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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 1

Franz von Hipper

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Escape of the Provisional Revolutionary Government

5x expanded by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

East River Road Historic District

Ornate Gothic Revival house, heavily ornamented with gingerbreading

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 10:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Aktio-Preveza Undersea Tunnel

Created by Athenean (talk). Nominated by Athenean (talk) at 07:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Labia minor

  • ... that Labia minor is chocolate-brown and up to 7 mm long, including the pincer?
  • Comment: For once, it's nice to be able to benefit from the confusion this animal's name provides!

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Haha, I think the hook can be improved though:
ALT1 ... that Labia minor are chocolate-brown, up to 7 mm long, and have pincers? Smartse (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Brilliant. Both hooks are approved - love the suggestive, but not so suggestive picture. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Harris Dental Museum

A small white brick building with windows on each side of the front door

Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 04:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Jacob Mayer

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 31

Podgorica–Shkodër railway

Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Bajzë Rail Station

  • ... that the Bajzë Rail Station was completely cleaned up in 2003 from toxic chemicals dumped in 1991-92?

Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

USCGC Point Arden (WPB-82309)

  • ... that the USCGC Point Arden, an 82-foot USCG Point class cutter originally designated as WPB-82301, later acquired the name Point Caution when the Coast Guard started naming all cutters longer than 65 feet?

Created by Cuprum17 (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 01:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Edward A. Gisburne

Round portrait of a stern-faced young man dressed in a suit.

5x expanded by Jwillbur (talk). Self nom at 01:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Leymah Gbowee

5x expanded by USchick (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

George Alexander Parks

Governor George Alexander Parks of Alaska Territory

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment: An example of what can happen after your boss assigns you to escort a group of dignitaries. --Allen3  22:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Hipposandal

Hipposandal

  • ... that the hipposandal was a metal shoe laced to horse hoofs in Celto-Roman countries?

Created/expanded by Rama (talk). Nominated by Rama (talk) at 22:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. I hand't noticed that requirement. I'll try to beef it up a tad. Thank you! Rama (talk) 06:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Should be a bit better now. Thank you. Rama (talk) 06:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Ancient Church Orders

  • ... that Ancient Church Orders is a genre of early Christian literature which has the aim to offer authoritative prescriptions on matters of moral conduct, liturgy and church organization?

Created by A ntv (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

X-Men: First Class (film project)

Created by Jhenderson777 (talk), -5- (talk). Nominated by TriiipleThreat (talk) at 20:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Plön Castle

5x expanded by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)



St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe

A stone church with a prominent embattled west tower incorporating a large arch, and the relatively small body of the church beyond it

  • ... that the tower of St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe, North Yorkshire, (pictured) has been described as "more like a castle fortification than a religious symbol" and its arch as "more suited to a cathedral than a small country church"?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Lords of Finance

Created by Remember (talk). Nominated by Remember (talk) at 18:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Walter Powell (1842-1881)

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Jacob Bigeleisen

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Qemal Butka

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 16:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Jersey Circus

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

James Pierrepont Greaves

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

¿Por Qué Te Tengo Que Olvidar?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Black-spotted whipray, brown whipray

A brown, diamond-shaped ray with black spots and a whip-like tail, in shallow water next to a pier

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


William W. Evans

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 05:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Verified. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 09:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Pete Ladygo

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

1689 Boston revolt

Governor Andros a prisoner of Bostonian rebels in 1689.

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


George V. Chalmers

Man in 1930s vintage football equipment without helmet cocks back throwing arm with football in hand

Created/expanded by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 03:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Kannagawa Hydropower Plant

Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 03:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC) 16:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Mill Creek (Lake Erie)

A large, concrete tube with a creek flowing into it.

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah

Created by Vmenkov (talk). Nominated by Vmenkov (talk) at 01:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: I have no idea whether Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah's hometown was within the borders of today's Iran (rather than say, Afghanistan or Uzbekistan), but Shakh Rukh's embassy is described by Anglo-American academics (e.g., Timothy Brook) as "Persian". Contribution from anyone with the knowledge of the language and access to the primary source would be appreciated, at least for spelling the person's name in the original script! -- Vmenkov (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 30

825th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 13:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Bombing of Singapore (1944–1945)

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Anthony Roberts (basketball)

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

White Boar

Created by Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 20:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Åre Old Church

Åre Old Church

Created by Philaweb (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Agustarello Affré

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Ada Adini

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, South Cowton

A stone church seen from a slight angle, with an embattled tower on the left, the nave in the centre, and the chancel on the right

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 10:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Reger-Chor

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Treaty of Bonn

5x expanded by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Srnec (talk) at 02:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

French ironclad Marengo

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Viktor Nemkov

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Nominated by Paralympiakos (talk) at 22:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Francisco Drinaldo

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton H-47

The last surviving Hamilton H-47 airliner

5x expanded by RuthAS (talk). Nominated by TSRL (talk) at 20:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


David Einhorn (rabbi), Har Sinai Congregation

Photo of Rabbi David Einhorn

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1888-1913)

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 17:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

HMS Chatham (1812)

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

George Garrard

  • ... that artist George Garrard (1760-1826) made plaster models of farm animals, and successfully lobbied Parliament to introduce legislation to protect the copyright of British model-makers?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Safet Butka

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 14:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Isaac and Miria

Created by Itzjustdrama (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

John Franklin Alexander Strong

Black and white portrait of man with white wavy hair and handlebar mustache wearing a dark suit and white shirt with wing collar

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Danish Golden Age

C.W. Eckersberg: Woman Standing in Front of a Mirror, 1841

5x expanded by Ipigott (talk). Nominated by Elekhh (talk) at 12:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Haverfordwest election, 1571

Created by Claritas (talk). Nominated by Claritas (talk) at 12:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Suoi Chau Pha

Created by Anotherclown (talk). Self nom at 12:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Azotobacter

Azotobacter cells viewed in an optical microscope Instant pudding
Ice cream sundaes Ice Cream Dessert

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 11:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Nah - I think it's fine as is, perfectly accurate and no need to dilute the hook with extra words. You can equally say that a saw is used in the production of wooden objects, or whatever. Le Deluge (talk) 18:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
    Adding alginic acid would make the hook more accurate but less intriguing, thus fewer people would be interested to read the article. I think it is one of those cases when the hook doesn't need to describe all details. Materialscientist (talk) 21:40, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Rice production in Romania

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 09:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

The reference still points to the same site and a search facility can't be used as a reference. I've had a look for another source that could be used but haven't had any joy. Smartse (talk) 09:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

1957 Maryland Terrapins football team

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 05:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Bob Topp

to relay plays onto the field from the Browns' bench? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Spot-fixing

Created by Francium12 (talk). Nominated by Francium12 (talk) at 01:55, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Walter Eli Clark

Black-and-white head-and-shoulders portrait of a clean shaven man with dark hair in an early 20-th century business suit

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Redundant reference has been added to save reviewer from having to look to the end of a two sentence block that is supported by a single source. --Allen3  23:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

List of NME number-one singles from the 1970s

A black-and-white photograph of four males playing in a band; one drummer, two guitarists and a vocalist.

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 29

al-Mabda', Iraqi Communist Party (1960), Daud as-Sayegh, Ittihad ash-Sha'ab, Associations Law

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Metamora (shipwreck)

Wreck of the Metamora

  • ... that the Metamora sank near Pointe au Baril in 1907 and that part of the wreck (pictured) is still visible above the water?

Created by Captmondo (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Lorne Kidd Smith

Created by Nikkimaria (talk). Self nom at 04:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Mei Yamaguchi

Created by Jfgslo (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Promise Neighborhoods

Created by SteveChervitzTrutane (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Mimi Lo

Created by Music + Pageants (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Le Castle Vania

Created by Kindzmarauli (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton Hill, Schenectady, New York

Created by Camelbinky (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Alexander Pendarves

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Megaliths in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

Dolmen near Lancken-Granitz

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 05:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Tom Beckman

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The 30 years isn't that interesting (and long service is implied by a relatively senior job), it would be nice if it was something along the lines of "was in charge of new vehicle launches at General Motors when XXX model was launched"? Helps bring it home to people if they can link him to something they see on their streets every day. Le Deluge (talk) 10:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, the source does not identify a specific model or list of models. If the 30 year part is a concern, we could go with the following alt hook:

Valerie Bettis

5x expanded by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Andy Anderson (baseball)

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

George Roubicek

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 01:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

827th Tank Destroyer Battalion

  • ... that the 827th Tank Destroyer Battalion of the US Army was withdrawn from combat after less than a month's service, after reports that officers had threatened to shoot their own men?
  • ALT1:... that when first ordered into combat in 1945, the 827th Tank Destroyer Battalion of the US Army had three men shot in brawls before it even left camp?
  • Comment: I personally prefer the second, but I'm not sure how best to phrase it to make it clear they shot each other, rather than encountering opposition surprisingly early...

Created by Shimgray (talk). Nominated by Shimgray (talk) at 00:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Freedom of the press in Ukraine

Created by User:Mariah-Yulia (talk). Self nom at 23:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

J.D. Short

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 23:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ... that Japanese pagodas, with very rare exceptions, have an odd number of tiers?

Created by Urashimataro (talk). Nominated by Urashimataro (talk) at 23:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Gene Alderton

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 23:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Gil Chapman

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

LeFleur's Bluff State Park

5x expanded by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 22:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Legislative Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir

Created by S h i va (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 21:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Black Betsy

Created by Secret (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Wilford Bacon Hoggatt

Oval head-and-shoulders portrait of Wilford B. Hoggatt wearing early 20-th century business suit with standup shirt collar

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Lagrivea

  • ... that the fossil squirrel Lagrivea is characterized by deep basins in its teeth?

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Bombings in Mogadishu

Skyline of Mogadishu

Created by Neelix (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Taurus-Littrow

Created by Tyrol5 (talk). Self nom at 18:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I'm concerned about using a primary source. The quote used to reference the deepness is: "We landed in a valley that had mountains higher than the Grand Canyon is deep." I think saying a valley is X deep is different than saying the mountains surrounding a valley are X high. -Atmoz (talk) 21:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
ALT1:... that the mountains surrounding the Taurus-Littrow valley, the landing site of Apollo 17 on the Moon, are higher than the Grand Canyon is deep? Tyrol5 21:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
ALT1. Quicker than a cat. :-) -Atmoz (talk) 21:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Christos Adamidis

Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Appalachian cottontail

A brown rabbit in the grass

5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 17:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Nikephoritzes

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

John Bettesworth-Trevanion

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 16:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Somerset County Cricket Club in 1891

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: Does this mean that if this particular sports club survives for a thousand years, there might be over a thousand Misplaced Pages articles about it? I find this mildly concerning. Also, isn't a more interesting hook possible? Presumably lots of cricket clubs joined this championship in the 19th century, so there's nothing particular interesting about that - maybe a hook about their return being a reversal of their fortunes after being thrown out of first class competition previously? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Harrias 07:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

  • As for the "sports team X, in year Y" article naming... well, I give up. Such things generate endless press coverage and I've seen far more obscure sports clubs now getting similarly named WP articles, so I suppose the existence of local rags prepared to cover such things, will forever make it possible to have yearly articles about them - much like the local rock bands etc. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Réseau Breton 4-6-0 tank locomotives

E332, ex Réseau Breton, now preserved on the Chemin de Fer de la Baie de Somme

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 16:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)



Zennor Quoit

  • ... that in 1861, a local Cornish farmer proposed to destroy the ancient Zennor Quoit site but was prevented by the vicar who payed him a financial incentive to build his cowshed elsewhere?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Martin Dannenberg

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Kampung Boy (television series)

  • ... that American voice actors "kept slipping into a Jamaican accent" when voicing Malaysian characters in Kampung Boy?

