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Helen Womack & The Independent

There are 10 topics about Karabakh by Helen Womack in "The Independent" from 1992, but I can't find any news about Khojaly. Please, give any good source about topic. Divot (talk) 15:58, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I have already explained that the archive from 1992 is not available at the website of The Independent. Use Lexis-Nexis. The fact that it is not available on the website does not justify the tag. If you fail to find it in Lexis-Nexis, or in a major international library, let me know. We can ask the wikicommunity for help with verification, if you wish. I'm sure there are plenty of people here who have an access to Lexis-Nexis. Grandmaster 21:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Verifiability. If you can check an online database like Lexis-Nexis, check it, and say us about result. Divot (talk) 12:01, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I checked it, and the article is there. If you keep edit warring, you could be placed on an editing restriction. What makes you think that the article is not on Lexis-Nexis? Have you actually checked? If so, you should have found it easily. I copied the entire article from Lexis-Nexis and posted it in a thread above. So please stop edit warring, and go to a library. Grandmaster 19:35, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I posted a request at WP:REX. Hopefully someone will help us to do an independent verification. Grandmaster 19:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I found it in the Factiva database with the text you gave. Goodvac (see WP:REX) found it in Lexis-Nexis. So you can consider the existence and content of the article confirmed. But please remove the full text of the article from this page, it is a copyright violation. Zero 23:05, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your help. I removed the full text. Grandmaster 23:11, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Hürriyet, correspondent of "Le Monde", etc.

Hürriyet, correspondent of "Le Monde", head of Turkish Parliament’s Human Rights Commission - reliable sources. They say about Istambul's march. This is no offtopic. Please, read Misplaced Pages:Content disclaimer. Divot (talk) 11:29, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Every has a right for such rallies. Nothing extraordinary happened apart from that "strong sense of nationalism", no one was killed or wounded. Brandmeister 11:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

You are right about "killed or wounded". But we don't say that "someone was killed or wounded", we just say, after Hürriyet etc., that "The protest was heavy with ultranationalist sentiment" and "The head of Turkish Parliament’s Human Rights Commission, Ayhan Sefer Üstün, called on the country’s prosecutors...". This is an important information about such rallies. Divot (talk) 11:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

P.S. If you think "Nothing extraordinary happened", we can delete all information about such rallies. Are you agree? Divot (talk) 11:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Why it was "ultranationalist"? Unless something important happened, the inclusion of that is discouraged per WP:NPOV (and WP:WEIGHT), it's just an opinion, not an important info. Brandmeister 12:08, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

"Why it was "ultranationalist"?" Because reliable source Hürriyet says "The protest was heavy with ultranationalist sentiment".

Of course, this is important information about the rally, because the few of first-class media, describing the event, notes the nationalist sentiment. Divot (talk) 12:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Like Plato said that :) The reliable sources do not automatically guarantee inclusion because they should be balanced against neutrality in particular. Brandmeister 13:07, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Of course, but if the leading newspaper describe rally in the article "Racism mars Khojaly protest in Taksim", it means that this is "balanced neutrality". Divot (talk) 13:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

This is still should be balanced against Misplaced Pages's neutrality policy. The rally itself, as the articles say, was not an ultranationalist as a whole: "Some protesters, however, said they had no problems with Turkish-Armenians but added that they were marching to draw attention to the Khojaly Massacre". Brandmeister 13:56, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I add oficial position of head of Turkish Parliament’s Human Rights Commission. 14:07, 1 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Divot (talk • contribs)

OR derived from an image

Parishan, to use content translated from the supposed screenshot of an email that is on the webpage at http://panorama.am/en/politics/2012/03/02/xocali-lidice-kellerova/ would be original research. Beyond questions about the veracity of any translation, we don't know anything about this email, whether it is the complete email, the only email, etc. The actual article does not contain any of the new content you inserted, but the article does contain the content that you deleted. Meowy 02:00, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Fair use candidate from Commons: File:Hocali anit.jpg

The file File:Hocali anit.jpg, used on this page, has been deleted from Wikimedia Commons and re-uploaded at File:Hocali anit.jpg. It should be reviewed to determine if it is compliant with this project's non-free content policy, or else should be deleted and removed from this page. Commons fair use upload bot (talk) 08:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Falsification of history

Today, a subsection on Falsification of History was added by me, but user brandmeister removed it. I was suggested to discuss it for the first and then get it back. So I'm ready for any questions related to the text . Gazifikator (talk) 23:42, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I found no mention of Khojaly in Markedonov. Why did you try to include sources that do not support your assertions? Grandmaster 07:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

For a little peace of text 4 sources are used. If even Markedonov is problematic, according to your post, you agree others are reliable. I see no problem as a consensus to delete Markedonov's name and source. Hopefully you will not continue Brandmeister's line, time after time changing your attitude. Gazifikator (talk) 07:41, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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