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GamerPro64

Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (11/8/5); Scheduled to end 05:25, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Nomination by Hahc21

I first came across GamerPro64 the first time I decided to go ahead and gather the strength to file my first good topic nomination. From there on, all my interactions with him have been so positive and pleasant that at start I thought he was an administrator already. He has been a Wikipedian since 2008, showing a high level of dedication to article content creation and well as content quality. As of now, he has managed to craft more than 12,000 edits, among which can be found one featured and several good articles. He has been serving as a delegate at Feature topic candidates for a long time, and has also done a bit of administrative work here and there (not much, but I'm fully convinced that he knows how things should be done). I know many of you might find yourselves asking what makes GamerPro a good candidate for adminship, and I think it's his good demeanor, openness and ease of communication. He is an experienced and seasoned user, always abiding by our standards on civility and fellowship. What else could we ask? → Call me Hahc21 02:17, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Co-nomination from Crisco 1492

In the years that I've known him, GamerPro64 has been a helpful, busy bee. He's done consistent and excellent work as a coordinator at featured topics (an unsung area of the encyclopedia which nonetheless is home to some very good content), and always been prepared to answer questions regarding FTC on both his talk page and the FTC talk page: responsible, friendly, and approachable, just what we want in an admin and delagate. He is a strong content contributor, mostly to video game articles (as indicated by his user name), but he's also shown an interest in areas such as film and American history, and is knowledgeable in article content policy. Far as I can tell, his biggest flaw is his love for the Nintendo 64; the SNES was a bit better, even if it was 48 bits worse . — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:15, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I accept the nomination. Thanks guys. GamerPro64 20:57, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?

A: I have taken part in a few deletion process on the site a few times. I would probably help with decision making on pages that are tagged for deletion. Handling articles that are tagged for speedy deletion would also be something I would like to take part of. Another possible venture would be keeping an eye on articles that are protected under WP:Recent Changes. Keeping an eye on the Main Page is something I already do in terms of being part of some of the discussion on its talk page. Helping out with it all together would be another helpful thing as well. GamerPro64 16:46, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

2. What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?

A: In terms of article content, I believe that Anachronox would be a recent example of my work on the site. It's currently the only Featured Article I have under my belt and while I'm not that into sprucing up articles like other members of the Video Game WikiProject, this one I thought needed its due. I also keep the WPVG announcements template (previously known as the projects to-do list) maintained to show what articles are nominated in like FACs, GANs, FLCs and the like. It is the page I contribute the most and does help out the project. Then there is the fact that I am a delegate for Featured Topics, which I have closed nominations and processed new topics for the past three years. I find that to be the sector where I contribute the most to the site. GamerPro64 16:46, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A:I'm not sure if this does count as an example of a conflict, but I'll add it here anyway. During my early days here, I started up this thread on the Video Games Project, which is still one of the most replied threads on the project. Looking back at it, while it did do something with the importance ratings on some of the game consoles, I wasn't showing any civilly in the conversation. In fact, the thread looked even worse with stuff I posted on there that was removed before it finally was archived. I was at the age of 14 when I made the first posting and while I wouldn't use the excuse of being a teenager for my antics, I want to say that I have matured for the better and consider myself more productive on the site.

I can't honestly cannot think of any major conflicts during my time on the site. I did take a three month unannounced vacation from Misplaced Pages in 2012. It partially had to do with me going on my last boys scout trip. But also I realized that I, being on Misplaced Pages for four years, never took a break from the site. I thought it would be best if I just stepped away for a bit. GamerPro64 16:46, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Additional questions from NickGibson3900

4. You say you would like to help out in deletion processes. However you have only commented in ten AFDs in your wikipedia "career". In your own words, describe why you think you would be an asset at AFD/TFD/MFD/CFD/RFD.

A:I do admit that I should take part in AfDs more often. I think that I would be an asset to all the devisions of the deletion processes more so in closing the nominations themselves. I've closed reviews manually at FTC for years and I do know when there's a consensus reached. I especially want to do this without taking part of the review due to that being a Conflict of Interest. One must always have a neutral/uninvolved party around to state an opinion of both sides to an argument. GamerPro64 06:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

5. Please provide diffs of some speedy-deletion tagging.

A:I tried finding some articles that I tagged for speedy-deletion, like Talk:Mega Man 11. But I can't seem to provide any diffs of me tagging the deletions. According to Help:Page History, it says that "When a page is deleted, its revision history remains in the database and can be retrieved by an administrator, who can also undelete the page". So I don't think I, in my current position, can provide the diffs. GamerPro64 06:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Here is the diff for Mega Man 11, tagged as G8: (sorry, sysop-only) → Call me Hahc21 06:32, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Additional question from Vejvančický

6. Is there any other way how to find the articles you tagged for speedy-deletion, other than user CSD log and the deleted diffs/edits visible only by admins?