Created by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1: ... that academics consider Kampung Boy the animated television series a cultural artefact, bearing witness to Malaysian society's rural-urban transition?

Current article size is 14 kB (2321 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

The Kampung Boy

  • ... that "naughty ones with ... bushy hair" fill the pages of The Kampung Boy?

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1: ... that to a Kampung Boy, having the foreskin of his penis sliced off is "just like an ant bite"?
  • ALT2: ... that Malaysian graphic novel The Kampung Boy was not first published in the country's official language and was later translated back to it?
  • ALT3: ... that the language in the United States version of Malaysian graphic novel The Kampung Boy was left mostly untouched because the publisher judged its customers capable of understanding foreign words?

I expanded the article from 3082 B (507 words) to 19 kB (3229 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Lat

A bespectacled man with a round face speaks behind a podium.

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1: ... that Lat (pictured) was made a datuk (a Malaysian knight) and a Professor of Anthropology and Sociology for drawing funny pictures of his fellow country men?
  • ALT2: ... that Paul McCartney's music inspires Lat (pictured) to draw fashionable girls?
  • ALT3: ... that Lat (pictured) found the inspiration to draw cartoons about circumcision while on assignment as a reporter to investigate dead bodies in a morgue?

Added two ALTs. Note that expansion is from 3532 B (598 words) to 35 kB (5872 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Added another ALT. Jappalang (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Incredible work. You are amazingly resourceful. This article is well on its way to becoming a feature. You should go for it. If you want any help copyediting just ask.21:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC) Dr. Blofeld

Thank you. I am indeed aiming for featured status, eventually; it is undergoing a peer review now. Jappalang (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

National Commission on Police Reform

Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Arvid G. Hansen, Arbeideren, Arbeidet

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Arbeideren (Hamar)

  • ... that competitors of the Hamar newspaper Demokraten (later Arbeideren) refused to mention it by name in their columns?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Ellen Hillingsø

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Angelli Spumante & Aperitive

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 10:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: I think this is problematic for two reasons, that this claim relies on a statement on the company's own web site, hardly third-party RS and more SELFPUB, and that it smacks of embellishment that is so common among company self-descriptions uninterested in neutral language. Yes it may well be "modern", but one of the most by whose standards? MURGH 15:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Jewish lawyer

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 03:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Oy vey... Object! The article is bad enough, but having this sentence on the front page is not this Jewish lawyer's idea of fun. -- Y not? 05:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC
Do you mean that I have crafted the article in a bad way or that the subject matter is itself bad? Christopher Connor (talk) 05:26, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
The article is dubious, but the proposed hook just promotes the stereotype. I've proposed a more acceptable hook below. Jayjg 05:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
  • No I didn't know that - because it's simply not true. At least not in Britain, as far as I'm aware. Just because the US has huge hangups about the race thing, there's no need to assume that the rest of the world labours under the same burden. Either make it clear that this is a US-specific stereotype, or perhaps better, do something with the German laws that targetted them. I didn't know about those, so that was more interesting for me in any case. You're always on safer ground talking about past prejudices than current ones - and on blaming bad stuff on the Nazis... Le Deluge (talk) 14:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Robert S. Ingersoll

  • ... that Borg-Warner CEO Robert S. Ingersoll supported "better housing, economic opportunities and voting rights for the colored race" , noting that the firm's "labor force will be increasingly Negro"?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Plebiscite Front

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 01:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Visa policy of South Korea

5x expanded by Crossmr (talk). Self nom at 01:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 28

Erminia Frezzolini

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Restoring Honor rally, Black-Robed Regiment, The Blaze (website)

Created by Hodgson-Burnett's Secret Garden (talk), Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 15:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Japanese aircraft carrier Hōshō

Aerial view of an aircraft carrier with three small funnels, an island, and both of her aircraft elevators are down.

  • ... that the Hōshō served as a repatriation transport after the end of World War II, returning some 40,000 soldiers and civilians to Japan?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Darryl Stonum

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Jack Carpenter (American football)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

John Cullen

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Nominated by Resolute (talk) at 00:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Ole Gausdal

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Labour Elector

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Yorkshire Factory Times

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Fred Bachrach

Created by Jackyd101. Nominated by Jackyd101 at 13:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

King of the Ring (2008)

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 07:28, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Star Wars Uncut

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 23:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

All Saints' Church, Harewood

A long stone church seen from the southeast with a low tower at the far end

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Haus des Meeres, Tourist attractions in Vienna

John Robert Monsell

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 16:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Zangmu Dam

Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 16:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Honor C. Appleton

  • ... that Honor C. Appleton illustrated more than 100 children's books between 1902 and 1950?

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 15:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Need to provide a footnote in the article to back up the claim in the hook. Apart from that the length and style is good. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 19:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 Done Susanne2009NYC (talk) 19:28, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, reference accepted in good faith - ready to go. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Bank Hall, Bretherton

A view from the gardens of Bank Hall, a jacobean style red brick mansion house in Lancashire during the spring of 2008.

Created by User:Bankhallbretherton (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Comprehensive and interesting article, but not new or significantly expanded so far as I can see. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

H. Willebeek Le Mair

  • ... that Dutch illustrator H. Willebeek Le Mair published her first book Premières Rondes Enfantines in Paris in 1904 at the age of fifteen?

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 14:23, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Lectionary 283 and Biblioteca Communale

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Lectionary 283 is housed at the Biblioteca Communale in Siena since 1786? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Still not exactly fascinating... how about;
ALT2 ... that the first five columns of Lectionary 283, a Greek manuscript of New Testament gospel lessons housed at the Biblioteca Communale in Siena, are written in gold? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Drežnik Viaduct

Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 13:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Eugène Olaussen

  • ... that Eugène Olaussen, a one-time personal acquaintance of Lenin, shifted view and wrote in Nazi publications during WWII?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Prince Nikolaus of Thurn and Taxis (1885–1919)

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Old Holy Trinity Church, Wentworth

A stone church seen from a slight angle, with a flet-topped tower at the left, then the ruined south wall of the nave, and on the right part of the chancel

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Vistula delta Mennonites

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Millicent Sowerby

  • ... that Millicent Sowerby illustrated 30 sets in the Postcards for the Little Ones series, and was one of the first to illustrate Alice in Wonderland when it went out of copyright in 1907?

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 11:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Axel Drolsum

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Amir Nachumi

Israeli Air Force F-4 Phantom

Created by Poliocretes (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • When? Which war?
"He scored 7 aerial kills " is rather brutal isn't it? "Scored" looks horrid, almost like it is a computer game rather than human lives. Dr. Blofeld 21:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Seconded, this type of language is not suitable for an encyclopedia. --Soman (talk) 04:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
This is commonly used language when discussing such matters, even on Misplaced Pages. Flying ace - "He scored the most kills in World War I"; VFA-2 - "scored aerial kills"; Richard Minifie - "went on to score seventeen aerial victories"; Fred J. Christensen - "scored 21.5 aerial victories". The list goes on and on, there's nothing unencyclopedic about it.
OK, how about : ALT2: ... that Amir Nachumi was credited with 7 aerial victories while flying the F-4 Phantom II (pictured) during the Yom Kippur War and 7 victories flying the F-16 Fighting Falcon during fighting over Lebanon in the early 1980s? Poliocretes (talk) 07:39, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
My preference would be that we are happy to say on the front page, exactly what we say in the article. Poliocrates is right, "kills" is standard usage - for nearly 100 years - and entirely encyclopedic. It is perhaps worth pointing out that the "kill" is of an aircraft, not of its pilot. To use "victories" instead, is almost a case of providing a euphemism. On the other hand "credited with" is reasonable, if people really have a problem with "scored". Fighter pilots celebrate victories just like other professionals do, it's not unreasonable. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Lourdes Robles

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 08:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 08:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Deriner Dam

5x expanded/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 07:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Latin Grammy Award for Best New Artist

5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 05:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC). Nominated by Jaespinoza (talk) 05:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC) at 05:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

The Gulf Stream (painting)

Man and sharks

5x expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by JNW (talk) at 04:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


1941 Stanford Indians football team

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Margaret Tarrant

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 03:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Bangladesh Khelafat Majlish

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 02:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I'll go with this one (I've taken the liberty of removing the words "electoral" and "current", and added "had", since this pact expired well before the 2008 election that brought her to power. Shiva (Visnu) 18:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 27

Walter Pilliet

formal photo of a standing man wearing a jacket

  • ... that Walter Pilliet (pictured) was popular in the New Zealand settlement of Akaroa, where many French settlers lived, as he spoke both English and French?
  • Comment: Prose size (text only): 270 B prior to expansion, which was started on 27 August. Prose size now (text only): 6393 B

5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk), Karamiahongjoo (talk). Self nom at 09:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)



De zaak Natalee Holloway

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Jack Karwales

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Valonia ventricosa

Green bubble algae

Created by User:Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by User:Theornamentalist (talk) at 02:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • You're right, it should be singular, it sounds strange to me, although not stated in the reference singularly as in "sailors' eyeball" regarding a single specimen, can we assume that it would be properly used as that... as in..
ALT2 ... that a "sailors' eyeball" (pictured) is one of the largest single-celled organisms?
Let me know what you think - Theornamentalist (talk) 12:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
An indefinite article sounds odd to me here. Need an opinion from a grammar expert. Materialscientist (talk) 22:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Double-headed serpent

Head and half the body of a model of a snake

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk) 15:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Yukon Wolf

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 20:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Suzy Spafford

  • ... that cartoonist Suzy Spafford, creator of the whimsical animal characters known as Suzy's Zoo, has been drawing since she was 3 years old?

5x expanded by MelanieN (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Ovachlamys fulgens

lateral left side view of the snail

Created by Snek01 (talk). Nominated by Snek01 (talk) at 11:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Horňácko

Windmill in Kuželov

  • ... that the folk festival (pictured) held in Horňácko is focused solely on the authentic folklore of the region?

