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READ THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE BEFORE YOU POST A MESSAGE HERE.: This policy is lazily enforced. If you want to attack me due to Misplaced Pages-related work and other stuff, you can do it on your own blog. Use the preview button before you save; it helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. I seriously don't like that. PUT YOUR SIGNATURE AT THE END OF YOUR MESSAGE. Only Filipino Crab mentality and Philippine stalking are welcome by my 3 holy angels. Don't use user warning templates. Ever. Customize your warning messages instead. Put new messages AT THE BOTTOM PART of my talkpage. And I encourage you to speak your mind here. But not always.

Archives

June 28 2007 to January 3 2008 January 3 2008 to February 27 2008 February 28 2008 to September 10 2008

--Florentino floro (talk) 08:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Floro is entitled to display this Yeoman Editor ribbon badge of service (5,230+ edits and one year's+ service)

Archive February 28 2008 to September 10 2008

I am temporarily putting this link, to open the red linked Archive 3--Florentino floro (talk) 11:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

This user seeks adoption by an experienced editor. (Users offering adoption)

--Florentino floro (talk) 13:54, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Please be more succinct, part II

Compare these two edits, which is more straight to the point? This or this? And LOL at the Kobe Bryant mention. –Howard the Duck 16:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

It seems that the mention by the Abs-Cbn reporter-journalist of Kobe Bryant's score was an exaggeration, or out of passion-reporting. As editor it came to my mind as fundamental option, to underscore Keiths' record vis-a-vis Bryant's (even if the game played by Bryant dwarfed or particled Keith's). Why? I asked myself: this is the only moment in Philippine Basketball history. On terse editing, I opted to include most important details even if encyclopedic perfection of terse edit is sacrificed, since, based on my experience, links-reference, in time die their natural death in months or years paving the way for pay-per-view predators of knowledge. BTW, we editors are tainted or painted by our professional, scholastic backgrounds, inter alia, to wit: if you are into sports, you would edit in terse manner; if you are an IT manager, you would edit more on succinct format, but if you are a lawyer or judge, you would not let your edit suffer the loss of essential requisites of this or that. IN FINE, Misplaced Pages is a collaboration of editors (proffesionals, experts or even anonymous pundits and even vandals or ...Misplaced Pages:Welcome anonymous editing, and WP:IMPERFECT.--Florentino floro (talk) 08:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it ironic that on a section entitled "Please be more succinct, part II," you flesh out a long reply? And you haven't even answered my question. The only relevant details in that story are:

• Name of person that broke the record, and the new record
• Name of person that possessed the old record and his record
• Team's opponent when the record was broken.

Kobe, Allan Caidic and all other stuff are irrelevant to the story. There is no national record since the different leagues are on different levels. If that's the case, Barry Bonds didn't break the home run record since Sadaharu Oh still holds it quite firmly if I would add. But they're completely different, since Bonds played at Major League Baseball while Oh played at Nippon Professional Baseball. Comparing their records is incompatible since the manner of which the records were set are in different standards, which also the same for Caidic, Kobe and Agovida.

Also, although many editors screw up, they heed the advice of others. So, next time, please be more succinct. –Howard the Duck 17:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I did answer, and now reply: that your edit was shorter than mine, and I respect editors' edits-contributions, especially, if the article is not within my line or expertise.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Whether it is not within your line of expertise you'd have to ensure brevity in your edits. Not everything goes to Misplaced Pages. Not every news story goes to an article. –Howard the Duck 07:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure, why not. WP:PRESERVE, is an essential ingredient of Misplaced Pages editing policy which teaches, so.--Florentino floro (talk) 10:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

		The Human Rights Barnstar
		I award you this barnstar for your contributions to articles involving Human Rights on Misplaced PagesSusanbryce (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

For your kindness Susanbryce.--Florentino floro (talk) 09:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Legal Question

If the anti-trafficking acts states that there can be "no consent", even if both parties consent, therefore if im correct on this, sex with a prostitute must be Rape. Is this your legal opinion also? I ask you this due to your legal background and suggest a clarification of this is important for the articles, kind regardsSusanbryce (talk) 18:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

You have to obtain a written legal opinion from the DOJ, or if you are in a hurry, call per legal verbal query, or get written opinion from the DOJ's IACAT, Usec. R. Blancaflor, etc.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:35, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Rape In The Philippines

I started this article on Rape in the Philippines awhile ago, and was interested if you would like to have a look at it and see if you can add anything more to it please. http://en.wikipedia.org/Rape_In_The_Philippines kind regardsSusanbryce (talk) 16:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

The most sensational rape in the Philippines is the Maggie dela Riva case (37 SCRA). I will pass over your article.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiCup

Thought you might be interested in this as there's no one from the Philippines. « Diligent Terrier 00:43, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Oops... looks like there already is someone under the Philippines. But you can still join under a different country like I did; I joined under the UK when I'm from the USA. « Diligent Terrier 00:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Vatican City

Done. I chose Vatican City, since this is closer to my heart than Philippines. As closed Catholic, Mary and the Eucharist center our lives, with all due respect to other users here. --Florentino floro (talk) 05:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Userpages

Hi Floro, Your userpage is getting awfully long. It is currently at 127,000 bytes and you seem to be expanding it at a pretty steady rate. I don't know if anyone has talked to you about this yet or not, but there are some policies about what is appropriate on a userpage. You might look at WP:UP (especially WP:UP#NOT), WP:NOT#WEBHOST, WP:NOTBLOG, WP:SOAP. There is no strict length policy, but look around at other user pages to see how long they tend to be. maxsch (talk) 17:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Raison d'être - Userpages' length-philosophy = the editors'-contributors' "Art and Soul."--Florentino floro (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Max has a point... I don't know where you got that nonsense about "art and soul", but your user page is getting to be an assault on the senses. Substantial content that is unrelated to Misplaced Pages should be avoided. TheCoffee (talk) 06:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. Floro's page is elegant and acceptable: it helps us understand his perspective. Algabal (talk)

