:08, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Watergate complex

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

My apopogiesHistoricist (talk) 19:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
  • The anniversary of Richard Nixon's resignation is August 9. Has anyone given thought to putting this proposed DYK on the Main Page on that day? Just a thought. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Confidence Hall

Confidence Hall

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Agaricus perobscurus

Created by User:ImperatorExercitus (talk). Self nom at 21:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

List of Baltimore Orioles (19th century) managers

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Lynn Pressman Raymond, Pressman Toy Corporation

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

John Pearson Soda Works

John Pearson Soda Works

  • ... that the John Pearson Soda Works was built in front of an idle mining shaft so there would be ample room to store ice?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 19:14, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Legend of the Parson and Clerk

Location of event, stacks are in the background

Created by Rosser1954 (talk). Nominated by Jolly Janner (talk) at 18:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sandy Hott

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 17:37, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Jeffrey McClanahan

Created by A Nobody (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Fort Laramie Three-Mile Hog Ranch

Created by Acroterion (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Peter Connell

Alt ... that when Ireland bowler Peter Connell took a hat-trick on his debut in first-class cricket, he was the first player to do so in an international match?

5x expanded by Nev1 (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Rana Chandra Singh

  • ...designed for his Pakistan Hindu Party a saffron flag bearing two ancient Hindu symbols - Om and Trishool...

Created by Yousaf465 (talk). Self nom at 12:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Even better.yousaf465'

Konstantin Umansky

Konstantin Umansky

Created by Russavia (talk). Self nom at 12:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

At the time of Umansky's posting in 1939, as per the hook, Umansky was the youngest ambassador to the US. Not the youngest Soviet ambassador, but the youngest of all countries ambassadors posted to Washington D.C. --Russavia 10:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

HMHS Rewa and HMHS Glenart Castle

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 10:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Capital punishment in Mexico

A pro-capital punishment billboard in Mexico

Created by Backslash Forwardslash (talk), Soap (talk), Jeff G. (talk). Self nom at 08:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I Anzac Corps

5x expanded by AustralianRupert (talk). Self nom at 08:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the review. Okay, I've shortened the hook, but not sure if I can expand it further. Is there a reason why it has to be last five days? I've expanded it from 2,730 bytes to 12,067 (I don't believe that to be minor) since 26 July, however, I guess as you say its not the past five days. It just seems like a rather arbitary rule, is all and one that would disqualify a lot of DYK candidates, but if its hard and fast then there's nothing I can do about it. — AustralianRupert (talk) 09:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the 5 days rule is set in stone and cannot be exempted from. Also, the article was at 1826 bytes of readable prose before and is at 5619 bytes now, which is only a 3,07x expansion even if one ignored the 5 days rule. Remember that the expansion rule is for readable prose size of article, not the full size including formatting and everything (you can install and use this script to determine it in future). So the current nomination is unfortunately not eligible for DYK and I have to say I doubt that you can expand it to more than 26,405 bytes of readable prose within the next 4 days (which would be 5x of the 5,281 it had after your last expansion on 26 July). Regards SoWhy 09:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Not sure that I will try again, to be honest. Seems like the rules overide the actual purpose of providing an interesting hook. Thanks anyway for taking a look. — AustralianRupert (talk) 10:18, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
The primary purpose of DYK is to showcase new articles (or significant expansions of old ones) and as such, there need to be strict rules, otherwise almost all articles could be eligible, negating the primary purpose for which DYK was created. Regards SoWhy 10:25, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm approving this article as we usually give novice nominators a little more leeway, and this article is really only a couple of days overdue and a handful of bytes short. AustralianRupert should note however that next time he submits an article it must be submitted within five days of the start of the expansion. Gatoclass (talk) 01:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Charter of Freedoms and Exemptions

Created by Wadester16 (talk). Self nom at 06:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that the Dutch-colonial Charter of Freedoms and Exemptions required that landowners prove they had acquired land from Native Americans by barter or purchase rather than just taking it outright? Daniel Case (talk) 12:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Very much prefer ALT 1; thank you Daniel. wadester16 13:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Only Clouds Move the Stars

Created by Decltype (talk). Self nom at 06:37, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Dennis Pitta

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The Dying Swan

5x expanded by Kathyrncelestewright (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 1

Linear (film)

  • ... that U2 (pictured) released a film titled Linear as a companion to their latest studio album, to enhance the album's listening experience with visuals?

