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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by GraemeL (talk | contribs) at 14:42, 8 September 2005 (→Commercial posts: Strip and link to diff.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Talk to me

• If you have anything to say to me, put it here. I will reply here unless you ask me to reply somewhere else.
• If I posted something to your talk page, I probably added it to my watch list. I would prefer replies in the same page as the original post. However, feel free to reply here if you want.

Teen Podcasters Network

The wikipedia article for the Teen Podcasters Network is not an advertisement. We are simple trying to get our name out. --Apache119

Sounds like a good definition of an advertisment to me. --GraemeL 21:06, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

My article on Fraulein was not vandalism. The term still exists in contemporary usage.

basically every page on this website is an "advertisement" for whatever it's about. you can't just pick and choose arbitrarily which ones are allowed and which aren't.

Fast films

Yes it can be done, and actually already has. See Misplaced Pages:Votes_for_deletion/Father_and_Son_Tuesday. Niteowlneils 23:05, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

The one other thing to do is make sure the other articles link to the single VfD discussion page (ie Jeremy Duncan links to Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Father and Son Tuesday instead of Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Jeremy Duncan). Niteowlneils 23:42, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry not to have responded; I was in the middle of a long and irritating counter-vandalism exercise, and I didn't see your question until too late. I'm glad that you have it sorted out. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:30, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Russell Grant

ROFL. In all honesty - so do I but, I reckoned it fair for the "Little Astrology Prince". Boy I was tempted to have the Russell Grant link show "Big Astrology Queen". ;) Alf 19:41, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Did not know

I did not know about the three revert rule so I apologize. I reverted the edits because they are untrue and not relevant to the bio of the person named Rodney Howard-Browne. If I wanted to discuss the changes and so-forth where would I do that? I see the changes to the bio as unproven and the sources are not factual but rather random and pulled from many different websites and thrown into the bio producing incoherent and confusing information. I am a stickler for the truth and having followed Rodney Howard-Browne for many years I would like to convey to the wikipedia user the truth not unresearched and unproven information.

Hi. When making changes you need to remember that wikipedia is an encyclopedia and articles need to maintain a neutral point of view. Phrases like "When people encounter the presence of God, they are saved, healed, set free, and delivered" don't conform to this standard. This is why your changes kept getting reverted. Looking at the existing article, I don't feel it was neutral, even before your changes.

If you want to discuss changes then you should do it at the articles talk page. The talk page link is red at the moment, which means it is empty. Since nobody has talked about the entry in the past, you may find that nobody is interested in watching it.

I'm pretty new here myself and not sure as to the best way for you to move forward with changing the Rodney Howard-Browne article into a good one. You are probably best asking for advice at the Help desk.

You will also probably be taken more seriously if you create your own account. Rather than editing the articles from an anonymous IP address. Hope this all helps.

--GraemeL 19:12, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

David Jasper

I've re-written this, as a stub on the theologian. You might like to change your vote--Doc (?) 14:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

I changed my vote to keep. Many thanks for re-working the article. --GraemeL 14:44, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

From the vandal at 82.152.193.160

None of it is fiction. . .

Rangers are indeed a Bigotted Sectarian right-wing Nazi Fascist racist club that have never won a major european trophey. Or are we going to sweep all that under the carpet?

Not even going to comment. His shoe size is obviously larger than his IQ. --GraemeL 16:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

3RR and vandalism

Don't worry about the 3RR when it comes to vandalism and nonsense like this. You can revert as much as you like. --Ryan Delaney 17:22, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Enocean

Nice job sheepdogging that VfD notice and leaving a warning on the user's talk page. I see also that you're doing a nice job vandal-fighting in general. Keep it up. Fernando Rizo T/C 17:34, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

David Jasper (again)

Hi, Looks like the right David Jasper is there now. I should have checked more carefully - never occurred to me that there might be two people with a relatively uncommon name in a relatively specialised field. Dlyons493 18:04, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Hardy Boys

I do intend to follow the thing through. You are right by the way, it is spread over too many locations - though I believe everything should be brought together on FWDixon. It's a bit of an issue - link spam, vandals, personal attacks and even meatpuppets. It's got it all. :-) --PhilipO 23:27, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

Links from Individual Hardy Boys Articles

There is a discussion I referenced you (or you might be interested in) at . --PhilipO 16:59, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Block my IP fro editing pages

All the problems tha have come from this IP are becouse it is a school, some kids here will undoughtedly edit a page not helping wikipedia (such as arlier i got a message they were adding "fuck you" to pages and making edits that mostly deleted) so your better off to just blok it from editing.