I find the need to clarify, why I took pains, long hours and days to create my Userpage. First, Florentino Floro's reliable sources are just so few, and journalists worldwide, copied just 5 paragraphs of the 75 pages decision, which allegedly ruled I am psychotic and not insane. Thus, I had to inform all Misplaced Pages editors that what is told or said in Florentino Floro - is what journalists said, and not what is true based on Misplaced Pages approved reliable sources. Second, each line and paragraph of my Userpage, is supported with verifiable links, and I added humor, so that it will not be boring. How? Of course, I copies user pages of about 20 administrators. Third, in my talk pages from Archives 1-3, of more than 100,000 editors and 1,500 administrators, I failed to find more than 3 who would complain about my Userpage creation. I desire, that if readers and editors would read Florentino Floro and find that I edit Misplaced Pages, they will not be afraid of me/my articles / contribution, and since, allegedly since, I had been labeled psychotic. Also, 99% of us, Filipinos are Catholics/Christians, and under our, UK, and USA constitutions, our belief in angels and dwarves are protected by religious freedom. I am careful however on this, since I respect so much, skeptics, atheists, etc. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 11:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

With all due respect

I started my Misplaced Pages:User page on 25 July 2007 At first, after some edits (of my present 6,010+), I slowly learned by copying some parts of Misplaced Pages:administrator's user pages. Then, I opened category of administrators, and 80% of my present user page is sourced from not less than 20 Wiki administrators' user pages. Then, I read the philosophy and policies of Misplaced Pages:User page, vis-a-vis, some editors' and admins' (of 100,000 Wiki editors and 1,500 Wiki admins) messages on this talk pages or on theirs, sharing to me their views on my user page and the policies.

Let me briefly quote some of these: "User:Titopao First, what stays on the user page, stays on the user page. A user may choose to write a biographic user page (with perhaps plenty of userboxes and other stuff that might interest the user), or a user may choose to write a humorous or tongue in cheek entry. My user page is more or less biographic and, while it withholds some information about myself (for good reasons), it's still factual to the best of my knowledge. On the other hand, a user page that is clearly written humorously (however it looks like a "forgery"), needless to say, should be approached with the same light-hearted manner that the user intended it to be, and shouldn't be taken too seriously. You may, for one, decide to write something along the lines of "I had long wanted to win the Nobel Prize in Physics, but it looked like numbers didn't like me and even hated me to death, so I opted to pursue my other love, which is law and letters" and perhaps, with good reason, also include a disclaimer on the top that says you actually intend the user page to be humorous. Or you can write something along the lines of, "I am the handsomest guy in the whole Philippines with the most number of girlfriends in a single hour" and probably add a picture of..hmm, Brad Pitt?? :P"

User:Royalmate1 "Nice userpage! I can see you put alot of time into it. Nice job. RoyalMate1 04:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC) Thanks, for the kind message. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 12:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC) Sure, without images, our user pages would be without any breath. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 11:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC) Well said, images are important in the wiki community and life. Copyright laws can be confusing and can get alot of people into trouble simply because they dont know what theyre doing, annoying on wikipedia since we have to be neutral. Congratulations on your barnstar. Thanks, RoyalMate1 00:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)"

My Philosophy of My Userpage

Basically, I spent times, precious moments, to created my Userpage, since for me, this is my soul and spirit in Misplaced Pages. Let me quote some pertinent portions of Misplaced Pages:User page: "Ownership and editing of pages in the user space ... The Misplaced Pages community is generally tolerant and offers fairly wide latitude in applying these guidelines to regular participants. Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic" may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed Wikipedians with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the encyclopedia. As a tradition, Misplaced Pages offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit.Article content policies such as WP:OR generally do not ... and try to assume good faith that they are merely trying to share information about themselves."

"Users with most of their contribution edits outside their user space should be given more leeway in this regard than users whose edits consist solely or mostly of user space edits. Your userpage is for anything that is compatible with the Misplaced Pages project. Think of it as a way of organizing the work that you are doing on the articles in Misplaced Pages, and also a way of helping other editors to understand with whom they are working. Some people add information about themselves as well, possibly including contact information (email, instant messaging, etc), a photograph, their real name, their location, information about their areas of expertise and interest, likes and dislikes, homepages, and so forth. You can use your user page to help you to use Misplaced Pages more effectively. Another common use is to let people know about your activities on Misplaced Pages, and your opinions about Misplaced Pages. You might want to add quotations that you like, or a picture, or some of your favorite Misplaced Pages articles or images (freely licensed only – see the What may I not have on my user page? section below), or the like. Others may also edit your user page, for instance awarding you a barnstar or leaving other images for you. In the event that your editing privileges on Misplaced Pages are revoked, a notice of this may be placed on your user page. If you want to dual-license your contributions under an additional license or declare them all public domain, you may put a notice to this effect on your user page. Because of the large templates and long category names, some editors move the license templates to a subpage (see the What about user subpages? section below). Whether you include an explicit license statement or not, however, all of your edits on Misplaced Pages are also licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. Many users include mentions of the languages they know (see Misplaced Pages:Babel). You are welcome to include a link to your personal home page, although you should not surround it with any promotional language."

Florentino Floro

While some editors admit even without humor that they are sick with this or that disease, gay or lesbians, etc., all the parts of my User page are aimed to correct, rectify and to tell editors, who I am. Florentino Floro, if read just that, will inform readers that I am psychotic, etc. But, precisely, I submitted Misplaced Pages Wiki links and reliable sources, to inform editors and even article readers, that I am sane, healthy, and had passed all mental tests. Just that, with the hope, that articles and edits I created, if read by readers-researchers, will not be perturbed or mislead by the contents of Florentino Floro. TLDR applies to articles, since readers might instead junk Misplaced Pages and read Britannica. But editors' userpages are designed by Wikipedial policy to inform editors mainly, and readers also, about the contributor. Thanks, for your comments.