Created by Vejvančický (talk), Hrdinský (talk). Nominated by Vejvančický (talk) at 09:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Ceratobasidium cornigerum

5x expanded by RunningClam (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 05:14, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

E. Normus Johnson, Big Johnson

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Wayne Ambler

Manager Connie Mack in the dugout Professional baseball player Wayne Ambler

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • date, length, primary hook all check. However, if a picture is used, it should be the picture of Ambler, who is the subject of the article, not Connie Mack. Rlendog (talk) 02:15, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't think that's a specific rule. The Mack image is used in the Ambler article, so there shouldn't be an issue. I used it over the Ambler image in the first hook since it is a featured image. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 04:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
  • It may not be a specific rule, but the new article is about Ambler, and the hook is basically about Ambler (after all, Mack's activity here is probably not unique to Ambler) so the Ambler picture seems more relevant. I am not sure why Mack being a Featured Picture should override that. Rlendog (talk) 22:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Why use the picture of Mack when he is not mentioned in the hook?--Ishtar456 (talk) 14:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Maybe I should have noted this, but that's why I used two images. When it say's "pictured" by Mack's name, the image of Mack should be included. When it says "pictured" next to Ambler's name, his image should be used. Again, the only reason I used the image of Mack in the first hook was because it is a featured picture. For the other hooks, the Ambler image should be used. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 19:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

But why use his picture at all? He is not mentioned in the hook.--Ishtar456 (talk) 20:28, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Yes he is. In the first hook it states, "Philadelphia Athletics manager Connie Mack (pictured)". In the rest of the hooks, the Ambler image should be used. That's why I put both of them in. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 20:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

sorry, my bad.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Atari 2600 homebrew

Atari 2600 homebrew game Duck Attack!

  • ... that over 100 Atari 2600 homebrew games have been created since the 2600 was withdrawn from the market in 1992?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Hook is not cited in article. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 23:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

The reference in the third paragraph of the article (where the hook appears) links to a page which lists 100+ entries... unless I'm misunderstanding? 28bytes (talk) 00:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I see - I was looking at the "History" section. I checked the source, but there does not appear to be anything there which verifies that the 100 games were released after the 2600 was withdrawn. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
The same source defines homebrew games as those being released in 1995 or later: (which is cited a little further down in the article.) Should that cite be moved further up? Or am I better off rephrasing the hook? 28bytes (talk) 00:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

No worries; all checked now. I added the citation to the sentence I had first noticed as well, since what that sentence says is more along the lines of the hook. Seems good to go! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:37, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! 28bytes (talk) 06:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Someone read the hook ... grammar or something is wrong Victuallers (talk) 11:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Philip Michael Faraday

  • ... that valuation expert Philip Michael Faraday composed comic operas before producing shows in the West End of London and managed to recover from a1914 bankruptcy?

Created by Tim riley (talk), Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 21:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Padusoy

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Joe Willie Wilkins

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Milk Pail Restaurant

The tan, gablefront Milk Pail Restaurant

Created by Teemu08 (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Who's That Girl (soundtrack)

5x expanded by Legolas2186 (talk) and Tbhotch (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Nazi government's withholding of Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach's passport was considered by the Dutch government to be "an insult to the Queen"? Ruby2010 (talk) 18:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Lead

A small chapel-like church seen from the south, with a bellcote at the left, a door and a single window

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Manila Police District

Black and white portrait of a bearded man in military uniform.

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the Manila Police District, with the motto "Manila's Finest," was harshly criticized with their handling of the Manila hostage crisis? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 19:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

St Peter's Church, Wintringham

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Michel Montignac

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Bartlett Dam

A concrete structure with arches and buttresses straddles a river, creating a lake.

5x expanded/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 12:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Miguel (singer)

Created by Explicit (talk). Nominated by Explicit (talk) at 08:38, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Crystal structure of boron-rich metal borides

ScB17C0.25 crystal structure. Boron icosahedra form rings (left) centered by a "tube" (right)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Jirrawun Arts

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Caerhays Castle

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Lee and Kennedy

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

exercise and music

  • ... that research on the interplay between exercise and music has found that faster-tempo music motivates people to work harder when performing at a moderate pace but that peak performance is unaffected?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on August 26

Vuno

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Sulmues (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Beaver Canyon Scenic Byway

  • ... that Utah's Beaver Canyon Scenic Byway is the 5th highest paved road in the state, at 9,200 feet (2,800 m), but that its unpaved portion rises even higher, at over 10,200 feet (3,100 m) in elevation?

Created by DeFaultRyan (talk). Nominated by DeFaultRyan (talk) at 23:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Luitingh-Sijthoff, Albertus Willem Sijthoff

A.W. Sijthoff

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 08:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


New England Cottontail

A running rabbit

5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 01:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Milford Oyster Festival

  • ALT1:... that the Milford Oyster Festival, billed the largest one-day festival in New England and listed among the top 10 annual events in Connecticut, draws over 50,000 attendees each year?
  • Comment: fact in main hook not directly in text of source, but in the video that is embedded there.

Created by Codehydro (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

King of the Ring (1997)

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 15:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Somawathiya National Park, Flood Plains National Park, Maduru Oya National Park

Savanna grasslands of Maduru Oya National Park

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Rogelio Álvarez

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Committee of 100 on the Federal City

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Nathan Redmond

Created by Will bcfc (talk). Nominated by Struway2 (talk) at 13:04, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Jenkins' whipray

A brown, diamond-shaped ray in very shallow water, over a sandy bottom

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't quite understand what the issue to be addressed is? -- Yzx (talk) 21:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Darrell Harper

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 03:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Tlayacapan

Chinelos dancers

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Musselbed Shoals Light

The Musselbed Shoals Light before expansion in 1925

Created by Mangoe (talk). Nominated by Mangoe (talk) at 23:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Operation Lucid

  • ... that Operation Lucid was a British plan to use fire ships to attack invasion barges that were gathering in ports on the northern coast of France in preparation for a German invasion of Britain in 1940?

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Ye Xiaowen

Created by Quigley (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Kai G. Henriksen

5x expanded by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 21:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Jack Newnes

Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 21:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

St James' Church, Stretham

Parish church with steeple

Created by Senra (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Looks good except for one point: the hook cite is for the fact that JB Joyce & Co is the oldest firm of tower clockmakers in the world, but does not tell us that the Turret clock is made by that firm. How do we know who made that clock? hamiltonstone (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The clockmaker is sourced in reference and (from this page version) at the end of the relevant hooked sentence. I realise may not be WP:RS but I only put it in to help DYK volunteers as the build plans folder is not digitally available --Senra (Talk) 09:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I moved what was reference to the end of the clause forming the hook. I hope this helps clarify --Senra (Talk) 12:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Senra, all good. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Saint Endelienta

  • ... that the Cornish Saint Endelienta is believed to have subsisted on the milk of a cow?

5x expanded by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 20:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

  date, length, citation of hook
suggested Alt:
Thanks for the alternative suggestion, sounds good to me. Says a bit more about who she was. TheRetroGuy (talk) 12:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

2010 New York City cab stabbing

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 20:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

If you feel as such, then you should put it up for AfD and that would stall this nomination until the AfD's completion. Otherwise, your opinion of its notability doesn't matter in terms of the nomination. Silverseren 20:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Apart from that, the hook is rather bland; the fact that a mayor doesn't quite like it when someone is attacked in his city is not especially surprising. Ucucha 20:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
As long as the nominator agrees, how about...

currently at AfD. -Atmoz (talk) 21:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Holy Trinity Church, Wensley

A long stone church in a graveyard, see from the northeast, with a north vestry, and a tower at the far end

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Helen Chinoy

  • ... that the books Actors on Acting and Directors on Directing by Helen Chinoy, collections of essays about theatre, have been used widely as college texts and remained in print for more than 50 years?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

This sentence "She wrote an essay to introduce the book, which has been used over the years as a college textbook" needs a citation and the other book mentioned here needs to have the same thing said about it in the article as in the hook and needs citation.--Ishtar456 (talk) 11:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

the cited source does not say Actors on Acting was used as college text. I reworded as follows:

date, length and citation verified "... that the book Directors on Directing by Helen Chinoy, collections of essays about theatre, have been used widely as college text and remained in print for more than 50 years?"--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Palasë

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Sulmues (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Menarsha synagogue attack

Created by Chesdovi (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

  • date and hook citation length should be 1500 characters or more, this is only 1327. Also I suggest This Alt: ... that nobody was ever convicted for the 1949 Menarsha synagogue attack in Syria, in which 12 people were killed?

--Ishtar456 (talk) 04:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I have expanded it. Instead of "in which 12 people were killed" maybe "which left 12 people dead" is better? Chesdovi (talk) 22:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
  • length good now. This is the Alt agreed upon by both reviewer and nominator:
... that nobody was ever convicted for the 1949 Menarsha synagogue attack in Syria, which left 12 people dead?--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

L'Hermitage Slave Village Archeological Site

L'Hermitage slave village archaeological excavations in an open field beyond two farm buildings

5x expanded by Acroterion (talk| Self nom at 16:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Houston Stackhouse

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

David Rowland

  • ... that the 40/4 stacking chair created by David Rowland, which won the grand prize at the 1965 Milan Triennale, got its name from the fact that 40 chairs could be nested in a stack 4 feet (120 cm) high?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Tabley House

A symmetrical Palladian house in three storeys, constructed in stone and brick, with a central portico containing four large columns

  • ... that the manor of Nether Tabley in Cheshire, including Tabley Old Hall and Tabley House (pictured), was owned by the Leicester family for almost exactly 700 years?

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Expansion and hook ref look OK. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Pisidia longicornis

A small, red, crab-like animal with three pairs of legs and one pair of enlarged claws.

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


St. James Episcopal Church (Grosse Ile, Michigan), Lisette Denison Forth

Side elevation of St. James Episcopal Church, showing red entrance doors dedicated to Lisette Denison Forth

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 11:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The fuller story is that Lisette Denison Forth was born a slave, and a) ran away to Canada, established residency, and returned to Michigan a free woman, b) worked for much (but not all) of the rest of her life as a maid for a succession of important people, c) became good friends with her employers, d) invested her money wisely, and was one of the few African-Americans to own stock and property, e) left the bulk of her estate to establish an Episcopal church; and f) said church was built after her death in upper-class white Grosse Ile. I find each of those points interesting, and the package fascinating, and tried to jam as much as I could into the hook, but alternate versions are welcome. Sorry for the rambling, but these two articles turned out to be more interesting than I thought they would be going in. IMO, obviously. Andrew Jameson (talk) 11:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Also note the alt text of the image. Andrew Jameson (talk) 11:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Goodnestone Park

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:37, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Abrázame Muy Fuerte (song)

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Little Zab, Great Zab

A river meandering through a hilly, sparsely wooded country

  • Comment: Double nom

Created/expanded by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 02:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on August 25

John Ericsson class monitor

Rear-quarter view of a monitor with one turret forward and one funnel amidships. Her deck is crowded with people.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


French ironclad Triomphante

A large white warship at anchor. It has three masts, with furled sails, and one funnel amidships.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


French ironclad Victorieuse

A white-painted warship with three masts and a funnel amidships. Open gunports are visible on the ship's side.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ?? - I counted 202 characters in the hook. They are supposed to be under 200 characters. Could someone else check I counted by hand and my character counting too doesn't work on my current PC. Dincher (talk) 22:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


French ironclad La Galissonnière

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Brazilian monitor Pará

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Brazilian monitor Rio Grande

