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We have gone through this issue again and again. Your assertations are not "well sourced". Instead, you make an effort to take reputable sources to buttress questionable (at best) claims. You've made a considerable effort to have me banned not only from the article but from Misplaced Pages entirely. I have tried to engage you in the Talk page but you have a clear and direct agenda that has nothing to do with Misplaced Pages or the truth. This matter should be arbitrated. It seems, however, you want to create a red-herring by attacking me and focusing on me personally rather than your actions. I have no interest in "harassing you" or even having anything to do with you. I do, however, have issues with your agenda and utter disregard for the truth. If anything, you have made every effort to make my life miserable on this website. And for the last time, I have no connection to Wilkes, a vast conspiracy, the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa etc. etc. ] 03:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC) | We have gone through this issue again and again. Your assertations are not "well sourced". Instead, you make an effort to take reputable sources to buttress questionable (at best) claims. You've made a considerable effort to have me banned not only from the article but from Misplaced Pages entirely. I have tried to engage you in the Talk page but you have a clear and direct agenda that has nothing to do with Misplaced Pages or the truth. This matter should be arbitrated. It seems, however, you want to create a red-herring by attacking me and focusing on me personally rather than your actions. I have no interest in "harassing you" or even having anything to do with you. I do, however, have issues with your agenda and utter disregard for the truth. If anything, you have made every effort to make my life miserable on this website. And for the last time, I have no connection to Wilkes, a vast conspiracy, the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa etc. etc. ] 03:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
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Hi there, Just saw the pic you posted in the motorcycle leathers article of your motorbike jacket. I've been looking for a jacket of this style for ages. Where did you get it. If you get a chance, please drop me a line at RyanAB@GMail.com. Thanks! HelpI and others feel bamboozled on the Israel page, our sumbissions are quickly reverted, vandalism tags are posted on our talk pages and now when I added a {{fact}} tag to certain sections they were removed WITHOUT any citations or reasons and I was labeled a vandal. I'm pretty new to wikipedia and do not know much power to use the rules to make things right. I just do notr think asking for citations is vandalism. I hope someone can help inject a NPOV stance in this article as right now it suffers from a serious one sided perspective and is controled by POV driven admins who "own" the article. Thanks in advance, --Oiboy77 22:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC) See: ] ] Odd Irish peerages...
I stumbled across this earlier today: Irish Earls of Dublin. It looks a bit odd to me; the deletion discussion here has suggested it feels like "smoke and mirrors to support a pretender to a title", which may well be the case. Unfortunately, beyond the fact that there was one, I know nothing about the old Irish peerage - but it occured to me that you probably do. Any chance you could have a look at the article and see if it's got a basis in reality? Shimgray | talk | 18:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Category:Articles lacking sourcesPlease see Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_July_21#Category:Articles_lacking_sources. —Viriditas | Talk 01:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC) Guy MontagHi, I've had to unblock Guy Montag due to being involved in the discussion on the page, could you review the ban and reapply it if you think it appropriate? - FrancisTyers · 12:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Irish Recognition.I can see what you're saying but I think it's the difference between 'courtesy' and law. In the same way many french peers are known as marquis etc when they usually only hold a barony or peers are often called by their titles abroad without having to prove their titles. Even various American documents use peers titles but that use doesn't make such titles legal there. The Irish Constitution bans creation of or acceptance (without permission) of titles but doesn't mention the status of any existing British titles at all. Nor does it say anything about the preservation of any believed ancient Irish titles. So you can say that they are not abolished but equally that they are not legally stated to exist either. You are perfectly correct to say that several members of the Seanad were peers (Earl of Granard and the Countess of Desart come to mind) and called as such but that's not legal recognition but courtesy again. The Altamont case is not different from the above courtesy - other countries have certainly mentioned titles of foreigners in their legislation but thats not confirming it validity. The Act gets his title somewhat wrong anyway "Honourable Jeremy Ulick Browne, commonly called Lord Altamont" The Hon is just as much courtesy as the Lord Altamont. It should be the same as 'Edward William Fitzalan Howard Esquire commonly called Earl of Arundel and Surrey' If you can cite an Irish court awarding a peerage to anyone (which was what the afd was about and the context of my reply) I'd certainly be interested. The Chief herald is interesting but valid only to a point. My understanding is that the Chief Herald from the first was quite clear that this was a courtesy and that he had no legal right or power behind him to legally make such rulings - unlike his position wrt granting of arms. Such 'recognitions' of Irish Chief's have anyway stopped after the embarrassment over Mac Carthy Mór hoax. I believe that the Attorney General has also stated as I have above that he doesn't believe such recognitions could be valid in Irish law. Alci12 13:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC) CoAOK if you say so but German, French, Italian, Korean, Japanese, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Hebrew and many more Wikipedias all use the version I have put in here as well. Irish WP uses some third version which is IMO the worst of all three. --Avala 20:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC) Image tagging for Image:4courtsbomb.jpgThanks for uploading Image:4courtsbomb.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Misplaced Pages's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. 09:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Benedikte, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-BerleburgHi Jtdirl; Can you move Benedikte, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg back to Princess Benedikte of Denmark? There was no request move made for the page and the most common title for the Princess is the Danish one. A similar issue is occurring at Princess Birgitta of Sweden. Charles 18:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC) One more move request, you must be the move master... Would it be possible for you to move Talk:Benedikte, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg back to Talk:Princess Benedikte of Denmark. For some reason, it didn't make the move with the main page. Thanks again for all of your help. Prsgoddess187 01:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC) AidanOK. I can see that he rather does fancy that expresson "Lake of Fire". You must understand that I too did not like some of Kiand's tactics. When contributing to the Ian Paisley article, I did feel that Kiand was rather biased on the topic, and did try to "paint myself and others into a corner". Wallie 21:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Excuse me?Excuse me? What the hell do you mean that you have given me my last warning? Where was the first one? I have moved TWO pages, as per wiki protocols. I have always respected you as a user, seeing your edits on many pages I have edited, but this is ridiculous. Are you familiar with Assume Good Faith? I did something to conform with the Misplaced Pages naming protocols and I reveieve an angry rant about vandalism and blocking on my talk page? I have spent most of my time on Misplaced Pages trying to better the place, and being accused such and called a vandal is deeply hurtful. I have never been warned before, let alone a "final warning", and I did fix all the redirects initially. For a block to be threatened....I thought better of you and Misplaced Pages as a whole... Yanksta x 22:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC) I will admit I have moved a number of pages, but the ONLY other objection I can think of was about a redirect mistake I made a long time ago. No-one has ever objected and I have usually commented on why I have done something If I have, and dealt with the situation if there were any problems. I have so far seen very few objections, and I therefore apologize for not going through the entire procedure when it seemed that my move was entirely correct not objected to. Nonetheless, if this was such an issue, I would have preferred to have been told about any major chaos it was causing before, so that I could stop and help rectify it, rather than being suddenly attacked. Yanksta x 22:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC) Okay, I geddit now. Anyway, I'm sorry for any chaos and I hope I can help fix it. Btw, is it permissible to add modifiers duch as "of Denmark" or :of France" where they are not included but are correct? Áras imageSorry about that. I was only going through Category:Fair use image replacement request. If you want to get mad at anyone, talk to User:Dbenbenn who tagged the image. howcheng {chat} 21:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Freddie MercuryThe Freddie Mercury Article has been suffering from severe edit war for a few days now. I have tried to reason with user Craptacular however he keeps pushing his own POV and agenda. I was wondering if you could come and review the case and perhaps try to convince him to join the discussion instead of editing and taking out referenced facts. This is the first time I am actually going to an admin regarding this matter and I am not sure how to deal with this situation. Thank you. IONAI suggest we bag it for awhile on the isles talk page, there's plenty of reading material there for other editors comment on. I'll leave the article alone for a week or so and see what happens. By the way that "cop out" crack was for making me search fo "cop-on" (i'm still trying to figure out "plump stick".)EricR 02:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC) Assessment TemplatesI note your move against Assesment Templates at Misplaced Pages:Templates_for_deletion#Template:Project_Catholicism_101 and I agree with it. A possible solution is being discussed at Wikipedia_talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment#Let_me_ask_one_question. I understand what the issue is and I am glad others are fighting to get this sorted out. --WikiCats 13:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Note on fantasy royaltyAs of this note, User:82.54.226.55 has made edits to three articles (whihc I have reverted) pushing the "claim" of "Maria Pia of Saxe-Coburg-Braganza" and "Rosario of Braganza". Charles 18:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Reinsert in Duarte Pio page the exclusion of the Miguel descendants from the succession and the esxclusion of Duarte also because he is born Swiss. So you consider Maria Pia no rights to succession because illegittimate but you remember also Duarte Pio has no rights to succession for these TWO reasons, and not only one as Maria Pia. Please became impartial also if you want hide the hystorical truth of the Royal House of Portugal.
Additional sockpuppetsI am quite sure that all of the following are all sockpuppets of banned user M.deSousa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
With edits to the following pages:
Charles 17:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
your recent revertYou just reverted Rainier III, Prince of Monaco. Are you aware that SuperJumbo is going around changing date styles? I would have thought that as someone who was around for the great date wars you would not encourage that sort of behavior, even when it results in a style you'd prefer. - Nunh-huh 18:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC) Images from years gone byCheck out your contributions to the image space from around 2003 or so. I'd love it if you could tag some sources on some of them. Like, Image:It-liffy-bg.jpg, for example. It just says "image of the Four Courts - no copyright" and someone tagged it as {{PD}}. If you remember anything about those old images where you didn't specify where they were from, and could go back and provide that information, that'd be great. Thanks. Kevin_b_er 21:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Grand Duchess Maria TeresaMorning Jtdirl, Do you think you could find out what happened to this article? I tried to figure it out, and it doesn't make any sense to me. Somehow Maria Teresa, Grand Duchess of Luxembourg and all usual redirects, Maria Teresa Mestre and Grand Duchess Maria Teresa of Luxembourg, have been deleted, and the above article created. And the new article is in much worse shape than the "lost" version. Thanks again for all your help, and have a great day. Prsgoddess187 11:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the help. I will see what information I can find, rework it to avoid such copyright violations, and add it back in. I would rather have no article than the crap that is there now. Thanks again, Prsgoddess187 23:26, 31 July 2006 (UTC)Re: Please be more careful with copyviosFirst of all, I would like to express my regret that this incident took place; doubtlessly, I will take more care in the future. However, at the time the article was deleted it was like this; there was very little material