At any rate, it behooves that I have to refer this matter of length and content to my parent User:Diligent Terrier, since: the Conclusion states: "After reading through the evidence, opinions, and diffs of the RfC, I have come to the following conclusion. User:Florentino floro is noted to make sure the additions he adds to articles satisfy the guidelines of WP:N. If they don't satisfy WP:N and are trivial additions, do not get annoyed if they are removed, remember that we are building an encyclopedia. I ask that when Florentino makes explanations on talk pages of his opinions or editing patterns, to keep them pithy, and not not write statements that take 10-15 minutes to read (we are volunteers after all). The dispute between User:Maxschmelling and Florentino is very evident, and I strongly urge the two to avoid direct confrontation if they can. While there is no consensus on how problematic the behavior of Florentino floro is, I urge him to take the constructive aspects of his dissenters to heart and try to make himself a better Wikipedian. Lastly, I urge User:Diligent Terrier and Florentino to work together more as adoptee and adopter. I would not like to see this go to the Arbitration Committee, so hopefully we can all become better users from this. Wizardman 23:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)"--Florentino floro (talk) 11:38, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Everyone knows that you have a tendency to write really long rants on talkpages. You also write longer than necessary edits to mainspace pages, and now you are making your userpage much too long as well. Do you see the pattern? The conclusion to the RFC encouraged you to be more brief (and, ironically, you wrote this monster edit right afterward). It would probably be good for you to learn to shorten something. Maybe trying to shorten your userpage would be a good start. maxsch (talk) 18:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Floro's userpage is fine

I believe that Florentino floro's userpage is completely fine, and without reading this entire conversation, I just want to say that I don't see why anything needs to change. I would suggest that the editors who may have been harassing and stalking Floro would get back to building an encyclopedia. The userpage is very nice, and it's nice to read about what other users have done -- that's why we have userpages. « Diligent Terrier 20:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree, it seems that the same users keep trying to find more and more invalid complaints to raise against Florentino Floro. When one fails, they just look for another and keep pressing against him. This is not an accusation of bad faith on the part of these people, just a recommendation that they take more caution in the critiques they make. Algabal (talk) 02:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Florentino floro/Learned Treatise:Legal-Academic Values of Compleat User Page

I created this User Subpage to refute, traverse and contradict Max and Cma's contradictions and allegations.--Florentino floro (talk) 11:00, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Florentino floro

Hey Florentino floro. The RfC on you has been closed and archived. You are asked to read the conclusion established there. Wizardman 23:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your time on this. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

About my "header"

I actually copied it somewhere in Misplaced Pages, but it's all good. And of course, you can use and modify "my" header anytime. -iaNLOPEZ1115 08:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank God, it's all over. Ignore, ignore, ignore all ...Remember, when I chat with you and in my reply emails to you, I never ever talked about Misplaced Pages, and I advised you to concentrate on your entrance exam for Ateneo de Manila or enroll abroad. However, let me say that my 1960's vintage gun is deadlier than your image gun. Can my and your gun really intimidate blue Filipino blue crabs (its only available in Lucena, Alaminos and Negros, my favorite). You need Misplaced Pages humour to survive the Ateneo entrance tests, but if you are in or is an alumni, be afraid, behave, lest you suffer the fate of Ateneo Law School Sec. Arthur Yap who is now in danger of being disowned by Ateneo due to a simple complaint.

Ateneo is no nonsense. All of us Alumni and especially students, are bound by Manuals of Discipline called Students' Handbook. If any of us Ateneans fail to live with the ideals of Ratio Studiorum, I am not saying any of us, here, there is a Jesuit remedy, not RFC, but DISOWNING, for alumni, and EXPULSION for students, or failure to graduate. Here is my proof:Ateneo urged to disown agri chief alumnus over fund scams. I am not afraid to be disowned since I am jobless since July 20, 1999 until today, and I lived in LUX IN DOMINO, the light of the Lord = truth. If you are admitted by the Ateneo as student, I promise that I will not file a complaint against you even if you are accused of being a negligent adopter, lest you be expelled and fail to graduate. I just want to keep your stress off in the entrance exam. There is only one Ateneo: Ateneo de Manila University, Quezon City and Ateneo Law School, for Filipino crabs. Ateneo de Davao is not an alternative, since I cannot be forced to believe it is Ateneo. Please edit this if TLDR.--Florentino floro (talk) 09:24, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Of your 22 adoptees, I could not ask for more (from you) - you gave me the best Wiki wisdom

DiligentTerrier (and friends) :I just desire to thank you for the times you spent for my Wiki learning. If Wiki rules allow, I would rather not graduate, since Wiki adoption is a deeper process than Wiki rules provide. For today, I just want to create a better box like that in Kennedy v. Louisiana, since my article's box Sema v. Comelec is not so sharp as that one (if you have spare time). I asked Filipino editors to help me create and copy Kennedy v. Louisiana Scotus box, but they ignored me, and thus, I copied a Filipino's box.

At any rate, I just want to share to you as my adopter-parent, this raging war which erupted, even in a very fine editor's page. I do not want foreign editors to be involved-perturbed by these 2 editors, since I do ignored them, blatantly. Unlike before, when I re-added what these 2 editors reverted, I opted to do a surprise bulk reverting or re-adding of all my edits reverted by these 2 editors.

In the course of this, I would like to submit to you a terse Memorandum of what I learned from you, as adopter, to wit:

Dead end: Rfc, a booby trap

As veteral trial lawyer for 10 years, I miserably failed to have appreciated your genius and maximum exposure-experience (cf. 9 Archived talk pages, I browsed, with nighmare fear of your diligence, as understatement) (in Misplaced Pages art) of dealing with all kinds of editors, administrators, especially, disruptive-problem contributors. I would bet $ 1 trillion that you never met these 2 (one-of-2-kinds of) Filipino editor/s.