Some Vandal

Deleting my marjama and marjamaa posts is patent nonsense

Misplaced Pages:Votes_for_deletion/ArtistShare

• I have added a Keep vote and a comment on the VfD. If you could take a moment and decide whether or not you think it's enough to change your vote I'd appreciate it. Wikibofh 23:53, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Itrw

On Itrw I beg to differ on your reverting. The content removed was completely unrelated to the article's title. Such entry is being subject of controversy between several wikipedians and Rktect, that he keeps adding content to entries without regard of the entry (the html comment I left is an example that he's just copying from other places as it tells you to look at a differnet article which is this same article). For more documentation look at: , , and User:Drini/Rktect. AS you also do RC patrolling, I want to mention that Rktect usually accuses of vandalism those who revert his additions (see on those urls for evidence that many users revert his additions). -- (drini|☕) 21:14, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. You might want to tidy up that comment a bit if you're going to use it as it looks a lot like some vandal spam in its current form. I'll add you to my whitelist in cdvf. --GraemeL 21:33, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

• • Just so you get the whole picture, take a look at Drini's contributions. Then look at Egils, Genes and Kens. They argue the pages are all the same and should be deleted en mass, but then they revert them removing the wikification, remove the content that is other than they claim it is,(tag and remove the images most of which I took myself and have registered with wikipedia)remove the references and leave the pages a shambles. That is just plain slimy. Take a look at the history of the page and what you should see is

a better page reverted to a poorer page in almost every case. Rktect 03:41, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Yes I am, I'm plaining to file an RfC but I'm very busy this week and the next so progress is going slowly (as I have to check hundreds of diffs). -- (drini|☕) 23:30, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

By the way and off-topic, NAZISMisntCOOL account has been undefinitely blocked due to his death treats on your user page. -- (drini|☕) 23:48, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Palestinian anon vandal

trying to get you some help... Tomer 23:44, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I think he's given up. --GraemeL 23:45, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Not necessarily...he may be back... Snowspinner blocked him. Tomer 23:48, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting "vandalism" except i meant to change it cause i forgot to sign in. Jobe6 00:08, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

LOL sorry. Big cyan text on a user page from an anon IP just screamed vandal/ :-) --GraemeL 00:11, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Again

Thanks for reverting drini on ItrwRktect 02:22, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again, again

...why would a vandal want to change my stinky little page? But whatever. Your help was much appreciated. (No reply necessary; I bet you're busy. :) --Jacqui M Schedler 18:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

210.211.142.183 still vandalizing

FYI, 210.211.142.183 stuck its commercial ads back in Virtual hosting after your last warning. Georgewilliamherbert 18:01, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Fräulein

Hi, as I can see, you have tried in vain to do what I did some hours before. Should we ask another admin to block the page? <KF> 23:42, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

I just reverted it again. It's been over 3 hours since he made the last change. The vandalism came from an AoL proxy. Hopefully, he's gotten bored by now. I wouldn't worry about asking for a lock on the page unless he starts up again. --GraemeL 23:47, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Okay. <KF> 00:03, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

4.183.203.183

Aloha. Can you block 4.183.203.183 (talk · contribs) for vandalism and 3RR violation on Cindy Sheehan? The user has been warned three times on his talk page. Thanks in advance. --Viriditas | Talk 10:01, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm not an admin. I will ask on IRC. --GraemeL 10:02, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Just vandalism then, not 3RR. --Viriditas | Talk 10:03, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Anglo-Saxons

Whoops. Cheers, sorted that. Rob Church 16:12, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Keep per Trollderella. Did I just say that?