Created by Dream out loud (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Stralsund (1628), Alexander Seaton

  • Comment: first nom on 2 August, hook changed on 5 August to include Alexander Seaton.

5x expanded by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 09:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Disk loading

5x expanded by Dhaluza (talk). Self nom at 14:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Pelagius of Oviedo

Pelagius of Oviedo (centre)

  • ... that the work of Pelagius of Oviedo as a historian is generally reliable, but he is known as the "prince of falsifiers" for various altered documents emanating from his office in the 12th century?

Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 01:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

1937 peasant strike in Poland

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:22, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Naval Base Gölcük

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 19:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Orrin G. Judd

5x expanded by Newyorkbrad (talk). Self nom at 18:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Hupehsuchia

Restoration of a polydactylous hupehsuchian

Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 18:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

  • The line in the article regarding the hook now mentions the Devonian. The original mention of the Devonian in the article is now cited, with the same reference given for it as the one for the line in the article regarding the hook. Smokeybjb (talk) 02:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Reality Killed the Video Star

  • Only a suggestion: change the hook totally, and mention the last minute add to the album, a song about Michael Jackson, written by Robbie Williams. Bib (talk) 22:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Fine with me, although I think the original and alt 1 hooks are good as well. I leave it to the promoting admin if this passes. Here is an alt for that fact:
Alt 2: ... that Robbie Williams recorded a last-minute tribute song to Michael Jackson to be released on his upcoming album Reality Killed the Video Star?
Regards SoWhy 06:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Shen-kuang-szu Incident

Created by GnuDoyng (talk). Self nom at 08:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Aulay Macaulay

Created by Celtus (talk). Self nom at 08:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Old St. Raymond's Church

Old St. Raymond's Church

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Guachanche barracuda

Created by Ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

New Redmond Hotel

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe a better hook would be to mention its early Georgian architecture and use as a bus station. The $1-2.50 is hard to judge if that was expensive or cheap in those days. Otherwise, an interesting article. User F203 (talk) 22:34, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 31

Renalase

Created by Stevenfruitsmaak (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Aquaculture in China

Created by Geronimo20 (talk). Self nom at 12:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The Gathering 2009

Created by Celtus (talk). Self nom at 08:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

  • This article mostly checks out but, from my browser today at least, something wierd is going on with the references. The article contains a sentence about "30,000 enjoying the sunshine; however rain the next day dampened the mood of some visitors". I think this fact should be removed as non-notable, but that isn't the problem - the citation it links to is a Washington Post article which does not contain that fact. Further, if the WP article text is opened for editing, it does not show a Post article at all, but a Scotsman article. As the Post article is the source for a hook fact, it might be worth checking what is going on here. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I think the problem was that i screwed up the tags and had two different refs tagged with <ref name="Scotsman1">. So one of the links was buried beneath another. It should be ok now, i think. The hook is referenced from a BBC article. I re-worded the rain thing, though its no big deal to me if you remove it altogether, it seems like the weather affected attendance on the final day.--Celtus (talk) 06:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Rancho Las Juntas

Created by Emargie (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 21:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Bob Weinstock

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Zooropa (song)

5x expanded by Dream out loud (talk). Self nom at 02:22, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Renalase

Created by Stevenfruitsmaak (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Aquaculture in China

Created by Geronimo20 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 01:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Yishan Yining

Created by Tar-ba-gan (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 00:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Pure Mule

5x expanded by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 22:37, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Article length and date check out. Hook is 201 characters, one over the limit, but I don't think we need to worry. Hook fact is verified. Personally (in case somebody else wants to comment here), I don't have any qualms about the hook or the article's topic. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Irwin Uteritz

Irwin Uteritz

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Atala Masjid, Jaunpur

Main arcade facade, Atala Masjid, Jaunpur

Created by Faizhaider (talk). Nominated by Ekabhishek (talk) at 04:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

There Goes the Neighborhood (TV series)

Created by T (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Wendell Thompson Perkins

5x expanded by WilliamKF (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

  • and . The size checks out. However, I could not get access to the reference to check. AGF would normally play a role, but this is one source and there may be problems. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm concerned about the lack of page numbers given, in addition to the single-source issue. Without page numbers from this book, there's no way to verify content (even if we had access to the book) and the worry about plagiarism is greater. rʨanaɢ /contribs 20:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Giraffe Manor

The Giraffe Manor, Nairobi, Kenya

And there's an accompanying picture (self-taken), but I don't know what the procedure is to suggest the picture as well, so I'll just pop a thumbnail next to this.

