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DAWikipedia

DAWikipedia (talk · contribs)

Contains the word Misplaced Pages and the user has made no efforts to co-operate or discuss his username despite being logged in and editing articles. Xtreme racer 12:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
The username is clearly against policy, but I think the user should be given a fair amount of time to coöperate. They don't appear to have made any edits since a bit before you made your comment. Might be busy, on vacation, &c. — The Storm Surfer 23:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I personally don't have a problem with it, but according to {{UsernameBlocked}}, one may not have 'Misplaced Pages' in their name, so disallow. SalaSkan 11:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Policy is pretty clear about not allowing this, I think this can just be blocked. Until(1 == 2) 12:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I say block. Jmlk17 19:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm going to report this to UAA. This a blatant violation, as it clearly has the word Misplaced Pages in it. R Contribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • This is not a blatant violation of policy. The current policy does not state that any name containing "Misplaced Pages" must be blocked. There was an older version of policy that stated this (see ), but this also clearly indicated that user accounts created prior to 2007 are grandfathered in. This user has been contributing since June 2006, and I don't understand the need or desire to block the username now. -SpuriousQ (talk) 05:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

TrentGreen10

TrentGreen10 (talk · contribs)

The user is using Trent Green's name and jersey number. It may be confusing to other users, who may mistake him for actually being Green. However, The user does not seem to be impersonating Green In any way, or making claims that would suggest other things. I belive Misplaced Pages has a policy where one may not use the name's of famous people in their user name. (see User talk:Carlos zambrano, where a user's name was similar to that of Carlos Zambrano) Thanks for your time. ►ShadowJester07  07:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Not a problem with user name, but might need to be banned for vandalism. SYSS Mouse 00:26, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's a fan, not an impersonator. Jmlk17 06:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Is User:Trent Green in use? VoltronForce 10:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Policy is clear; user's aren't allowed to use a famous person's name unless they provably are that person. I don't think there's anyone called "TrentGreen10", so this username is probably okay. FWIW, I think that part of policy is a bit daft, but this isn't the place to discuss that. Dan Beale 15:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
There may be no one named "TrentGreen10," but if 10 is Trent Green's jersey number I think this username falls well within the policy. Exploding Boy 15:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
10 is Trent Green's jersey number.--Sandahl 04:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Exploding Boy. — The Storm Surfer 18:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Unless, of course, the user can prove they are the actual person. Arknascar44 01:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Agreed, unless the user can demonstrate they are that person they should change names. Until(1 == 2) 12:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
He is just a fan, of a not famous at all quarterback, no severe problem with policy, yet --Andersmusician VOTE 02:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Webmaster-Forward-Together

Webmaster-Forward-Together (talk · contribs)

It looks like promotional, especially considering the contribs the user has made (of which there are two pages that are CSD. Of course, it could just be a COI issue instead of a bad username issue. Anyway, I'm not sure on this one, so I figured I'd toss this out there to see what you guys think. Cheers. --slakr 00:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)



PalestineRemembered

The following discussion is an archived debate of the username below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for comment/User names). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result was: Well established user, you want him to change, discuss it with him Viridae 01:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

PalestineRemembered (talk · contribs)