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Pará class monitor

  • ... that the gun turret of the Brazilian Pará-class monitor was manually rotated by four men via a system of gears and required 2.25 minutes for a full 360° rotation?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Brazilian monitor Alagoas

  • ... that during the Brazilian Fleet Revolt of 1893–94 the rebel river monitor Alagoas had to be towed into position to fire on the government forts in Rio de Janeiro because her engines had been removed?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Brazilian monitor Santa Catharina

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Bắc Giang, Bắc Kạn, Cao Bang, Ha Giang, Lang Son, Lao Cai, Phu Tho, Quang Ninh, Thai Nguyen, Tuyen Quang and Yen Bai

Đông Bắc (North East Vietnam)

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), YellowMonkey (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

11 article hook nom. Articles are gradually being improved. Reference will be added to support that the provinces all belong to this region. Dr. Blofeld 18:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Date, length verified (some articles moved from userspace). Great, but unfinished job. Please copyedit all 11 (I only quickfixed typos without really reading the articles), wikilink, expand some leads, etc. Lao Cai Province still contains untranslated text; some data are missing in Tuyên Quang Province. Materialscientist (talk) 04:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Lombok International Airport

Created by Felix505 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Jurek Wilner

5x expanded by Radeksz (talk). Nominated by Radeksz (talk) at 10:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Date and 5x+ expansion verified. At 205 characters, the hook is currently over the 200 character limit and needs to be shortened. I also think the hook is trying to pack a bit too much information - it may be a good idea to simplify it a little. Nsk92 (talk) 14:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • OK, thanks, ALT1 is good in terms of length. There is still one minor issue. The sentence in the article verifying the hook fact occurs at the end of the first paragraph in the "During the war" section. The sentence has a footnote to ref item no 2, the book of Hanna Krall, "The subtenant ; To outwit God". I think you need to specify the page number(s), at least for this particular occurrence of the ref since the book is quite long. From using the googlebooks preview it seems that the relevant page for the hook fact is p. 229. Nsk92 (talk) 01:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

MV Mariam

  • Comment: Currently awaiting closure at AfD.

5x expanded by ME202012 (talk), Mjroots (talk), Drmies (talk), Djembayz (talk and Haus (talk). Nominated by Haus (talk) at 12:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Ryan Boyle

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Geothermal power in Indonesia

Picture of geothermal test boring at Kawah Kamojang, a large plume of steam rises up from the wellhead, dwarfing the man standing by

Created by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Date, length, ref for hook fact and image all OK. I've tweaked the hook and ALT1 slightly and also the alt text to make it descriptive - interesting article. Mikenorton (talk) 14:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Microhyla nepenthicola

Created by Kazvorpal (talk), ErikHaugen (talk), Mgiganteus1 (talk), and Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 01:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Carnegie (ship), Carnegie Ridge

Map of aseismic ridges and plate boundaries off northwestern South America showing proposed subducted part of Carnegie Ridge

  • Comment: Carnegie Ridge started from a redirect

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 20:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Waco Cubs

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Seymour Island (Nunavut)

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

2010 Irwin Tools Night Race

5x expanded by Nascar1996 (talk). Nominated by NerdyScienceDude (talk) at 23:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Albany City Hall

Engraving of a three-story structure with a stoop and a cupola

5x expanded by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • How about:
... that one of Albany, New York's former city halls (pictured) was the location of the 1754 Albany Congress, where Benjamin Franklin proposed the Albany Plan of Union? upstateNYer 02:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Newfoundland 2 dollar coin

Newfoundland 2 dollar coin

  • ALT1:.. that while originally a gold dollar was planned for Newfoundland's currency, the denomination was changed to two dollars (reverse pictured) over concerns it would be lost due its small size and value?

Created by Zmyrst (talk). Self nom at 22:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I don't think the original hook is accurate. The Australian colonies struck gold coins. Of course, they were mostly British sovereigns, but some said they were Australian.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Sovereigns were struck in the Ottawa Mint too, for example, but they were bullion. This coin though was intended for circulation, which I've put explicitly in the hook to avoid the problem with the sovereigns. Zmyrst (talk) 01:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Looks good to me.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Emmanuel Rodríguez

Created by Caribbean H.Q.(talk). Self nom at 22:48, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Krka Bridge

Krka Bridge

Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Macedonia under the Ottoman Empire

Created by Local hero (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: The title, "Ottoman-era Republic of Macedonia", sounds a bit strange to a casual reader. The first impression on seeing it is, "What, was there a Republic of Macedonia in the days of the Ottoman Empire - perhaps something like the Paris Commune or the "Zheltuga Republic"? IMHO, something like "Macedonia under the Ottoman rule" would sound a lot better, unless you want to strictly (and anachronistically) focus the article on the events that took place within the borders of today's (FY)ROM, rather than with the 3 vilayets (Skopje, Bitola , and Salonica) that were commonly considered as "Macedonia" back then. -- Vmenkov (talk) 02:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Arad–Szeged pipeline

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Norman Walsh

5x expanded by Greenshed (talk), ColonelHyde (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

St. Ninian's Church, Tynet

St. Ninian's Church

Created by AMuseo (AMuseo). Self nom at 25 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1 that St. Ninian's Church, Tynet is the oldest post-Reformation Catholic Church in Scotland?

Pierre-Augustin Hulin

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT3:... that, after the storming of the Bastille, revolutionary and future French general Pierre-Augustin Hulin unsuccessfully tried to save the life of the prison's governor —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCI2026 (talkcontribs) 12:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Coprinellus impatiens

  • ... that young specimens of the mushroom Coprinellus impatiens have a powdery stem that eventually sloughs off to leave a smooth surface?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Little Syria, Manhattan

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:16, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Very strongly oppose ALT1 and ALT2, or indeed anything that doesn't mention New York. There are dozens if not thousands of controversial proposed mosque complexes worldwide—any proposal to build something that will attract large crowds of people always causes controversy—and there's no earthly reason why any reader outside New York should be expected to guess what you're referring to. (I imagine that most European readers would presume that "controversial proposed mosque complex" refers to Abbey Mills Mosque or the Cologne Mosque project.) – iridescent 16:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Hygrophorus eburneus

White mushroom on a stick connected by slime to a finger

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


Scott Barry

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Nominated by Killervogel5 (talk) at 16:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I actually didn't know the same guy had all these ejections (the Howard one, as the most recent and rather large, is the one that I knew about), interesting. Just meets the prose size criteria. I found myself reading it thinking it was written casually every time I saw "Barry " and then I remembered that's his last name and not his first. :p Staxringold talk 16:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Lactarius sanguifluus

Two mushrooms on the ground placed side by side

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


Dale Warren

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 14:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Phobjika Valley, Black-necked Cranes in Bhutan, Gangteng Monastery

Entrance gate to Gangteng Monastery

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:29, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Note: It is triple article hook. The first two articles are new and the third one is an expansion.

air bag vest

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest

Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest

  • Comment: The source of the hook fact is in German, but it's quite clear how he did it from images on page 24 of the source

Created by Worm That Turned (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

It's working fine for me, and I'm at work, with a fairly restrictive connection. It's an online scanned in version of the journal. -- WORMMЯOW  07:37, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

If there is a problem... how about

Hong Bao

5x expanded by Vmenkov (talk). Self nom at 05:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Nice hook, but the article needs some Wikification. Addition of dates of birth/death, Ming Dynasty not Ming Empire and the map as it stands is not verifiable "A likely route" is pure speculation.

Philg88  16:30, 19 January 2025 UTC

Good point on the dates. The thing is, pretty much everything we know about Hong Bao (and about most other personalities and activities of Zheng He fleet) is on about the same level. Someone has talked me into proofreading the Zheng He article on the Russian wiki, so I got myself all the books that took about the personalities involved - Dreyer, Levathes, Tsai - and none of them has the birth of death dates for the guy. The Chinese articles, which reported finding his grave as a big news, did not give his life dates either, which most likely means that they don't know either; normally, they do give this kind of background when ity's available. Accordingly, I've put in floruit dates now.
The "Ming Empire"... I don't mind rewording it, but I believe it's a common way to refer to the nation state ruled by the emperors of the Ming Dynasty. It's used in plenty of books, including e.g. the Cambridge History of China: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbo=1&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22ming+empire%22 ; just like we often talk about the "Hapsburg Empire" or "Ottoman Empire", for example.
As to the map, I explain what the sources are. It is a speculation of course, but it is based on the best available modern research (i.e., Edward L. Dreyer's analysis of who must have gone where and in what order, during the best documented voyage of Zheng He's fleet). Basically, about the solid line Dreyer (and other historians) are pretty sure, because they consider the existing detailed source trustworthy, and it appears in a similar fashion on a map in Dreyer's book. What's shown by dashed and dotted lines is more conjectural. First, the list of places visited is based on believing that the "primary source" (Ma Huan, and whoever provided info that eventually ended up in the History of Ming - Wang Jinghong probably) actually went where they said they went, and did not get the whole story from talking to other travelers in a Calicut tavern. Second, ordering of the destinations required some guesswork on the part of the historians involved, and there are different interpretations; but what I've drawn is based on what Dreyer thought was most likely. As you see, I am quite sparing on lines - lots of places are just shown as circles, because the historians believe they were visited by some squadrons, but don't try to set forth a complete itinerary. One can see that there are plenty of "Zheng He travel" maps around ( http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22zheng+he%22+map ), and they all are somewhat different, but it's the same with Marco Polo or almost any other medieval traveller, or really with most other historical maps that go several centuries into the past. -- Vmenkov (talk) 15:55, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
My point on the Ming is that in Chinese terms it was a dynasty (明代 Ming Dai) and that is the way it is generally referred to across WP in English. As for the map, maybe change "likely" to "possible" or "suggested"?
Best, Philg88  16:30, 19 January 2025 UTC
Sure, "possible route" sounds good. Changed the caption as suggested. As to "Ming Dynasty" vs. "Ming Empire" - for me, "Ming Dynasty" as an equivalent to 明代 (Ming Dai) or 明朝 ("Ming Chao"), i.e. the dynasty of rulers or the historical period, while "Ming Empire" is an equivalent for something like 明帝国 (Ming Diguo) or 大明国 (Da Ming Guo), i.e. the name of the state itself. But since Edward L. Dreyer himself in his book does not actually use the expression "Ming Empire" (he has "Ming China" for the country, or "during the early decades of the Ming Dynasty", "the early Ming period", etc., I have changed the wording to avoid the expression that you find inopportune in the context. -- Vmenkov (talk) 13:31, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Looks good to go Philg88  16:30, 19 January 2025 UTC

Sarcoscypha dudleyi, William Russell Dudley

A ref fungus growing on a stick

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Five Punishments

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 14:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • There are actually 16 inline citations which I would have thought was enough for an article of this size. As for the list format, this is a Chinese legal code and the original is laid out that way - I don't know how else the information can be presented without it looking a mess.
Philg88  19 January 2025

Cortinarius anomalus, Cortinarius cinnamomeus, Cortinarius delibutus, Cortinarius hemitrichus, Cortinarius infractus, Cortinarius praestans, Cortinarius purpurascens, Cortinarius traganus, Cortinarius varius

A yellow-capped mushroom with a bulbous stem growing in the ground.