Created by Push the button (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. pushthebutton | go on... | push it! 21:51, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Brazilian False Rice Rat

  • ... that it was not realized for 70 years that the Brazilian False Rice Rat was described twice under two different names?
  • Comment: Not sure whether this formulation is right. Other facts about the animal may also be used if needed.

Created/expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

San Francisco Art Association

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Ozzie Cadena

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Laurence Harbor (NJT station)

Created by Mitchazenia (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Virus (wrestler)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Microstoma floccosum

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 07:24, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Nicolas-Joseph Thiéry de Menonville

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 07:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Operation Bribie

5x expanded by Anotherclown (talk). Self nom at 06:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Sorry but that is only possible if the previous version was a copyright violation or otherwise unsuitable to cover the subject. Also, I see no rewriting on your part, your edits were minor compared to the previous version (diff). Regards SoWhy 09:48, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Actually, the user rewrote most of the article, per this version diff and the subsequent edits that followed. However, it is not eligible because of the five day rule. That is the crux of the issue, not that the user didn't do any work on the article. — AustralianRupert (talk) 10:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
  • As AustralianRupert explained, it was rewritten, but it wasn't rewritten in the last 5 days. SoWhy was taking the 1. New rule at WP:Did you know/Article for granted, so he looked back 5 days and said it wasn't rewritten much. Furthermore, the answer to "re-written, not 5x expanded. Does that make it ineligible?" is yes; see F2. Art LaPella (talk) 02:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Jarrett Brown

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 06:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Clayton Hill

  • ... that Clayton Hill, who played the "sweater zombie" in the 1978 horror film Dawn of the Dead, was described by a member of the film's crew as "one of the most convincing zombies of the bunch"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 30

Nellie Dean

Speaker icon1913 recording of "Nellie Dean"

  • ... that according to a 1977 book, the 1905 sentimental ballad "Nellie Dean" "must surely be the song most often sung in pubs during the present century"?

Created by Qwfp (talk). Self nom at 21:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

List of Last Exile episodes

  • Comment: The chess terms are explained at the bottom of each episode summary from multiple sources. Although the original sources are in Japanese, an English version is available at www.lastexiledvd.com under Story→Glossary in the Menu.

5x expanded by Arsonal (talk). Self nom at 21:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Chalma, Malinalco, Mexico State

The church of the sanctuary of Chalma with hills in the background in Chalma, Malinalco, Mexico State

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 16:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

  • I'm probably being a bit nitpicky here, but the bit in the article that supports the hook, The Sanctuary of Chalma is the second most-visited pilgrimage site in Mexico after the Sanctuary of the Virgin of Guadalupe is a bit too close to the reference's statement, it is the second most visited pilgrimage site in Mexico after Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe. If you could reword it, that would be great. Cheers, I' 13:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Better now? --PFHLai (talk) 02:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Howard Park Wines

Created by SpringSummerAutumn (talk). Nominated by Gnangarra (talk) at 02:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

on second thoughts this has the appearance of a "paid for" advert rather than a natural article, Gnangarra 01:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Agree with Gnangarra, this article does not sit right for me and appears at best to have WP:COI issues, if not paid editing. Article's sole argument for notability is its "Western Australia's largest family owned winery". Largest by what measure? Family owned: is that a big deal? I'm unsure I can make a case for deletion (yet), but feel this is not for DYK. –Moondyne 09:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Satpal Singh

Created by Lalit82in (talk). Nominated by Ekabhishek (talk) at 18:30, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Lujan-Fryns syndrome

Created by Rcej (talk). Nominated by Hassocks5489 (talk) at 17:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Length/date of article and hook checks out fine (verified, length), but can we use one that won't make normal readers scratch their heads so much? Readers will want to read the first three articles more than the actual DYK article because they won't know what the heck this is referring to. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

List of skin conditions

5x expanded by Kilbad (talk). Self nom at 20:37, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Farm Town

  • ... that Farm Town is a simulation game that recently became the most popular application on Facebook with 14 million users while still in beta release?