Controversial user name under Misplaced Pages's username policy (pick a user name that others are comfortable seeing and collaborating with). The name "PalestineRemembered" is not a naive name. It tries to prove a point and promote a political agenda. It also promotes the web site www.palestineremembered.com. I asked the user to choose a neutral name on his/her talk page - there is some discussion of this issue there as well. Gabi S. 06:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
First, I don't find the name all that objectionable, and second, I don't like the idea of forcing long-standing editors with established reputations to change their name. PR can change if he/she wants to (and it sounds like he's tried before, but couldn't because of his involvement in an arbcom case that has since been closed). This user has a long and highly visible history here and it's odd that a username concern would come up only now. -SpuriousQ (talk) 07:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
A long editing history is irrelevant. -- Gabi S. 19:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The name looks fine to me. First, the only way I can see someone being uncomfortable with the name is due to their own personal bias. If a user named "Spiderman" had a name that made an arachnophobe uncomfortable, I wouldn't be inclined to change their name either. Second, remembering a historic place is hardly "promoting a political agenda". At most it can imply a fond memory. Lastly, do you have any reason to believe the user is promoting the website you listed? Have they added any references to it, on their user page or in articles? You could say that I was promoting www.george.com because the URL matches my username, but matching names doesn't necessarily make it true. — George 08:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
This "fond memory" means wanting to go back to those pre-Israel days. It's not as naive as you describe it. -- Gabi S. 19:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The username in question isn't a political statement, but this RFCN certainly is. There is a distinction between an expression of cultural belonging and a controversial political statement which the nominator either doesn't understand, affects not to understand, or is actively eliding. In a series of persistent posts on PalestineRemembered's talk page, the nominator has likened his quarry's username to WhiteApartheidRemembered, CrusadesRemembered, and – most appallingly – ArmenianGenocideRemembered. , adding that "the people that remember pre-1948 Palestine the most are Hamas." Good G-d. Enough with the harassment already.--G-Dett 13:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Palestine is a place, those other examples are events. It shows the user's interest in Palestine, but isn't offensive in the way those other examples might be. Coemgenus 14:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
That's exactly the fallacy. The Israeli war of independence was an event, a traumatic event for the Palestinians. "Palestine Remembered" is interpreted by many Israelis as "the Nakba will not be forgotten, and should be avenged." This is not explicitly offensive, but makes other editors uncomfortable seeing and collaborating with such a user. -- Gabi S. 19:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
If editors think "remembered" is a synonym for "avenged," what's needed is a good thesaurus, not a frivolous RFCN.--G-Dett 20:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
The ArbCom focused on some specific edits of PR and set the username issue aside. It was mentioned there, and now is the time to tackle it. -- Gabi S. 19:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Tackle = no block for me in this case. GDonato (talk) 19:23, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
The ArbCom most certainly did not "focus on some specific edits of PR's." Quite the contrary, it sprawled over everything from the legitimacy of PR's block history to false accusations about Holocaust denial to alleged patterns of admin harassment. As far as I know, in all of the tens of thousands of words on the many pages devoted to the manifold facets of that most tumultuous and divisive Arbcom case (including the evidence page, the workshop, the RfA page, the "proposed solution page," the original community noticeboard page, and all of the talk pages attached to each), the subject of PR's username was raised once – and that was by PR himself. And everyone ignored it.--G-Dett 20:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The spirit of the comment pick a user name that others are comfortable seeing and collaborating with is that usernames should not be prima facie distressing to a reasonable person, with a reasonable point of view. The only way someone would draw offense from "PalestineRemembered" is if someone was applying an unreasonable level of POV attribution to the user in question. Virtually any username can be viewed as offensive by someone, in some context -- that does not mean it violates this policy. --Haemo 21:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree with Haemo, what's the problem here? If "Palestine Remembered" is unacceptable, how long will I be allowed to use "Italia vivi" for my username? There is no problem here whatsoever. Italiavivi 21:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I think it would make sense for him to change it on his own, but since he doesn't want to, there's no reason to force him to. It might well be the case that his name is what got him first noticed, but that's water under the bridge now. --jpgordon 21:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • There is nothing wrong with this name. Certainly it makes his POV obvious, but that is good, as I think it is better to be open and honest about one's POV (for example, on one's user page) as long one follows Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines. The name isn't obviously offensive, and if a few editors find it so, I think that's their problem, not PR's. On the other hand this RFCN looks to me like yet another attack on PR in the long-standing campaign of bullying, harassment and intimidation against him, and that really is offensive. --NSH001 22:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I expressed my beliefs on his talk page, but I'll include them (in abreviated form) here: It most certainly doesn't violate the policy on usernames. The fact that, supposedly, "it irritates many Israelis" is not a strong enough reason to force a person to change their name. Bladestorm 00:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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GrotesqueOldParty

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The result was: Yeah... you were joking right??? Allow. Viridae 01:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

GrotesqueOldParty (talk · contribs)