What I learned from you that they will never take away from us

First, you said that I have no evidence to block Max and I stopped and did not persist, since your vast experience, proved, now, that it was exercise in futility to bring these 2 editors in several Misplaced Pages fora. You are 101% correct and I harvested the "jump" of joy which The Count of Monte Cristo failed to devour:

Second, you helped me settle this Wiki war by your wisdom of leading them to the Rfc door, called "Dead end." I quote these:

Third, let it be remembered that I asked your help and asked if I when should I comment on Rfc, you replied: "only when I am asked to." This is the final blow and TKO to these 2. Without any sweat amid long days and posts by these 2 editors, I received kindness from compassionate editors on the Rfc.

--Florentino floro (talk) 09:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Sisterhood

Hi Floro, may I draw your attention to these three edits of yours , , and my subsequent revisions of them , , . My first comment is that when there is already a list in an article, such as the lists of sister cities in both of the cities' articles, there is no need to add a separate section when the pertinent information could be included by simply adding another element to the list. Secondly, you often add the same edit to multiple articles. As I (and others) have said to you before, you should not have to do that. It does not help wikipedia to have multiple articles with redundant information. In fact, it makes it much harder to maintain the encyclopedia. Could you please look at my edits of your edits and try to understand why I made them? Thanks, axschme (talk) 19:38, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

It's your prerogative

Several edits of mine, reverted by you, were in turn, reverted by editors. Example: I viewed this "First in World History" 10-ball on Studio 23 last night for 3 hours. And it is a heartbreaking loss for Wu (13-11). So sad, so unlucky. Vide: 17:45, 5 October 2008 Maxschmelling (Talk | contribs) (5,730 bytes) (→Results: semifinals matches not notable. When there is a winner, include that name) (undo) 22:17, 5 October 2008 SMcCandlish (Talk | contribs) m (6,722 bytes) (Nothing wrong with reporting on an ongoing event. Undid revision 243220672 by Maxschmelling (talk)) (undo) There, see how my edit is artistically cleaned-up by other editors, in my favor, against your revert, for the benefit of researchers. At any rate, your revert is moot and academic, since Wu lost the P 100,000 First prize, I am saddened by the twist of his luck. Remember, in sport Misplaced Pages articles, not only the final result but prelims and semis are notable and edited by thousands of editors.

Misplaced Pages is a community of co-equal editors-administrators. Many articles are start-classes, and are requested to be expanded. In fact, even my created articles are not mine. They were and are being edited and expanded or even trimmed, by community of Misplaced Pages editors. We are just co-equal here. While it is your unceasing judgment call as editor, to daily review all and revert some of my edits, it is your choice, with User:Cma. IN TIME, most of your reverts are in turn deleted or reverted by others, to my edits. And, I don't mind my edits deleted or reverted by no-conflict-of-interest editors, and hard working ones, for Misplaced Pages articles are slowly growing. I decided to let you do your editing, as I respect foreign editors, and for sure, I will have time, later, to en masse review, revise, reverse, modify, amend and/or revert in full, all of your edits-reverts of my contributions, with reasons. Maybe, this month, I will review and revert all your edits, since last year, with Misplaced Pages rules citation, under the guidelines of 3-r revert rules on blocking.

This is how Misplaced Pages works, it is a philosophy. Just wait, and I will post notice to my adopter and some foreign admins, and you will find that all of your reverts of my edits will all be reverted, and you will be happy of the reasons-result. Let other editors revise my edits, to save your precious times. I repeat, please help expand, instead, Philippine Movie articles. It will be more productive on your part. It is an exercise in futility to waste your time on my edits, give chance to Misplaced Pages editors to edit my edits, or post request to comment on the talk pages of the articles you reverted, on my edits. Of course you will not.--Florentino floro (talk) 05:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Featured List contest

Hey Florentino floro, this is IMatthew (talk · contribs), co-coordinator of the WikiCup; just informing you of the Featured List contest, starting this coming Friday. You may want to check it out; it will keep you busy for the time being before the WikiCup starts around January. Thanks for listening! iMatthew (talk) 22:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your message. I added myself in the list and my addition. I hope it is correct, since I am not familiar with the rules, thus, please amend my contribution if incorrect or erratic. I am not so well-versed in Information Technology.--Florentino floro (talk) 05:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for entering. I noticed that you selected three lists that fall under the law topic. Per the rules, you are only allowed to work on one list per topic, so one will need to be changed. -- Scorpion 14:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, also. I respectfully submit that, I will retain this List of Philippines Chief Justices by time in office and I deleted the other 2 (but if the retained is not approved, then one of the other 2 articles created by me, may be instead be entered). List of Philippines Chief Justices by time in office may be patterned after List of United States Chief Justices by time in office; however, there is an existing-related Philippine article on this:Chief Justice of the Philippine Supreme Court, and maybe, before I create it, I will notify our Philippine Tambayan. And in the meantime, I will delete my submitted 2 articles in view of the rules. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

You might want to go back and add your other two lists, the contest began. iMatthew (talk) 11:38, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Done. I joined 2 lists for approval. Thanks for your time and message. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 07:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hi: Ten-ball

I see the trouble and I would care to help. Although I've been on Misplaced Pages for almost two years, the dispute your having with Maxschmelling and SMcChandlish seems quite complicated to deal with.

Whenever I edit on article for updates and then another user changes it, I usually don't take it too seriously especially if it appears that they're trying to correct them. FoxLad (talk) 09:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I respect all editors here, and I do not revert what they do. I just had to explain, since a co-Filipino wanted me blocked via stalking. As simple as that. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 09:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

2008 Thai political crisis

Is there a reason you aren't adding new sections to the bottom of the article? Chronology is pretty messed up right now (among other things). --Paul_012 14:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I wanted to add a new sub-section, since this is the first time in world history, and I failed to see the video, when a Head of State physically and literally jumped over the fence: "Thai PM jumps fence to flee protesters." As Filipino, let me share to you, this: our country became a banana Republic due to cursed political instability: non-violent EDSA Revolution of 2001 and 1986 People Power Revolution, where rosary-prayers were used, but history adjudged as evil and favored the politicians and made us jobless. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, as Asian Iron Lady, triumphantly blasted all coup attempts and Philippine political crisis, since 2001. In this regard, I cannot understand why Thailand had to suffer so long, many are injured and dying. For this reason, when I had contributed to this Thai article, I would rather hold my hats-off to better Thailand Wikipedians to make judgmental call-edits on how to improve, expand and clean-up, if ever, this article, in view of their-your country's unique political development, which, I had never witnessed as lawyer, judge and Wikipedian editor. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Here you go