Thanks for the laugh! VfD can use more humor, I live in daily fear that VfD will someday melt down and start glowing in the dark. (unless you didn't mean to be funny, then disregard! ;) Rx StrangeLove 00:25, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it was supposed to be funny. I think it's the 1st time that I've voted the same way as Trollderella. --GraemeL 00:27, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

RC patrol

The feeling, dear sir, is mutual. :-) FreplySpang (talk) 15:45, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Stella Vine

Have added two IPs and Chaindog to vandalism in progress, hopefully they will be blocked soon. Cdyson37 18:01, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I've tagged Chaindog with {{test1}} and {{test2a}} about 10 mins apart. --GraemeL 18:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

It seems he's a vain one, take a look at James Sutton (which I've just put up for a speedy) -- Cdyson37 18:09, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

OBCIĄGNIJ

OBCIĄGNIJ MOJĄ WIĘLKĄ ŻYLASTĄ KNIAGĘ AŻ PO MOJE PRZEPOCONE WORY ZANIM POSTAWIE CI PARUJĄCEGO KLACA NA KLATE!!!

I have no idea of what language this is. Thanks for the comment though. I wish the same to you and your family. --GraemeL 13:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Somebody hates Frasier

I HATE FRAZIER AND I AM GLAD IT HAS BEEN DELETED!!! User:FatboyPHATlol

You make me sick!

Well, not really. That makes about 4 times today that I tried to revert someone's vandalism, but was beaten to the punch by this GraemeL character. Keep up the good work keeping me out of work. :) Cheers. --Lord Voldemort 17:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

The feeling is mutual. Keep knocking down 'em vandals. --GraemeL 17:32, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Redirect correction for Tomatoe Worm

Hit enter key in error. See next post

Struggling Learner redirect tomatoe to tomato hornworm

I tried to redirect "Tomatoe worm" to "Tomato hornworm" using #redirect Tomato hornworm It didn't work, your correction did. I can see no differenc. Please tell me what I did wrong. Thank you

The # character needs to be the 1st character on the line. You had spaces before the #. All I did was remove the spaces. --GraemeL 18:29, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

about my post

I added a link to the Ultima Online section of wiki for Tradespot and you removed it and sent me a message saying not to put commercial links on the site. That site is not commercial at all, it's a free bulletin board where people can go to trade in game items. It is very popular and should be on the list... http://uo.tradespot.net/

I apologize. I admit that I only took a cursory look at the site to determine its worth. Please feel free to re-add the link. --GraemeL 18:45, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Dividend Reinvestment Program

I added an external link to http://en.wikipedia.org/Dividend_reinvestment_program, but was told that it was inappropriate. However, there is a link to a commercial site on that page. Why is the link to the commercial investment site acceptable, but a link to a non-commercial site which is completely about the subject deemed unacceptable?

Thank you -

George L Smyth

I was doing what is known as RC (Recent Change) Patrol. When doing this, I don't normally review all of the links on the page, just the recently added one. I will do a more thorough analysis of the external links from the page and remove all of the ones that appear to be in contravention of Misplaced Pages policy. --GraemeL 19:34, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Analysis done. Currently, the only external link from the page is to The Motley Fool, which is a widely quoted industry source. --GraemeL 19:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. When I went to The Motley Fool link, the page was displayed for about one second, then was covered with the following:

"Sign up for FREE Motley Fool site access! (Already registered? Sign in Here.)

This feature requires registration with The Motley Fool. Simply type in your email address for full access to our spin-free take on the market, money-making stock ideas, and weekly best-of email. You'll also receive periodic special offers from the Fool and our trusted partners."

My recommendation is that external links to public sites that require registration and subsequent "offers" from "trusted partners" be reconsidered.

Thank you for your time -

George L Smyth

Hmmm. I just get the article explaining the type of program and I have never signed up. <Insert Firefox evangelism and IE criticism here>

. :-) --GraemeL 20:13, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

User 192.206.243.9

I noticed you placed a warning on his/her page regarding vandalism. After that another page (personal digital assistant) was "molested." Furthermore, in the past this IP has been blocked for the same thing.

