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About "Racism in modern Russia"

Hello. Why have you delite my changes without explanation?--MPB-152 (talk) 09:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring Tchaikovsky and Banach in List of Ukrainians

Thank you for restoring Tchaikovsky and Banach.

Please note that the Banach entry in the List of Ukrainians is not formatted right after you restored it.

These edit wars with Polish anti-Semitic chauvinists were going on for months. Because of this, it may make sense to restore both the entries in the List AND the references to the sources confirming the connections of both individuals to Ukraine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.14.5 (talk) 00:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Citizenship and ethnicity

Two months ago I requested that a citizenship and ethnicity parameters should be added to Template:Infobox Writer. I has been requested again at Template talk:Infobox Writer and I think if several users will support it, It can added. In the case of Ukrainian writers such a Gogol and others this is important. Please join me there Bandurist (talk) 17:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Leonid Savin

You were asking about an article about this person. It wasn't speedily deleted. Apparently some people think he is deserving a place in WP. Since you noticed the article's recreation, I was wondering if you had an opinion about its singnificance. You can check the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Leonid Savin (2nd nomination) and article talk page. --Hillock65 (talk) 15:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the award!

Did I ever give one to you? Or are you not interested in that sort of stuf? Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

You have given me one before, and I used to display it. But I didn't want to gloat :) Ostap 22:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank You Very Much for the Award

Ostape,

Thank you very much for the award. It was both a surprise and an honour. Let's keep building, my friend. Budmo! 08:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Russia-Ukraine relations

I was wondering of your opinion on that article. As far as I am concerned, it is not even an article but an essay "What I think of Russia-Ukraine relations?". It is written purely from someone's imagination without any literature or sources whatsoever. Should I nominate it for delition? What do you think? --Hillock65 (talk) 03:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of two "denial" forks... --Irpen 04:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I assume you are talking about Denial of the Holodomor? Ostap 04:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and of Holodomor-Genocide too. --Irpen 04:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, try to delete them. I doubt it will work. However I agree that H-G question is not the nicest article. Ostap 05:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I lost confidence in AfD. It seems to be a pure lottery of who gets more of his ilk mobilized by an off-line campaign . So, I rarely, if ever, nominate for deletion. Makes no sense. I try to make sure that bullshit articles are tagged until they are cleaned up to at least minimum degree of compliance. With some articles even that is not necessary as their titles speak for themselves better than any tag. --Irpen 05:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh come now, I don't think it is civil to describe articles as "bullshit". I think the AFD process is flawed to, but if you are so against the existence of this article, why not try? I honestly still don't really know what you even object to in that article, nor do I have a clue why you are against the inclusion of the template. All I see is you calling the article bullshit, which is really not helpful at all. Ostap 05:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Przemyśl

Mixed, certainly. Just as Lwów is a historic Polish area.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 04:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I think Przemyśl is more Polish than for example Szczecin, but... let's hope this will not be an issue. We have too many of those under every second rock already :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Zakierzoński Kraj / Закерзоння

pl:Zakierzoński Kraj, uk:Закерзоння. Very interesting, we should at least stub it. I would, but I cannot think what would be a good translation? Land beyond the Curzon? :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Russia – Ukraine relations

Some ideas how to progres with Russia – Ukraine relations? I tried to find consensus at it's talk page last week but got only 1 replay, surley it can not stay the way it is.... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Huh?

I beg your pardon? --Irpen 07:29, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I dont get it

Is it some kind of sadistic national sport here to try to get innocent people blocked?

Read my explanations to Faustian before you make funny conclusians Faustian was already answered on. If you try to get at me because of my opinions thats realy weak.

1. Political rethoric - I'm a National Bolshevik, you can find my rethorics on their web site, thats where it's taken from. They spread the information what part of Ukraine was were alot. As i understood, MVEi was also a National Bolshevik, which explaines where he took this rethoric from. Unlike MVEi who as i understood from his block history was a big edit war lover, i perfer compromises and exaples were given to Faustian. The same case for example is when you take to Communists. It's logical they would both use the same rethorics like Class struggle, State as an exploiting unit, and many more. Woulf you block all communists on Misplaced Pages for that? Is it a witch hunt?

