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I really don't think that the {{tlx|TOC left}} template should be placed ''after'' a section heading (see ] and ]). This may give rise to accessibility problems; it is known that text between TOC and first heading is an accessibility issue, and it may also be that where the {{tlx|TOC left}} has now been placed, the content from that point down to the "Assessing importance" subheading - i.e. the "Women writers articles by quality and importance" grid - is similarly inaccessible. --] (]) 16:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC) I really don't think that the {{tlx|TOC left}} template should be placed ''after'' a section heading (see ] and ]). This may give rise to accessibility problems; it is known that text between TOC and first heading is an accessibility issue, and it may also be that where the {{tlx|TOC left}} has now been placed, the content from that point down to the "Assessing importance" subheading - i.e. the "Women writers articles by quality and importance" grid - is similarly inaccessible. --] (]) 16:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

== Notice and invitation ==

#There is a ] that may be of interest to this group.
#Have you heard of the ]? It is a test area for women to hear and support each other. The idea came about as a result of a at meta regarding my IdeaLab proposal (yet open) for .
::Now that the klatsch has ] and WMF legal has said that it does ''not'' violate the non discrimination policy, I am looking for women editors who might like to join.

::Although I have started a couple of discussions, they are not urgent. For now, the "Please introduce yourself" discussion is more important! I want to take it slow at first and build a small group before trying to address heavy topics or come up with big goals. For now, the klatsch is there as a sort of refuge. I hope you will consider joining, and invite other women editors, too, if you wish.

--] (]) 16:00, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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Ordering of articles on the Articles created page

Victuallers brings up a good point here... chron order makes more sense than alpha. What do you think about re-sorting the Articles created page in chron order? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:36, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Support per Victuallers. Early on after this project was created, there was limited discussion about new article ordering (by nationality? by genre? etc.) on this project talkpage with no consensus. Alpha seemed easiest, but in retrospect, it's not the common choice... most projects list their new articles in chron order. Re-sorting by month will take some effort but not insurmountable. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:36, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

New categories within the scope of this WikiProject (#3)

New categories within the scope of this WikiProject (#3)
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Just created Category:Basque women writers and Category:Communist women writers; also Category:Women lexicographers which could use AWB instead of going through all the nationalities by hand. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:18, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

OK - I won't have a chance until later today at the earliest, but I'll look at it with AWB and see what I can do. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 17:51, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
All three have been filled out with AWB. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 07:02, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Just recreated Category:British women screenwriters which had been previously deleted. I added some bios to it but if you can flesh out the rest of them from Category:Women screenwriters, that would be great. I wanted to recreate Category:French women screenwriters as many of the bios in Category:Women screenwriters are French... maybe later this week, and maybe Category:Australian women screenwriters and Category:Canadian women screenwriters later this week also. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:17, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Sure. I'll give 'em a look when I can. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 05:57, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
British and French are done. I'll look at the other two when I have a future moment. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 07:05, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Canadian and Australian are done also. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 01:12, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Good job. We could also use Category:German women screenwriters. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:10, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Done and done. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 07:06, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

I created Category:Norwegian women novelists; can you AWB it? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:11, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Done. Also created and done: Category:Norwegian women poets. They need some cleaning up yet, but I'll get to that later. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 18:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I created {{cl|

Sure. I'll get to it in the next day or so sometime. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 04:03, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Done. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 09:08, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
I've created Category:Namibian women writers. Category:Central African Republic writers is ripe for expansion. At the moment I can find no women writers from the country to write about...that would be an interesting choice to follow up on. Especially as fodder for a DYK entry, perhaps? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 10:15, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I'll do some research and see if we can rectify that. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:05, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Another: Category:Swazi women writers. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 06:52, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
And a Christmas present: Category:Gabonese women writers. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 22:56, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Category:Equatoguinean women writers is now up and running as well. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 06:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Over the weekend, I'll start on Category:Australian women short story writers, Category:Canadian women short story writers, Category:French women short story writers, and Category:German women short story writers in the next few days; if it makes sense to create additional ones, I'll do that, too, and add here. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:59, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I'll run behind you with AWB, then. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 06:40, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
First run of AWB done. I'll run through and try to pick some other stuff up later. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 00:15, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
I've created Category:Nigerien women writers. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 06:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
I created Category:Spanish women short story writers and I filled it with a few but AWB might find others. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:54, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Didn't find many. Added a few. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 09:01, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
A new creation: Category:Ethiopian women writers. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 09:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Four more: Category:Vanuatuan women writers (a bit surprising), Category:Fijian women writers, Category:Nauruan women writers (also a bit surprising), and Category:Papua New Guinean women writers. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 20:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