• Your account has been blocked for 24 hours for repeated vandalism. Exploding Boy 22:16, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)
• This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page you will be blocked from editing.  – Jrdioko (Talk) 19:22, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Would it be possible to block this IP indefinitely? Please advise. Kind regard. Have left another request at Smoddy who also left a warning in the past. --Nomen Nescio 20:09, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

I am not an admin, I just do me bit of RC patrol like many others. If you feel that the IP should be banned, try posting it to WP:VIP. Alternatively, join the IRC channel linked on my user page. There are usualy admins there who are willing to apply a block after a user/IP has been warned. --GraemeL 20:23, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Uploading "BrownAnole1.jpg

I have tried every way I know how to upload the subject photo to: http://en.wikipedia.org/Brown_Anole

I use the format: Male Brown Anole displaying | Warming Self }}

I get this Message every time: Upload warning "." is not a recommended image file format.

Please help: Phillipsacp 20:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry Philip, I have no experience of trying to upload images. You will probably get a fast answer if you ask at the help desk. --GraemeL 20:25, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for fixing ATV!

not spam

U recently warned me about posting a link to audiobooks

I dont see how the link I posted is any more of an advertisement than the links already on this page.

Thanks,

Since an admin has previously banned you for spamming the same page, I have no comment to make. --GraemeL 17:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Commercial Links?

Hi,

I see you removed a link I put on the Derren Brown page. Is it really the case that there are no links to commercial sites within Misplaced Pages? I think a lot of people viewing the page are people looking to learn Mindreading, and since there are no free resources on the net, is it not better to have a commercial one (which is much cheaper than similar beginners guides)?

thanks, Mike

Hi Mike. Please see point 3 in What Misplaced Pages is Not for the official policy. If we allowed you to put your link on the page, we would have to allow all similar links to be added and would run the danger of just becoming a web directory. However, I would like to thank you for your mature response. Often people resort to just re-adding their link, or inserting it into multiple pages. This just ends up with them being blocked from making further changes. --GraemeL 20:00, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

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Billy Joel Link

I keep changing the Official Billy Joel site to my link because someone keeps removing the link to my Billy Joel page.

How else can I make sure that it remains on the site?

I do it this way to mask it, so that it doesn't keep getting erased, so easily.

The content of the page is basically up to the people interested in maintaining it. As for linking to your own site, please read WWiN. --GraemeL 15:47, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Some anonymous vandal

HOW DARE YOU EDIT MY REMARKS!!!

JESUS WILL CAST YOU TO HELL !!

Please come along to our weekly black mass if you want to discuss this further. --GraemeL 17:09, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Misnamed and misplaced phto

I uploaded a photo named Anhinga9.jpg. I thought it was going to: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:List_of_images/Nature/Animals/Reptiles but it is not there.

Even worse, it is a lovely photo of a hawk, that should go to the proper web page on hawks. God help me. Phillipsacp 17:40, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

The image is safe and sound here. --GraemeL 17:47, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

A request to u

Due to the continous vandlism of User:Truth aspirant-- the article Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman has become a ‘business-propaganda-feature’ rather an ‘encyclopedic article.’ Just see history of the article [[Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman and Talk:Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman page--You are requested to take intrest in this serious editorial issue and make things straight in this global phenomena (Misplaced Pages). plz visit the article and make editings there. Thanx. Wiki4u

Thanks!

Just as long as we keep my fixation between us :) (and I'll do my best with the vandals) Rx StrangeLove 16:50, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

general lee

re the revert to that link at general lee, was it just the formatting you objected to? i'm reading the article, and it looks like one of the best i've seen about the general lee. you have any objection if i add it with good formatting? would eventually like to add some of the info from it to the article. thanks. SaltyPig 17:02, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

It was linkspam I was getting rid of. You can see the changes from this diff. The anon user 70.27.81.208 added very similar commercial links to two pages that I didn't think were useful to the overall article. If you think the link is valuable, then feel free to re-add it. --GraemeL 17:16, 3 Setember 2005 (UTC)

well i wasted your time on that one. i was looking at an older link. going to format that instead. good call. SaltyPig 17:29, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Lots of barnstars

I saw you gave that to Zscout370. He had 23 awards at the time. I myself have 22. You should also see User:Essjay/Gallery. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:05, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I see that Zscout370 already took care of it. You both deserve it! --GraemeL 11:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Britney Spears article

GraemeL, leave my article alone. It's my article. I'm free to do what I want with it.