that was not from here (there were no categories and there was no template at the time). That being said, it looks like there was a small amount (I was able to find 2 sentences) of non-copyvio material, and this is unfortunate. I must have saw that the vast majority of the article was a copyright violation and incorrectly assumed that the rest of it was also. I am confused by your remark "you don't delete pages with copyvios," as Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems/Advice for admins seemed to say otherwise. Perhaps the page should be amended? I will not do any more work on WP:CP until we can reach an understanding on the appropriate way to deal with copyvios. Thank you so much for telling me about this, and in such a polite way too! I really really appreciate it. -- Where 01:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC) Corrected factual errors about Brian Farrell's wife.Hi there I fixed some errors about Brian Farrell's wife on his page. She's my Mum, so I know what I put in is correct! Bernard Image talk:Nigel havers203 203x152.jpgI'm not sure what this was really all about, but I notice that we edit-conflicted when you changed what you wanted to say. I remain unclear on where you stand on this -- are we in agreement that the image is not okay? Jkelly 02:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC) Cities in IrelandJt, Their is an ongoing discussion and disageement regarding Cities in Ireland. Their is even a vote been taken on it and it seems on editor is insistant that consensus should overide verifibility. Any comments are welcome at talk:Cities in Ireland. Djegan 22:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC) Duisburg Dude identical with Elvis fan Ted Wilkes?There is something going on that looks very suspicious to me. A new user named Duisburg Dude has now appeared on the scene and most of his contributions to the Elvis Presley article are mass deletions. See , , , , , , , , , . It seems as if this is another user account only created to harass me. Significantly, this new user calls Elvis an American icon (see ) and emphasizes that Elvis's funeral was a national media event. See . One of his contributions to the article is that, according to the "Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace Foundation" the photo of President Nixon meeting Elvis Presley in the Oval Office is the most requested image in the history of the U.S. Government. See . All this suggests that Elvis is the personal icon of this user and that he is pushing an agenda. Significantly, most parts of the relationships section and all references to Elvis's male friendships which were well sourced have now been removed. Nonsensical fan stuff such as the section on "Elvis lives" is still in the article. What the hell is going on there? Could it be that this is another sockpuppet of multiple hardbanned User:Ted Wilkes, who frequently harassed me in the past and has been blocked by you for one year? Interestingly, new user Duisburg Dude is also contributing to the Suzanne Finstad, the Elvis and Me, the Child Bride: The Untold Story of Priscilla Beaulieu Presley and the Priscilla Presley articles, as Ted Wilkes did before he was blocked. See , , , . I think it is not acceptable what is going on there. Perhaps you can help? Onefortyone 02:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for blocking User:Duisburg Dude, the new sockpuppet of Ted Wilkes. Just an additional question: Is there a way to reinstate all the paragraphs of the Elvis Presley article this user has deleted on 5 August? See or . The removed passages are not yet restored, as some other users have contributed to the page after these mass deletions. Thank you for your help. Onefortyone 22:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Image copyright problem with Image:Edwardsig.pngThanks for uploading Image:Edwardsig.png. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Misplaced Pages because of copyright law (see Misplaced Pages's Copyright policy). The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Misplaced Pages are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. ed g2s • talk 21:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC) Talk:Hilda_ToledanoI have reverted your vandalism on this page. The Misplaced Pages:Vandalism official policy specifically includes "Talk page vandalism: Deleting the comments of other users from article Talk pages, aside from removal of internal spam, or deleting entire sections of talk pages, is generally considered vandalism." I believe that you are an administrator; if that is the case, then you should know this. Noel S McFerran 14:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
On a related note, would you consider changing Rosario Poidimani into a (protected) redirect to Hilda Toledano? That seems slightly more useful to me than the present situation, and not inappropriate (since he's only notable as her supposed successor). Choess 02:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC) Saxe-Coburg and Gotha?? Why didn't you just say you were the first major contributor? That would have solved it unambiguously! Are you just looking for a fight? Isn't there enough of that in the world? In any event, I humbly submit my apology. If you were the first contributor, you most likely would have used some version of British English (what you incorrectly refer to as "International English"). And that's the spelling the article should have now, and in the future. For the record, Germans (I'm German, so I know!) do not always use British English. Most Germans in academia use American English, or some hybrid of Oxford and American English --] 19:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC) Eric LottI see that you deleted an article on Eric Lott based on who created it. The article looks to me to have been entirely correct; Lott certainly deserves an article. Is there any rule against my restoring the material? Is there some particular way I should proceed? - Jmabel | Talk 05:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Welcome!Welcome!Hi, and welcome to the Biography WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Misplaced Pages's coverage of biographies. A few features that you might find helpful:
