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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

About the lengths of each song

I just bought the album, and I've noticed that a lot of the songs lengths are mis printed, like the song "Solitude" is listed as being 8:08 minutes long, but in reality, it's actually on about 5:00 minutes long. The song " Into The Void" is also mis-listed as being 3:08 minutes long, where as it's actually more near 6:00 minutes long. Also, the other osngs are mis=labled by around 3 to 5 seconds. So, I guess my point is that we shuld robably add this information into them ain article some how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.35.153.232 (talk) 01:02, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Gold status

Acording to the reissued release of Master of Reality the album achieved Gold status on advance orders alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.217.9 (talk) 00:22, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Doom metal

This article talks of Master of Reality's influence on doom metal but what references I can find all point to Sabbath's debut album being the primary influence, particularly this article chronicles_of_chaos unles someone can produce documention of this album's influence I will move the claim to Black Sabbath (album). J04n (talk) 01:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

"After Forever" lyrics

The original Master of Reality album credits all songs to the 4 band members except "Embro", "Orchid", and "After Forever" which are credited only to Iommi. The text of this article made mention to Iommi's lyrics to "After Forever" and someone changed it to Butler's lyrics. I assumed this was a good faith error as Butler was the primary lyricist for the band during this era and reverted it back to Iommi. It was then reverted back to Butler citing the liner notes to Black Box (BTW I converted the reference to the proper format). I don't have Black Box and can't find the liner notes on-line. Can anyone else verify this? J04n(talk page) 11:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

• Crediting Iommi as sole composer on "After Forever" was done in error. Only "Embryo" and "Orchid" should have been credited to him alone. This has subsequently been corrected on later releases, such as Rhino's Black Box and Sanctuary's Deluxe Remaster, which restores all four members' credits. 98.116.201.174 (talk) 01:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

In the liner notes of the 2004 Sanctuary records reissue of Master of Reality, Hugh Gilmour doesn’t interpret the lyrics of “After Forever” as Christian but as a constructive critique on theological beliefs.
Furthermore, following Steve Huey of the All Music Guide, I think that the lyrics of “After Forever”, rather than being convincingly Christian, philosophize about death and the afterlife in the mood of “a horror movie with a clear moral message like, for example, The Exorcist”.--Rivet138 (talk) 23:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

A separate page for "After Forever"

The "After Forever" link redirects to Master of Reality. Can I create a separate page for it? It has been covered by a few notable artists and it was one of the earliest showings of Christian metal. Rockgenre (talk) 02:27, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

It had its own page before which was deleted. It was nominated for Afd with a couple of other songs which I thought was unfair. Here is the discussion Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Killing Yourself to Live. J04n(talk page) 10:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

While looking at that old discussion I realized that most of the votes were from "Libs" puppets. It's a real shame that it was deleted when it had a lot to do with one voter. Rockgenre (talk) 00:28, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

You're right. If you look both Lykantrop and I !voted to keep it and merge the other two to the parent albums; DreamFocus and hexaChord !voted to keep all three. With four of the delete !votes coming from indefinitely blocked puppets I see no reason why it couldn't be brought back. I actually added a bunch to After Forever (song) just before it was deleted if my memory serves me right; we should be able to get access to the deleted page to restart it. Do you want to bring this up to an admin or shall I? The closing admin is still active so it should be brought up to him. J04n(talk page) 01:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I also voted to merge that song stub. If you think that AfD was invalid, you could probably take it to Misplaced Pages:Deletion review, but I would say it was a good decision unlikely to be overturned. Incidentally, while WP:MRD never really took off, this merge was agreed unanimously in that forum. / edg ☺ ☭ 01:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Edgarde; your points are valid and I agree with you with each of the songs except "After Forever", I'm simply going to ask the closing admin if he would have reached the same conclusion without those four !votes, if he would have I'll drop it. I don't think DRV is necessary. J04n(talk page) 05:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any reason not to add that information to this article, provided you can provide sources. In the unlikely circumstance that there exists enough verifiable, encyclopedic information to merit a separate article on just this song, it can be spun off as needed. However, a strong album article beats 8 song stubs. / edg ☺ ☭ 01:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I see no reason why the very notable song should not have its very own page. J04n if you would be so kind as to contact the admin that would be great. And on another note, recently the block on Mr. Libs has ended. Rockgenre (talk) 01:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Lord of this World

Suggesting that "Lord of this World" has Christian lyrics like "After Forever" is misleading. I mean, you could also mock satanists from an atheist point of view. --Rivet138 (talk) 19:18, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Merged duplicated reference

This reference appeared twice in the article, once in the infobox and once in the lede:

1. ^ Taylor 2006, pg. 199, "Some say that Master of Reality was the first stoner rock album."

So I merged the two occurences and name the reference "Taylor". Nite-Sirk (talk) 20:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

References

This article requires more references. Anybody know where they can verify the information?--Spiralarchitect8 10:31, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if I'd necessarily agree with that; this article contains almost 30 citations, so it's difficult to say that it's poorly or inadequately sourced. Feel free to add additional sources if you feel it will improve the article. ChakaKong 17:39, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Dubious removal

Robert Christgau's criticism of the band in his review of the album, which was added by me on 22 October 2012, was removed by Harmelodix, who claimed it is "off-topic and POV". His bold edit was reverted by me twice, he can now discuss it here (WP:BRD). Dan56 (talk) 01:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

This isn't the place for Christgau's opinion about the band. This is an article about the album. Harmelodix (talk) 01:32, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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