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Meetups have so far been held in fifteen areas in the Philippines:

• Catarman (Northern Samar)
• Guiuan (Eastern Samar)
• Bacolod
• Borongan (Eastern Samar)
• Calbayog (Samar)
• Catbalogan (Samar)
• Cavite
• Cebu
• Lingayen (Pangasinan)
• Manila (Metro Manila)
• Naga (Camarines Sur)
• Palo (Leyte)
• Tacloban (Leyte)
• Vigan (Ilocos Sur)
• Virac (Catanduanes)

Interactive events

• Chat via Chatroll
• Group Chat via RumbleTalk
• Web stream via Livestream

See also

• Misplaced Pages:Tambayan Philippines
• Wikimedia Philippines
• PhilWiki Community

External Link

• Meetup page of Waray Misplaced Pages

Philippine eagle

Expert on this subject might want to take a look at this article. I think it copies heavily from one of its referenced site.Kleomarlo (talk) 11:43, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Just rewrite then. I'll rewrite this on Wednesday. Feel free to edit.--Jondel (talk) 10:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Achievements

I would like to congratulate the untiring efforts of the Philippine wikipedia enthusiasts for making:

• 20,000 articles in Tagalog
• 35,000 articles in Cebuano.
• More than 6,000 articles in Kapampangan.
• 1,000 artcles in Bikolano.
• More than 500 words in Tagalog Wiktionary.
• More than 400 pages in Tagalog Wikibooks.

May we grow further and thank you for making Misplaced Pages the 7th Top Website in the Philippines. --Exec8 (talk) 22:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations to all for this great achievement. I think it's high time for the next phase of the Philippine wikipedias (especially the Tagalog and Cebuano wikipedia versions) to come in - that is improving its content until a significant number of its articles (at least 10-15%) would reach Good article and Featured article status. As I have observed, both the Tagalog and Cebuano wikipedias does not have a built-in quality rating system for its article, except that they have Featured articles (15 - Tagalog wikipedia or 0.075% of the total and 19 - Cebuano wikipedia or 0.05% of the total). This means that we are making more and more stub articles and churning out lesser high quality articles. So what is the direction of these Philippine-language wikipedias (and for the rest of the Philippine wikipedias)? Quality or quantity? -- Kleomarlo (talk) 07:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Indonesia Approved

Good news for our neighbors: foundation:Resolution:Approval of Wikimedia Indonesia --Nino Gonzales (talk) 09:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, let's make sure that we won't go the way of Wikimedia UK when we finally organize. --seav (talk) 14:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

What Wikimedia UK did? --bluemask 03:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I am also intrigued with what Wikimedia UK has done. Care to storytell? Axxand (talk) 03:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Read this Signpost article: Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2008-09-08/Wikimedia UK --seav (talk) 12:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

It seems that their worst obstacle came from banking so we should be careful with what we choose to deposit to.-Lenticel 01:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

There was a consensus among the members of WMPH who discussed the issue of capital during the formation of the Articles of Incorporation to deposit to Banco de Oro. However, Landbank and BPI were also considered. The choice of a bank isn't much of a problem for us; our problem is getting the paperwork (and money) done to actually make that account. --Sky Harbor 03:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

So where do we go from here? --Exec8 (talk) 23:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Uhh...we need to iron out the kinks in the By-laws, raise another P5000, get more members involved and get those who signed up involved more and meet again. If I remember the By-laws comments on SEC guidelines pertaining to videoconferencing or telephone conferencing, Internet conferencing should count also per those guidelines (that resolves the meeting issue). Our general meeting now is the annual convention. Seriously, we can do this. --Sky Harbor 01:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Filipino American Immigration

Anyone want to take a look at this article? It does look like an essay and might be a copyvio.--Lenticel 00:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

It needs a rewrite; the whole article seems to be plagiarised or copy-pasted from some source... Blake Gripling (talk) 01:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't look like a copyvio to me, but the snippets I looked at were it is pretty close to the source mentioned in the article (see here). -- Boracay Bill (talk) 18:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I think we should redirect this to Filipino_American#Immigration which is concise, non-essay and have inline sources. What do you think?--Lenticel 01:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree on that. *redirects page* Blake Gripling (talk) 23:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Core articles

I've created a Tambayan subpage called Core articles. I've listed what I feel are the top 100 most important Philippine-related articles. It is basically the Tambayan equivalent of WP:CORE and these articles are what we should lean towards in improving. If we can get most articles here into Good article quality and the rest into at least B-class quality, then we can probably distribute these articles as a mini Philippine encyclopedia! It would be greater still if corresponding articles are found in all the other Philippine-language Wikipedias (and can then be included into the mini encyclopedia). I think distributing such an encyclopedia would be one excellent activity Wikimedia Philippines can do. don't you think?