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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! plange 00:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC) Evidence that IPs 66.61.69.65 and 24.165.212.202 and NightCrawler alias DW alias Ted Wilkes alias Duisburg Dude are identical with user LochdaleIP 24.165.212.202 is identical with User:NightCrawler alias multiple hardbanned User:DW alias User:Ted Wilkes and somehow related to the "copyrighted trademark owned by EPE" (i.e. Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc.), as this edit proves: IP 66.61.69.65 deleted comments by other users from talk pages (see , ) and seems to be a gay basher. See . IP 24.165.212.202 seems to be related both to IP 66.61.69.65 and to hardbanned user DW, as IP 24.165.212.202 deleted these passages from the Talk:Elvis Presley page, which, among other things, mentioned that User:NightCrawler is identical with multiple hardbanned User:DW: , , , , , , , , , , etc. IP 66.61.69.65 repeatedly removed exactly the same passages from the same talk page: , , , , , , , , , , , etc. This certainly shows that IPs 24.165.212.202 and 66.61.69.65 must be identical. IP 66.61.69.65 also removed other critical contributions from the Elvis Presley talk page (see , ) and this IP confirms to know a lot about Bill E. Burk and what he has written on Elvis, as IP 66.61.69.65 says, "Perhaps you need to contact Elvis historian and former Memphis entertainment reporter Bill E Burk. He has several highly accliamed Elvis books in print. and he was a personal friend as well..." See To sum up: IP 66.61.69.65 admits to be in close contact with many of Elvis's friends, former employees and family, and claims that Elvis, while married, slept with hundreds of other women, that his step-mother Dee is mentally unstable, etc. (see ). IP 24.165.212.202 similarly admits to be "someone who knew Elvis all of his life" and says, "There have been over 2,000 books written about Elvis, and only 2 (two) of them mention him being gay": . IP 66.61.69.65 also says that "there have been over 2000 books published on Elvis and they most factual and honest of them were penned by the MM." See . Significantly, User:Lochdale is also constantly talking of "over 2,000 books written on Elvis" and his chief witness is Bill E. Burk, an author IP 66.61.69.65 seems to prefer. It should again be noted that the identity of User:Lochdale, who has also contributed under the IPs 83.71.77.27 and 63.85.72.242, seems to have only been created in order to remove my contributions (see , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , etc. etc.) or to attack and debase me and my edits on the Talk:Elvis Presley page (see , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ). If you look at the contribution history of this user (see ), he is frequently "dropping in" and either involved in deleting my contributions or constantly repeating the same accusations over and over again, namely, claiming that my sources are not reliable, that my quotations are out of context, that over 2000 books on Elvis do not mention what I have written (how should he know this, as he has not yet quoted from a single book on Elvis), etc. etc., though I have cited dozens of independent books and articles, among them publications by reputable Elvis biographers and university studies, in order to support my edits. This is very similar to the strategies my old opponent, multiple hardbanned User:Ted Wilkes used in the past. Significantly, Lochdale is only removing content from the Elvis article which is not in line with his all too positive view of the singer. Here is what this user primarily wishes to read: fan stuff like this. On the other hand, non-encyclopedic fan stuff such as the section Elvis lives remains untouched. It is certainly no coincidence that User:NightCrawler alias DW borrowed his user name from an obscure Marvel comic book superhero (see ) and that User:Lochdale is also interested in the same kind of comics, as, apart from deleting material from the Elvis Presley article, he is also contributing to Thor (Marvel Comics) (and Talk:Thor (Marvel Comics)) which deals with another fictional superhero published by Marvel Comics. To my mind, there is only one conclusion to be drawn: IPs 66.61.69.65 and 24.165.212.202 and Lochdale are identical. Further, there is much evidence that IPs 66.61.69.65 and 24.165.212.202 and Lochdale are also identical with multiple hardbanned user NightCrawler alias DW alias Ted Wilkes (and perhaps with devoted Elvis fan Bill E. Burk). It should also be noted that shortly after the last contributions of IPs 66.61.69.65 and 24.165.212.202 to the Elvis talk page on 25 April 2005, User:Ted Wilkes and his pal User:Wyss appeared on the scene in June and July 2005 (see , ) being constantly involved in edit wars with me, which is certainly no coincidence. Significantly, IP 66.61.69.65 has removed the following critical comment from the talk page: , and IP 66.61.69.65 added the following commentary to the same page: . The latter edit strongly suggests that this IP is identical with User:Duisburg Dude, who was recently hardbanned for being a sockpuppet of User:Ted Wilkes. To my mind, there is also the suspicion that Ted Wilkes has created lots of new sockpuppets in order to circumvent his one-year block and to push his agendas. Onefortyone 01:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Northern Ireland - constituent countryYou might be interested that the old constituent country issue keeps reappearing every so often. As usual no sources, just theories and original research. Djegan 19:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Lochdale has requested an unblockHi Jtdirl, Just wanted you to know that Lochdale (talk • contribs • count) sent an unblock review to the Unblock mailing list. Please take a look at his comments and respond there, my talk page, or the unblock mailing list. Thanks, Deathphoenix ʕ 19:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC) Block on User LochdaleG'day Jtdirl, User:Lochdale has been banned on allegations that he is a sockpuppet. He has sent an e-mail to the Unblocking list which states. "I've just noticed that I have been banned from Misplaced Pages entirely due to allegations that I am a 'sockpuppet'. http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Lochdale I am at a loss to explain how this has happened. I have no connection in any way, shape or form to Ted Wilkes or any of the other 'sockpuppets' mentioned by the ban." He has stated that you were the relevant admin that imposed the ban. Could you please advise of the process that you performed before imposing this ban so we can respond appropriately. Regards Capitalistroadster 20:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC) Some aditions. One of the most striking arguments for Lochdale being identical with NightCrawler alias DW alias Ted Wilkes is his constant claim that there are "over 2,000 books written on Elvis" that do not support the quotes from the several independent sources Onefortyone has provided. See , . The only editors who used exactly the same phrase in order to support their biased opinions were the IPs 24.165.212.202 and 66.61.69.65. See and . I have shown elsewhere that these are the IPs of one and the same person. It may be added that they were used in order to circumvent violating the Three-revert rule in edit wars with me. This edit undoubtedly proves that IP 24.165.212.202 is identical with User:NightCrawler. Thus, there is only one conclusion to be drawn, namely, that Lochdale is identical with NightCrawler alias DW alias Ted Wilkes, etc. I think it's very easy for Ted Wilkes to get an Irish email address, isn't it? Wilkes may also have an Irish friend who is sending some emails for him. However, it could also be that there is a small circle of Elvis fans who know each other and, alternately, are deliberately harassing me by repeatedly deleting my contributions and accusing me of pushing an agenda, simply because my edits are not in line with their all too positive view of their megastar, although I am very carefully, and frequently, citing my sources, among them reputed Elvis biographies and critical university studies. If this Elvis fan group really does exist, then it's a case of Meatpuppetry. The Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry page says that this
