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== Proposed new first paragraph. == == Proposed new first paragraph. ==


I have been editing this article to bring it up to date, and I eventually got it tidied up somewhat. the new stuff included the cancellation of the LRLAP, but I feel that the consequences are fairly fundamental to the Zumwalt story and are still not clear. I ended up with this paragraph: I have been editing this article to bring it up to date, and I eventually got it tidied up somewhat. the new stuff included the cancellation of the LRLAP, but I feel that the consequences are fairly fundamental to the Zumwalt story and are still not clear. I ended up with this paragraph which is in the article as of 2 March:


:The '''''Zumwalt''-class destroyer'''<!--('''DDG-1000''')--> is a ] of ] ]s designed as multi-mission ]s with a focus on land attack. The class is multi-role and was designed for ], ] and ]. They were intended to take the place of ]s in filling the former congressional mandate for naval fire support<ref>Section 1011 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996 (Public Law 104-106; 110 Stat. 421)</ref> but the lack of any ammunition for their advanced guns make them incapable of it. The class emerged from the ] program as "DD(X)". :The '''''Zumwalt''-class destroyer'''<!--('''DDG-1000''')--> is a ] of ] ]s designed as multi-mission ]s with a focus on land attack. The class is multi-role and was designed for ], ] and ]. They were intended to take the place of ]s in filling the former congressional mandate for naval fire support<ref>Section 1011 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996 (Public Law 104-106; 110 Stat. 421)</ref> but the lack of any ammunition for their advanced guns make them incapable of it. The class emerged from the ] program as "DD(X)".
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Now, I want to make the situation quite clear, but this is a big step, so I put it here first. Here is the proposed paragraph: Now, I want to make the situation quite clear, but this is a big step, so I put it here first. Here is the proposed paragraph:


:The '''''Zumwalt''-class destroyer''' is a ] of ] ]s designed as multi-mission ]s with a focus on land attack. Although the class is multi-role and was designed for secondary roles of ] and ], it was designed primarily for ]. The class was intended to take the place of ]s in filling a congressional mandate for naval fire support.<ref>Section 1011 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996 (Public Law 104-106; 110 Stat. 421)</ref> The ship is designed around its two ]s, their turrets and magazines, and their unique ] ammunition.<ref name=LaGrone>{{cite web :The '''''Zumwalt''-class destroyer''' is a ] of ] ]s designed as multi-mission ]s with a focus on land attack. Although the class is multi-role and was designed for secondary roles of ] and ], it was designed primarily for ]. The class was intended to take the place of ]s in filling a congressional mandate for naval fire support.<ref>Section 1011 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996 (Public Law 104-106; 110 Stat. 421)</ref> The ship is designed around its two ]s, their turrets and magazines, and their unique ] ammunition.<ref name=LaGrone>{{cite web|url=https://news.usni.org/2018/01/11/no-new-round-planned-zumwalt-destroyer-gun-system-navy-monitoring-industry|title=No New Round Planned For Zumwalt Destroyer Gun System; Navy Monitoring Industry|last= LaGrone|first= Sam|date=January 11, 2018|website= USNI News|publisher= U.S. Naval Institute|access-date= 2018-03-02}}</ref> LRLAP procurement has been cancelled, rendering the guns unusable.<ref name=LaGrone/> The Navy is re-purposing the ships for surface warfare.<ref name=Eckstein>{{cite web|url= https://news.usni.org/2017/12/04/navy-refocus-ddg-1000-surface-strike|title= New Requirements for DDG-1000 Focus on Surface Strike|last= Eckstein|first= Megan|date= December 4, 2017|website= USNI News|publisher= U.S. Naval Institute|access-date= 2018-03-02}}</ref> The class emerged from the ] program as "DD(X)".
|url=https://news.usni.org/2018/01/11/no-new-round-planned-zumwalt-destroyer-gun-system-navy-monitoring-industry
|title=No New Round Planned For Zumwalt Destroyer Gun System; Navy Monitoring Industry
|last= LaGrone
|first= Sam
|date=January 11, 2018
|website= USNI News
|publisher= U.S. Naval Institute
|access-date= 2018-03-02
}}</ref> LRLAP procurement has been cancelled, rendering the guns unusable.<ref name=LaGrone/> The Navy is re-purposing the ships for surface warfare.<ref name=Eckstein>{{cite web
|url= https://news.usni.org/2017/12/04/navy-refocus-ddg-1000-surface-strike
|title= New Requirements for DDG-1000 Focus on Surface Strike
|last= Eckstein
|first= Megan
|date= December 4, 2017
|website= USNI News
|publisher= U.S. Naval Institute
|access-date= 2018-03-02
}}</ref> The class emerged from the ] program as "DD(X)".
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Please let me know what you think. -] (]) 06:11, 3 March 2018 (UTC) Please let me know what you think. -] (]) 06:11, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
*OK, I put the proposed paragraph into the article, But still please discuss this here if you wish if there are any issues. -] (]) 15:59, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

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Proposed new first paragraph.

I have been editing this article to bring it up to date, and I eventually got it tidied up somewhat. the new stuff included the cancellation of the LRLAP, but I feel that the consequences are fairly fundamental to the Zumwalt story and are still not clear. I ended up with this paragraph which is in the article as of 2 March:

The Zumwalt-class destroyer is a class of United States Navy guided missile destroyers designed as multi-mission stealth ships with a focus on land attack. The class is multi-role and was designed for surface warfare, anti-aircraft warfare and naval gunfire support. They were intended to take the place of battleships in filling the former congressional mandate for naval fire support but the lack of any ammunition for their advanced guns make them incapable of it. The class emerged from the DD-21 program as "DD(X)".

Now, I want to make the situation quite clear, but this is a big step, so I put it here first. Here is the proposed paragraph:

The Zumwalt-class destroyer is a class of United States Navy guided missile destroyers designed as multi-mission stealth ships with a focus on land attack. Although the class is multi-role and was designed for secondary roles of surface warfare and anti-aircraft warfare, it was designed primarily for naval gunfire support. The class was intended to take the place of battleships in filling a congressional mandate for naval fire support. The ship is designed around its two Advanced Gun Systems, their turrets and magazines, and their unique LRLAP ammunition. LRLAP procurement has been cancelled, rendering the guns unusable. The Navy is re-purposing the ships for surface warfare. The class emerged from the DD-21 program as "DD(X)".

References

  1. Section 1011 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996 (Public Law 104-106; 110 Stat. 421)
  2. Section 1011 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996 (Public Law 104-106; 110 Stat. 421)
  3. ^ LaGrone, Sam (January 11, 2018). "No New Round Planned For Zumwalt Destroyer Gun System; Navy Monitoring Industry". USNI News. U.S. Naval Institute. Retrieved 2018-03-02.
  4. Eckstein, Megan (December 4, 2017). "New Requirements for DDG-1000 Focus on Surface Strike". USNI News. U.S. Naval Institute. Retrieved 2018-03-02.

Please let me know what you think. -Arch dude (talk) 06:11, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

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