  • Comment: The hook may be easily verified in one swoop by opening the PDF document "Recommended English Names for Fungi in the UK" (cited in all) and confirming that the common names used here are valid.

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


Edward Kean

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Bear in mind that Howdy Doody means absolutely nothing to a majority of en.wiki users. The cowabunga thing does have a global resonance, although it's a bit more complicated than the NYT reference makes out. Thunderthud actually said "kawabonga", and it was modified by surfers in the 1950s/60s to "cowabunga". However the lineage is clear, and in the NYT reference Kean claims credit directly for "cowabunga" so for the purposes of a 200-character hook, I think we can say he was the inventor of cowabunga. I can't quite believe that I've just spent time sorting out the etymology of cowabunga on Wikitionary, but such is life - its old en.wiki page used to get 3000+ hits a month, so it's worth nailing down. How about the following, or variants thereof :
  • ALT1... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" for a TV show about a US Presidential candidate?
  • ALT2... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" and tried to put a puppet President in the White House? Le Deluge (talk) 09:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT3... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" during the mock presidential campaign of puppet, Howdy Doody? I disagree that Howdy Doody should be taken out of the hook, as he has a lot of meaning to the people who do recognize him and is a major reason for continuing to read the article.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Humphrey Atherton

Execution of Ann Hibbins, Sketch by F.T. Merril

Created/expanded by Ishtar456 (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC) NOTE: this article was on a user page until 8/25/2010. so I interpret that to be the start date.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Really? I've seen a couple for example John Howland.--Ishtar456 (talk) 12:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Yea, well I guess above ground tomb. I have seen a few tombstones. I don't think it's bad and fits the article.--NortyNort (Holla) 15:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Tom Stouch

Created by Secret (talk). Nominated by Secret (talk) at 01:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • date
  • length
  • citation of hook, what page is that on?

Sorry, forgot to sign,--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

All I see on page 15 is that Stouch was impressed with his hitting (I'd like to see those blue streaks myself) and never forgot his name. I see nothing about Stouch discovering him.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

    • Then it says on page 16 that Stouch became manager of the Greenville Spinners keep reading it, he signed Joe Jackson from the mills in baseball termonolgy its discovering a player. Doesn't exactly use "discover" though other books (mostly juvenile fiction) and the Sporting News uses that word. Secret 00:40, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I changed the wording a bit to make it fit.--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Better? Secret 00:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

my last edit timed out and I lost it but I said something like: I'm not trying to find the word "discovered", but at least something close to it. Page 16 comes closer, but since the source says everyone knew Joe and what he was capable of, I can't say that it says he "discovered" him. But he did give him a higher paying gig and that was important so I suggested something like: "... that minor league baseball manager Tom Stouch gave baseball player Shoeless Joe Jackson a position that advanced his career?" and use page 16 for the citation.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
What about the hook above, he started his professional career with Stouch. His career consisted of mill teams and such which isn't professional baseball. Thanks Secret 02:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

From reading the source, I got the impression that Joe was already getting paid for playing baseball before he was hired by Stouch. That would mean he was already a professional bb player. Am I wrong in that understanding? The way your suggested alternative is written I find that first pronoun "his" ambiguous. There are two men being spoken about-I'm confused and by "his team" -did he own it?, -did he manage it? This is my last ditch suggestion:

add the citation (page 16) to that fact ("by signing him to the Greenville Spinners" )in the article and you will be good to go. Or refer to a "mill team" as semi-pro, and make the distinction between the two teams a little clearer in the article, and add the citation, and you can use the Alt you suggested.--Ishtar456 (talk) 15:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I added the citation for the alt. Secret 21:38, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Jordan of Laron

Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 22:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 24

Church of Scientology editing on Misplaced Pages

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 04:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Southland Corp. v. Keating

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 15:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

George Oliver Plunkett

Created by Philipjelley (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 13:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

1868 Ecuador earthquakes

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

King of the Ring (2000)

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 15:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Hans Tambs Lyche

5x expanded by Hauganm (talk), Oceanh (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 23:49, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

James Mourilyan Tanner

  • ... that the Tanner scale, developed by Dr. James Mourilyan Tanner, measures sexual maturation in adolescents based on size of the genitals and the quantity of pubic hair?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

HD 10180

  • ... that astronomers have detected evidence of as many as seven planets orbiting the star HD 10180, making it the most populated exoplanetary system known to date?

Created by WolfmanSF (talk), Icalanise (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Kloster Berge school

  • ... that a round tower was built to house the Kloster Berge school after a schoolmaster hanged himself in the cloister previously used for classes?

5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

KRMS

5x expanded by Dravecky (talk), Neutralhomer (talk). Nominated by Dravecky (talk) at 08:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Yes, I'm aware that the article currently at AfD but it's snowing over there and I expect resolution shortly. My access to the internet will be spotty over the next couple of days and I didn't to let the nomination window close before this was resolved. - Dravecky (talk) 08:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
  • The article was kept fairly handily so it's cleared for DYK purposes. - Dravecky (talk) 05:28, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Azerbaijan National Carpet Museum

The Azerbaijan National Carpet Museum in Baku, a large stonebbuilding in classical style, surrounded by collonades

Created by Lava22T (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 21:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Date, length, hook ref and image all OK, I think that ALT1 is the more interesting - where else would you expect to find the world's largest collection of Azerbaijani carpets? Mikenorton (talk) 19:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


The war to end war

Created by Scolaire (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 21:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm flattered, but puzzled. Why pipe it to "The war to end all wars" when the term verifiably was "The war to end war"? Scolaire (talk) 19:45, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Because I thought people were more familiar with "The war to end all wars" than "the war to end war". Anyway, I changed it back since you seem to prefer "the war to end war". Hope you like it. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:31, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. What if we lose the "later years" and the "became" and just have the following? Scolaire (talk) 22:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Newton Hills State Park

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I like ALT2. I prefer a hook about Pumpkin Chunking which sounds like a good bit of fun. Dincher (talk) 22:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Scarecrow (wine)

Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The sentence that say that 800 cases are produced annually is not supported by ref 3 which says about 400, if you can either change it to 400 or provide a source for the 800, then this will ready to go, as date, length and hook ref are fine. Mikenorton (talk) 18:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes. One ref says 470 (2003 vintage), another 800 (2005 vintage), and the third approximates 400 cases, so I try another solution offering the 400-800 range with all sources. How does that work? MURGH 20:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Aqueduct of the Gier

Description of the image

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)


Lynching of Laura and Lawrence Nelson

photograph

Created by SlimVirgin (talk). Nominated by SlimVirgin (talk) at 20:00, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I am a newbie in this topic, thus forgive my naive questions/comment: (i) Laura Nelson pictured strikes me odd next to this photo. (ii) The article says "4,743 people lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968" thus why those two individuals were selected to its name and focus? Shouldn't the article cover a wider scope? (don't know if such article already exists on WP, e.g. Lynching in the United States)? In other words, I have doubts this event is notable for an individual article. Materialscientist (talk) 23:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I've considerably expanded the article further since SV nominated it. It certainly is notable - apart from being the subject of considerable coverage in multiple sources and a significant controversy at the time, it also prompted a number of protest songs from the singer Woody Guthrie, whose father Charley participated in the lynching. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
  • In case the concern is over the hook, I've suggested an alternative hook which highlights a unique aspect of the case that ties in with a widely known figure in American culture. From my own experience, I've found that DYKs with hooks that present an unexpected fact tend to be quite effective. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Minnesota Mr. Basketball

  • ... that Kevin Noreen, current Minnesota Mr. Basketball, is the highest scoring basketball player in Minnesota high school history?

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Nominated by Editorofthewiki (talk) at 20:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

St John the Baptist's Church, Stanwick

A stone church in a graveyard seen from the southwest, with a prominent battlemented tower and the body of the church and porch stretching behind it

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Mickell Gladness

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

1956 Maryland Terrapins football team

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 03:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 23

Mikołaj Błociszewski

Created by Camdan (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 19:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Matt Striebel

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • - is fine for DYK as far as length, date and refs go, but is he notable? Not much of a lacrosse fan, but his stats don't seem to be overly impressive. Dincher (talk) 23:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Parke Lane Road-Thorofare Canal Bridge

Deck of Parke Lane Road-Thorofare Canal Bridge

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 20:10, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Hmmm, well there was a nice image of the arch in the article before, presumably it was deleted because of copyright problems. I agree that the image you have provided is unfortunately neither illustrative nor interesting. Gatoclass (talk) 12:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Woodlawn, Schenectady, New York

  • ... that Schenectady, New York's Woodlawn neighboorhood makes up 22.5% of the city's land area, but generates only 17.9% of the city’s property tax revenue?

Created by Camelbinky (talk). Self nom at 19:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Sam Mills (company)

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The topics are completely unrelated and it is no suprise someone should share such a common name, so at the very least you should come up with an alt hook. Another problem is that the article is almost entirely devoid of independent sources, I would like to see a couple more in there. Gatoclass (talk) 02:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT 1... that the Sam Mills company produces around 2,400 tonnes of dried pasta monthly in around 30 shapes and sizes?
  • Still not very interesting. I would say the only interesting or notable thing about this company would be the fact that it supplies 40% of the Romanian corn pasta market, so would go with that as a hook. Gatoclass (talk) 12:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

2010 Manila hostage crisis

  • ... that the hostage-taker in the 2010 Manila hostage crisis was named as one of the Ten Outstanding Policemen of the Philippines in 1986?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 17:14, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Note that this "might" make it to WP:ITN: if it does, perhaps it can be added once it falls off the ITN list? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:05, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Carrier Strike Group Ten

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Nominated by Marcd30319 (talk) at 14:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Toilet water