I have been asked to change my name. Asked is putting it mildly - I was blocked and TOLD to do so, and I am putting in a request, but I would prefer to keep this name. At least one administrator, auburnpilot, has told me he sees nothing wrong with it. I don't know if I'm allowed to make this request myself, but here it is. GrotesqueOldParty 14:46, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • OK, perhaps I am silly, "say it slowly, one syllable at a time": I've tried that and still don't understand it; could someone spell it out for me? Now, as for this TiW sockpuppet thing, can someone give me evidence. As for now, I am neutral because I don't understand! GDonato (talk) 15:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't have a problem with the name. Yes, it's a play on the Good Ol' Party (US Republican party), but it's not against WP:U as far as I can see. And one syllable at a time... I suppose if you use a non-rhotic dialect of English, it sounds like Grotesque old potty, but I think that's a bit of a stretch. Flyguy649 contribs 15:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The name is partisan, but I don't think it rises to the level of "offensive." The sockpuppet accusation seems likely to be true, but that's not an issue for this forum. I think the name should be allowed. Coemgenus 15:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I've had a fair amount of interaction with GrotesqueOldParty, which is probably beside the point, but I never found the name offensive. Sure, it's not the most neutral name I've seen, but I don't think it merits a forced change. - auburnpilot talk 15:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I see no problem with this name. Exploding Boy 15:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • There are 2 sorts of derogatory names: (1) Names derogatory ro someone else, e.g. User:Mr X is an expletive-deleted, where User:Mr X may object; Names derogatory merely to the owner of the name, for example Renderosity forums in 2000 to 2003 AD had an active member with username 'SewerRat' and nobody complained about it as far as I know. Anthony Appleyard 16:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The username is surely intended as an insult toward the GOP (Grand Old Party) and perhaps also toward Wikipedians with those political leanings as well, but I don't really have an opinion on whether that fits with Misplaced Pages policy or not. However, the fact that this user is an obvious sockpuppet of the banned user TortureIsWrong (talk · contribs) evading the indefinite ban should probably be addressed before allowing a name change. 70.110.235.222 21:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
      • Who are you a sockpuppet for? Let's address that. I've already addressed your accusation on my talk page. BTW I'm not asking for a name change, I'm asking to keep this name. GrotesqueOldParty 21:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm going with disallow here. The user's name couples a political party with an negative adjective. In short, it says "The Republican party is grotesque". There is no even requirement of inference on the part of the user, especially given the type of articles this user tends to edit. We cannot have users with names that are clear and unambiguous insults to a group of people. --Haemo 00:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
    • PLease look up the word "grotesque." One of the primary meanings is "extravagant," for example, and there are other meanings as well, so by definition the phrase is very ambiguous indeed. GrotesqueOldParty 00:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
      • Oh, please. And one of the meanings of "nigger" is as a chummy appellation. Give us some credit; the clear meanings are:
        1. distorted and unnatural in shape or size; abnormal and hideous
        2. ludicrously odd;
        3. odd or unnatural in shape, appearance, or character; fantastically ugly or absurd;
        4. Characterized by ludicrous or incongruous distortion, as of appearance or manner.
      • The only non-pejorative use of the term is in reference to art, and that ain't what you're talking about. --Haemo 00:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
        • That's not true. Find a better dictionary. Or look into (to use another example) the term "grotesque" as applied to Sherwood Anderson's short story collection "Winesburg, Ohio." BTW, political parties are not monolithic, homogenous groups of people. At any given moment many people in a particular party may be highly distraught over the direction their party is going in. Perhaps, as a Canadian, you have a different perspective. Allow me mine. GrotesqueOldParty 00:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
          • A short story is a form of art, as I explained — which is the sole non-pejorative use. Those definitions were pulled from four different dictionaries. Political parties are not monoliths, to be sure, but your username makes no distinction; it labels all Republicans "grotesque". --Haemo 00:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
            • I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but you're wrong. Politics is also an art form. People enter and leave political parties every day without changing their personal natures. This name - even if it means what you claim it does - says nothing about individuals. GrotesqueOldParty 01:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
              • Actually, on reflection, I think although I don't approve of your username, I wouldn't want to actually take the step of forcing you to change it. It's not that bad. --Haemo 01:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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