See . So it doesn't matter if Ted Wilkes himself or one of his friends is editing as Lochdale and harassing me. Be that as it may, Ted Wilkes is certainly the driving force in removing my contributions, as I am his archfiend. This is no wonder, because we were edit warring since 2005 and I was responsible for getting Ted Wilkes banned from Misplaced Pages. This would explain why his sockpuppets are constantly using me as a whipping boy. One of these sockpuppets of Ted Wilkes was undoubtedly user Duisburg Dude. Perhaps he was aware of the risk that this new user identity may be disclosed. Therefore, Duisburg Dude edited in a very short time as many Elvis-related articles as possible which had been disrupted by Wilkes in the past, thereby removing many of my contributions. Unfortunately, several paragraphs Duisburg Dude has removed from the Elvis Presley article are still not restored. There were also some other editors harassing me for some time. These may also be sockpuppets of Ted Wilkes. Among them was User:Count Chocula, who contributed primarily to the Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson articles and talk pages, and, as a relatively new user, repeatedly posted unjustified accusations (which were very similar to those by Ted Wilkes) against me on the administrator's noticeboard and on administrators' talk pages, but without success, as administrator Stifle says, "I don't think he's disrupting the article, inserting poorly-sourced information, or being aggressive." See , , , . Count Chocula also removed paragraphs I have written from Elvis-related articles. See . This looks rather suspicious to me. And I am quite sure there are several other sockpuppets of Wilkes. Onefortyone 12:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC) A checkuser request has been completed and per Mackensen, Lochdale is unrelated to the other accounts. Please review the CU results and the block on Lochdale. Thank you! Georgewilliamherbert 20:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Dorney CourtThank you Jtdirl for restoring the article, I was just about to go to deletion review when your message appeared. If Redvers had listed it for AfD, that would have been fair enough, but to just speedy delete it seemed bizarre. --RMHED 23:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Defence of Anglo-Celtic Isles article requiredHi Jtdirl, we need to defend the 'Anglo-Celtic Isles' article again...some users of the term 'British Isles' are trying to get a 'redirect' set up. I'm 100% against this, naturally. Best regards, Pconlon 15:11, 12 August 2006
Feature article reviewI came across your name in the revision history of Victoria of the United Kingdom. You may be interested in its review as a feature article at Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Victoria of the United Kingdom. Specifically, there is a request for inline citations so if you have access to some relevant books, adding cites would help. Also, since Trivia sections are discouraged, especially in featured articles, the points listed will have to be either integrated into the text or just removed, depending on whether they are actually relevant to the specific topic. You may also be interested in helping Economy of the Republic of Ireland which is also being reviewed at Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Economy of the Republic of Ireland. Maintain 23:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC) Good morning.For the past year or more, I've seen your edits and comments on articles I read, particularly relating to Irish politics, but on other sorts of things too. Just wanted to say, I think you're intelligent, you contribute well to wikipedia, and you seem an overall good man. That's it. - Pauric 23:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC) New templatesVery interesting templates you got going there, especially IrishR. I've added Irish republican legitimatism to the strategy section. I wrote this article as the term abstentionism doesn't really cover what it was (and for some still is) all about. I was unsure of how to name it, but historian Brian Hanley for example has referred to "republican legitimatists" (i.e. Ó Brádaigh). I'd like to add in more about the activities of Dev and the rump Second Dáil, but don't have the relevant sources to hand at the moment. --Damac 10:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC) Resurection of HungaryDon't understand this one in IrishM? --Red King 20:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Irish BoxtopsHi. Was playing around with boxtops trying to brighten up my page. Was trying to use templates as it is a lot easier for me. Any worth or issues in trying to develop an Irish football support template like the ones ? Thanks.Lochdale 19:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC) Capital AYes it does. I've already thought that, but I fear I tend to adapt things or styles. Very sinewy. Thanks and Greetings to Eire Phoe Radu, Prince of Hohenzollern-VeringenHi Jtdirl; Stefanp (talk · contribs) is re-inserting "info" about the legal name of the subject, totally ignoring the more numerous sources that give his name as Radu Duda, Prince of Hohenzollern-Veringen. I have a feeling that he will try to incite an edit war. Could you take a look at it and possibly step in? I would like to assume that his edits are in good faith, but they tend to be rather scathing. Charles 00:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Ted WilkesThis guy has been banned too. He did a lot of good work in the horse racing articles. There must be some way of handling people who have been OK, and get annoyed about something. I know he did some strange things to some of my articles, but I wasn't too fussed. I thought at the time, he might know something I didn't. It is a pity, though, that people get so upset over so little. Wallie 21:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC) OK. Thanks for the explanation. I cannot understand what makes people act like he did. Some of the contributors can be irritating at times. I'm sure some get irritated with me at times too. However, that is no reason to try to attack Misplaced Pages itself because someone has upset you. Wallie 22:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Irish Republicanism templateThank you for your message on my talk page. However, I disagree with the idea that that much information is necessary in every article relating in any way to Irish Republicanism. I have now put a post on Misplaced Pages:Irish Wikipedians' notice board asking for other peoples' views (before I got your message, I hasten to add). My own view is that the thing is too big and unwieldy and takes away from the articles rather than add to them. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Scolaire 23:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC) PS re:songs about the Rising (we need some articles about them), as a direct result of your template I have created an article on Down by the Glenside (The Bold Fenian Men). Scolaire 23:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC) RE: OgraOk, sure that makes sense (for if one youth wing was added, all would have to be). Cheers! hoopydink 00:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC) Anglo-Celtic IslesHi Jtdirl, You've just reverted the above to a version that includes exaggeration, misinformation and a lack of verified information, and your edit is stated as reverting to a 'NPOV' version. The previous version (my own) which you reverted actually:
Please see the talk page of the article and the AFD talk page. I'm reverting back to my own version as all I've done is remove unsourced/unverified information and made factual corrections. There was nothing POV about my edits. This is quite relevant as people may possibly comment/vote on the AfD based on a cursory glance at the article, see that it's apparently sourced, and decide accordingly. Bastun 16:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC) It's so ridiculous with BI. These guys have talked on the talk page, and then suddenly for no apparent reason go ballistic from time to time. Makes me wonder about their raison d'etre! User Bastun puzzles me. He calls the Irish language by the name Gaelic, and refers to the Ireland (the state) by the term, "the Irish republic".MelForbes 21:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject British RoyaltyDBD 10:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)Date format changes in British monarchsI discovered that the articles on British monarchs have a variety of date styles, and I've been diligently working my way through them. However, I seem to attracted the attention of someone who prefers a mish-mash, and I'd like your comments on this diff, please. --Jumbo 21:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Image:RoyGrec.pngGreetings! Image:RoyGrec.png is tagged with {{coatofarms}}. Under this template, the image there must be used under terms of Misplaced Pages:Fair use criteria. Specifically in this case, item #9 proscribes the use of the image in templates, such as {{House of Oldenburg (Glucksburg-Greece)}}. A coat of arms is actually a textual description, not the image on which the description is based. So for example, a coat of arms might be hundreds of years old (and often are). However, the graphical presentation of that description might have been created yesterday. Without a positive affirmation of source and copyright status of the image, the image must be treated as a fair use image. Even that is arguably improper, since another representation can be readily made without infringing on the copyrights of the person who created the image. The person who created the image has rights to that particular incarnation, but no rights to the coat of arms. Thus, other depictions of the coat of arms are not derivative works of the artist's interpretation of the image, but based on (though in this case not derivative of) the coat of arms. I've re-removed the image from the template noted above. Please do not re-add the image unless it is re-tagged with an appropriate free license tag and a source for the image to verify its copyright status. If you have any questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks, --Durin 15:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help!I am indebted to you for the experience and knowledge you have brought to the dating debate. The summaries of the history of what must have been an interesting time are helpful. But there's a lot of work still to be done; I was appalled to see so many biographical articles on British and Irish people using AD or a higgledy-piggledy mess. I took a look at some U.S. Presidents for contrast and found (as I expected) the overwhelming format was wikilinked AD. --Jumbo 04:10, 20 August 2006 (UTC) My Challenge to YouYou might have missed my challenge. Repeating it here. --Samuel Webster 11:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Assume good faithDude, I don't care whether you think Northern Ireland is a country, a part, or an entity. Nor do I care how many Protestants or Catholics are in Northern Ireland. What I am interested in, as you should be, is that facts should match their references. Kindly reserve rollback for vandals, and kindly also assume good faith. Thanks. -- zzuuzz 21:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC) Template:VblockPlease read WP:VAND before rolling my edits back. This page states that this behaviour is not defined as vandalism. Cheers, JYolkowski // talk 01:02, 21 August 2006 (UTC) Bad faith action on Anglo-Celtic Isles article!Hi Jtdirl, unbelievably, some *** has gone and put a redirect on the Anglo-Celtic Isles article, completely ignoring the continuing discussion! Do you know how to undo this? Best regards, Pconlon 15:04, 21 August 2006
Request for you to stop uncivil behavior
'British Isles'(again) redirect vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:British_Isles_%28terminology%29#Requested_moveRequested move on the terminology page needs your vote, JD. El Gringo 19:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC) Jtdirl, is that guy on something, it struck me before? -MelForbes 23:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC) seems to me to imply normative negative implications Templates, and so forthThe picture thing, I have to say, is incredibly annoying. The intense dislike of fair use exhibited by some on wikipedia (apparently on the basis that we want to make it easy for other people to legally make money off iwkipedia?) is quite annoying, especially in cases like coats of arms, which, so far as I can tell, are not copyrighted anyway. These issues irritate me so much that I tend to avoid them altogether so as not to get annoyed. The general deletion issue seems more debatable to me - dynastic templates do strike me as a bit awkward. I don't know that I'd go to the point of deleting them, but it is worth arguing about somewhere else, perhaps. john k 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC) "really stupid nomination"And it's users like you who create a friendly and inviting atmosphere on Misplaced Pages? I have decided not to waste my time on small and petty men like you who respond to rational argument with incoherent personal attacks and childish tantrums. As I'm sure you're aware, a nomination does not equal a deletion, it simply raises a question, so why don't we just let the poll run its course? Eixo 16:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC) Papal TiaraPapal Tiara is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 22:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC) Irish AmericanI'm not asking you to get involved, but could you have a look at Irish American. To me the article is one of the greatest loads of povish bullshit on WP pushed into it. If you get a chance, maybe you could have a peep. I would like an intelligent opinion on it, without going into detail. The S-I or U-S parts are very laboured and overdone in the opening, I think.MelForbes 08:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages Signature AwardYou have a great Signature! STHayden 03:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