2. I ran over into MVEi one time, and we were on different sides there. He wanted a one piece image on the Russians page, i supported the administrator whuch eventualy blocked him about making a many people collage.

Before playing in detective games which hurt the name of other people, i would suggest you read what i wrote to Faustian. Log in, log out (talk) 08:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

By the way. What i wrote there i wrote because i havent known things like that cant be written on Misplaced Pages, and i havent restored them when they were deleted. You copied what i wrote there on your user page, and thats a pure provocation. You know it was deleted so why to restore it if not to wake an argument? Why to wake an argument if not to block someone who is not in your opinions? User pages are created for other things. I was mature enough not to continue the discussion, and i havent returned their seens. You seem to insist on it for a reason. I already understood that it's your nationalists way to get people who write what you dont like from Ukrainian articles. I'm not MVEi, but i'm sick of Ukrainian nationalists trying to block me by lying i am, your the second already. I leave all Ukraine articles, they dont interest me that much to get people lying on my and puting black marks on my good name. Log in, log out (talk) 08:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to but in, but I also believe it is User:M.V.E.i. and I believe I can prove it too. Where can I report this, there has to be a special notice board for sockpuppets? --Hillock65 (talk) 12:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Another nationalist. Now i'm shure it's an attempt to get me out for my opinions. I dont know you, and i dont know M.V.E.i. so how can you say i'm M.V.E.i.? It more seems you and Ostap R are the same person. Both nationalists, edit the same topics, same IP. A checkuser on you two will be nice. If you really can "prove" it, be a man and bring your claims here, or are you afraid i could answer you on them and then you won't feel so smurt? Cmmon, write them. Log in, log out (talk) 12:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Hillock65, if you want to take action here, you need to go to Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser and file a report. Please see the previous report on M.V.E.i for details. I agree that there are some similarities in writing style, and editing patterns, but this probably needs a checkuser to prove any block evasion. Papa November (talk) 13:19, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Faustian. I already explained there all. Log in, log out (talk) 13:31, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Be more like Yulia :)

I think you should remove the quote from User:Log in, log out from your homepage, ethnical tensions is the last thing that Ukraine needs and that kind of provocations is not gonna help there, besides if you take a look at my talk page you can see that User:Log in, log out is a niece guy. I also see that you enlisted the help of User:Hillock65 at times. I think that that is as effective as appointing Stepan Bandera as Ukraine's ambassador in Moscow... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Your 100% right. I myself regreted that i said what i said and that's why i havent returned it even once after Kuban deleted it. Log in, log out (talk) 09:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I copied parts of what i wrote to Hillock on his user page:

I already explained all on Faustian's talk page and figured it's all clear. If you have doubts, you can ask me questions, bringing out why you think so and recive answers.

What i said on the Ukrainians in Russia talk page was stupid, and the prove i really understood it was stupid is that i havent returned it when it was reverted. If you would know Russian, maybe you know i'm not shure you havent named it in your detales, any way, this rethoric wasn't used only by me, and as i understood by M.V.E.i., but by the whole Russian media during the orange revolution. Am i Mikhail Leontiev? Am i Shevchenko on the night program on ORT? Am i the whost in the ORT news Tolstoy?