A:

Additional question from Miniapolis

7. Thanks for submitting this RFA. Why did you have your user page salted?

A:I didn't want my page to be created by someone else and have it be filled with vandalism. When I first started out, I wasn't sure how to create an article, let alone my own user page. Later on, I didn't think it was a big deal that I didn't have one. No one really called me out on it. So I thought it would be a safe bet to have it not be accessible for creation. But if people want me to have a user page for the sake of me having one, I'll ask to have it be unsalted and do so. GamerPro64 16:05, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

General comments

• Links for GamerPro64: GamerPro64 (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
• Edit summary usage for GamerPro64 can be found here.

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.

Discussion

Support

1. As nominator. → Call me Hahc21 05:26, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
2. As co-nom. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
3. Support He interacts nicely with other editors, he's been around long enough, and he is intelligent. These are essential ingredients, the rest can be learned. --I am One of Many (talk) 06:07, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
4. Seems a reasonable enough editor, been here a while, unlikely to break the wiki. While helpful, experience in deletion is not necessary to become an admin. —Kusma (t·c) 07:26, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
5. Support - Good and trusted editor, active community member, capable as admin. - Taketa (talk) 07:52, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
6. Support Because I wish to support based on what they have done, rather than oppose based on what they haven't. No redflags for me. —Frosty ☃ 09:24, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
7. Support- any candidate not failing my criteria (at least one AfD, one vandalism revert, no big blocks, a thousand mainspace edits, etc) gets my support. Cheers, Thanks, L235-Talk Ping when replying 13:40, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
8. Support - I've worked with GP64 for years at the WP:VG Newsletter and have had plenty of opportunity to observe him in action. This editor is active in the community - I notice his name frequently when I check the active WP:VG talkpage - but, significantly, his work also includes the unglamorous corners (e.g. WP:VG/NL and WP:VG/R) where dust and only a few tired wikignomes tend to collect. Though not article-space per se, edits in these areas address very important community-fostering and outreach goals. I think this speaks volumes regarding his motivations. GP64 isn't here to become popular or powerful. He's here to serve the community by keeping the gears turning and helping the encyclopedia show its best face to the outside world. In GP64 we have a sensible generalist editor who could expand the reach of his help with a bit of extra moppage. A lack of obvious green flags in CSD/XfD is not the same as a red flag for me. I have seen no actual red flags. -Thibbs (talk) 14:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
9. Support Jianhui67 14:49, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
10. Support. The pie chart appears to be lopsided because this editor does so much behind the scenes work coordinating, evaluating, and assisting. Nonetheless they have a row of FA and GA credits. I've looked at their deleted contributions and although there isn't much deletion tagging, it's all sensible. (Examples: Mowgli's Palace tagged as a hoax; File:Pilotwings hang.jpg tagged as corrupted file; Jon jafari nominated at Redirects for Discussion; and at Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Wright brothers/archive1 they correctly identified it as inappropriate since the article was not a FA.) As to overall number of edits, their account happens to be less than two weeks younger than mine, and they had much more of a fast start than me; I was made an admin in April 2012 with something north of 8,000 edits and much less community involvement, and that was the year they sensibly took some time off. There is life off-wiki, and there's an essay somewhere pointing out that even a relatively inactive admin (like me) offers useful help. I see only signs this editor will be helpful and wise in their mop work. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:01, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
11. Support Per nom, but I'm also pretty unconvinced by the conflicting suggestions that they should work more on articles and work more on XfD. There's no need for an admin to have deep experience at XfD unless they plan to close a lot of debates and most of that experience can be gained pretty easily "on the job" (spoiler: it's not as hard as it seems). Protonk (talk) 17:04, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose for now. Sorry, but one of the most critical roles of an administrator is knowing the fundamentals of policies governing XfDs. That knowledge is gained through interactions in the debates. Based on research presented by User:NickGibson3900 below, I'm not able to support at this time. —Gaff 06:13, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
2. Oppose for now. While GamerPro seems like a good candidate, the lack of participation at AfD is a bit of a red flag for me; I'd like to see a few more !votes, and a few NAC's would help a lot more in this reguard. A low edit count or a lack of CSD tagging isn't an issue for me; However, I will consider changing is a few non-admin closures are made in the next few days. --Mdann52talk to me! 06:39, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
3. Oppose. Looks like a good content editor, but there's insufficient experience in the stated areas of admin work (i.e. deletion) for me to be comfortable supporting. For CSD especially, keeping a log and demonstrating a high proportion of successful nominations is essential. Will be happy to support when more experience in deletion is gained. BethNaught (talk) 07:01, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
4. Oppose. For several reasons. 1/ Contribution history: Less than 15% (!) of all edits are to main space. 2/ The answer to Q4. An admin should know the difference between "conflict of interest" and involved. 3/ The answer to Q5. I am baffled that an admin candidate is not aware of the fact that the edit history of a deleted article is not visible to a non-admin. 4/ Basically no participation in AfDs whatsoever, even though this is an area where the candidate would like to contribute. All together, this is too much for me. The candidate seems like a solid enough member of the community, but more is needed to be a successful admin. I don't think a second RFA should be attempted before the candidate has more mainspace contributions, a more solid AfD and CSD record (activate Twinkle logging!), and a better understanding of policy. --Randykitty (talk) 10:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
5. Oppose Having some cute little icons over the top of your talk page or userpages will not speak about anything other than some amount of showoff. I am doubtful if GamerPro64 can contribute in Asian articles. Took him 6 years to make only 12,000 edits. Are we going to have another admin who get on this website just for making one edit a year? Bladesmulti (talk) 11:12, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

