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Revision as of 04:54, 28 December 2014 editMichael Demiurgos (talk | contribs)857 edits Doing that here. Didn't realize it was such a big deal about a simple non-offensive name change.← Previous edit Revision as of 04:57, 28 December 2014 edit undoMichael Demiurgos (talk | contribs)857 edits That should fix it.Next edit →
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* ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|BRIT Awards}}''' – Every year's ceremony has capital letters in its article. ] (]) 00:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC) * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|BRIT Awards}}''' – Every year's ceremony has capital letters in its article. ] (]) 00:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


* "(])"-'''] → {{no redirect|Michael Demiurgos}}'''. This person is not primary subject of the same name. Current name must redirect to ]. * "(])"-'''] → {{no redirect|1936-39 Muslim revolt in Palestine}}''' - It wasn't racially motivated, it was religious motivated.
1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine to 1936–39 Muslim revolt in Palestine: It wasn't racially motivated, it was religious motivated.


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December 28, 2014

December 27, 2014

  • (Discuss) – Memorial Plaza → Memorial Plaza (Missouri) – The current page "Memorial Plaza" is about the park named "Memorial Plaza" in St. Louis, Missouri, but the National September 11th Memorial & Museum in New York is also referred to as "Memorial Plaza". The current page should be renamed "Memorial Plaza (Missouri)" and than we should make the name "Memorial Plaza" into a disambiguation, linking to Memorial Plaza in St. Louis, and the National September 11th Memorial & Museum in New York. CookieMonster755 (talk) 21:26, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Anti-abortion movements → Pro-life movement – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC) This is the far more common name and the one chosen by members themselves. The article mentions AP style for "abortion rights" and "anti-abortion" movements but the other article we have named here at pro-choice. Several related articles and categories use "pro-life" in the name here on en.wp: in fact, this is the only one that doesn't. It really makes no sense. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

December 26, 2014

  • (Discuss) – Devonport, Devon → Devonport, Plymouth – Per WP:UKPLACE - "For the minority of localities ... when unambiguously in a town/city unitary authority and the settlement itself (according to reliable, external sources) ] is used.". In contrast to using Plymouth, "Devonport, Devon" seems both unhelpful (it ignores the Plymouth connection) and awkward (the repetition). That said, I'm not convinced that using Plymouth is right either. It now is a district of Plymouth, but its earlier history as a distinct entity was emphatically distinct from of Plymouth. Nilfanion (talk) 12:44, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Keychest → Disney Movies Anywhere – The Keychest article discusses the development of the technology that would eventually power Disney's digital rights management platform. That platform, called Disney Movies Anywhere, was recently launched in 2014. This article should be moved to Disney Movies Anywhere and included as a section in a larger article about the entire Disney Movies Anywhere platform. Pbarnes (talk) 02:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

December 25, 2014

December 24, 2014

  • (Discuss) – Nexon → NEXON Co., Ltd. – According to their website, financial filings, Tokyo Stock Exchange and all company press releases their official name is NEXON Co., Ltd. Also, the NEXON is in all caps. Being that NEXON Co., Ltd. has many subsidiaries under the Nexon name, this name change will not only be correct but serve to disambiguate according to WP:D. OnceaMetro (talk) 16:02, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – The Interview (2014 film) → The Interview – The only other article with the title The Interview is the 1998 film, but I feel that this is the primary topic. Besides winning two minor awards, the '98 film has not received any more coverage than any other film released into theaters. This film is the subject of a major controversy. The controversy has led to cyber terrorist and even President Obama has commented on the movie. JDDJS (talk) 00:46, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

December 23, 2014

  • (Discuss) – Nara, Nara → Nara – As the various comments above attest, this title is a reducio ad adsurdum of a poorly thought out guideline. If you think that anyone in the real world calls this city "Nara, Nara", check out the first page of hits on Google Books: Not one is a bona fide double named English-language reference to the city. The WP:MOS-JA creates an exception for designated cities. Nara's population is not quite large enough to be a designated city. But as a major tourist destination, it is better known than most of the designated cities. Cf. WP:UKPLACE, which recommends "Lincoln, England, not Lincoln, Lincolnshire." NotUnusual (talk) 03:15, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