constituent country - againIts seams that Mal/Setanta will do anything at this stage. See Talk:Constituent_country#Requested_move_2. Djegan 22:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi JtdirlWould you be able to help us a little in ascertaining notability? Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Caoilfhionn Nic Pháidín. Many thanks. -- Samir धर्म 11:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC) Gaelic names for Scottish kings!I'm surprised you haven't got involved in the controversy at Talk:Cináed I of Scotland! Deb 19:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC) Jtdirl: If you'd like to help with the moves, I'll help with fixing the redirects. :) --Elonka 01:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC) Since you've gone down this road, you might wanna close the polls. The votes can't be considered valid if the vote is different, and besides any admin monitoring the RM page in a few days may find himself confused when he arrives to close the vote. I didn't, btw, actually open the poll and actually I assumed John Kenney when he first objected would just move them all back without bringing up a vote. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 03:56, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Cardinal <first name> <surname>._<surname>.-2006-08-30T05:09:00.000Z">Encyclopedia Britannica, one that Jimbo Wales has touted on numerous occasions, uses "Wolsey, Thomas, Cardinal" meaning "Cardinal Thomas Wolsey". Do we ignore Britannica, too?--Patchouli 05:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)_<surname>."> _<surname>.">
The citations are: MLA style: "Wolsey, Thomas, Cardinal."Encyclopædia Britannica. 2006. Encyclopædia Britannica 2006 Ultimate Reference Suite DVD 30 Aug. 2006 . APA style: Wolsey, Thomas, Cardinal.Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved August 30, 2006, from Encyclopædia Britannica 2006 Ultimate Reference Suite DVD . Britannica style: "Wolsey, Thomas, Cardinal."Encyclopædia Britannica from Encyclopædia Britannica 2006 Ultimate Reference Suite DVD .. I will leave the article alone notwithstanding my desire for a naming reformation.--Patchouli 18:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)_<surname>."> _<surname>."> Pius XIIHi, please note the newly initiated discussion about the Hershberger - image (showing a cardinal together with a nazi steping on a jew). Need your support in a request for opinion discussion on the talk page of Pius XII. I would like to have the image removed. Thanks, --UAltmann 16:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Prime Minister MoveYour move to Prime minister (sic) is wrong under WP rules. WP does not allow pages to be moved to grammatically incorrect locations. The office is spelt two ways: either with both words uppercased or both lowercased. As technical reasons prevent the page being located with both names lowercased it was decided long ago, on this and similar cases, that there was no option but to use the title in uppercase. That policy trumps any vote. Indeed if the RM proposal had been spotted in time, admins would have aborted it as the vote is invalid under WP rules. The reason for this policy is simple. Having an article on something called a Prime minister would have Misplaced Pages an international laughing stock. It is about as loopy and ignorant as writing United states or George bush. Please be more careful and avoid making WP a laughing stock. If the media ever saw your move they would have a field-day. FearÉIREANN\ 01:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
In view of the controversy I open another RM. The previous one had rather low participation, so I advertised this one on a couple of notice boards. I have to say that the consensus, so far, is to leave it as is, but it's early days. If you can think of other NB's or Projects where there might be an interest, please stick a note up. I have to say it's not something I feel too strongly about, but I thought it was worth revisiting. Cheers ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
A word in your earCould you take a look at this, please? Misplaced Pages CommonsHey there, thanks for uploading those images of the St. Patrick's Cathedral. I just wanted to suggest that you upload them to the Wikimedia Commons instead so that they can be used in all of the wiki projects. Its exactly like uploading an image to wikipedia. Just stick them in a category like "Category:British honours system" for now and we can create a page for the Order of St Patrick later. BTW: I hate Guiness too. Im a Canadian and give me a Labatts or a Molson Ex anyday. I've been up to Scotland but never made it as far as Irland unfortunately.Dowew 02:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC) Comment RequestYour comments at Talk:Prime minister#Jtdirl's Comments on User talk Pages are requested. Thanks in advance. -- tariqabjotu 00:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC) Prime MinisterI'm sorry to say I can't support you on this one. Prime minister is a common noun and doesn't take caps. Prime minister is thus the correct title for an article about the office of prime minister. The obvious solution is for all countries to call their governmental heads Teasocks. Adam 11:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Jtdirl, hi. I wonder if you could answer my question regarding ice cream. Do you think that article is incorrectly titled, since the 'I' is capitalized and not the 'c' in a non-beginning-of-sentence context? -GTBacchus 18:29, 4 September 2006 (UTC) This weekend I asked three tenured political scientists (two Canadians and one British) in my university's department of politics, and not one had a problem with Prime minister as the title of an article. If you can give me the name of an academic who is happy to have his/her name published as somebody who would would fail a student on this basis, I'll post their contact details too, and the political scientists can then carry on this happy discussion amongst themselves. Rattus 21:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC) Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Northern IrelandMisplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Northern Ireland -- you might be interested. Djegan 18:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Irish RepublicWikiman has done a rather extensive edit to the Recognition section of "Irish Republic". I don't really know enough to know if it's kosher, but I found some of his other recent edits a bit dubious, so I'd like someone with the knowledge to have a look at it. I think that whole section is getting out of hand anyway, and needs a bit of editing - maybe hive off the Truce/Treaty negotiations to its own section.
