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		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless contributions and upkeep of the Recent Deaths pages; your efforts are appreciated. Keep up the good work! Weatherman90 03:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

		The Australian Barnstar of National Merit
		for your efforts with Australian articles Gnangarra 00:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		This is for your tireless contributions and work on the Recent Deaths section. I stride to make my edits like yours. Keep up the good work! Chandlerjoeyross (talk) 22:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

		Death Star
		This Death Star award is again for all your hard work on the Recent Deaths pages. Kiwipat (talk) 23:12, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Recovery
		I am honored to award you this barnstar for your work in improving the article Kelley Abbey in the face of pending deletion. Your diligent WP:AFTER improves the project for all its readers. Great job! Schmidt, 19:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	For your excellent speedy deletion tagging :). Ironholds (talk) 11:57, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		Good catches on the Sandy Hook article Amadscientist (talk) 12:49, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	For excellent work objectively streamlining over-referencing at Victoria Leigh Soto. Jokestress (talk) 12:22, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

	The Hard Worker's Barnstar
	For formatting the references on the annual "Deaths in XXXX" pages into a less-unwieldy more-efficient format, thus reducing pageload times. — Wyliepedia 03:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Nicos Anastasiades - Well spotted, he created eight such articles before I could get a block in!  Ronhjones  23:48, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

	The Special Barnstar
	Your userpage is brilliant!, I had literally laughed out loud & I thought me laughing at 4am would be impossible but seems not :) Thanks! :), Regards, -→Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 03:19, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

HI! THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK!

JackGann (talk) 07:11, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

		The Multiple Barnstar
		Thank you for fixing my linkrot on the Alan Henning page. --108.176.24.195 (talk) 02:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

My DYK

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Fame at last...

How does Misplaced Pages deal with a mass shooting? A frenzied start gives way to a few core editors. No mention of me though:). Nice diagrams, and a quick look at the page histories of shooting incidents will show a core of regular editors.--♦IanMacM♦ 17:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Were you aware?

I assume that you have been made aware of this. But, in the event that you were not, I wanted to point it out to you and bring this to your attention. Your name was mentioned in this article: How does Misplaced Pages deal with a mass shooting? A frenzied start gives way to a few core editors. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:46, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Malcolm

Hi WWGB, re: your addition to the article. I am wondering if "Young is currently on leave from AC/DC while he battles a serious medical condition" would be better as "is currently on leave from AC/DC while he receives treatment for an unspecified medical condition." Flat Out let's discuss it 06:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

That's fine with me. Regards, WWGB (talk) 06:34, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks mate and thanks for updating the article Flat Out let's discuss it 06:36, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

MH17

05 Belgian victimes + 01 Dutch-Belgian http://www.dhnet.be/actu/belgique/crash-du-vol-mh17-une-sixieme-victime-belge-53c8fd423570667a638b686b — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred301278 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand this language, however, the nationality of victims is determined from the plane's manifest, which reports the passport the passenger declared at checkin. There may have been 5 Belgians, however, only 4 presented a Belgian passport at checkin. WWGB (talk) 14:41, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Liam Jurrah

Are you sure he's not being paid? People playing football at all sorts of levels below the AFL get paid, even in my local suburban club. HiLo48 (talk) 08:07, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Again, do you actually have any evidence that he is playing in an amateur league? They are really quite rare. HiLo48 (talk) 22:27, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

You know the ropes as well as I do. The onus is on evidence for inclusion, not exclusion. Unless it is sourced that he is a professional then it doesn't fly. WWGB (talk) 22:33, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

No. Most adult AFL players are professionals. Jurrah certainly has been up until now. It's really you who has to prove that his status has changed. HiLo48 (talk) 02:41, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Two cans of beer and a meat pie after the game do not a professional make. (Although in Jurrah's case it's more likely two slabs of beer.) WWGB (talk) 04:11, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

So, you have no facts, just guessing, and racially abusing. Thought so. HiLo48 (talk) 16:58, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Racial abuse? That's too funny! I never mentioned race. Jurrah is just a pisshead, white or black. Anyway, I'm reverting nothing, this "conversation" is going nowhere and I am bored with it. But you cannot resist making a further comment. Can you? Heh? WWGB (talk) 22:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Deaths in August 2014

I'm not changing it to the proper chronology. I don't mind line-item simple fixes, but this, again, is ridiculous. I was going to do the add-in Sunday morning but was away from a computer. Live and learn, I guess. — Wyliepedia 03:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I present to you...

