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Where is the "Victims of Capitalism" monument? 12.30.159.142 01:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not built yet. The article explains. —dm 06:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I said Victims of Capitalism, not Communism. Since communism's never existed, no one's died from that, yet. 209.7.174.89 15:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. My mistake. Maybe the memorial should be called "Victims of Despotic Regimes Claiming to Be Communist Memorial"? --dm 20:53, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually communism has existed a number of times, but it's always been taken over by despots or military dictators before the ideals of the original movement have had time to sink in and last. That's why communism fails. But you can still give it a C for the effort, right?

Communists and Facists are indentical on that aspect - instead of accepting the past, they say 'but it was not real X...'.

Beside, the regims called themselves communists, were definitly dictatorials and arguably far-left in nature. So there.

And the wikipedia is not a democracy and neitheir a place for debates.

"I said Victims of Capitalism, not Communism. Since communism's never existed, no one's died from that, yet."

Ummmm… why don't you go to some former (non-)communist countries and explain to the relatives of the victims that "no one's ever died from" communism, "yet." I can't imagine why they wouldn't be dying of eagerness to sympathize with your obvious avant-garde views along with, naturally, the resentment in your tone… Of course, you can go on to tell them — i.e., the Poles, the Hungarians, the Estonians, the Slovaks, the Laotians, etc etc etc — to what extent they are wrong to embrace something as obviously despicable as capitalism and how much they can expect to suffer from their tragic mistake. Good luck! (You will need it.) Asteriks 08:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Updated a bit--dedication has been scheduled for morning of June 12, 2007. RUReady2Testify 04:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I think strongly that:

(1) the dedication graf should be near the top (above the explanation of the bill in Congress) because: (a) it shows that the memorial is not just a plan but it exists and (b) that info will be edited in a few days to say that the memorial HAS been dedicated and DOES exist etc. and what dignitaries attended the dedication (c) it is important to tell anyone researching this topic that the memorial is in existence and you can go see it;

(2) the info on who was invited is important because it shows that the monument itself is important and to what degree (the degree that X will attend buy y will not: many members of congress will be there but the President will not, although the mention that the President was invited is also important because it shows that: (a) the organizers thought it was appropriate to invite the President and also possible that he might attend.

Inviting the president of the United States to attend any ceremony is an extremely big deal. One does not lightly or humourously invite the President to attend a function or lightly or humourously announce that he has been invited. It is only done when there is a realistic expectation that he might attend.

When an organization invites the President to something, such invitation is ALWAYS announced as part of the general announcement in order to give hearers and readers the information they NEED to asses the importance of the event. In short, the announcement or inclusion here of a statement that the President was invited is shorthand for stating the importance of the event.

It is therefore indeed quite important and quite relevant and will be in the history books 50 or 100 years from now and should be in this one today. 138.88.204.34 13:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)