5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 19:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

It has been further expanded to meet the 5x requirement. Mgreason (talk) 15:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Five days ago it had 4,210 characters, it currently has 6,288 characters. Jolly Ω Janner 16:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Wilma Scott Heide

  • ... that Wilma Scott Heide grew NOW to 50,000 members and an annual budget of $750,000 during her four-year term as president, having taken office in 1971 with 3,000 members and spending of $28,000?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Expansion, date and ref verified. The article is given as a single block of text though. It has 4300+ characters so is it not possible to include some section headings to improve its appearance? ≈ Chamal  11:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Climate of south-west England

Created by Jolly Janner (talk). Self nom at 16:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

  • It appears that the Met Office(from which most of the article's references come) thinks that Dorset is in the Southern England area and not South-West England, so perhaps another hook entirely would be better. Long Shrift (talk) 15:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Immune tolerance in pregnancy

location of the placenta

Created by Mikael Häggström (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I like that one too. Mikael Häggström (talk) 06:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Reflections on the Revolution In Europe

Created by Historicist (talk). Self nom, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Psaltoda plaga

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

  • The second part of the suggestion is not mentioned in the article, and that the cicada is one thing called black prince doesn't hook the reader (or me at least). I'd guess that its original Latin name is connected to "silver" which, if correct, would make a more interesting hook, as from the description it isn't at all silvery. (BTW, the phrase "they fly around, mate" is a classic. A bit of Aussie stereotyping for an Aussie bug; I couldn't bring myself to rewrite it). Long Shrift (talk) 15:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
  • The second part does not have to come from that article - there is a whole article on The Black Prince at his own page. Agree it is not an engrossing hook - personally I thought it was cute having an insect and a 14th century English royalty with a synonymous name but there you go. I am too knackered to think of anything tonight. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Afghan Massacre: The Convoy of Death

5x expanded by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Mike Segura

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 13:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Northstar Island

Northstar Island

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Length, date and reference verified. Photo is in the public domain. Haus 04:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Gec Chia

5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 12:18, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

  • It might be intentional but there is no mention of what sport is involved. It is also unclear who later described the shot as a miracle; at the very least you need a "he" in there. Long Shrift (talk) 15:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
  • But "whom he" doesn't make sense ("whom" can't be an object of the clause that follows because "described" already has the direct object "the shot".) I suggest "... knees, and he later ..." or "... knees, who later ..." or "... knees, and Banal later ..." (the latter removes any doubt whether it was Chia or Banal who called the shot a miracle). Art LaPella (talk) 05:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Pierrothito

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 09:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

MOBIDIC

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Lindo lamp

  • ... that unless the museum that has displayed the Lindo lamp for 77 years can raise £300,000 to buy it, the family that owns the lamp will sell it to a private collector?

Created by User:Historicist (talk). Self nom, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Fact is sourced to a dead link, and the hook gives a false sense of certainty (the article only says "It is feared"). Hook length, article date and length look good. Article also uses a blog as a source. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Advanced Placement Statistics

5x expanded by Edge3 (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 29

Old Glory, Texas

  • Comment: Please consider using ths hook on August 9th, the anniversary of the name change. Ref#4 is probably more reliable than Ref#3.

Created by Acntx (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 04:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The Gay Byrne Show

Created by Cargoking (talk). Expanded and nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 02:47, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Portion of hook claiming the show is "a favourite of Irish housewives" appears not to be fully supported by cited source which states "...heard in the mornings by Kenmare housewives who enjoy listening to his Radio 1 show." Kenmare is only one part of Ireland, and the fact that some housewives listen to the show does not make it a favourite among the general population. Beyond that everything looks good (hook length, article, and AGF of reference requiring a subscription to read). --Allen3  13:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Changed. --candle•wicke 14:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Comment That issue has been resolved; length is OK; I'm not sure that the phrasing of the tag is ideal - it rather sounds like the host was a favourite of the housewives, rather than the show. I can't, right now, think of a better phraseology whilst keeping both bits of info though. Sorry if that is picky; I kinda hope somebody might have an idea. If not, I wouldn't object - all looks good.  Chzz  ►  11:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Play & Win (band)

  • ... that the Romanian band Play & Win are among the most successful producers of music in the country, having over 300 melodies registered at the Union of Composers?