And Category:Cape Verdean women writers. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 03:16, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
It's been a little while - but I created Category:Jordanian women writers and Category:Kuwaiti women writers today. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 21:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that, Ser. I created Category:Galician women writers. This weekend, I'll pull together all the new cats for another bot run. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:06, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Bot run #3 hasn't been requested yet, so this conversation should be moved up into New categories within the scope of this WikiProject (#3). --Rosiestep (talk) 03:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Created Category:Kuwaiti women novelists. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

I've updated the list within this section to include all (I hope) of the newly-created cats. Please review and if the list looks ok, I'll make a request for Bot Run #3. Does anything need to be added or removed? Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Category:Singaporean women writers created. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 21:11, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Created Category:Flemish women writers. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:02, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Created Category:Montenegrin women writers. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:53, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Mary Berry

The naming of the articles Mary Berry, Mary Berry (food writer), Mary Berry (writer) are under discussion, see talk:Mary Berry (food writer) and talk:Mary Berry (writer) -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 06:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Category discoveries

I discovered Category:Female Togolese writers while looking for categories to create earlier today. At the very least it needs retitling to bring it into line with the others under the project, no? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 18:22, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I moved it to Category:Togolese women writers. Thx! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:51, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Any time. I'm on the lookout for anything else we should be aware of. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 06:39, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Popcat

If you notice a cat with few entries -- you be the judge of what's "few" -- please add {{popcat}} to the cat. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:03, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Non-free images at Eleanor Hibbert

There's currently a dispute on how many non-free images should be used in the article on Eleanor Hibbert, focusing on whether those images meet the non-free content criteria. Community input at Talk:Eleanor Hibbert#Non-free images would be appreciated (as well as more general help with that article, I believe). Huon (talk) 19:14, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

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Harej (talk) 16:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Question at the Village Pump

There is a question at the Village Pump that should be of interest to this group:

Risk in identifying as a woman editor on Misplaced Pages

--Lightbreather (talk) 02:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Category:Women bloggers at Categories for Deletion

See here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 05:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Non-diffusing subcategory

A big thank you to Gobonobo for adding Nondiffusing subcategory templates to the appropriate women writer cats. It definitely needed to be done. If any of our project members aren't familiar with a "nondiffusing subcat", please do read up on its importance. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:34, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Uncatted women writer stubs

(I've moved this conversation from our user talkpages to the project talkpage.)

Hi Rosie. I've been doing some WPWW tagging of stubs in some of the subcats of Category:European writer stubs. I've found quite a few stubs that had no WPWW tag, and others that looked to be bot-tagged with WPWW. Is there a bot that tags new stubs in Category:Writer stubs, Category:Poet stubs, Category:Journalist stubs, etc, on a regular basis? INeverCry 02:51, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

  • I think the only times it's automatic is when someone requests a bot run. Thanks for adding the WPWW talkpage template to those stubs. I've been working on adding it, too. It would be a sweet if a bot did it automatically on a routine basis, though. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:32, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey everyone, I really don't know much about bots. Does anyone have an idea of how to make this happen? Like INeverCry, I've spent a lot of time recently adding the WPWW template to article talkpages so how do we get a bot to do it automatically/routinely? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I set up a feed for women writers at User:AlexNewArtBot. Feel free to change the rules for the feed. Different rules can be applied to change which articles the feed will pick up. I only felt competent enough to borrow/modify the rules that WikiProject Women artists uses. Once the bot runs, we'll see if it works. gobonobo 13:18, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Gobonobo, awesome and thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:53, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Table of contents

I really don't think that the {{TOC left}} template should be placed after a section heading (see WP:LEADORDER and WP:TOC). This may give rise to accessibility problems; it is known that text between TOC and first heading is an accessibility issue, and it may also be that where the {{TOC left}} has now been placed, the content from that point down to the "Assessing importance" subheading - i.e. the "Women writers articles by quality and importance" grid - is similarly inaccessible. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Notice and invitation

  1. There is a redirect discussion that may be of interest to this group.
  2. Have you heard of the Kaffeeklatsch? It is a test area for women to hear and support each other. The idea came about as a result of a discussion at meta regarding my IdeaLab proposal (yet open) for WikiProject Women.
Now that the klatsch has survived an MfD and WMF legal has said that it does not violate the non discrimination policy, I am looking for women editors who might like to join.
Although I have started a couple of discussions, they are not urgent. For now, the "Please introduce yourself" discussion is more important! I want to take it slow at first and build a small group before trying to address heavy topics or come up with big goals. For now, the klatsch is there as a sort of refuge. I hope you will consider joining, and invite other women editors, too, if you wish.

--Lightbreather (talk) 16:00, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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