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Get Access to My Deleted Page

I was wondering if I can get access or the text from my deleted/removed page for Quaker Chemical Corporation that was deleted because of copyright issues. I am the content owner and web manager for Quaker and we want to have this text to pur into Word and restructure it before resubmitting.Quakerchem (talk) 20:51, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

If you work for this company it is strongly advised you don't try and edit/create its Misplaced Pages article. Misplaced Pages strives to have a neutral-point-of-view on all things and you have a conflict of interest in this matter. --LukeSurl 21:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I add the pictures

so every Misplaced Pages page has a short summary box to the right. How do I insert an image into it? Like the first one was something like: |image= How do I insert the photos into it? TheQ Editor (talk) 20:46, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I change the email address that I registered with Misplaced Pages?

I'm a newbie, just registered in December 2013. Already my email address has changed, and I can't figure out how to register the change with Misplaced Pages. (I have no trouble logging into Misplaced Pages.) Kodai94 (talk) 19:55, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Kodai94, welcome to the Teahouse. You can change email and many other things at Special:Preferences. Click "Preferences" at top of any page to get there. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:05, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

The | symbol is not making a hyper link to the article

I have added something to the Murder of Carol Jenkins on the martinsville Indiana page, but the | I inserted are not making hyper links to the articles, but are appearing as plain text. I would also like to insert later on links to Hate Crimes and also Sundown towns if I can make this work. Apriv40dj (talk) 19:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Apriv40dj. Wikilinks are made with double square brackets like ] to produce Investigation Discovery. There is also something called a piped link with the pipe character '|'. See more at Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:01, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok I will try to fix that now. Apriv40dj (talk) 20:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Stub Tab

Is it OK for my articles to be getting the "stub" tag? I'm working on a bunch of articles in phases, I'm in phase one now, and I'm getting a lot of this "stubbing". KgLiberty (talk) 18:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's normal for an article that is short. It's not a problem, but if you want to work on an article in peace, you can work on a draft at Draft:Replace_with_your_article_title and then move it to the main body of the encylopedia when you're ready. --LukeSurl 19:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

trouble w/ procedures... asking for deletion on Commons

User:Neurofreak is trying to get some imagefiles they uploaded deleted from Commons.

At my suggestion on IRC, they created this request:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/Commons:Deletion_requests/2014/03

However, now that I look closer, that seems wrong.  :-)   Can somebody give us advice on how to get those imagefiles (in the list at the link) marked for deletion by a Commons admin? Danke. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:21, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Here is the link: https://commons.wikimedia.org/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Neurofreak 18:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurofreak (talk • contribs)

This seems to be all OK to me. --LukeSurl 18:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey LukeSurl, thanks for the answer... so will Neuro's stuff get seen, when an admin happens along? They aren't showing up in the templates on this page, https://commons.wikimedia.org/Commons:Deletion_requests/2014/02 , which only goes through the 21st of February. Prolly the admins on Commons are just backlogged? 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion_requests/2014/02/28 is the page you're interested in, and it does show up. The request should end up being processed in the normal way. --LukeSurl 19:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Finishing an article

Hello, I just started here and was trying to start up a brand new article here > https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Doo_Doo_The_International_Clown I was wondering if feedback was possible as well as instructions on how to fix, manage, and finish constructing my article for creation! Please let me know :)Wwts19 (talk) 18:08, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello @Wwts19: Welcome to the Teahouse. There are few problems and I would mention them one by one with solution.

• Firstly, The submission doesn't seem to be written in compliance with Misplaced Pages neutral point of view and it reads like an advertisement. Terms like, provides, offers, rise in popularity, numerous awards, etc are subjected to scrutiny and are considered peacock terms within Misplaced Pages meant to promote the subject. Please re-write them to be in accordance with "neutral point of view".

• The notability of subject of the submission could not be established using sources listed there under "References" section. Please see, "Misplaced Pages notability guideline for Entertainers" and make changes accordingly.

• Third and the last one, The submission is improperly sourced. Please cite your sources in the body of the article. Citations help to identify the reliable sources on which an article is based. See, "Referencing for beginners"for guideline.

Fix these three issues, I do not see a reason thereafter for not inclusion of the subject within Misplaced Pages. Good luck! Anupmehra -Let's talk! 18:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to the Teahouse! Since this is an article about a living person, Misplaced Pages requires inline citations for information, not just a list of sources at the end. (Inline citations usually take the form of footnotes, like this:) You can learn how to add these with the introduction to referencing or referencing for beginners.

You might also want to check out the external link guideline. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 18:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello @Anon126:. Thank you very much for your time and the help! Regarding sources, I am unable to find any on the internet aside from newspaper articles and videos from a couple years ago. What do you think I should do? Thank you for your time!