So I'm requesting that all of you peruse the list, edit at will, and talk about the contents of the list in the talk page so that we can get consensus as to what set of articles deserve to be included into the top 100. --seav (talk) 14:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I redirected the Moro secessionist movements article to Islamic insurgency in the Philippines. However, that article redirects to Insurgency in the Philippines, which includes both the Islamic and Communist insurgencies in the Philippines. Someone should split the Islamic insurgency (ASG, MILF) from the Communist insurgency (CPP-NPA). --Sky Harbor 03:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

This is a great idea so that we can focus our attention on improving the articles most relevant to our country. -- Kleomarlo (talk) 09:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Aquino_time.jpg up for deletion by Damiens.rf

Please see the discussion to see why this is not being deleted. --Exec8 (talk) 23:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

It's already deleted. Starczamora (talk) 15:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Map plagiarism by ABS-CBN?

OK, so is it me, or am I seeing something familiar whenever I watch the News Patrol on ABS-CBN? As I peeked at the TV during the break of I Love Betty La Fea, the breaking news showed up, and an incident involving an aircraft accident flashed right in front of me. When I looked at the map showing the crash site, it looked eerily familiar - very, very similar in style to this one by TheCoffee:

I dunno, but will it qualify as a case of plagiarism, since they seem to have just taken it without permission from us? If we're trying hard to abide by their copyright rules (like NOT uploading straight rips of Wowowee on Youtube, like in the case of some Filipinos out there who don't seem to care), then why can't these guys get even and give us proper credit for it? Blake Gripling (talk) 13:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I found this discussion in the archives. _{Man, I really need to sleep now.}--Lenticel 13:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Tsk... they never learn. And I thought Rated K had to pay P400,000 for a image from the Internet that they have used? Starczamora (talk) 14:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I am not fond of ABS-CBN, nor I want to defend them in any way. By the way, the image is licensed by GFDL, meaning, anyone (including ABS-CBN or GMA) can make use of that image freely. Chitetskoy (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 08:43, 14 November 2008 (UTC).

@Chitetskoy: There are still requirements. GFDL states that the original authors must be given. A simple "Courtesy of Misplaced Pages" is, IMO, suffice to satisfy the requirement. ABS-CBN does not even acknowledge the source. --bluemask 08:48, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

If I'm right, ABS-CBN is not even the only one that uses Misplaced Pages maps without credit in news reports. I saw a few incidences on GMA, and once on IBC.(Yes, even the government, who gave us the problem of Section 176 of the IPCP, does not give credit to Misplaced Pages maps they get for the sake of news reports.) --Sky Harbor 15:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Net 25 uses it too. –Howard the Duck 02:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

And so does ANC (ABS-CBN owned cable news channel). I've noticed it on a news about Maguindanao just two weeks ago. — Felipe Aira 05:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that ABS-CBN had always using Misplaced Pages materials without permission from Misplaced Pages. That's the another violation of ABS-CBN not only to the copyright of Misplaced Pages but also to the Intellectual Code of the Philippines. ABS-CBN must be sued for these violations.--Joseph Solis in Australia (talk) 13:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Yup, and this is not the first time ABS ran afoul of WP, let alone us tambays. Check Archive 17 Thread 59. --Eaglestorm (talk) 13:43, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Most of the incidences involving the media's use of Misplaced Pages maps trace back to ABS-CBN. However, it's not just the media who use the maps without permission...even LGUs too! --Sky Harbor 02:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Contact the station regarding this issue, anyone? Blake Gripling (talk) 02:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

These violations made by the TV stations in the Philippines (commercial or government TV stations) must be stopped through low court injunction so that these television stations would stop using Misplaced Pages materials without credits. For God sake, Government stations and LGU itself also uses Misplaced Pages materials without credit means that they violate also R.A 8293.--Joseph Solis in Australia (talk) 10:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

And who will sue on the behalf of Wikimedia and the images' authors? Perhaps when Wikimedia Philippines is already established, the chapter could make this as one of their focuses? It is the chapters' mission to promote Wikimedia, I believe this is part of promoting, protecting, protecting it's contributors. But maybe not sue first, but Wikimedia Philippines would only communicate on Wikimedia's behalf. If ever that we should plan to represent Wikimedia, we should get permission first since the chapters are only to promote not to represent. Yet this would be a plus point for the chapter when it gets established since this is newsworthy. People read/watch news, and know about us if that's the case. — Felipe Aira 10:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Felipe, What if the media outlets would not heard us?--Joseph Solis in Australia (talk) 11:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Efe

Hello fellow tambays. We need to give our opinions here.--Lenticel 00:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Support indeed. Haha. How I wish someday I can get a nomination. --Sky Harbor 13:14, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Be careful on what you wish for ;)--Lenticel 23:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Of course, my No. 79 vote was counted for him. Yeah! If Efe becomes admin, I hope, that, since I am lazy to read Wiki Rules, Efe would help me, have my legal articles corrected-reviewed, like music, and then, let Efe put my articles to be featured, even just one. Remember that I have no featured article, but my E-jay killings article had been used worldwide by jurists and even in the Ateneo Law School, which I hope I would not have enrolled at, in 1978, if only time can be clocked otherwise. Pardon my English. Just asking a favor. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 05:27, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Glorietta article

Can we just make the "2007 Glorietta Explosion" subsection of the Glorietta article much shorter? I think the "Final reports and lawsuits" sub-subsection must be put, or kept in the 2007 Glorietta Explosion article.