Again, the fact that Ukrainians users came against me and got so alarmed when they thought i'm M.V.E.i. shows that he did many things which made many people against him, and i wasn't ok to, but i'm really sorry if you, Ostap, or anyone got offenced. Log in, log out (talk) 09:42, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

And that and that was nothing but a cheap provocation. If i wouldn't be mature i would say it's the same person. Really out of place. I admited i was wrong their, don't know why you keep on insisting on such a useless fight. Log in, log out (talk) 13:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for removing the quote! Sorry if my remarks about User:Hillock65 offended you. You are free to ask the help of anybody you want! I just think User:Hillock65 is a bit too suspicious when it comes too Russian editors, I belief a more friendly approach leads to better results (see above). P.S. I should get elected into the Verkhovna Rada :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Євразійський союз молоді

You are User:Гриць, right? If you have the time could you translate Євразійський союз молодi? I find this subject very interesting and I'm sure English wikipedia could use the article. Thanks, Ostap 00:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll get to it either today or tomorrow. --Hillock65 (talk) 00:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I finished Eurasian Youth Union. Have a look. It is still raw and needs some corrections and adjustmetns, I didn't translate everything. I hope you can help with corrections. I will try to subsitute Ukrainian references with English ones later. Cheers.--Hillock65 (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. This is a very good article. Try for dyk. Ostap 21:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

You made few mistakes i fixed. 1. MAII and National-Bolsheviks are not neo-Nazis. I'm not entering with you into a political discussion, they are not considered to be and thats it. 2. NBP are considered radical Left. 3. They are not anti-Ukrainian but anti-governmental, they belive that close ties with Russia is good for Ukraine. The movement has Ukrainian members to. Log in, log out (talk) 18:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Self-revert

I did not think that you would report me, but there is an admin that would jump at the chance to block me and probably some users that would love to report me. Even though its not really a revert, you can never be too sure how these things will turn out.--Miyokan (talk) 04:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Need your glasses checked

EXCUSE me? "WP:OR/WP:SYNTH WP:POINT."--Miyokan (talk) 13:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't use glasses so that can't be the problem... Ostap 17:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Ataman Tiutiunik

Hi. Do you happen to know anything about this individual? I just heard about him today - apparently he was one of Petlyura's men, was lured into Soviet Ukraine in 1923 and shot in 1929. Seems quite interesting. This appears to talk about him. If you can find enough material for a small (or large!) article, that would be nice. Biruitorul 23:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

What a coincidence! Yes, the very same man. By the way, I don't know if you can find any sources on this (I was told all this verbally, so I don't have any myself), but the way he was attracted back to the USSR is this: a close friend of his became a Chekist and convinced him there was a big uprising in Ukraine and he was needed to lead it. He went to the shore of the Dniester River (then separating Romania from the Ukrainian SSR) and at a signal (a light - it was night), he and his friend rowed a boat across. Then he was arrested right away. Because of this precedent, Petlyura became much more careful, but as we know, the Soviets eventually killed him too. Biruitorul 01:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you - I'd never heard of the guy, but he didn't seem a very likable character. Now it makes sense. Biruitorul 22:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Change the name of the Holodomor article to The Hunger

You told me not to use Russian words? Only If you dont use Ukrainians. Dont talk till you change the name of the HGolodomor article to Hunger. 132.66.180.68 (talk) 06:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

This is silly. Do whatever you want. Ostap 07:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank you

		Thank you!
		Ostap R, it is with deep awareness of the responsibility conferred by your trust that I am honored to report that in part to your support, my request for adminship passed (87/14/6). I deeply value the trust you and the Misplaced Pages community have in me, and I will embark on a new segment of my Misplaced Pages career by putting my new tools to work to benefit the entire community. My best to you, Happyme22 (talk) 04:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Cofa?

Hi, Ostap. I was wondering if you could help me with a query. I recently expanded the article Anatol E. Baconsky, and I have trouble locating his birthplace. His biographies say that he was born in Cofa, a Bessarabian village, which they indicate was part of Hotin (Khotin) County. Presumably, it is now part of Ukraine. I found it impossible to locate, and I cannot tell what its current name in Ukrainian is/should be, or what administrative unit it may be part of. I would be grateful for any info that would help me fill the link or add a redlink to be filled eventually. Thanks in advance. Best, Dahn (talk) 16:29, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Great stuff. Dahn (talk) 16:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Template:History of Ukraine