   • There is no requirement for administrators to be able to contribute to specific areas or edit on a regular basis. --Fauzan_{✉ mail} 13:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

6. Oppose – GamerPro64, you need to make more edits to article space and participate more in XfDs, if that's why you are getting the admin tools. Also, your answers to the questions above are not satisfactory, as Randykitty states above. You are a good member of the community, however, and you should retry in about six months. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:28, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
7. Oppose with regret. GamePro64 looks like solid future Admin material. But, at the risk of piling on, s/he needs a little more work in the mainspace with content creation and also in the adminny side of things. I suggest six months of concentrating on actual editing on articles coupled with some work in AfD. Most of the other issues mentioned are not a big deal and a reasonably intelligent editor who has demonstrated good will can learn that stuff as you go along. Come back in six months with more of a record in AfD and mainspace edits and I think you will have a good shot at passing. Good luck! -Ad Orientem (talk) 13:42, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
8. Oppose with deep regret per Ad above. Also s/he opposed my Featured Pictures nomination which I know shouldn't count for anything but deep down probably does however hard I try. But good luck with the block! Coat of Many Colours (talk) 17:45, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Neutral Spent the last twenty minutes researching GamerPro64. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see GamerPro64 made an a admin, at will defiantly support if there is a second RFA (hopefully that won't be needed ). I have made the following observations:
   • Great job at Good/Featured Topic Candidates
   • Nice job at WikiProject Video Games
   • However GamerPro64 has only participated at ten AFDs (only 2 this year) and, by my count, at least seven were: Per xxxx, per nom, or a pile-on vote at the end of the nomination. Also only one nomination at AFD
   • A relatively low mainspace count. Only ~1800 out of ~12000
   • Also could you please create a user page with a bit about you. E.g. languages, experience, etc. — NickGibson3900 05:51, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

   There's at least two admins who does not have a user page. User pages aren't required. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:29, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

2. Neutral for now. Good edit summary usage, but should participate in more AFDs, more mainspace edits and create a user page to get people know you better, per NickGibson3900. Romtam 06:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

   • Thank you both for raising the fact that I do not have a user page. Even though I am overall against making a user page (six years of not having one will leave a lasting effect), I will make one if it will benefit the overall outcome. However, my user page is currently salted due to me requesting that action years ago. GamerPro64 06:32, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

   • If you want, I will unprotect your userpage right now; just let me know. StringTheory11 (t • c) 15:57, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

3. Neutral for now. A redlinked username in my watchlist suggests a very new user (often a vandal/spammer or incompetent newbie) and hence the edit needs to be checked. I expect an admin not to have a redlinked username; just saying "Hello" on your userpage or redirecting it to your talk page would "fix" the redlink. DexDor (talk) 06:52, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
4. Neutral. There are good points and bad points (it's a good start when you're namechecked on a major page such as WP:FTC, but I'm concerned about the candidate's assumption that this translates directly to AfD and about the lack of user-page) but I'm going to wait on some more questions before moving my vote to Support (though wouldn't Oppose), since this is still within the first 24 hours of the RfA. LS1979 (talk) 15:44, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
5. Neutral; the lack of AfD contributions and the lack of a userpage do not bother me. However, the lack of mainspace contributions and the lack of knowledge about deletion ( makes me unable to support this candidate at this time. I can't oppose either though, because this candidate does great work in the featured topic area, and is clearly a helpful user. I would certainly support in the future with more mainspace contributions, and I could even be convinced in this RfA if I see enough positives later. StringTheory11 (t • c) 15:57, 4 October 2014 (UTC)