December 22, 2014

December 21, 2014

  • (Discuss) – Adam Birch → Joey Mercury – As noted in previous discussions, Birch's performances as "Joey Mercury" in the mid-2000s had considerably higher exposure than his 2000-2001 appearances as "Joey Matthews" with ECW. He is now once again performing regularly on WWE television as "Joey Mercury", increasing his exposure under this name. A Google News Archive search returns 93 hits for "Joey Matthews" wrestling and 626 hits for "Joey Mercury" wrestling. McPhail (talk) 20:23, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Russians in Canada → ? – Russians in Canada" implies that these are Russian citizens living in Canada, which in many instances is simply not the case. Many have never lived in Russia nor hold Russian citizenship, it also implies that these are in some way "foreigners" in Canada, as they are not classified as Canadians. Instead, these are more appropriately referred to Canadians of Russian descent (or Russian Canadians) per WP: PRECISION. I eat BC Fish (talk)18:44, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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  • (Discuss) – Vilyam Genrikhovich Fisher → Rudolf Abel – Misplaced Pages should use the most WP:COMMONNAME for the title. Even the article itself says that the person is "better known by the alias Rudolf Ivanovich Abel". Google Books search returns 49 results for "Vilyam Genrikhovich Fisher" , 36 for "Vilyam Fisher" and 11,700 hits for "Rudolf Abel" . Similar situation is with Google News: 223 hits for "Rudolf Abel" , 35 for "Vilyam Genrikhovich Fisher" , and 26 for "Vilyam Fisher" . Vanjagenije (talk) 21:50, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Horn (instrument) → French horn – The French horn is not the only musical instrument called the horn, therefore the disambiguator "(instrument)" does not adequately disambiguate. In many circles, the English horn or alto horn is the musical instrument that is simply called "the horn". Orchestras and concert bands call the French horn simply "the horn", but British brass bands use the word "horn" by itself to refer exclusively to the alto horn, as do Salvation Army brass bands around the world (the baritone horn is simply referred to as the "baritone"). The International Horn Society is biased towards giving the French horn precedence and exclusively calling this instrument "the horn" because their society is devoted to this instrument. "French horn" is the title that most of our users are going to expect for this article. We would support inclusivity and user expectations by moving this article to "French horn" and by redirecting the title "Horn (instrument)" to the Horn disambiguation page. Neelix (talk) 02:15, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Ford Classic → Ford Consul Classic – The Ford Classic nameplate is ambiguous; right now, an Indian saloon version of the Fiesta is sold under this nameplate (which is currently mentioned in this article, but is a totally unrelated car and thus would not be a disaster to remove any text about). This car is also actually known as the Consul Classic, with "Classic" simply being shorthand. This can be shown best by looking at the owner's club, where they describe the cars as "Ford Consul Classic & Consul Capri", whilst their name is "Ford Classic & Capri Owners Club". Searching on Google for "Ford Classic" produces very few immediate results for this car, whilst Consul Classic immediately gives you a whole bunch. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 17:40, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Islamic terrorism → Islamist terrorism – Most Muslims wouldn't want to be associated with it so WP:AT, with text "..The title indicates what the article is about..", applies. In the article Islamic terrorism#Ideology clearly presents Islamists as the faction behind terrorist attacks. The following section, Islamic terrorism#Criticism of Islamic terrorist ideology, then demonstrates a high level of disapproval of Islamic/Islamist terrorist attacks among Muslims. WP:LABEL (also accessed by WP:TERRORIST) speaks of value laden labels yet, in this situation, it can be argued that Islamic is a more value laden label even than terrorist. Many Muslims roundly condemn terrorist action. Searches indicate about half the level of hits for "Islamist terrorism" and "Islamist terrorist" in comparison to searches on "Islamic terrorism" and "Islamic terrorist". The Islamist terms have a far more specific meaning on a subject that is not representative of Islam. I am not sure whether sources have really thought things through with regard to their usage. --Relisted. Dekimasuよ! 00:45, 19 December 2014 (UTC) GregKaye ✍♪ 14:40, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Š-L-M → S-L-M – The use in Arabic and East Semitic languages outweighs other usages. In any case, use of the S in Hebrew relates to the use of a letter form, ש, which if, in modern times, is given a diacritic dot in to the top right of the letter, will be pronounced "Sh" but if it is given a diacritic dot to the top left, will be pronounced "S". Nikud, diactitic type marks were only relatively recently added to texts and it is hard to say how things would have been pronounced in earlier times. Arabic has Salaam while Hebrew has Shalom. Arabic has Islam while Hebrew has Jerusalem (which in Hebrew is pronounced Yerushalayim). Yes, Islam has a verbal link to peace. I see no reason why this connection cannot be fairly presented.
    Now, as an abuse of talk page access, I'd like to share one of my favourite songs, sung by Iraqi-Israeli performer Mosh Ben Ari, then of the band Sheva, The song with its repeated but hopeful point is the wonderful Salaam, translation as in the Misplaced Pages article here. It chokes me every time . GregKaye ✍♪ 07:03, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Bluestein's FFT algorithm → Chirp Z-transform – This article confuses me. In the same sense that the FFT is a particular implementation of the DFT, it would seem that the CZT is a general transform that can be implemented in different ways, and the Bluestein algorithm is a particular implementation (and there's probably a slow, direct implementation?) The CZT computes samples in spirals around the Z plane, and the DFT and "zoom-FFT" are special cases of the CZT that you get when setting the parameters so that it only loops around the unit circle. I think the article should be about the chirp-Z transform, and the Bluestein algorithm should be a section in that article. If it was originally formulated as an DFT algorithm, and the more general Chirp-Z was invented later, that should be mentioned, but the article should be