Hi, you looked hungry so I thought you might like some roast beef, inter alia. TheCoffee (talk) 08:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, yes. Thanks. And since you have lots of vegies in your province, you can, as I do buy Armour roast beef, and mix it with fresh vegetables. Great cuisine while you watch PBA. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 09:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Hultman-Chapman murder case

Nice work. You might consider using User:Mr.Z-man/refToolbar.--Lenticel 23:32, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, for you tip. In my stay here since July 2007, I noticed that learned (in IT) Wikipedians (based on their User Pages) prefer User:Mr.Z-man/refToolbar - Template:Cite web - rather than, what I use, the simple ref ref - example http://ph.news.yahoo.com/afp/20081009/tls-vatican-pope-history-wwii-jews-aeafa1b.html yahoo.com, 50 years on, Nazi-era pope stirs controversy. I found the former, when my bio Florentino Floro was re-written by User:FisherQueen 02:09, 1 July 2007.

In this regard, I ask your and many Wikipedians deep understanding: I only learned PC and Internet by May, 2006 when I was Googled on April 7, 2006. You would not believe, that unlike 2 years old (here beside me in Internet Cafe) who play PC games, during our times, 1960-1999, I never ever had a chance to use PC. Not even one of the Philippine Tagaytay Judges knew PC; only 5% of Judges now, comprehends PC/Internet; I personally saw Romeo Callejo, Sr. having used manual typewriter and Angelina Sandoval-Gutierrez, a great pianist, used pencil and yellow pad to draft decisions. I am so afraid (that due to our present Rfc), that, if I would make lazy mistakes in filling the blanks in Template:Cite web, I might get into another trouble.

Honestly, I would find difficulty with the tool bar, hence, I opted to use the easier Misplaced Pages simple reference-footnote - tailor-made for us non-IT editors. Admittedly, this has lots of disadvantages. But I believe, that, fundamentally, it has some legal and academic advantages. Why? First, if an "amateur" or not expert in the field, like, of law, science, or medicine editor, uses - Template:Cite web, and would commit mistakes in filling up the blanks, then, if a researcher who is tired, would open the edit, and would not scrutinize the contents, he might end up submitting a wrong reference. Second, and I found "the advantage" of the reference I use - simply, this: even if links die later on, called dead links, due to predators called pay-per-view merchants, they retain the contents of their basic URL (Vide, judge floro has 1 - 10 of 52,200 for judge floro (About) - 0.77 s |, and several URL's about my story are now dead links). But, even a dead link, when inspected, reveals, the essential ingredients for research, legal or medical - a) the dead URL states - yahoo, the date, the subject, that's all and b) there is no danger that would be caused by an amateur Wiki editor. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Contest Invitation

Hello there!

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The contest is designed to provide users with a challenge while still having fun! This month's contest is focused on Movember, a month designed to to raise awareness and funds for men's health issues, such as prostate cancer and depression in Australia and New Zealand.

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Thanks for the message. I will have to read the rules on this. Seems, Filipinos like us do not on the average have or grow beards or mustaches. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:53, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Gun etc

Lose the gun in your message box, please. And you might consider making the tone a bit friendlier. I came here with the intention of saying something nice about one of your edits, but that messagebox changed my whole attitude. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 17:00, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikicookie

User:Florentino floro has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!

Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Oh hi! Thanks for your message. I edited on this, since I was amazed how philanthropy can make this world a better planet to live in. While the study was made on a mouse, then, and in the near future, man's spinal cord by mapping, may tell more of the mysteries of our existence. Please feel free to amend, modify, revise and correct any of my edits, since, we editors aim to make this online book a better thing for our future .... for researchers, readers and scholars. BTW, here in the Philippines, Misplaced Pages was, for the first time since I joined on July 2007, down, out, or off line. I wonder how you were able to edit yesterday; I myself failed to edit, even in the evening, it was still offline. Thanks for your visit and edit.

On my user page, the gun,- well, it is humor and memorable treasure. I had used the gun for bird hunting in 1960's when there was no law on conservation and there were lots of wild pigeons. The gun does not function and is a collection item. It was used last 1980's for hunting birds, and since then, it could not be fired due to rusts. Hoping for your kind understanding, on this. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I changed the gun and caught the bird or rather peacock, instead, for yeah. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 07:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Hugo Black

Dear Florentino floro Saw your addition on Freedom of religion. Everson quote. That is a really good quote, but it is long. I wonder if it would be better to do s short summary, and put the quote in Wikiquote, instead (in addition to a summary). We really need in Wikiquote a lot of good Hugo Black logia. Take a look at Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court William O. Douglas and click on the Wikiquote for him. Justice Black is very quotable, and we need something similar in WikiQuote, IMHO. Just a mild suggestion. Not a command. What do you think? Best regards.7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC) Stan

Oh, thanks for your message and visit. Please do feel free to trim/shorten my edit. I was invited to contribute to WikiNews, and now on Wikiquote, but I find it so difficult to be a News and quote editor because of time and pressures. I am quite happy to share my wisdom here. But I thank you for your suggestions.

I added the Hugo Black quote, when, here in the Philippines (CNN cable), Obama said: "And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, xxx to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of our world our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, xxx." Obama (I Have a Dream), echoed King, Jr.s' 1963 advocacy. Obama, Black and King, Jr. - are the greatest gift, in my life. Since the Supreme Court of the United States, created under the Judiciary Act of 1789, convened for the first time on February 2, 1790, and since our Supreme Court of the Philippines was created on June 11, 1901, by Act No. 136, the Judiciary Law of the Second Philippine Commission, and since our first Philippine Chief Justice Cayetano Arellano assumed office on June 11, 1901, our Philippine courts and yours never punished a magistrate by the supreme penalty of separations from service: due to religious beliefs and alleged consultation of mystic and healing dwarves.

