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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Casey McKee

Hey thanks for closing this but I had actually removed User:RoySmith's close because I wanted another relist (which I actually initiated before your close) for more comments. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 21:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Regarding this closure of AfD, it was re-nominated within 1 month of first nomination. No new rationale or no new discussion took place. First AfD had very extensive discussion and many more people were commented on it which was closed by RoySmith as "no consensus". Can you restore the article? No discussion took place in 2nd AfD, it was rather a bad faith AfD and 2 of "delete" voters had some bad faith against me. I can prove it by giving various differences. For example 2 delete voters were reported by me at SPI as sock puppets in past. I think they really felt bad for that. (I am the creator of that article). --Human3015  21:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't think that "no discussion took place"; there was discussion and your view did not have consensus. But if you can find new sources addressing the topic in some detail, the article can be restored.  Sandstein  12:19, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Spottoon

Hello! I've been trying to create a page on a web platform named Spottoon but it has always been deleted. Thankfully, the last administrator explained in detail why and she said that I could ask you to if you'd be willing to transfer a copy of the article to WP:AfC so that I could continue to work on it to add more credible sources and once I believe it meets all of the guidelines ask you if you can make it go live. Would this be possible? Thank you! 110.12.53.135 (talk) 02:35, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Do you have any worthwhile new sources for Spottoon to convince me that this would be worth the bother? Regards,  Sandstein  12:20, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

So the articles that were used in the original post were the english-language articles. I was told that the sources didn't have to exclusively be in English, so here are links of the articles that were published in Korea.

• Articles about RollingStory on Hankyoreh News:

South Korean webtoons coming to American readers via Huffington Post http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/679111.html

South Korean webtoons taking aim at US market with Huffington Post as partner http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_entertainment/667112.html

웹툰작가조합, 미국에 ‘웹툰 한류’ 퍼뜨린다 http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/culture/culture_general/666872.html

• A couple of articles from HuffPost Korea:

윤태호의 '이끼' 등 한국 웹툰, 미국 독자 만난다 http://www.huffingtonpost.kr/2015/02/17/story_n_6695532.html

웹툰작가들, 허핑턴포스트 통해 글로벌웹툰 서비스 http://www.huffingtonpost.kr/2014/11/30/story_n_6245694.html

Articles about the release of the titles on HuffPost:

⑥"허핑턴포스트에 웹툰 연재는 100억 광고효과" http://www.newsis.com/ar_detail/view.html?ar_id=NISX20150802_0010199779&cID=10601&pID=10600

윤태호 ‘이끼‘ 등 5편, 미국 허핑턴포스트 연재 확정 http://m.koreadaily.com/news/read.asp?page=1&branch=NEWS&source=&category=entertainment&art_id=3566563

Thank youSyc916 (talk) 01:14, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

How are these sources relevant? The English-language ones don't seem to mention "Spottoon".  Sandstein  09:45, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

userfy article

Can you please userfy this article as I have found new information that should have it pass GNG.
https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sadaki_Nakabayashi
http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_fields_0901.htm

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:q1i72pyM-RwJ:https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/101466676/Judo-Sadaki-Nakabayashi-1965+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
https://books.google.com/books?id=adkDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA45&lpg=PA45&dq=judo+japan+nakabayashi&source=bl&ots=jVPy3l_GB5&sig=sjfyZhvlpfEh2UoHLxN3rkn7BlM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAmoVChMIvoO4qtHVyAIVwnk-Ch3QCg4Q#v=onepage&q=judo%20japan%20nakabayashi&f=false
http://www.usja-judo.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/USJA-Story-V2-5-69.pdf

08:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC)CrazyAces489 (talk)

Can you please present these links and sources in a more orderly, standard citation format? I'm not clicking on random URLs.  Sandstein  12:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

ok done. can you userfy it now? CrazyAces489 (talk) 17:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Not convinced. Some random Google search results and PDF files uploaded by somebody somewhere? These URLs still don't look like reliable sources to me.  Sandstein  09:41, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

He was a 2 time college champ in Judo in Japan. This was before there was Olympic Judo and any judo world champion He is an author of a number of Judo books. He held the highest rank in Judo in the United States. This helps him to pass MA:Note. I am only saying to usefy this. Not to immediately put it back into main space. CrazyAces489 (talk) 17:14, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Afghan Jalebi (Ya Baba) (2nd nomination)

On looking at the most viewed song pages for September I noted this one as a redlink, but had just shy of 15,000 views during the month. As RS is not a reason to delete, should the article have been deleted. FWIW, I have no opinion on the result but felt this point should be raised. --Richhoncho (talk) 11:40, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

@Richhoncho: Actually I have raised same issue above. I am the creator of that article. First nomination was closed just one month before 2nd nomination. 1st one was closed as "no consensus" after extensive discussion. It was not good faith to re-nominate it within one month. If you see it do have RS. All major news papers of India and Pakistan were discussing issues related to song. It does passes WP:GNG. I think admin should restore that article. --Human3015  12:14, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Richhoncho, I don't understand what you mean.  Sandstein  12:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sandstein, My point was that if an article is getting 15,000 views then there is a reasonable case that it is notable. As references (or lack thereof) are not a deciding factor at AfD, should the article have been deleted? --Richhoncho (talk) 12:35, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Admin, you above said to give some more sources. Ok. Nominator of AfD himself is giving bunch of sources covering all aspects of song. You can read it in 2nd nomination. He is just misinterpreting references. Song has been huge success and topped all Charts in India. WP:CHARTS does not feature any Indian chart, so does any Indian song don;t deserve article? I will give representative examples of news from India and Pakistan. This Indian Express news says song was huge success and "topped charts". Pakistani Express Tribune says same. --Human3015  12:42, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Why were these sources not cited in the article or put forward in the AfD discussion?  Sandstein  09:43, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

These are relatively recent sources and were not present at the time of article creation. You will not believe but I have been blocked 2 times only for this article. Nominator's only block is also because of this article. During first AfD nominator was doing edit war with me while AfD was going on. We both got blocked. 1st AfD ended up in "no consensus" but nominator took that block personally and nominated it again. I got blocked twice for editing that article. So I decided to not touch that article. You can read my comment on 2nd AfD how sad it is. I have many issues with nominator and first 2 "delete" voters on 2nd AfD. If these 3 gets united then each and every article that I create will get deleted. But anyway, I don't have any bad faith or complain regarding these users. I am good editor generally, even today my DYK FDI in India is featured on Main page. Just to mention one more thing, same nominator came on DYK nomination template of FDI in India just to spit in my soup again.--Human3015  10:45, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

• @Richhoncho: Please note that we avoid this rationale at AfDs. And i dont know how pageview stats really work. I have questioned few editors on that. But i fell that pageviews can be altered on purpose or even the in-wiki activities can raise the count dramatically. For an article AfDed twice and relisted too it might be obvious that various editors have hit the article raising the count. Also, if you were to believe that i and few others were desperate to get this deleted then it might be that we were viewing the article number of times and spiking the stats. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 12:59, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
• Well, article passes WP:GNG.--Human3015  13:12, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
• Admin, you can see News result for Afghan Jalebi and confirm it with what is written in WP:GNG. I think you can restore article in good faith. --Human3015  13:19, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review for List of cases of police brutality in the United States

An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of cases of police brutality in the United States. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. AusLondonder (talk) 10:38, 23 October 2015 (UTC)