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SRA in the Netherlands

I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but please note the following:

• Satanic ritual abuse in The Netherlands redirects to Satanic ritual abuse in the Netherlands, quite appropriately. The "T" should not be capitalized, and by replacing the redirect with actual content, you have created a content fork. There should be only one article discussing SRA in the Netherlands, not two.
• Several editors have suggested the page redirect to either satanic ritual abuse or list of satanic ritual abuse allegations. Either would be appropriate, based on the sourcing the content could easily be integrated into one of the pages. I lean towards the list.
• I reverted the changes you made. You reverted to the version that existed before my edit here. This reverted to a version using terminology out of keeping with wikipedia's content (the use of mpd rather than DID), inappropriate redirects, you wiped out my citation templates and ref name tags resulting in considerable unnecessary duplication of content. Per WP:NAME the section titles are off. The tone of the piece is also off, and you removed the links I added. The lead is not neutral, calling the differences between the Netherlands and the US "interesting", as well as a non-grammatical use of "no soil", which makes no sense in English. The lead also presents a conclusion and reads like an essay, which is of concern regarding original research. In addition, there is no edit summary, with no indication of why the changes were made, nor was there any discussion on the talk page.

Before re-reverting, please indicate why you believe the extant version is inadequate, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. Also, please familiarize yourself with the policies I have pointed to as they are the reasons why I have made the edits I did. WLU (talk) 15:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Your removal of the redirect is inappropriate. The page is quite short, of only two incident of dubious world-wide impact, of dubious notability overall, and fits quite easily into the page it is currently redirecting to - Satanic ritual abuse in the Netherlands#The Netherlands. In addition, you were reverting to a version with substantial errors in more than just the English - the formating, tone and neutrality are all incorrect and the citation templates and referencing tags were wiped out. It is a page that will always be a stub, with no need to have one when there is a page dedicated to allegations of SRA. The current redirect is an appropriate one in my opinion, and all the content that is relevant has been integrated. I have re-worked the content using what the page contained in English - the changes were cosmetic, grammatical and for ease of reading. Unless the original summary was incorrect, I do not need to read Dutch to work with the content. Also, that the content of the sources (unlinked sources by the way) is Dutch does not affect the neutrality, stubbiness, notability, world-wide impact, formatting, tone and citation template issues that were present.

Also note that no editor owns any page, and as it says at the bottom of the screen, "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it."

A final note that your comment of "Give the readers in the world the opportunity to read what has happened in the Netherlands regarding satanic ritual abuse, and why the discussion took such a different course in this country" suggests a very non-neutral approach, one that contains the truth about a subject when wikipedia is not about the truth and we are not here to advance a theory or thesis. The redirecting by other editors suggests there is no consensus for a separate page, and your efforts should be to convince those other editors on the talk page that there is merit to SRA in the Netherlands having a separate page. I have started a section on the list talk page, please contribute there before reverting again. WLU (talk) 17:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Please don't do this; I'm not sure why you've blanked the page, but there is no reason for it. WLU (talk) 18:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Please don't create pages that duplicate the content already on wikipedia. This is a content fork and is against policy. Please review the discussion at Talk:list of satanic ritual abuse allegations and the content at list of satanic ritual abuse allegations#The Netherlands and discuss on that talk page. WLU (talk) 18:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Three revert warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Satanic ritual abuse in the Netherlands. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Stop reverting without discussion. WLU (talk) 20:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)