- William W. Bedsworth

Since I studied Jesuit's philosophy and law (Ateneo de Manila University, 1971-1974, 1978-1982), I was never awed by any magistrate's ruling or judgment, than Hugo Black's immortal "ratio decidendi" - No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs. I lost my job, and now, I am jobless, because my own country's Justices punished me, since 8 of them were medically operated amid my dire prophecies, as Catholic. King, Jr. fought racial and civil rights discrimination because of color, but no African slave, judge or public servant like Condoleeza Rice were punished because of atheism or christian credo. I and only I was persecuted amid Hugo Black's immortal quote-ponencia. Obama gave me hope, that, IN TIME, in a future but certain moment of our destinies, judges and slaves will never be punished because of beliefs or disbeliefs. Obama erased color, but Obama might have not seen the pain of punishment due to religious beliefs. Witches were burned in the Middle ages-Inquisition, but King, Jr.s-Obama's times never saw witnessed the pain, my pain. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 08:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Category:Humor

ITN

On 12 November, 2008, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article(s) Sesheshet, which you helped update. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

--Spencer 22:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Spencer, thanks for this ITN note, for your message and visit. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 05:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Reverts

Hi Floro, I see that yesterday you reverted a large number of my old edits of your edits (at least 18 wikipedia pages that I edited in April). I consider what you are doing edit warring, and I am asking you to stop. All of the edits in question (starting from this edit of the Hornbill page) are unnecessary. I provided reasons for my edits, and since April, no one has thought to put the content you originally added back in these articles. That should tell you that it was not notable content. The RFC on your conduct concluded with a statement (see here) that asked you not to be annoyed when people revert your edits. Please believe me when I say that I honestly want for you to become a better editor, and I would like for you to learn from my edits of your edits. However, if you refuse to learn and you continue to revert my edits, I will seek to have you blocked. xschm (talk) 05:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Complaint

Please do not threaten me to be blocked, since, you are never prevented from filing the proper Misplaced Pages procedure on this, and I reserve my right to submit hard evidence against your baseless accusations. I request that you, please, desist from stalking my daily edits, as you did, since September 25. I filed the proper preliminary complaint against you. Please be guided accordingly.--Florentino floro (talk) 08:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Florentino floro. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. xschm (talk) 18:00, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I filed forthwith a formal complaint to block User:Maxschmelling

--Florentino floro (talk) 05:22, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Please do not use wording that shows a bias

Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Misplaced Pages's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 05:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, for the message. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 05:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

PS: Sorry for the template, I didn't notice until after I had left it that you have a notice at the top of this page about your preference against templated notices. Had I read that request of yours first, I would've customized it (or at least copy/pasted only the relevant parts). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 06:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for your kind understanding. It is just that my adopter-parent User:Diligent Terrier had been so busy and was off since September 30, 2008. I had nowhere to go. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

Since, my adopter is offline since September 30, then I desire to be adopted by a non-Filipino adopter. --Florentino floro (talk) 07:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

This user seeks adoption by an experienced editor. (Users offering adoption)

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That's fine, but you should not place this template on other users' talk pages. Regards SoWhy 10:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, my error. And thanks for putting the template upon my User Page. Previously, I did not commit this mistake, but due to hurry, I copy pasted the template in the adopters talk pages. Thanks so much. And can you please adopt me? Hoping so. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 05:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Outing

See WP:OUTING - if you write anything about another editor's real life existence that he/she has not revealed themselves on Misplaced Pages, you will be blocked immediately. dougweller (talk) 08:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, for the message. With all due respect, may I please explain, that I had not written anything personal, since we Filipino editors, are included in the Category:Filipino Wikipedians. Now, User:Cma states, as I also stated that he and I, respectively "and is also an alumnus of Rizal's school, the Ateneo de Manila University.:(Vide his and my User page). Then, I myself had my blog in my page as public, and . By culture, we Filipinos, call each other by our personal names, like me, Floro, Jun, and by his blog, Cma indicated his name. In good faith, I mentioned these Ateneo de Manila University since it is both published, nothing personal but even an honor for both of us, due to it being a prestigious school. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 09:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

November 2008

Thanks for the message. Before I consider whether to appeal or or not, is the block, for indefinite period, meaning no date, no days? It says, from editing for a period of until edtior agrees to stop outing other editors|temporarily blocked. Can you please explain to me, until when is the block? Regards. --Florentino floro (talk) 06:35, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Appeal to unblock and to submit reasons

Pursuant to the above message and template, I am appealing the block and may I please submit the reason. Accordingly, I hereby copy paste the template.

Florentino floro (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

your reason here --Florentino floro (talk) 06:49, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You need to state a reason why you wished to be unblocked. You don't need permission to do so; however, do note that continued use of the unblock template after you are declined multiple times may lead to your user talk page being fully protected. And as to your question, you are blocked indefinitely, meaning that your block is effectively for an infinite duration. Given your conduct, it is doubtful that you will be unblocked, and I highly recommend you apologize for your actions and promise never to repeat them if you want any chance of your unblock appeal being accepted. — sephiroth bcr 07:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Me having problem with wiki

Idk, i am paranoid. When I am logged out, Wiki seems to be working good. But the moment I log in, there seems to be a problem with the pages I am visiting. Something to do with the skin, but no, I am in no doubt it has nothing to do with the skin. When I edit pages, there seems to have a problem too, my tools in editing is missing. Do you have the same problem as I do? I tried logging in at our office, it is the same, the page appear to be not organized. I tried logging in at my house, it is still the same. Do you have the same problem as I do or am I the only one? Have a nice day! Axxand (talk) 06:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I had fixed the problem. Sorry for the bother! Axxand (talk) 08:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hi

Thank you, Sir Floro. --Efe (talk) 08:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your help