Kerrie Biddell. — Wyliepedia 08:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Nice article Wylie, well done mate! You have done the lady proud. I also was surprised to see that she has the same middle name as my wife. Regards, WWGB (talk) 10:58, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

"Misleading"

Do you believe readers to be gullible? Or unable to tell what they won their award for? This pickiness hinders the ability to highlight many aspects of their career. Murphy is notable and has done way more than Eleanor and Franklin. Rusted AutoParts 12:26, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

That was uncalled for. I came to actually discuss and you act like a child and not even address what I said. Rusted AutoParts 12:30, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

If you write Award winning (blah and blah) you are implying that two awards were won. It is not difficult to write prose that reports notable achievements and tells the truth. WWGB (talk) 12:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

How is it lying? All that's being stated is Murphy won an Emmy. The entries submitted to highlight her career do not suggest she won for those. And it doesn't mislead the reader either. I'm not implying anything, you're just reading into the prose of the writing. Rusted AutoParts 12:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Let's see what others say at Talk:Deaths in 2014. WWGB (talk) 12:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Elaine Lee

I didn't know that removing the incorrect age (75) constituted a serious change, rather than a minor truncation. Quis separabit? 12:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

IMO, tampering with a source is never acceptable, no matter how wrong it might be. WWGB (talk) 12:53, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Disease-related deaths (narrowed down by location, i.e. Category:Disease-related deaths in Australia, Category:Disease-related deaths in the United States, Category:Disease-related deaths in New York) is a general category used by default when there is a death from unspecified natural causes — i.e. not death from a road accident, a drowning, a murder, etc. — and the place of death is known. Everyone dies of something (when the doctors don't know they say "heart failure" or "respiratory distress"), or we'd all live forever, you know. Quis separabit? 15:08, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

There is no indication of a cause of death. It really is inappropriate to invent things. For all we know, she may have killed herself, fallen off a ladder or suffocated on a prawn cutlet. WWGB (talk) 15:21, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough, that is the distinction between natural death and unnatural death. Had she killed herself of or died in an accident presumably that would have been reported by now, whereas sometimes the nature of a person's final illness is not disclosed or specified by the surviving family and remains unknown (i.e. like actor Ralph Waite or writer Tom Clancy). But I take your point. One mustn't boilerplate. Yours, Quis separabit? 22:38, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hostages

I'm not sure you have to call the hostages -- some of whom have been beheaded, and others of whom are living -- dumb, whatever your personal views. They've probably taken enough abuse. --Epeefleche (talk) 02:56, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Clearly, to make a reference to "The Beatles" they are neither dead nor captive. They are dumb to associate an English accent (not a Scouse accent) with a Liverpool band. This whole Beatles thing is a crock, manufactured and promoted by the media. WWGB (talk) 03:27, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Not clear. In the least. Hostages who have been ransomed out and released have reported that they and those still hostage or since decapitated referred to the guards as such. Anyway - whatever your POV, perhaps in this time you could hold off on making hostile assertions against the hostages, some of whom are living people, and others of whom are freshly beheaded. Just a suggestion. Epeefleche (talk) 04:13, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Traffic collision.

Thanks for the mental image here! And for the formatting, of course. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:10, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Election links talk page

Given your previous input you may be interested in this. https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australian_politics#Election_links The Tepes (talk) 06:18, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

John Holt

I'd like to invite you to provide your opinion on this topic. Rusted AutoParts 21:11, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Lynsey de Paul

Somewhat similar to John Holt, you may care to take a look at the debate over the date of birth (and therefore age at death) claims for this English singer-songwriter. Her talk page is worth a read, particularly concerning the 'reliability', or otherwise, of so-called reliable sources.

Frankly I do not have the definitive answer myself, but you may be interested in the claims, and counter-claims, which have somewhat riddled her article's editing history following her demise. Regards,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:17, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Reply

I looked at his article (Wiki page). It's saying in the affirmative that he was born in 1950, making him 64. Rusted AutoParts 03:51, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

At the time of my reversion, his article was presenting two conflicting dates of birth. If the article now presents an agreed position, I have no problem with the death list reflecting that agreed age. WWGB (talk) 04:10, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Protesting the speedy deletion of Bfpage/sandbox/Vane-Wright

This content was contained in my sandbox. How is it possible to speedily delete the drafting of an article in a user sandbox?. I am removing the the speedy deletion template and I marking this sandbox to be entirely deleted because now the contents are gone. Thank you for reminding me that the best way to work on an article is off-line in a wordprocessing document. The policy of speedily deleting sandbox pages should be re-examined. I would like to discuss this practice on the appropriate noticeboard. This practice would be extremely discouraging to a new editor who is told that article creation should be done in the sandbox. I am assuming that the proposed deletion was done in good faith, but I certainly question the practice and the person who tagged it for speedy deletion. If I had walked away for about a half an hour to get a couple coffee and seeing that my draft had been deleted. I would have been quite furious. I have assumed good faith on your part and you should have assume good faith on my part and have seen that this was a sandbox page in which I was collecting a variety of references that would have been used in about 15 articles. If this sandbox page had been deleted, Misplaced Pages would have lost some incredibly valuable references for articles which have very few references. I recommend that the next time a sandbox page is nominated for speedy deletion, the editor proposing the speedy deletion should actually read the content of the sandbox page. The contents of this sandbox page did not represent anything close to an article. It was simply a collection of references that would be soon inserted into a variety of articles. Best regards,

  Bfpage |leave a message  13:35, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

See my reply at User talk: Bfpage/sandbox/Vane-Wright. WWGB (talk) 21:12, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Classic case