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Points of style—it's awkward to say that a plural subject is "one of" something, a "music producer" is not a "producer of music", I'd like to see a comma after "country", "singles" can stand on its own two legs without any help from "music" (but wikilink it, anyway), we know it's Romania already, and there is only one full stop at the end of a sentence. I'd revise thus: ... that the Romanian band Play & Win are among the most successful producers of music in the country, having over 300 singles registered at the Union of Composers? --Milkbreath (talk) 10:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Done. Mario1987 12:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Wait up I've read the original source for the statement. It is apparently reliable (it comes from Pro.fm radio station), however it does not validate the hook. It does indeed say that Play & Win recorded 300 songs, but does not refer to them as singles (meaning that they were probably never released), and certainly does not say anything about this making the band "among the most successful", in fact it says the exact contrary of that. Word by word: "Desi sunt oarecum la inceput de drum trupa Play & Win au pana in prezent peste 300 de melodii inregistrate la uniunea compozitorilor dar sunt multi factori care interzic ca o piesa sa devina hit sau o trupa sa devina cunoscuta." This translates back as: "Although they have more or less just started on their path, Play & Win the band has had up to now registered over 300 melodies with the union of composers, but there are many factors which prevent a song from becoming a hit or a band from becoming well-known." Does the nominator care to explain what's up with that? Also, I can't tell if 300 really is a high number in this context (what's the benchmark?), and the source says nothing about it being high - but even if it is high, assuming that registering many melodies makes one a "most successful" artist is like claiming graphomaniacs are most successful among writers. Dahn (talk) 11:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Aşa e bine Mitică? Mario1987 14:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Heh. Fine irony aside, no - it's not good. Read my post: no source places the number of songs in comparison to their success. In fact, as you can see from the quote above, quite the opposite. Neither is there an indication that the number of songs registered is high by any standards (though it could be, I just don't see the point being made). Also, is it the band, or the bands members separately and individually that are the producers of music? Dahn (talk) 16:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 28

The Soap Myth

Created by Historicist (talk). Self nom at 16:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

  • "2009" for "new"? (to give your hook context when somebody looks it up in the year 3000!) From reading the article, the play appears to be based "around a discussion of the veracity of the evidence" rather than "on the evidence". Long Shrift (talk) 17:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The play is about both the evidence and the debate about the evidence, but I think DKY's work best when short.Historicist (talk) 17:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The hook is "hooky" enough and the article provides the needed detail. One of the advantages of a DYK hook is that it represents a point in time "now", and doesn't require a date or year as would be needed in an article; A DYK hook will be read on a specific day, while an article may be read 991 years from now. A review of the article shows that the hook is supported. Alansohn (talk) 22:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
  • I have returned this article to the queue. The article makes a number of false statements and gives a misleading impression that the Nazis actually made soap out of human fat, which according to at least one of the article's own sources, is a myth discredited by Holocaust scholars. The hook is also inaccurate as Long Shrift noted, the play is not about an examination of the evidence for this myth, the myth is just used a device in the play for exploring attitudes to the Holocaust. The ref. formatting is also a mess. This one can't go to the main page until the various issues have been fixed. Gatoclass (talk) 06:44, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
  • The hook is valid, although, naturally, there could be other hooks. This one has the merit of brevity and being eye-catching without the least inaccuracy. The references were in the linked article on nazi soap production, I have now enhanced the article on the play with some references material on the article on the history of Nazi soap. User:Gatoclass is entirely misunderstands the issue, this is an active historical controversy, not so much over whether limited volumes of soap were produced, as over whether historians of the Holocaust ought to refrain form publishing the evidence of soap production since (largely because it was small-scale and experimental) the evidence for it is weak enough to be open to exploitation by Holocaust deniers claiming that because some survivors once claimed that soap production from human fat was widespread and industrial scale, the entire Holocaust is an exaggeration. This is the controversy that is central to the play, and it is discussed in the article, and in the linked article on soap production, but it is too long for a hook, so I used a hook about another theme of the play.Historicist (talk) 14:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
    ALT!... that The Soap Myth is a new play about the debate over evidence of soap made from human corpses by the Nazis?Historicist (talk) 15:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
That's really not much different. I haven't the energy to deal with this now, but I'll come back tomorrow, take a closer look at the article and suggest some alternatives. Gatoclass (talk) 18:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
How about replacing "about" with "based on" and removing "evidence of" since as the article itself says, evidence is low? ≈ Chamal  02:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, if I may: how does the picture fit in with the hook? If it's attached, a "(pictured)" should be added somewhere, but where? The hook does not mention gas chambers. Should it? Mind you, the link between a picture of the gas chamber and the play (which is what the hook is about) is a bit stylistically awkward either way. Dahn (talk) 08:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
And, yes, let's drop the "new" in "new play". We're supposed to avoid timely references, and we're not writing hooks from a perspective the reader might have. Just say what year it is, and the reader can figure out how new the play is. Dahn (talk) 08:38, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I was going to do some cleaning up of this article and propose an alt hook, unfortunately having come here to get started on it today, I have just realized that Historicist has also recently rewritten the soap made from human corpses article in such a way as to promote the POV that the Nazis actually made soap from human flesh, when in fact most reputable historians have dismissed this notion from lack of evidence. Historicist has achieved this partly by misquoting from sources, for example he quotes historian Robert Spector as stating that the Nazis "did indeed use human fat for the making of soap at Stutthof." The full quote from Spector is as follows:

Whether or not the Nazis used human fat from dead bodies is a point in controversy. However, Feigh, on the basis of evidence obtained through her research, as well as testimony given at the War Crimes Trials, leaves no doubt in her mind that the Nazis did indeed use human fat for the making of soap at Stutthof, and her analysis seems to be sound given the known fact that the SS used everything it could obtain from its prisoners. So Spector only says that someone else's analysis "seems sound", Historicist has completely misquoted him.

Furthermore, Historicist has inserted the phrase on an industrial scale to the previous version of the soap made from human corpses article in such a way as to completely alter the meaning, compare the current version to the previous version. That is a blatant misrepresentation.

There is, quite frankly, a limit to the amount of time I am prepared to spend to fix POV issues in articles submitted to this page. Reviewers are under no obligation to fix articles for their creators, and the fact that Historicist has engaged in blatant misrepresentation of sources to promote a particular POV in these articles is all the more reason to disqualify it. Gatoclass (talk) 10:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The problem is not the hook, because I'm sure an NPOV hook could be found without too much trouble. The problem is that Historicist has slanted both The Soap Myth and the Soap made from human corpses articles to promote the view that the Nazis made soap out of human beings, when the majority of reputable scholars say there is no reliable evidence that they did so. That means, to begin with, that someone would have to go and rewrite both articles to correct the slant before the articles could be promoted, but it's not the responsibility of DYK reviewers to fix articles for their creators. Additionally however, Historicist misquoted from sources and it seems, even outright misrepresented them in order to lend support to his position. We should not be doing anything at this page to encourage such behaviour. Gatoclass (talk) 04:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Piscidia piscipula

Created by Pinethicket (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

-- this article is currently flagged for copyright violations. — CactusWriter | 19:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Porgy and Bess (film)

5x expanded by LiteraryMaven (talk). Self nom at 20:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

  • It seems that about 90% of the original article was deleted for valid reasons cited in the edit summary and on the article discussion page, so I'm not sure if a strict 5x rule applies here. I think this qualifies for DYK. LargoLarry (talk) 13:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
  • I would be inclined to pass this hook per WP:IAR because I have reviewed the two versions of the article and can affirm that nearly none of the text that was present in the original version is present in the current version. Cunard (talk) 19:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
  • But that situation is specifically addressed in the rule; it doesn't create an exception. So if you do pass the hook, please remove the language from F2 that specifically rejects that argument, so future nominators won't need to guess what the real rules are. Art LaPella (talk) 00:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
  • A 3.7x expansion isn't close to 5x, and though the previous version may have been bad, we count prose even from articles that would have been deleted through AfD. As an IAR verify, the article should be stellar, and it's not. The Critical reception section is nothing but quotes from reviews, and might be a violation of our non-free content criteria (not to mention it shouldn't count as prose since it's a block quote). Shubinator (talk) 00:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

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