I can't do it since i'm either busy or I don't have time. Worse, I'm (kinda) expelled from my school. -iaNLOPEZ1115 11:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa

Florentino floro, thank you very much for participating in my Rfa, which was successful with 80 Support, 5 Oppose, 6 Neutral. The comments were overwhelming, and hopefully I can live up to the expectation of the community. I would also like to thank my nominator Realist and my co-nom Orane (talk), and special mention to Acalamari and Lenticel for the kindness from the start. Regards, Efe

--Efe (talk) 09:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Message for EdJohnston and thanks

Dear EdJohnston. Thanks for your comment. I write hereat to send you this message, since I cannot edit elsewhere, for I am blocked indefinitely. I stress that I never used IP anonymous address, since I dedicated my life to truth and I hate secrecy. I live in truth and the light. I had seen this comment on the ANI, which I quote here:

Florentino floro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is currently blocked just for personal attacks and harassment. He may yet achieve a well-formed unblock request and persuade an admin to consider it. If this happens, I suggest that anyone who is tempted to grant it return to ANI to get comments. The multi-year problems with the quality of his editing should be allowed to influence the unblock decision. EdJohnston (talk) 03:45, 20 November 2008 (UTC)03:45, 20 November 2008 (hist) (diff) Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents ‎ (→Query III - Can our block petitions be better submitted to the Arbitration Committee?: Suggest that his unblock request, if any, be brought back to ANI for comment)

I cannot yet file another appeal for unblock, since, I have yet to ask the blocking administrator the so-called details or "Bill of Particulars" of harrassment and personal attack-posting of personal information from the time I was warned on, to the time I was blocked

Here:

• Time I was warned:"See WP:OUTING - if you write anything about another editor's real life existence that he/she has not revealed themselves on Misplaced Pages, you will be blocked immediately. dougweller (talk) 08:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)"
• Time I was blocked - 06:29, 19 November 2008 (UTC) I was blocked since the blocking administrator ruled using this: "Posting another person's personal information (legal name, date of birth, social security number, home or workplace address, telephone number, email address, or other contact information, regardless of whether or not the information is actually correct) is harassment, unless that editor voluntarily posts this information, or links to this information, on Misplaced Pages themselves. Unless unintentional and non-malicious (for example, where Wikipedians know each other off-site and may inadvertently post personal information, such as using the other person's real name in discussions), attempted outing is grounds for an immediate block."

Relevant rule and policy

"Harassment of other Wikipedians in forums not controlled by the Wikimedia Foundation creates doubt as to whether an editor's on-wiki actions are conducted in good faith. Off-wiki harassment can and will be regarded as an aggravating factor by administrators and is admissible evidence in the dispute-resolution process, including Arbitration cases. In some cases, the evidence will be submitted by private email. As is the case with on-wiki harassment, off-wiki harassment can be grounds for blocking, and in extreme cases, banning. Off-wiki privacy violations shall be dealt with particularly severely. Harassment of other Wikipedians through the use of external links is considered equivalent to the posting of personal attacks on Misplaced Pages.

I quoted this, since, I will submit here, as evidence, a link, which will prove that I, myself was subject of a Filipino editor's blog - off-wiki harassment, for consideration by the new unblocking administrator.

Tip and Share of Widom, my Misplaced Pages Legacy

I had never contributed by anonymous IP address. However, I previously contributed not less than 1,000 very good articles to Misplaced Pages, including not less than 112,000 contructive edits, using another-other usernames and I retired several times. Yes, not less than 12 user-names, since 2005.

Revelation

I first contributed on 2005, using my first User Name. I never revealed any info about myself, but I displayed my email (one of my 50 emails). Why? My agenda here, until today, is to create articles and edit articles which are part of my mission and vision. Upon reaching about 10,000 edits, I retired. Why? Since, I would be flooded with talk pages messages' requests which perturbed my concentration to do my work in my list of to-edits. \

• Thus, after I reached the point of being again and again bombarded with messages, I would retire, and seriatim, I would again register a new User Name. Thousands of editors and admins had repeatedly asked me to reveal my identity. But I declined, since this will only disturb my editing.
• I had never been banned, and I repeat, I never ever divulged my legal or even nickname, since, I knew for a fact that when an editor reveals his particulars, and identified, he or she is open to personal attacks. I had never used 2 user names at one time. I retired 12 times. After I contributed 112,000 edits, and after Florentino Floro became world-famous on April 7, 2006, I started to reveal my identity using this present and only username. I desire to leave a legacy in Misplaced Pages, since, future researchers and jurists would use my articles created and expanded, saving lots of money from stores and time from libraries. I write in riddles and in cryptology. You know that. I am sincere, honest and I love only truth. I tried my best to keep secret, my religion Catholicism since I love atheists and skeptics here. It is just that my predictions painfully affected Filipinos and just that. I cannot blame them, since I was born gifted.

There is no editor of the 2 million editors here and 1,600 administrators who can even equal or rival my sufferings, pains, and trials amid my immortality, to make Misplaced Pages a better world library and book. I do not boast. I was murdered 3 times and physically I was not hurt. I faced death many times but it escaped. I debunked and threw psychic phenomena on 2007 since I rose to the level of St. Paul's gifts of healing, prophecy and bilocation, etc. Yes, I am the angel of death; this is not a claim amid false beliefs of reincarnation, which I do respect. Misplaced Pages and almost all UK, USA and Philippine laws protect religious beliefs. I cannot be punished for believing that I annihilate and can move physically the other editor or others even at the other side of this planet ... I do not claim this phenomena, but many had admitted and asked apology to me, in some of the 140 forums I joined.

For this reason, I attracted so many enemies. But I concentrate on the truth and I ignored these. In fact, when the trouble began between me, Max, Cma and The Coffee, inter alia, adoption was suggested. Yes, it was a humiliation to me, since I am the most excellent Wikipedian ever who had taught many editors here in the past via my 12 user names that retired with legacy but were never identified. I will not say whether I used secretaries or devised my gifts. I thank all of you who had loved my editing amid the fact that often, I had had to intentionally make grammatical and spelling errors etc. to make it appear that I am not a very good editor who never created a featured article, nor had even earlier retired 12 times in Misplaced Pages.