  • ... that Napoleon set in place in the early nineteenth century the observance that men's toilet water had to be only a citrus or "woody" scent, which wasn't changed until the 1960s?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 14:24, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Note to approving editor: I have NOT withdrawn the submission, but just withdrew the original hook and substituted ALT1 in its place.--Doug Coldwell 16:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • As of now, the article has under 1,100 characters of prose, short of the required 1,500. The prose in the bulleted comparison is not counted as prose. You can consider putting that text into paragraph form or adding additional material to meet the minimum. Alansohn (talk) 20:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Toilet water = eau de toilette = perfume. I'm not sure that toilet water is suitably distinct from perfume to merit it's own article. The sourcing is not particularly strong either. Smartse (talk) 16:39, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Concern of image = changed to image of patent for a bottle for holding toilet water. Changed again to a picture I took.--Doug Coldwell 10:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
In the extensive research I have done on this topic, I have found many sources that definitely destinguish between the 3 main alcohol based perfumes. This is described under the section "Types of alcohol based perfumes" in the article. While toilet water = eau de toilette, it is not pure perfume. Perfume has a mixture of about 10-20% perfume oils, where Toilet water only has 2 to 6 percent of some type of perfume oil - definitely weaker. Also it is usually applied ONLY directly to the skin, where perfume would go on clothing and sometimes skin. Toilet waters cost much less than perfume. There are distinct definitions for "toilet water" (i.e. 'eau de toilette' from online dictionary where perfume is perfume definition)). Of the three styles of these perfume types, perfume and eau de Cologne, had an article already and Toilet water (eau de toilette) didn't have until I recently wrote up an article on it. Traditionally eau de Cologne is citrus scent based and is a man's fragrance. Toilet water does NOT have these specifications as a tradition. Also others talk of the difference between the three as is used in Reference #8. I have an inline Reference on every line, however IF you need additional References I can get them. Presently there are 19 inline References and 7 book sources. IF an inline Reference or book source is not satisfactory, I can replace it. Which ones are not satisfactory? Does this answer your concerns IF Toilet water deserves an article?--Doug Coldwell 18:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
The American druggist and pharmaceutical record, Volume 63 makes a definite distinction between perfume and "toilet water" here and The Scientific American cyclopedia of formulas shows a difference between perfume and toilet water here.--Doug Coldwell 18:49, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Reference #5 in the lede gives reference as defined for scientists in a perfumery lab between "Colognes, Perfumes, Scents, & Toilet Waters" in Glenn Poch's Bottle Collecting Newsletter 15 in their section Distinguishing Colognes, Perfumes, Scents, & Toilet Waters. It follows very close to the other source References given. Toilet water and perfume are not the same thing as that article explains.--Doug Coldwell 19:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I am not entirely sure if the two terms are synonyms, but your two links are totally consistent with them being synonyms. What is more, Misplaced Pages, as an encyclopedia (not a dictionary) covers closely related topics together in a single article. If there is a serious demarcation problem between toilet water and perfume, treating both in a single article might well be the best approach. Hans Adler 19:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I notice that perfume and eau de Cologne are two different articles. Toilet water is the third in this group, that while has a pleasing smell, is definitely different - like eau de Cologne is from perfume. In Nigel Groom's book The new perfume handbook he describes "Toilet Water" on page 329. He talks of Hungary Water and Florida Water being examples of Toilet Water, just like I described in my article. There are many differences between perfume and Toilet Water and it warrents an article to explain this. Looking at "Category:Incense" there are some 49 pages - not all in one article, but 49 distinct articles describing each one, even though they are similiar. Agarwood is different than Sandalwood, although similiar have definite different characteristics. Both are fragrant woods, but both have different articles. Not all flowers are grouped into one article, since each flower is distinctly different even though they smell perfumery.--Doug Coldwell 20:32, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
It looks to me like there are over 200 articles related to flowers. Within that there are Azalea and Rhododendron - basically the same genus, however two different articles. In the Rhododendron article are listed over a dozen different types of Rhododendrons, all different articles - although basically the same flower types. There are definite differences and therefore different articles - just like there are differences in perfume, eau de cologne and toilet water, therefore toilet water is justified in having an article by itself. There are plenty of references to show this consisting of 23 book sources and 47 inline references.--Doug Coldwell 21:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Addiction to ether consumption

Created by Ouro (talk). Self nom at 12:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 22

Heu-Aktion

Created by MyMoloboaccount (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 19:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Unhyeongung

Actors portraying King Gojong and Empress Myeongseong during the Reenactment of the Royal Wedding Ceremony.

  • ... that Unhyeongung (Unhyeon Palace), known as Unhyeongung Royal Residence, is the site of the Royal Wedding Ceremony, a reenactment that takes place in the spring and fall every year in Seoul South Korea, of King Gojong and Empress Myeongseong’s (Queen Min) Royal Wedding Ceremony that took place on the grounds of Unhyeon Palace on March 21, 1866?

5x expanded by Steve46814 (talk). Nominated by Steve46814 (talk) at 20:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT 1... that Unhyeongung (Unhyeon Palace) in Seoul South Korea is the site of the twice yearly reenactment of King Gojong and Queen Min's Royal Wedding Ceremony that took place here in 1866?

Wine humour

Fairview's goats do roam

  • ... that Cat's Pee on a Gooseberry Bush and Goats Do Roam are examples of wine humour?

Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 13:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


Bob Latshaw

  • ... that Bob Latshaw managed minor league baseball for eight seasons, though he only managed three seasons completely?

Created by Alexsautographs (talk). Nominated by Alexsautographs (talk) at 00:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

  • date
  • just over 1500 characters seems too short to me.
  • the hook is not in the citation, but it can be inferred from the information there. Not sure if that is sufficient.--Ishtar456 (talk) 02:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Amelia Van Buren

"Miss Amelia Van Buren With Cat"

Created by Howcheng (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I think if you mention "one of Thomas Eakins' most famous paintings", people are going to expect to see the painting. I certainly did, and I was quite confused when I found that I appeared to be looking at a photograph by Thomas Eakins. So I think to avoid confusion it would be better to use the painting. Gatoclass (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
OK, sure. Changed (and BTW is anyone going to come and verify this?). howcheng {chat} 19:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The last sentence in the first section has no citation and that is the hook. While you're waiting for your hook to be verified, feel free to help verify some other nominations here. As you can see, there is a big backlog.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Powership

  • ... that a newly constructed powership, a floating power plant capable of generating 144 MW of electricity, currently supplies Basra in south-eastern Iraq.?

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

  • A few points, firstly the history section - the first paragraph should probably be removed as it is about a power barge, not a powership. The second paragraph needs a reference. Then the hook needs to be directly mentioned in prose in the article, it doesn't currently say that there is one in Basra, or what power it is (although it is stated at Powership#In_use). I've rearranged the hook slightly so it reads better. Smartse (talk) 16:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
  • 1st: Yes, the vessel is a power barge. However, she was a self-propelled ship before and was turned in to a barge after removal of her machinery. I mentioned her for the reason that one should not confuse a power barge from a vessel, which looks like a ship. I guess there must be a place in an article also for the counter-piece. Besides, this point is not subject of the hook.
  • 2nd: OK. There is no explicit reference to that both powerships, however they are wikilinked to articles in the en:WP, where they are well referenced. Do we need in that circumstance referencing? Besides, these are also not the subject of the hook.
  • 3rd: I see that not every one can understand at sight that the mentioned ship has 144 MW power and was stationed in Basra, even though all that information is given in the article, maybe indirectly. I rewrote that passage in conformity with the hook.
  • Thanks a lot indeed for posting a note in my tlak page.CeeGee (talk) 18:26, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
I think the article needs some additional work in terms of grammar etc. before it should appear on the main page. Zoeperkoe (talk) 04:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
  • For the grammar I have to take a closer look (for which I don't have time right now, but a few other things I noted with this article are (some of which, though, are not necessary for DYK but they add up to the overall picture of this article being not (yet) suitable for appearance on the main page):
-Note 1 refers to another wikipedia article; that should be fixed because Misplaced Pages does not cite itself.
-Things like "a renowned international certification agency with unique experience " sound like an advert and certainly do not reflect a neutral POV.
-better wikilinks; i.e. first occurrence of MW instead of last, wikilink US Navy, etc.
1. You need to decide whether it is or isn't a power barge. I'd just leave it out if it is ambiguous if I was you. Done
2. Yes, we need at least one inline reference per paragraph, try looking in the linked articles to find a suitable reference to include in the article. Done
3. Thanks.
4. The advantages section needs attention - what are these advantages compared to? Powerbarges, normal powerstations or something else? The 4th almost definitely needs to go.  DoneSmartse (talk) 19:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
The history section still needs work. After reading the reference for the USS Hoel it says that it was a powerbarge, as it had to be towed there. The Saranac does seem to be a powership, so I think that can stay but the rest should go. Smartse (talk) 11:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)  DoneCeeGee (talk) 11:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Patrol 35, Tsagaan Khass

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 05:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

  • According to its article, Patrol 35 no longer exists (which would make the hook incorrect). In addition, there doesn't appear to be a specific statement in the Tsagaan Khass article, supported by a reference, that says it is openly neo-Nazi. Maybe a different hook - perhaps something about how the second organization justifies its use of the swastika symbol? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 09:45, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Hmm I just noticed neo-Nazi is indeed what the one source for that article calls Tsagaan Khass - although with it having considerable potential for controversy, I wonder if a single source is enough? (That position also raises questions about its notability) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 09:51, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Maybe change "are" in the hook to "are or were" in order to dispel the present/past tense issues? Also, there are other sources available for Tsagaan Khass, but many of them are in non-English languages (particuarly Mongolian, understandably.) Perhaps a Mongolian-speaking Wikipedian would be able to help out. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Greater Bangladesh

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 05:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Done, Shiva (Visnu) 17:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I'd say that the article has some serious POV issues. The article is based on a rather fringy theory that the Bangladeshi govt is pursuing a massive settling scheme for the purpose of territorial expansion. However, it only identifies two very marginal organizations by name. I'll post a comment on the article talk page later, explaining more in detail. --Soman (talk) 04:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I disagree - (a) it is not "fringe" especially since it is featured in a report to the Indian President by the Governor of Assam, as well as other reliable sources that are used as references. (b) the article does not say that the Bangladeshi government itself is responsible for any such scheme. (c) it is part of the wider issue of Illegal immigration in India. (b) the article itself does not have biased language. (d) "Marginal organisations" - a political concept as such does not need open endorsement from large political/terrorist groups to exist legitimately. Shiva (Visnu) 01:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