about the transform, not the history. (And it should have a picture of the spiral samples.) — Omegatron (talk) 21:21, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Episcopal Diocese of Minnesota → Episcopal Church in Minnesota – According to the comments here, made by someone who says they are an officer of the body in question, the name used internally and in official communications by the diocese is "Episcopal Church in Minnesota." As I can see no reason not to use the official name, which has no obvious ambiguity or other problems that I can think of, I suggest moving the article to the title the body currently uses and leaving the other name as a redirect. John Carter (talk) 21:46, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Tumor Treating Fields → Alternating electric field therapy – I've been reviewing a number of sources in preparation for an update to this page, and I've noticed that many independent english-language clinical review / guideline organizations (e.g. NCCN and UpToDate) seem to prefer the term "alternating electric field therapy" to refer to this technology in a generic sense. The term "tumor treating fields" was coined by Novocare researchers, and "NovoTTF" is the original, trademarked name for their device. It's not clear to me whether other companies that might produce devices in the future working on similar principles would be legally able to call them "tumor treating fields". "Tumor treating fields" is also a bit suboptimal from the standpoint of WP:POVTITLE, since it implies that the technology is efficacious in "treating tumors", while there is still substantial controversy among experts on this point. Finally, I think using a name that refers to the overall therapy, rather than intangible "fields" will lead to less awkward writing (such as the unwieldy first sentence "Tumor Treating Fields (sometimes abbreviated as TTF) is a neologism used to describe a type of electromagnetic field therapy using low-intensity electrical fields. --Relisted. Andrewa (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2014 (UTC) Rustavo 23:00, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Video game genres → List of video game genres – The article in its current state is literally a list of genres. The title is even plural, whereas WP:PLURAL is against this and film genre and music genre aren't. More importantly, this article is not encyclopedic. Film genre is a relatively short article, but it discusses the categorization and definition of genres. The article attempts to explain what a genre is in film and how they are used. It does not list the genres themselves. I suggest this article be moved entirely while a new article called Video game genre is made. The lead section of this article could be used well for the new article, as a start. I'd love to help with the change and with improving the new Video game genre-article, but I'd like to know if people support this, seeing as it is currently a top-priority article and apparently B-class. --Relisted. Dekimasuよ! 19:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC) ~Maplestrip (chat) 11:01, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Raymond Chan Chi-chuen → Ray Chan – I'm surprise I was not made aware of the previous move, even though I created this page. It all seems like someone is trying quietly make all these moves to this non-existing HK convention as that IP stalker is saying without notifying anyone. There's no standard for Hong Kong names nor there is a convention on Misplaced Pages, so we follow the Chinese convention or English convention. If you got a Hong Kong convention, show it to me. Raymond is an English name, therefore follows the English convention with only First and Last name in the title, in this case Raymond Chan or Ray Chan. If he's more notable by his Chinese name, then rename the title to Chan Chi-chuen TheAvatar (discuss–?) 17:25, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Energy systems → Energy system (biology) – This was discussed several years ago, but never acted on. The term is highly ambiguous, with any number of possible meanings, including the general concept of public utility systems that provide energy to consumers, or systems within an appliance or other piece of technology that control its energy use. I happened to find this page while trying to link the term in a quote about energy systems for urban planning areas. bd2412 T 02:52, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Penn State child sex abuse scandal → Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal – This has been a frequent suggestion over the years, so for some, it is likely natural to discount another request. However, after two years since the last discussion, it appears to me that my suggested title is a better one than our current title. Although there is definitely unreliability in Google search hit numbers, they are worth examining. A search for "Penn State child sex abuse scandal" yields about 19,400 results, whereas a search for "Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal" yields nearly 50,000 results. Moreover, recent articles favor "Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal": Centre Daily Times Allentown Morning Call FOX Sports Big Ten Blog NBC Philadelphia CBS News, while I found few-to-no articles published in 2014 that used the old title. Moreover, even sites that have a repository of articles on the subject, while the repository may include Penn State, the articles (created more recently than the repository), refer to it as the Sandusky scandal rather than the Penn State scandal, indicating a gradual, recent shift (examples: NBC Philadelphia and CBS News). Overall, there seems to have been a shift both from local and national media. According to WP:POVTITLE, in order to use a title that does not reflect a neutral point of view, it must be the predominant title used in the media, which as demonstrated, it is not (admittedly, it is one of the titles used in the media, but no longer the primary one). Consequently, I believe the title "Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal" not only more accurately reflects the facts of the case (insofar as only Sandusky has been convicted of anything, while Penn State officials remain in pre-trial limbo and much of the NCAA and Freeh Report's findings have been criticized/refuted, thus at least partially exonerating Penn State), but is now the predominant title used by reliable sources, and thus should be the title of Misplaced Pages's article according to our naming conventions. Thank you. Go Phightins! 20:26, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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