Adoption by non-Filipino

In the adoption notice, I specified that I do not want any Filipino adopter to adopt me, since, I predicted the time and date I will be blocked here. I cannot reveal at that time, that my reason, is that I do not want any Filipino administrator to block me, and I don't mind if foreigner admins would block me. I recited, recite and prayed, pray for one full hour Psalm 109 and 73 midnights and 3 am, daily, since, 2007; this is biblical curse or putting "stain in the blood" up to the 4th generation upon the loved ones of any and all those who in any manner had done injustice to myself or to any of my writings, acts, and the like. I am a prophet. I had been born at the time of the angels; I am LUIS, the King of kings of elementals. My legal name is Florentino V. Floro, Jr. as I stated here and in Philippine laws. But my true name is Angel of Death- LUIS. I am immortal.

Style of editing

In the 112,000 edits, my addition is so simple: a) 2-3 links, like Reuters, BBC, AFP, MSN, CNN, etc. b) the most notable and top of the day encyclopedic event the world researchers do focus upon; terse, succinct and containing all the essential ingredients and critical facts; c) I never revert, since there are patrollers here d) I do not keep a watchlist, since creators of articles patrol their own, 60% stats speaking. Perfect grammar, no spelling error, and wikified, except that my present blocked user name, intentionally adjusted my editing style to just quality and not supreme as I did for the 112,000 edits.

Nate Silver and Rush Forum

My User Page with tons of world famous links prove that I could do this 112,000 edits. I bilocate and physically move any editor here in Misplaced Pages, in the real sense, virtual reality. Nate Silver was famous but I was asked to evaporate by bilocation to let baseball spreadsheet be ... in Rush Forum, I created the legendary 72,000 views, 28 pages thread, since, tons of members discovered the minute details of even the number of the html 2112 and 1300, etc.

I still need time to respond to a) admin Efe, and my b) past adopter User:Ianlopez1115 and to send here messages and queries for User:Dougweller and User:Sephiroth BCR, blocking admin

On whether I will withdraw my first appeal, and/or to file another appeal with reasons, I need time, since I am considering matters, including the grounds, reasons and evidence. I do have confidential evidence on unblocking, so simple, but I must protect this evidence. What is important, is, at the moment, I shared my knowledge on how to let other editors work in Misplaced Pages without being annoyed by other editors.

Statement of Faith and Respect to the non-Filipino blocking editor and declining editor

I urge all Wikipedians to respect the process and not to attack or to get angry to blocking admins, since they work and contribute. My blocking was pre-destined and expected amid 2 warnings I received to have retired. But I chose to be blocked since I knew the facts and I accept my destiny. I will later submit evidence on this, and I repeat, I respect the process.--Florentino floro (talk) 10:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Adoption

Hey Floro, I will be able to complete your request, but due to circumstances outside of the project that would have to wait until the second week of December. In the meanwhile, I will send a message to my mentor, Tony Santiago, to see if he could help you with any concerns that may appear during my inactivity, cheers. - Caribbean~H.Q. 18:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, for your message. I am certain, there is a time for everything, and we will have to wait for the opportune time. I accept your offer to adopt me, and if the rules allow, I hereby accept and desire that I be adopted by you and your mentor. Parenthetically, I desire also, that I will be able to communicate with you via email, in view of the sensitivity of the matter. If it is possible, please, indicate, how I can email you in confidence, if the rules allow. Further, please enlighten me, if there is a time limit to file the appeal to unblock. I need time on this, in view of the complicated process and preparation of evidence.

• "There are many ways to skin a cat." This is a famous phrase of a respondent who caused my 69 months preventive suspension by the Supreme Court of the Philippines from July 20,199 to April 7, 2006, when I was Googled.

Regards. --Florentino floro (talk) 13:50, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Help

I'd like to try to help. Could you explain your perspective on why you were blocked, and can you think of anything you could do to remedy the concerns that led to the block? Everyking (talk) 09:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC) I'd like to try to help. Could you explain your perspective on why you were blocked, and can you think of anything you could do to remedy the concerns that led to the block? Everyking (talk) 09:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your kindness. I could hardly explain the critical facts/reasons of blocking, since, if you read my rather long discussions above, it appears that, I still have to ask the blocking administrator, the details (terse facts of how, what, when, where, circumstances, from the very short time of about 1 day and a half, I had been warned not to add in my edits, the legal name and age of User:Cma, until the time I was blocked).

Unfortunately, I cannot find the links of the ANI. I will have to prepare a rather terse but good argument for the appeal. Note that when I posted the template, instead of submitting the reason as mandated by template, I asked for time to submit the reasons or grounds, hence, automatically, the declining administrator denied my 1st appeal. I know the rules, and that resulted to outright dismissal of the first appeal; but I can file another appeal, provided, I will not abuse the rules on multiple appeals.

If you please, I need to email you in confidence, on how you can help me. There is a process amid your vast experiences as administrator. All I wrote above are true and correct in all honesty amid the incredibility of some of my allegations. I cannot, however, reveal here some sensitive informations, which, might prejudice or affect the non-Wiki or off-Wiki processes that I had contemplated or had begun in utter secrecy to protect the sanctity of the processes, Wiki, wise or otherwise. Hoping you will trust me to convey my messages to you by email (or you can create a new email just for this). A final note for this Sunday - since I was born, my philosophy is just to look at the good aspects of the other person, and to disregard or ignore the negatives. I concentrate on my work, and I do IGNORE all negatives. People fall in the traps or nice works they erect to put down a good worker, editor or personal. Karma is mathematically accurate IN TIME, while curse is supreme and has no boundaries. I desire that you read between the lines. Advance Merry Xmas. --Florentino floro (talk) 13:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Insert footnote text here

• Wikipedians seeking to be adopted in Adopt-a-user