The article is at best original research, but it looks more like a fringe POV theory. The references are also used in a misleading manner: for example, "Advocates of a "Greater Bangladesh" seek the expansion of Bangladeshi hegemony in Northeastern India" is supported by ref 1,2,3, but at least ref 2 does not quote any such "advocates", rather the article only mentions allegations by Indian sources about the existence of the concept. I can't verify ref #1 and #3 (since they are conveniently offline sources), but in any country, there are right wing politicians creating similar allegations about a neighbor conspiring about "Greater X". The entire article is based on a topic based on allegations by a few politicians. Besides synthesizing bits and pieces of information from the history of India and Bangladesh, and mentioning a few fringe theories put forward by politicians, there is no strong evidence that such a concept exists and is advocated by any major players or Bangladesh government. This is not fit to be an article, let alone a DYK. It's simply OR and Synthesis of unrelated facts, along with POV.
Off topic: isn't Gyan publishing house the same one which plagiarized a whole bunch of articles from Misplaced Pages and created uncredited compilations such as the "Encyclopedia of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh"? (See this). I'm not saying the book in ref #1 is dubious, just that the book is not written by any well known political theorist .... it's not a reliable source, and is published by a questionable publishing company. --Ragib (talk) 00:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Courtesy of Google Books, I checked out ref #1,, where "Greater Bangladesh" is mentioned only 4 times in total. (plus once in the glossary). Among the 4 mentions of this, 1 quoted the phrase from a petition filed in a court of India.(pg 368). Pg 335 is about allegations from BJP, a right wing political party.Page 180 claims the concept to be an obscure militant group's "aim". Finally, page 520 mentions one Sadiq Khan and Abdul Momin to be the advocates of the idea ... none of them are well known political analysts or columnist at all. Ref #3 quotes Sadiq khan's 1991 article on Holiday, where the Khan talked about population and manpower exports and migrations, rather than creating a "Greater Bangladesh". Once again, Khan is not notable at all in Bangladesh as a "intellectual", and misquoting a 1991 article by Khan in his own weekly magazine does not indicate the concept of "Greater Bangladesh" is anything other than the imagination or political rhetoric of right wing Indian politicians. --Ragib (talk) 00:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I find Ragib's points to be quite subjective and lacking evidence themselves. "Gyan Publishing" - that discussion doesn't seem to offer any real consensus that these publishers are inherently unreliable. I must point out that the company has existed since 1984-85 and has done a lot more publishing than the books in question - , long before the inception of Misplaced Pages. Until there is a community-wide consensus and firm decision that this publisher is not a reliable source, I am not prepared to accept the argument that any book from it is a problem. "none of them are well known political analysts or columnist at all." - that statement is quite subjective, and I think a host of reliable and political analyists reputable in academic circles would fall under that category. "Khan is not notable at all in Bangladesh" - a sweeping opinion, based on what? Again - Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam - identifying it as an "obscure militant group", when there is evidence of its involvement in terrorist attacks already, is not appropriate itself.
The Governor of Assam reporting to the Indian President is not a right-wing Indian political source, and all statements in the article are presented with sufficient language that points them out as allegations, not established facts. The Bangladeshi government is denying everything (stated in article), even the existence of an illegal immigration problem, so I don't know if there is a whole para needed to describe that POV. To be clear, apparently the Arakan province of Burma is also involved in the design, so it doesn't just concern India.
I have found 2 new references that again use "Greater Bangladesh" - "Bengal Borderland: Beyond nation and state in Bangladesh" by Willem van Schendel, pages 233-34, "Religion and social conflict in South Asia" by Bardwell Smith, pages 73-74. Shiva (Visnu)
Here is what I propose - if an independent reviewer here finds a problem based on WP:DYK policy, with my arguments here, then I will withdraw the DYK nomination w/o hesitation. I don't have a problem with that - I don't covet DYK credit and I don't want any article appearing on DYK if there is a genuine problem involved. I specifically request the reviewer to tell us what exactly makes it problematic. If the reason is serious, we can just take the entire matter to the article talkpage and/or WP:INB and sort it out. This page is not the one for carrying out a lengthy discussion, especially since its current size keeps freezing up my browser and takes an eternity to come up (and I have FiOS for God's sake !!!) :)
There is one thing though - I do take exception at the use of "conveniently off-line sources". That connotes some intention to deceive, and I would take offense to that if Ragib is actually under that impression. How would you sir, feel if I said you are objecting because you are Bangladeshi yourself and taking personal offense at the possibility of elements in your country being involved in this design? It is true that I may not have evaluated the data through deeply enough, but several of those sources are available from Google books online - I guess I just didn't think it necessary to add the url in {{cite book}} if all publication details were provided anyway. Shiva (Visnu) 05:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I see no reason why I should not comment on the POV nature of this Original-research piece. Anyway, I hereby withdraw the word "conveniently" if that offends you, thanks to Google books, I found the book (and also showed that your claim of the book being a reference is false).

I will be happy to tell you what is wrong with the article, it is a hoax. There is no such concept promoted by mainstream media, mainstream intellectuals, or any government. This article is actually a good candidate for AFD due to original research, falsification of references, and synthesis.

Now, let's go back to the 2 "new" references you claim to unearth. The latter one, by Smith, mentions the phrase "Greater Bangladesh" only once, in a completely different context. Unsurprisingly, the first reference by van Schendel has a total of 3 mentions of the phrase in the book (and one in the glossary). Page 233 merely states that there were many in India who assumed the idea of greater Bangladesh. Page 352 is actually a rephrasing of the same text (i.e., "some saw ..."). Finally, page 196 is referring to the letter by Assam Governor.

It is no surprise that there are an utter lack of references in the article, because the article is a hoax. I have pointed out that there are lack of reliable references other than personal opinions (sans any objective proof) or quotes. As for the comment on Khan and Mumin, I'd be happy if you can prove they are important and influential political commentators / pundits from Bangladesh :D. Good luck with that!!

Based on my above comments and previous comments, I strongly oppose the DYK of this article (based on policies including (WP:V, WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:UNDUE). If the issue was at least given coverage by some well known sources, there would be a possibility to consider the article. But that seems unlikely.

Finally, it is NOT my duty to provide proofs against the fallacies and problems of the article ... whoever adds questionable and NPOV, non-RS information needs to back it up with reliable sources. That is, it is you who needs to show this is not a hoax or a fringe theory, rather a well-known theory promoted by notable mainstream people/groups. So far, you have randomly picked books where the topic is barely mentioned (once or twice or 3 times only, in the passing, in 500+ page books!!) --Ragib (talk) 06:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Please calm down - there is no need to get heated or sarcastic about this. I could offer another rebuttal, but I am not going to aggravate tensions. I respect what you have to say, but I disagree - it is by no means certain that what you are claiming is correct - that I cannot accept until an independent opinion is given. As per what I have said and WP:3O, I will be satisfied to have the opinion of at least one independent editor here - if he/she concurs that there is a real problem according to WP:DYK rules, then I shall withdraw the article nomination. I have no further comment to make for now.
I request the DYK reviewers here to please offer your opinion on this thread. Shiva (Visnu) 08:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I just checked the booklinks here. And, I believe Willem van Schendel has quite an appropriate view on this:

"While some borderlands were doing a roaring business in assisting international migrants, the Indian narrative of infiltration began to point to an ominous future of anti-Bangladeshi pogroms. Extreme proponents of this line advocated not only expulsion of Bangladeshis from India, but also territorial annexation of Bangladeshi territory. ‘Capture one or two districts in Bangladesh, acquire space and send those infiltrators there’, advocated an influential politician in 2003. At the same time, there were many in India who assumed that the state of Bangladesh itself was pursuing an evil territorial design; seeking Lebensraum for its teeming population and ultimately usurping Indian territory in order to establish a Greater Bangladesh. However, it was not the Bangladesh government so much as individual migrants who were demonized and held responsible. The narrative of infiltration emphasized the supposedly free choice of individual actors, and hence the culpability of individual immigrants who were in a national space where they were not authorized to be." (Willem van Schendel, The Bengal borderland: beyond state and nation in South Asia)

Looks like the whole idea of a "Greater Bangladesh" conspiracy is a figment of imagination of a few influential Indian politicians. If pushing that doesn't represent POV-pushing, I don't know what does. Sorry for the conclusion, but it looks like an obvious conclusion from here.
BTW, the other book by Bardwell L. Smith discusses a Greater Bangladesh and a de-facto Bangladesh briefly in context of language, and compares the ideas of keeping it separate from India or merging it into India. In that line probably some one can come and claim that Greater Bangladesh is an Indian scheme to usurp Bangladeshi national space. That would be as sad a synthesis as the existing POV in the article Greater Bangladesh. Aditya 09:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Another editor has just nominated this article for deletion. - Dravecky (talk) 09:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
As per the opinion of an independent reviewer, I am removing the nomination of this article for DYK. I'll try again if the AfD redeems my points. Shiva (Visnu) 12:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Phule's Company

Created by Sadads (talk). Self nom at 00:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 21

Philadelphia Polish American Festival

Created by PolAmFest (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 04:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Michaela Gigon, Christine Schaffner, Ksenia Chernykh, Adrian Jackson (orienteering), Ruslan Gritsan

Mountain bike oriennteer

5x expanded by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Scott Bacigalupo

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

David Morrow (sports)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Trevor Tierney

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

B. J. Prager

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Jon Hess (lacrosse), Chris Massey (lacrosse), Josh Sims & Jesse Hubbard

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 20

Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center

Entrance to Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center in Moscow

5x expanded by Offliner (talk). Nominated by Offliner (talk) at 16:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I've added a couple of missing words to the original hook, but
  • Ref 1 is a dead link for me and ref 2 (even of I choose July 15) doesn't seem to have some of the things in it that it's supposed to support, e.g. "company currently has an over 30% market share of the global space launch market". Mikenorton (talk) 16:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Mass suicide in Demmin