Furthermore, it seems that the Incidents part took up almost half of the article, and what's more, it contained almost all negative incidents. There might be tendency that, "huwag na tayong pumunta ng Glorietta. Nakakatakot." (Let's not go to Glorietta anymore. It's too scary). Chitetskoy (talk)

I removed the section since it is already in the main explosion article.--Lenticel 07:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Jews

There are too many promo links from History of the Jews in the Philippines. They're not even of Filipino Jews but of Filipinos who merely reside in Israel. Please do some cleanup before the section gets swamped with unrelated, therefore useless, links. Please monitor it more stringently. Thanks you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.104.3.21 (talk) 11:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

You could remove the said links in the article and put a notification in Talk:History of the Jews in the Philippines.--Lenticel 23:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Whats up with the Japanese Anime character!?

I think you guys should put something else that would show how proud we are of our filipino traditional filipino clothes instead of using a "JAPANESE" anime character wearing a barong. Such an insult to our heroes who died liberating our country from the Japanese. They paid the ultimate price, only for the Filipino wiki page to be represented by a product of the Empire that tried to enslave the country. Come on guys, be creative naman. Don't Copy. Just go ask some pretty filipina (there are plenty out there) to have their photo wearing barong and saya on the site. I think most Filipinos out there would agree with me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.251.245.78 (talk) 16:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Calm down dude. Just because it's a picture in anime-style doesn't mean she's Japanese. Also, the Philippines is friends with Japan now. Your overreaction here is just ridiculous. TheCoffee (talk) 20:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

You obviously are not aware about Wikipe-tan. Why be angry about a character that looks so kawaii? (p.s. Don't tell me you boycott anime and sashimi as well, and abhor the use of the Tagalog word halakhak which originated in Japanese?) Starczamora (talk) 21:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Wallowing in hate will get you nowhere and both countries have moved on.--Lenticel 00:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

And one more thing...Misplaced Pages is not a forum, this is the wrong place to discuss your views on anime. --- Tito Pao (talk) 00:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I think this is eligible content for this page since he is talking about our project, and how it could be bettered, in his opinion, by replacing the manga woman in our front page with a more Philippine-inspired image. — Felipe Aira 11:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Watch this user's edits

Hello mga tambay, keep one eye open for this user and his edits; some are suspicious. I wouldn't say he's a history revisionist, but maybe he's simply mistaken: User $antander and his contributions. Or I may be mistaken as well, so the more eyes, the better. — •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ• 02:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Fanboys edit wars redux

Just to alert our tambays on the recent edit wars of the fanboys. Remember the previous one?

• by Wynchard Bloom (talk · contribs) and ISWAK3 (talk · contribs)
• by Wynchard Bloom (talk · contribs) and Slemcal1 (talk · contribs)

They are funny when they give threats on each other. --bluemask 03:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Note: User:Slemcal1 was blocked. --Efe (talk) 11:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

No offense to all the armies of the Tambay who had made close contact with the fanboys above, but in reviewing Wynchard Bloom's action and the way he carries his operation, he seems a bit possessive of his work. Additionally, his sphere of activity generates cold acceptance to newbies by putting warning signs on their talk pages. He also resorts to asking for assistance with other Tambays which results to compel pressure to the person he has argued upon. Yay! Wala lang. Napansin ko lang. :) Axxand (talk) 08:07, 18 November 2008 (Phils)

Cities no longer

What a waste of time, effort, and money. SC reverts 16 cities to town status. These need to be fixed:

• Baybay City (Leyte)
• Bogo City (Cebu)
• Catbalogan City (Samar)
• Tandag City (Surigao del Sur)
• Borongan City (Eastern Samar)
• Tayabas City (Quezon)
• Lamitan City (Basilan)
• Tabuk City (Kalinga)
• Bayugan City (Agusan del Sur)
• Batac City (Ilocos Norte)
• Mati City (Davao Oriental)
• Guihulngan City (Negros Oriental)
• Cabadbaran City (Agusan del Norte)
• Carcar City (Cebu)
• El Salvador City (Misamis Oriental)
• Naga City, Cebu (Cebu)

-TheCoffee (Talk)

I just read the article in Inquirer and was to post it here. TheCoffee beat me to this. :-) Anyway: *rolls eyes* Their history sections must mention that they where elevated to city status before the SC struck down their cityhood laws. --seav (talk) 23:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• Yeah, I should have been the first to notify all of you, but Coffee was rather fast, in reading this nightmare to Misplaced Pages articles. I will not edit on this. Gosh. Imagine, in just one wink of an eye, the Court erased history. But, they should have read the Constitution and the finer points, before they created these cities. How many hours did Filipino Wikipedians wasted on these cities, and how much hours should Filipino Wikipedians spend to clean these ton of articles. Maybe, group assignments. Here is the official linkSC Voids 16 Cityhood Laws Posted: November 18, 2008 By Jay B. Rempillo. (NOTE that the full text of decision has not yet been released on the website). Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 05:32, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

• Misplaced Pages meetups in the Philippines