I was wondering if you have an opinion on what this template should look like. Currently one of the users is imposing his POV variant. We are trying to find a consensus on what should be included in the template. Please leave you feedback on the talk page. Thanks. --Hillock65 (talk) 14:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

AFD

Oh yes, I think it is an AFD, unless proper sources are found. It is all too easy to brand one extreme, just type BBC antisemitic in google.com and there you go - tons of links, get what you want. Tymek (talk) 03:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Holodomor

Created off topic discussions page for talk:holodomor. Probably less offensive than just plain deleting - could be a teaching example for others. What do you think ? Bobanni (talk) 19:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like the page you made for it was deleted. I dont know what to do with the off topic discussions. Ostap 22:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Little context in Annychka

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Many thanks..

Hello Ostap R. I'm sorry for stupid reverts in Truce of Vilna article. And I thank you for your utterances in my talk page. And..I've left English wikipedia, because I don't want vandalise..I'm troll probably, so maybe will be better if I'll leave wikipedia. And..on the end: Many thanks for your contributing to english wikipedia. Good bye Ostap R Alden or talk with Alden 20:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Photo of 2004 Ossetia conflict in 2008 article

Hi. Please add your views at Talk:2008 South Ossetia War#Picture from previous conflicts. NerdyNSK (talk) 04:38, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

2008 South Ossetia war

Your recent edits to 2008 South Ossetia war (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) have given me cause for concern. It is apparent that your edits depicted here constituted an edit war, an action which both is disruptive and warrants a block. As the incident arose over a day ago, I am going to take no action at this time, except to issue you with a final warning for revert warring. Be advised that the other party to the edit war was blocked yesterday by an uninvolved administrator, and you could very well also have been.

In the future, if a party makes a change you do not agree with, it is not necessary to revert him on sight; if a party reverts you, do not re-revert to push through your version of the article. If differences of opinion arise on an article, open a discussion thread on the article's talk page, inviting comments from other editors to form a consensus as to which of you is correct (if any). (Occasionally, discussion can be fruitless; in such cases, seek dispute resolution on the matter.) However, revert warring is disruptive; please don't do it.

Regards, Anthøny 15:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I understand. Ostap 16:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ostap, I'm not anywhere close to 3RR, but thanks for the pre-emptive note! -Colfer2 (talk) 19:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Replied at User_talk:Colfer2#3RR. Those are in no way 3RR reverts. Look at the diffs. -Colfer2 (talk) 19:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Hope the article ends up a good one! -Colfer2 (talk) 19:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Do not delete my contributions. You are disrupting the flow of wiki. If you dont like something discuss before delete. What Max (talk) 01:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what you are talking about. Ostap 02:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

too smart?? be true to your conscience and truth

read the lines properly..please stop vandalising the article and my neutral edits

the reference says:

Anna Neistat of Human Rights Watch (HRW), who is leading a team investigating the humanitarian damage in South Ossetia, told the Guardian that Russian estimates of 2,000 dead in the conflict were "suspicious".

"The figure of 2,000 people killed is very doubtful," she said. "Our findings so far do not in any way confirm the Russian statistics. On the contrary, they suggest the numbers are exaggerated."

Neistat said that HRW investigators had, today and yesterday, recorded cases of Ossetian fighters burning and looting Georgian villages north of the South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali.

"The torching of houses in these villages is in some ways a result of the massive Russia propaganda machine which constantly repeats claims of genocide and exaggerates the scale of casualties," she said. "That is then used to justify retribution."

Neistat said that doctors at Tskhinvali hospital had provided figures that 273 wounded people had been treated there during the conflict and a total of 44 dead people had been brought to the city morgue. Russian and South Ossetian officials have claimed that 1,400 people were killed in the first day of fighting, mostly in Tskhinvali.