1) It's not your article, it belongs to Misplaced Pages. 2) Deleting 99% of the content is not useful. --GraemeL 13:31, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Britney Spears article

GraemeL, it IS my article since it is written about me. I AM Britney Spears. Therefore, I can correct what other people write about me.

you're welcome

I usually don't like range blocking because of collateral damage, but he was high-speed and very persistent. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 18:40, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

IP_address

I think squeakbox may be asleep but I see you reverted to his clean version and some spammers are at it again in external links ;) thanks, 0waldo.

Nice work.

You've been doing a really great job keeping vandals at bay. I'm very impressed. Also, I love the conversation at the top of your talk page, concerning the Teen Podcasters Network. I drop by here and read it when I need a laugh. Joyous (talk) 14:59, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. I do try to keep things light hearted when I think some progress can be made. Hopefully, it leads to less aggravation and edit wars. --GraemeL 15:15, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

No vandals!

Hi Graeme,

I'd like to congratulate you by your work against vandalism here on Misplaced Pages! I don't contribute very much, but I like Misplaced Pages a lot, and people like you make it better!!

Milena 15:02, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not very good at writing articles, though I do tinker when I think I can make a contribution. Vandal fighting is often frustrating, but I think it's important to the overall project. --GraemeL 15:17, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Davie Cooper

I've been working on copy editing the Davie Cooper entry. The more I get into the article, the more it reads like a history of the Bankies from the period. I'm seriously considering taking a hatchet to it and trimming it down to just the parts relevant to Davie. Comments? --GraemeL 21:26, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Alright. Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. Just looking at the article, it gives as much information about Clydebank as it does Davie himself so yes it's probably a good idea to trim it down a little. It's a well written article but I don't think that level of detailed information is needed. Forbsey 16:18, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Trollderella

Hi Graeme

Nice to see a voice of reason in this madhouse of WP. Thanks for your sane comment, a breath of fresh air. I have little faith in this organ for information, it seems to be censored (not surprisingly) by those in control =:-(

Cheers

Thanks. As with any large group of people, politics tends to creep in. I try to maintain an open mind, though it's not always easy. The problem is not those in control. Nobody is in control, which makes things interesting on occasion. The RfC will probably eventually reach a consensus and a solution to the original problem. --GraemeL 18:49, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Trollderella

Sorry, yes the response was addressed to Meiers Twin. I do not disagree with your comment at all. --TimPope 19:10, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: David Cooper (footballer)

Looking forward to seeing the new 'Pele approved' version. -- Cactus.man   13:25, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Lamit COmpany

Hello Graemel,

You gave a vote here : http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lamit_Company

Please read what i had to say, and try to re-think the situation.

Thank you very much.

I changed my opinoin on the AfD to a weak keep for the moment. I'll take another look after your re-write. --GraemeL 16:22, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

honestly, cap'n

bloody hell mate. we're going to soon be the greatest punk band ever, and you won't let us put a link on the punk page. get a life.

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Susan Durrwatcher

LOL. It was a takeoff on "15 minutes of fame", but I didn't think she deserved that much.  :) Zoe 04:38, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Please refer to specific material

The links being placed are highly relevant to the material on Misplaced Pages, otherwise I would not be posting. I feel that the links make sense and that they deserve to be placed. If there is a specific link you are refering to, please let me know s that I can re-evaluate it's relevance. Thank you.

Commercial posts

Snipped out extremely long and badly formatted comment from an anonymous IP. Note, the content wasn't bad, it was just messing up the page structure, so I'm including the for anybody that wants to read it. --GraemeL 14:42, 8 September 2005 (UTC)