BI TerminologyHi Jtdirl, I’ve been exceptionally busy lately (selling my house and moving half way around the world!) and so am only now returning to the ‘fray’! There are some pieces in the BI Terminology section that are hugely dodgy, to which you may already have been referring. Two bits that jump out are: ‘The term British Isles is in widespread use, and is defined as "Great Britain and Ireland and adjacent islands".’ ‘Ptolemy includes Ireland, which he calls Hibernia, as being part of the island group he calls Britannia. He titles Book II, Chapter 1 of his Geography as Hibernia, Island of Britannia.’ Do you fancy having ‘a go’ at these?! One other thought, what would be your view on streamlining the content of that separate 'BI (Terminology)' article into the main BI article 'Terminology' section?! Could be fun and stop this stupid duplication. Pconlon 13:51, 6 September 2006 (PT)
Devin 79Hi, I'm finally doing what I should have done a long time ago and getting an RFC to get Devin79 aka 68.35.182.234 banned for his continual revert wars and pov pushing. We have both had to work hard try and limit the damage done by this guy, so I would welcome your support. Jdorney 08:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC) Right, the RFC is up and running here Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/User:Devin79. Please endorse! Jdorney 11:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC) Ireland ProjectHi, I joined the Basketball project and I was wondering where you could tell me where to find the Ireland Project, i'd like to join. Just H 14:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC) Biography Newsletter September 2006The September 2006 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 00:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Male consortsHi Jtdirl; Currently, John Kenney is moving Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and George of Denmark to titles including "prince". The same conventions that apply to females also apply to males, but John says that he doesn't think it should be so and is changing the pages instead of following through on discussion. It is at the talk page for Albert. Thanks. Charles 00:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Help disambiguatingHello, you commented on Talk:Athletics regarding the movement of that page, and so I was hoping you could help with the large amount of disambiguation that is now needed because of the move. All the wikilinks to Athletics must now be disambiguating to one of the more specific links. Please see Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation pages with links. The list of articles linking to Athletics can be found at Special:Whatlinkshere/Athletics. Regards. -- Jeff3000 00:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Image revertFile:Ratzinger Szczepanow 2003 10.JPG I didnt want to revert an image seconds after yours. The image you uploaded, while showing a full profile, is not of sufficient quality (blurred). What do you think about this one? -- AJ24 01:31, 14 September 2006 (UTC) SussexmanYou banned User:Sussexman citing he had sent another contributor a solicitor's letter. My understanding is that is untrue, and that all he did was make robust attempts to point out to certain users that they were breaking UK law. He has not himself made any personal legal threats. Is that not the case? He has made some fine contributions to Misplaced Pages articles has he not? If you are not going to ever lift this ban I think you should be posting a very clear explanation why and how it equates with natural justice. 213.122.112.24 11:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC) ThanksHello... just some belated thanks for your comment about the maps I made. It's nice to know they've been useful to people. -- Vardion 06:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC) Nice page! And how did you...How did you protect your userpage? I didn't know you could do that to other pages other than the main page, let alone userpages. Just curious. Oh, and nice limericks. Cheers! The RSJ - The RSJ at the RS Wiki 19:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC) Heh heh... great limerick, and thanks for the reply before you took a WikiBreak (as I like to call it), and cheers! •The RSJ• 21:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC) User ImageHallo there, glad you changed your Ireland-Capitals.PNG image at user name to Ireland-up.png - keep up the good work Culnacreann 15:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC) jtdirl has left the building (temporarily)Hey folks, Thanks for all the msg. Unfortunately I am not able at the moment to continue to participate on Misplaced Pages at the moment due to a tight deadline for other busineess. I will of course be back quite soon. I just don't know how long I will absent from the project though I will pay occasional visits back here. FearÉIREANN\ 22:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC) "Joe Cardinal Sixpack"Care to come back to discussing ]? Lima 18:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC) Violation of probation?Over the last few months User:Wyss has repeatedly contributed to homo- and bisexuality-related topics under her IP 194.146.111.10, although this user is banned from making any edits related to such topics. See . However, she contributed to the Picnic (film) article removing the expression "jilted boyfriend" (see ) and frequently included the "disputed" tag in the sexuality section of the Nick Adams page (see , , , , ). Wyss even included a reference to her own book in the Lesbian science fiction article. See , . I think this is a violation of Wyss's probation. The following edits to the User talk:Wyss page prove that IP 194.146.111.10 is identical with Wyss: , . See also the history of the Talk:Joshua Gardner page, where most contributions are from the pen of IP 194.146.111.10, User:The Witch and User:Wyss. Onefortyone 22:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC) Image tagging for Image:P6orthodox.jpgThanks for uploading Image:P6orthodox.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Misplaced Pages's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. 22:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC) Reporting abuse?Hey. How/where does one go about reporting personal attack? Bastun 09:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC) No source imageImage:Brianlenihan.jpg has no source and will be deleted in 7 days unless yopu specify one. YellowDot 15:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC) User LochdaleUser:Lochdale has again removed well-sourced paragraphs I have written from the Elvis Presley page. This is not acceptable. See , , , , etc. Lochdale's behavior supports my suspicion that this user identity has primarily been created to remove my contributions and to harass me. See also his contribution history from the beginning. Onefortyone 01:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC) We have gone through this issue again and again. Your assertations are not "well sourced". Instead, you make an effort to take reputable sources to buttress questionable (at best) claims. You've made a considerable effort to have me banned not only from the article but from Misplaced Pages entirely. I have tried to engage you in the Talk page but you have a clear and direct agenda that has nothing to do with Misplaced Pages or the truth. This matter should be arbitrated. It seems, however, you want to create a red-herring by attacking me and focusing on me personally rather than your actions. I have no interest in "harassing you" or even having anything to do with you. I do, however, have issues with your agenda and utter disregard for the truth. If anything, you have made every effort to make my life miserable on this website. And for the last time, I have no connection to Wilkes, a vast conspiracy, the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa etc. etc. Lochdale 03:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC) User:SussexmanThe Gregory Lauder-Frost page has now been deleted. Will the block on Sussexman remain? If so, could you explain. It seems most unfair as he has worked on quite a number of good articles, not all of them political. Chelsea Tory 07:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC) |
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