There have been reports of Ossetians burying relatives in their allotments and there are no lists of the casualties. Neistat stressed that HRW's investigation was not complete

so stop sexing up with a georgian or us govt. slave like position..please be neutral (NOTE THAT I DIDNT ASK YOU TO BE A OSSETIAN)..

so please stop acting too smart..your cooperation is welcomed.. Cityvalyu (talk) 00:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Your POV edits are well documented. How did the US government come into this? Ostap 00:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

thanks for acknowledging that my neutral point of view is well documented ;) edit are there anyyone can judge and form their opinions about me.i care least about liars even if they gang up to form a majority ..next, the us govt has a puppet organisation called nato into which many countries are wishing to get enslaved on account of some sort of belief that USA cares about them (us also supported iraq once before invading it)Cityvalyu (talk) 02:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The problem

The sources I gave there are all I have on that issue. I don't have other sources because I decided to stop edit that article. I acted rude there and I want to get more experience in discussion, NPOV search, before I go editing serious articles like that. So sorry, but if you want you could use the sources I found then. Kostan1 (talk) 11:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Leonardo's mother

Well done. Amandajm (talk) 10:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Music

Thanks for the link, I have seen it before. Tymek (talk) 17:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

A comment

I see you deleted his warning. Yes, that was User:Tananka who made four reverts today in this article.Biophys (talk) 03:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I see. Anyway, the "alleged mercenaries in the infobox" proposal was already rejected. Its in the archives. Ostap 03:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please use edit summaries, especially on actively edited topics. Your edit to International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia was lacking that information.

Second bit of advice, revisit the grammar you used: He said that there were similarities between the situations of the Abkhazian, South Ossetian and Chechen peoples, and the Palestinian people. You should consider fixing the multiple instances of the word "and" you have there. Cheers! —— nixeagle 17:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Mess to fix

Świniuchy, Swiniuchy... hard to begin where I am not sure what the Ukrainian name is (perhaps we already have an article to merge it to?).--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Lwów pogrom (1918)

You may be interested in the discussion of the role played by the Ukrainian criminals. I know this is not the most pleasant part of our histories (Polish soldiers and criminals participated in it too), but I thought I should blip this recently expanded and to-be-possibly-DYKed article on your radar.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: award

Thank you and yes, I remember. It is truly a ray of hope when I consider that after all you've been yourself, you are still here :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Reply

You asked this at ANI. What now? Precisely nothing. An administrator came and made this summary. Now the thread will be archived in 48 hours. As you can see, the decision was determined mostly by Irpen. That is how he influential (I can only guess why). I hope this ArbCom case will not stop the productive work of Piotrus. But who knows? He already get a restraining order, and there is an enormous pile of slander at the evidence page. These are not good signs.Biophys (talk) 20:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I know. Misplaced Pages is flawed, and this whole "Piotrus is evil" thing is absurd. You know what is ironic? Piotrus is on (a form of) 1rr but Miyokan is not! Ostap 21:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I am flattered by Biophys' claim that I am "influential". But he is wrong again. I am not influential at all. Sometimes, stuff I write makes a difference because sometimes I say things that just make sense and in a way that makes it clear. I wish everything I said made perfect sense all the time, but I realize that, like everyone, I make mistakes. So, when I talk nonsense (happens too), I make very little impact. BTW, Biophys, I dislike the part you said in parentheses. You have this tendency of using expressive ambiguities. And, btw, what slander are you talking about? Again, either be specific or say nothing. --Irpen 03:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't get this... I think I got roughly the same opinions as you both but I never had a problem with User:Russavia or User:Miyokan (I think User:Russavia has created some very useful articles actually). Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Biophys had most of the problems with Russavia. Don't you remember Miyokan's conduct at Racism and discrimination in Ukraine? He constantly edits against consensus. Ostap 21:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I think the main problem is that nobody wants to compromise here... When I started to compromise here: the problems with User:Russavia soon disappeared. Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