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 09:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Strong oppose-numerous issues have not been resolved in the article, which now has the attention of several editors pointing out pointing out problems with it. The very hook might be not correct as scholarly sources are at odds with the claim, in addition to the fact that first deaths happened due to Nazi killings There is also evidence that this event is highly politicised by far-right circles in Germany,and editors have mentioned that this needs to be covered and the article needs to avoid giving fuel to those claims. Also issues have been pointed out with sources used to write this article. There is also an RFC opened and ongoing. In other words this article is highly contested and highly controversial in current form. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 22:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
discussion ongoing on article talk page
  • Very strong oppose-this seems to be a WP:Synthesis combined with essey, thus going against two Misplaced Pages guidelines, in addition it is based on very dubious sources(among which is a pastor and a politician who was 9 years at the time). I think the article needs to be deleted as per and mentioned here . --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:57, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't see any essay-like content here. Moreover, the occupations and ages of the sources are not themselves reasons to say that they're unreliable: this man's published writings were reliable sources on the American Civil War, and any current Egyptologists write about events that happened long before they were 9 years old. Could you explain your reasoning more fully? Nyttend (talk) 15:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Even a brief search through the sources indicated that the article does not reflect them-I already found that the estimates range from 700 and hardly "more than 1000". Another thing-this article seems to be skewed into portayal of the events as results of Red Army-sources about suicide in Nazi Germany though point heavily to Nazi indoctrination that resulted into cult-like behaviour and hysteria during the fall of Nazi regime(this is directly in fragments where Dennim is mentioned). Thirdly-the article doesn't mention the killings of family members by Nazis which the articles about this mention as well. In other words-so far it represents very biased portayal while omitting important information, with cherry picked details to give it more tabloid-sensantionalistic tone. If it is to stay-all sources will have to be reviewed in detail to pick out the real portayal(like I said, even brief review led to discover that over 1000 number is not correct).--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 16:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
If you're correct — and I can't know, since I don't speak German — you still haven't answered the question, because the things you're discussing are what you believe to be factual errors. You've also not explained why two of these sources are unreliable because of the occupation and age of their authors. Nyttend (talk) 00:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
For now the issues with reliability of the pastor will have to wait-there are several others that need to be resolved.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:23, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Some sources used in the article refer to Norbert Buske, who is a pastor, and is also chairman of the Historical Commission for Pomerania, chairmen of the Society for Pomeranian History, Early History and Arts, chairman of the Study Group for Pomeranian Church History, and publisher of several history books (de.wiki entry). Any concerns about him should be raised at RS/N, not on DYK talk. Skäpperöd (talk) 06:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I have adressed the issues Molobo (talk · contribs) aka MyMoloboaccount (talk · contribs) raised on article talk. I can only repeat here that if he feels that article needs to be deleted, as he said above and on article talk, he should take it to AfD right away and try to find a consensus there. Aussuming good faith, this is genuine interest in the article and not related to either the SPI I initiated last spring that got him blocked until recently, or the WP:EEML arbcom where I provided evidence against him. I noticed that Molobo and Radeksz went after a former EEML target on DYK talk recently , and I don't want that to happen here again. Skäpperöd (talk) 17:04, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Skapperod you might want to start debating articles in question, rather than throw EEML accussations here and there as substitute of response to valid criticism.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 17:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Note that the article now avoids mentioning that Nazi inflicted deaths happened well before any alledged Soviet atrocitiesDer Amokschütze ist offenbar Studienrat Gerhard Moldenhauer. Der NSDAP-Mitläufer hatte einer Nachbarin erklärt: „Ich habe eben meine Frau und meine Kinder erschossen, nun will ich noch ein paar Russen umlegen.“--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 18:04, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Note also that the above information and sources make the proposed hook completely wrong and pushing a POV claim regarding the reason for suicides.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 18:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Discussion is here. I fail to see how a person running amok due to the arrival of the Red Army contradicts the hook. Skäpperöd (talk) 06:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Suicide in Nazi Germany by Christian Goeschel in describing those events makes clear explanation that they were connected to Nazi indoctrination, propaganda and attachment to Nazi regime that reached cult-level status--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 23:45, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
This connection has so far not been substantiated despite the requests of two users to provide a reapective quote in this discussion. The outcome of this discussion should however not be of any relevance with respect to this DYK nomination. Skäpperöd (talk) 06:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
This is of total relevance to DYK in question since your hook tries to push one version of reasons for the suicides. Anyway you might try some patience-not even a day has passed in that discussion, and Wiki is not an everyday work for us. As to the sources-the scholarly ones describe the suicides of which Demmin was part and explain reasons for-Nazi propaganda and suicidal death of Adolf Hitler being one of them.Both the current hook and article completely conceal that aspect. Have no fear-I shall soon expand Wiki knowledge on that using scholarly publications.The--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 08:58, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, you have found time to open multiple discussions on article talk, twice tag a POV template to the article, and to turn this DYK candidate entry into a fork of the talk page. It would be a lot easier for all of us if you just name/quote your source, as requested multiple times on article talk. Skäpperöd (talk) 10:46, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
That was before your request which prompted me to start writing on this topic-which btw I am doing at the moment. Wrtiting a balanced, neutral article requires time and good resources. It will be finished within a day or two.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I found some sources indicating that modern Neonazis and far right in Germany use those events to spread their propaganda, and some association «Vereinigung Freies Pommern» is mentioned as well. I believe this needs to be adressed in the article--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 08:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Discussion about whether the attempts of this otherwise unknown group to organize a demonstration on 8 May should be mentioned in the article is here. This is not a DYK talk issue. Skäpperöd (talk) 06:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
NPD is fairly well known group Skapperod, represented in elections. Anyway we wouldn't want the DYK to appear to support quite by coincidence of course such propaganda.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 08:58, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
The source you cited above and on article talk does not mention NPD. Neither does NPD appear anywhere in the article. Else I refer to the resp. tak page section, this does not belong on DYK talk. Skäpperöd (talk) 10:50, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Neither does the one-sided POV claim that the suicides were the consequence of Red Army arrival and not mentioning the fact of Hitler's suicide and Nazi propaganda influencing the mass suicide wave in Nazi Germany, as Even if Nazi propaganda was not responsible for all suicides, then, it had created a common language and set of identifications for the masses of Germans who were living this war experience".The current hook is too simplified and would lead to seriously unbalanced article. As to sources about NPD patricipation and far right propaganda-it is easy to find. It seems they are very active on spreading their propaganda on the internet also(yes I realise youtube is not source,its for discussion only). Anyway I am glad that you want to protect this article from such propaganda, a welcome change from your previous use of publication from Nazi Germany as source of historic information, I hope it stays that way. Right now I will write the needed information and then we can continue on ways to improve the article. Have a good day.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
The "welcome change" story is way out of line. Nowhere did I ever come anywhere close to spreading Nazi propaganda. This thread is however not the venue to pursue this, I give you a chance to redact now and will otherwise leave this thread to other editors for now. Skäpperöd (talk) 13:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Molobo (talk · contribs) aka MyMoloboaccount's opposition has been discussed at length on talk. Whether or not a consensus will be reached for inclusion/exclusion of a right-wing rally into the article (discussion) should not affect the article's DYK nomination. Skäpperöd (talk) 05:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
My opposition? They are at least three other editors concerned about the article's POV problems and the issues within it. The fact that this topic is being exploited by Neonazis and far right in Germany and needs thus to avoid fueling their propaganda is just tip of the iceberg the article. Also as an engaged party, you shouldn't close down disputes you are engaged in as "resolved" since you aren't neutral in the dispute. Plus don't move around my comments. Thank you.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
The article is well written with good sources, however I would like to see mention in the article that the radical right in Germany is attempting to turn the tragic events of 1945 into modern day neo-Nazi propaganda. We need to point out the radical right is attempting to use the tragedy in Demmin to trivialize the crimes of the Nazi regime. This attempt to exploit the Demmin tragedy is rejected by the vast majority of Germans who are appalled by the crimes of Hitler Germany. Please don't move around my comments. Thank you--Woogie10w (talk) 20:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

The article has received a B rating . The discussion about whether or not the far-right rally should be included in the article is here and here and should not impact the article's DYK eligibility. Skäpperöd (talk) 16:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Action of 12 December 1782

A painting of a battle at sea, several masted warships firing cannon at one another.

Created/expanded by Bruichladdich1 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 11:46, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The first paragraph of the 'Background' section has no citations, also the the hook fact is somewhat scattered about the article - it is summarised in the lede but without a citation, perhaps one could be added there. Mikenorton (talk) 14:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


History of Song

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks NortyNort but since the article is about a book it is somewhat self referencing - external references to this work are few and far between hence its absence on Misplaced Pages until now and the lack of inline citations. Best, Philg8812:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I got that idea from the article in general but the hook must be cited and the article should have citations as well. The book itself can't reference its own "Publication process", "Evaluation" and "Later influence" as the sections you have. That is the result of secondary sources, not the primary source (the book) so the book isn't self referencing. I was surprised no one made an article on this as well. --NortyNort (Holla) 12:23, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Hook fact uncited in article, remains uncited 8 days after author notified. Indeed, no edits had been made to the article since that notification until I corrected a few typos (including one in the hook fact itself) just now. - Dravecky (talk) 06:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I've added a ref to the hook fact. I will add another couple if I can find them - few and far between unfortunately. Philg8800:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
What makes chinaknowledge.de, a single-author self-published "online encyclopedia", a reliable source for Misplaced Pages? - Dravecky (talk) 06:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I will bow to your superior judgement. Can you read Chinese by the way? If you can you will find that the hook is undisputed according to Chinese sources (including our very own Chinese Misplaced Pages) Philg88 (talk) 09:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
It's not a question of the hook but the references and citations in the article. If it is going to be linked on the main page, it has to be in good standing, defined by the DYK rules.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For September 5, 14th Sunday after Trinity

Gerlinde Sämann

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

For September 13, 15:00 GMT (14:00 UTC), see comment text

Polytechnic of Namibia

A red-roofed yellow building in bright sunlight, built in German colonial style. Over the entrance is a red cross and the inscription "Elisabeth Haus"

5x expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: Okay, here I will request quite an amount of good faith into me: The creator, almost all contributors, and I are affiliated to this institution, either as employees or as students. However, nobody else seems to want to write about it, so here I submit despite a crystal-clear COI. --Pgallert (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
  • And a Question: On September 13, 15:00 GMT I will present a lecture on Misplaced Pages at the Auditorium Maximum of Polytechnic of Namibia. It would of course be a nice publicity stunt to have the institution mentioned on the main page at that particular day and time. Does Misplaced Pages support something like this? I would believe it is a win-win situation. --Pgallert (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
  • 5x expansion, date, length and hook verified. I fixed some grammar in the hook and bolded the article name. I see nothing wrong with you being an employee of the Polytechnic, the article is certainly not biased in any way. TodorBozhinov 09:04, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
(tongue in cheek) - do tell your students that each of them has to write a DYK on their hometown and the Namibian institution has to be an FA in four languages in return for this ginormous favour. Oh and good luck with the lecture. Victuallers (talk) 14:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
:) Thanks, will do. Actually the will write something, see here, and I promised a 100% assignment mark should their contribution make it to DYK. Namibia an FA, that would be something... I'm willing to accept any help. --Pgallert (talk) 15:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I agree it is win-win and we should help (any others?). I have updated all school articles (not too many) in Winhoek where your poly is Victuallers (talk) 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

For 31 October, Hallowe'en


Ipswich Witchcraft Trial

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • "May have been the last witch trial", rather. We don't know what will happen in the future -- people do make ridiculous assertions still, and occasionally judges humor them (witness the case of the woman who got a restraining order against David Letterman so that he would stop psychically harassing her). DS (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Euphorbia tithymaloides

The brightly colored red bracts and flowers of Euphorbia tithymaloides, a succulent spurge

  • ... that a person can create more of the Devil's Backbone by cutting it off above a joint and putting it in sandy soil?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 03:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Veratrum nigrum

The purple-black flowers of the Veratrum nigrum plant growing from a spike raceme or branch

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 18:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The point is to create a play on words with the title of the plant. It is not a true Hellbore; it is true it can kill you. When it comes to plants, most people probably don't know what the term "false" means (I didn't). So verifying that "false means false" is not just a play on words, it is informative as well (confirming a person's assumptions). - Tim1965 (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Nah, I'm with Smartse, this hook is just not working for me. And I don't really see the Halloween connection either, unless anything that could kill you is now eligible for Halloween. I don't think we're going to be short. I suggest this goes back to "regular" DYK, and you come up with another hook? Sorry. PS Tim - "Hellebore" is an English word, not a Latin word like Helleborus, so "hellebore" should not be italicised, in DYK or in the article. Le Deluge (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Ferocactus latispinus

very spiny cactus

Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

It sounds scarier to me. We could maybe make something out of this but saying that it can be killed by Fusarium oxysporum doesn't sound very scary. Another option is to make a stub for Didymium wildpretii using this and then we could have a hook of ALT2 ... that Didymium wildpretii eats the decaying remains of Devil's tongue barrel (pictured)? Smartse (talk) 12:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Not the easiest material to work with. For hook purposes (eg ALT2) it is probably best called a "barrel of devil's tongues"? A bit of creative Googling came up with PAR 279 of this ref which would allow an example of a site in which it grows in the wild and hence (stretching a bit) :
That same ref has a bunch of saints which could be translated into English, and MZ 1239 leaves the tilde off La Cañada... Alternatively you could use the hardiness data to suggest that :
The Fusarium is tricky, you'd end up playing with "mouldy bottoms" or "butt rot". One little thing, the image relies on recurvus being a synonym for latispinus. I don't doubt that it is, but it probably ought to be reffed - and in any case, it's a bit too obvious an image to accompany a hook that we're struggling to get tricksy with... Le Deluge (talk) 14:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
The book ref lists recurvus as a synonym. The other hooks are more interesting than mine, and yeah I reckon losing the picture will probably help. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Auricularia auricula-judae

A brown, ear-shaped fugus growing from a tree-branch.

5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
    Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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