...of you never know what you find when click a name on the Deaths page: Bernie Wolfe. I have tried to clean it up some. Whew! — Wyliepedia 18:20, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Whitlam memorial service

Hi WWGB: you changed the caption to the Gough Whitlam memorial service photo on the ground that the speaker is not Aboriginal, so that this could not be the Welcome to Country. The speaker is Aunty Millie Ingram, performing a Welcome to Country on behalf of the Cadigal people of the Eora nation - I took the photo. A Welcome to Country can be given only by a person of that "country" and Aunty/Uncle is a respectful title given to an Aboriginal elder. Many Australian Aborigines do not look evidently Aboriginal. Wikiain (talk) 21:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Brothers for Life/ BFL / B4L

WWGB, your interest in BLP issues is well known. I was wondering if you could take the time to let me know how many 'violations' I have on a page I have been developing on-and-off for over a year. User:220 of Borg/Brothers for Life (B4L) is about the Sydney based gang started by convicted murderer Bassam Hamzy.

There have been numerous shootings, some deaths from same, drive-bys and other violent events going back over 2 years. People have been reliably named as charged, but not a large number of convictions. I think I may have to remove the names of those B4L members not yet convicted?

This note is prompted by there having been another B4L related shooting reported overnight. This time Hamzys mother Lola has been shot! . (His aunt was previously shot and a cousin shot dead) There is a possible complication in that there is an African based 'Brothers for Life' group that is a charitable institution IIRC. A hatnote should take care of that, though they don't have a WP page. Regards, 220 of 02:59, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

exhausting

keeping up with the rubbish, fyi - cheers satusuro 08:32, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Flags

Hello, what's the reason you are persistently removing the flag icons in International section of the 2014 Sydney hostage crisis page. This is standard I have seen in many other pages in International section. If you have any good reason please tell me otherwise don't waste others time.

Ravikantc (talk) 08:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

You like it, I don't. Find others to agree with you. WWGB (talk) 08:45, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

we have policies ] and WP:ICONDECORATION in this case I agree they add nothing to the article and will be removed in time as the list is changed to prose Gnangarra 09:02, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	thanks for your efforts on that Sydney article today Gnangarra 13:49, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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File:Man Haron Monis.jpeg

I declined the speedy deletion request on this image for the simple reason that fair use is claimed: we don't delete images as copyvios if fair use is claimed. If you think that it's an invalid fair-use claim, you need to follow a different process; I will be happy to help you follow it if you wish. Nyttend (talk) 22:49, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Choice of siege location re Man Haron Monis

Hi WWGB,
Re your revert of my edit, here do you have a source re "... cafe chosen for proximity to TV station"? Regards, 220 of 08:28, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Your hammer is needed

At the Deaths page, someone is trying to reinstate the fuller cites, claiming the simpler ones "rot". I've fixed them as of 04:54, 22 December 2014 (UTC). You might need to help control this. Thanks. — Wyliepedia 04:54, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

2014 Sydney hostage crisis

Thanks for reverting my edit, which was probably the most foolish I've ever done. I tried to enhance the readability of the sentence despite knowing that there was possibly no connection between the woman removing her head covering and the siege, and that there had already been much discussion on the issue. I can only assume that after getting up in the morning and doing the edit, I had not been as wide awake as I thought I was. Thanks for picking it up. Akld guy (talk) 04:35, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

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WWGB,
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Charlie Hebdo

Can you please stop deleting the mention of the origin of the victims as in here. While it may seem irrelevant to you, it has been mentioned by reliable sources for a reason and therefore, it deserves to to be reported. Should you feel the need to discuss it, please use the talk page so that everyone can have an input on this subject. MoorNextDoor (talk) 00:56, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

I asked you nicely not to delete sourced material and to discuss the matter if you feel the need to, yet, you ignored my message and did it again. MoorNextDoor (talk) 05:14, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Please explain why you deleted the references for the descent and ethnicity of one of the four or five jewish victims whereas the article still displays five references for the descent and ethnicity of the one muslim victim among all 17 killed by the terrorists? Asymmetrical weight indicates bias. XavierItzm (talk) 15:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

 : Content restored. Content without external source is not to delete. Yug (talk) 11:07, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

In short, when other Misplaced Pages articles are duly cited and themselves contains the sources, it's ok to keep :) Yug (talk) 11:08, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Please direct me to such a provision within Misplaced Pages guidelines. WWGB (talk) 11:41, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

/* Deletion of RS-supported material

Please don't restore RS-supported material, as you did here. Furthermore, for your information it appears that while generally a niqab is not head-to-toe, in some circumstances it is. In any event, please avoid OR edits, involving deletions of RS-supported text. --Epeefleche (talk) 08:12, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Porte de Vincennes hostage crisis

You removed material that was being discussed here without actually engaging in the discussion. Can you please respond?VR _talk 01:11, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

EW

Hi WWGB. Would you please stop edit warring on Death of Leelah Alcorn. You're up to about six reverts, and may be blocked if you continue reverting. Thank you.- MrX 13:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)