If only things were that simple. No one is talking about a community ban for Russavia. He's blocked for taking part in the creepy outing harassment of Biophys. That is what Miyokan was blocked 2 weeks for also. We are discussing whether Miyokan (after 9 blocks, repeated edit warring, outing despite being told "never do it again") has "exhausted the community's patience". So far it is clear that he has, yet no one will block him. Ostap 23:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was wrong about the ANI. Actually, I have no problems with Russavia. He was editing for a long time and started following some of my edits only a week or so ago. Unlike Mioykan, he creates a lot of good content, although I do not think we need his Georgia for Georgians.Biophys (talk) 23:16, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I think you assume far too much good faith. Ostap 23:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I think that that is better then being paranoid... remember that it is hard to tell what someone real intentions are when you only have her/his wiki-edits to judge on. Biophys once thought I live in Ukraine... while I never been there longer then 17 day's in a row.... and I once thought that User:Kuban kazak most have voted for Putin while it turned out later he voted for the communists... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I see Miyokan was banned, apparently for ever. I hope that wasn't too harsh. oh, crap. It was too harsh, wasn't it? Ostap 23:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Did not you ask for it too? Anyway, I stated my opinion on what the best solution would more than once already. --Irpen 03:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Due to the deleted edits, I don't think you know exactly what Miyokan did. Ostap 03:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I know exactly what he did. He harassed Biophys by saying that he knows who Biophys is and threatening to publicize this despite Biophys chose to edit under a pseudonym rather than his real name, did not give his name at his user page and signed his posts with a Misplaced Pages username rather than his RL name. Thus, Biophys made no indication that he was willing to waive his right to edit anonymously and outing or even threats of outing is a grave offense. If you read what I wrote at WP:AN you will find that I wrote the same thing there. --Irpen 03:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Whitewashing

Normally I don't do this but this attempt to whitewash Putin is a bit too much.... some laksom is trying to delete the Putinisms article. PS Hi Hillock65, how are you you? Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, but... I'm not Hillock65. Ostap 04:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry Ostap, it was late in my time zone the last time I wrote on your talk page. Great last edit on the Russia–Ukraine relations article (from you)! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:32, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's unbelievable that putinisms got deleted. Of course the article was in a bad shape but that doesn't mean it should be deleted. There sure are many other articles that should be deleted if that criteria should be followed. Anyway I managed to save the article in my sandbox, so I will probably rewrite it when I get more time and hopefully be able to revive the article. More sources would be needed also. I've heard that a book has been published about it in Russia but I haven't managed to find it on the net yet. Närking (talk) 21:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

The afd was clearly no consensus. And how can that be deleted and not Bushisms? They are both mostly lists of quotes. Just because some Jacob Weisberg wrote a couple of humor books? This is obviously an issue of Misplaced Pages systemic bias (please read that page especially here, it is very useful in understanding why Bushisms exists and Putinisms does not). Ostap 21:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering....

A day off? :) Or are you editing during your job? :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 17:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

How could I not have time for something as important as editing wikipedia? :)Ostap 17:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: decision

For weeks, the arbitrators were saying "in a few days". I'd advise you to take time and present evidence and/or comment more in the workshop (up to submitting your own proposals).--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:06, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

By all means, you are welcome to propose any findings, endorse, oppose and comment on any existing ones (in the workshop). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 02:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Closing in on Busza/Jaruga

Thanks to User:Dc76, we finally have some leads on the location of the Peace of Busza. He thinks its in modern Ukraine near Vinnytsia - we just need to figure modern names (see the bottom of his post for more detail). Could you help, or direct me to Ukrainian Wikipedians who may know the answer to this? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 13:29, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Ukrainian names

Could you (or another interested Ukrainian user) go through Polish–Ottoman War (1683-1699), Polish–Ottoman War (1672–1676) and Polish–Cossack–Tatar War (1666–1671) and see if any names there need update from Polish to Ukrainian? When I write those articles I often have to rely on Polish sources, which of course use Polish names... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:23, 17 October 2008 (UTC)