Referencing

Hi There -- I'm new around here and would like to get some feedback about my first article, https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Hans_Bauer_%28writer%29. The article is about the original creator of the film franchise Anaconda (also the lead writer on a number of other films with stars such as Richard Gere and Jim Caviezel) and was rejected for referencing and notability. I think the notability should the fit the criteria of creative professionals "The person has created... a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work... that has been the subject of... a feature-length film..." I provided in-line citations and referencing to newspaper articles, as well as external links to the Internet Movie Database, which is used as a reference in virtual all film industry articles on Misplaced Pages. Also I noticed that the secondary writers on the original Anaconda film -- the writing team of Jim Cash and Jack Epps -- each have articles with no in-line citations, no referencing, and each have only one external link, to IMDb. Also, I have helped with editing articles on people who are far less notable and with questionable referencing. So I'm a little a confused about the varying standards and could use some advice. thanks!Zocalo361 (talk) 17:53, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Scholar and Also Participant

Starting in the early 1980s I participated in a series of collaborative performances and very early online literary experiments with a group called Invisible Seattle. I wrote an academic book about Invisible Seattle that was published by Unversity Presses of New England in the '90s. Am I allowed to write the "Invisible Seattle" Misplaced Pages page given that I am a both a scholar and a participant? Rob Wittig (talk) 17:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello @Rob Wittig: Welcome to the Teahouse. Yeah, you can write about the "Invisible Seattle". Please check the subject against Misplaced Pages notability guideline for books. You are requested to read our Conflict of interest guideline and Plain and simple conflict of interest guide as you are a connected contributor. The article must be written in accordance with neutral point of view. Please note that failing notability might result in decline/deletion of the article. See, Your first article and How to write a better article for start-up. Optionally, You can also place a request for the subject to be created by willing Misplaced Pages editors at Misplaced Pages:Requested articles. Regards, Anupmehra -Let's talk! 18:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! This is very helpful! Rob Wittig (talk) 18:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Carol Jenkins someone should start a page about her

I saw a documentary about sundown towns and there was a girl named Carol Jenkins who was killed wrongly as she meant no harm and she was only 21. The show was called the injustice files. I then looked her up and noticed she needs a wikipedia page because she is part of history and important.

I think you can watch the whole show here

http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/injustice-files

and if some editor would like, they can find out a lot of info about her and her family is interviewed and they still want answers, so I think a page would help them and also document her life for history. Apriv40dj (talk) 17:32, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

@Apriv40dj: Anyone may create articles about any topic that is notable where that notability is verified in reliable sources. Why not read WP:AFC and start the article yourself? Fiddle Faddle 18:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

I have learning disabilities and am a very poor writer. Apriv40dj (talk) 18:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

@Apriv40dj: Neither of those things should discourage you. There are people who will offer assistance.

Will another editor here point Apriv40dj at a mentoring project, please? Fiddle Faddle 18:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

I would hard also I don't think I have time to write a large article, I could try to start a stub, but that is also hard and I would have to cross reference to sundown towns article and I only watched the show once I did not memorize the show by watching it many times. I would like ideally, if I could email her parents and ask them if they have any objections, but it seems like they wanted her story out there. I just don't want to muff it up. Apriv40dj (talk) 18:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I am sure there must be ambitious people on Misplaced Pages looking for good articles to start writing. Maybe there is a list somewhere of suggested topics? Apriv40dj (talk) 18:51, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I just found she is listed under the name of the town, but she does not have her own page, so when I search her name, it does not come up. https://en.wikipedia.org/Martinsville,_Indiana#Murder_of_Carol_Jenkins Apriv40dj (talk) 18:57, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I am writing up a short summary to add to this entry and I want then to be able to use the tv show as my source and reference. I hope it goes well. If it failed maybe some kind person could fix my mistakes in html, because I think her story needs to be heard. Apriv40dj (talk) 19:05, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I have added the information, if what I wrote is too long, some nice person could start Carol her own page with my information. I placed source two ways so people can be sure to find it. Please check and see if it acceptable. Apriv40dj (talk) 19:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I did not up the reference in correct, I guess this why some has removed my reference. I would like someone to go there install my reference in the proper format. It looks like I am making things up if one has not seen the show. Apriv40dj (talk) 20:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

IP block

How can I ask admin for IP block? Aftab Banoori 10:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftabbanoori (talk • contribs)

Usually if an IP is vandalising repeatedly you would report them to Administrator's intervention against vandalism (AIV). However, if you're referring to the IP that made this edit, then there isn't enough evidence to block them - one (possible) instance of vandalism won't persuade an admin to issue sanctions. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Image upload struggling

Can I uploaded the image from http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/721171.html even though it is not a free image, but it describes some inmportant things. So can I upload it as non-free? Can I also upload some images from facebook? Please answer below by mentioning me or in my talk page for get me notified. Thanks. Sakib14 (talk) 09:29, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sakib14. The answer I'm afraid is: no, no, and no. Whilst it is possible to use non-free images on Misplaced Pages in certain circumstances, the rules for doing so are extremely restrictive. In this case, I see no way that a fair-use case could be made for the image in question. Facebook images are also unlikely to meet the criteria for non-free use. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

new article deleted for lack of content

I recently wrote an article about feminists in the 1970s and their accomplishments. The article was immediately deleted for "lack of context". Okay, but how do I access my article (and all of the information + citations) I've already entered to edit the article and add the requested context? SDFeminist2.0 (talk) 05:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello SDFeminist2.0 and welcome to the Teahouse. When I review your edit history, it appears that Anne Ewing is the only article you've edited, and that article hasn't been deleted. Were you possibly editing the deleted article with a different account? If so, please give us the deleted article's name, and we may be able to offer some advice. Cullen Let's discuss it 06:40, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi SDFeminist2.0. If you're referring to Removing Sexism and Racism from Primary School Readers in the United States (the only article you've written which was deleted), I see that Cindamuse has already restored it to your userspace; it can now be found at User:SDFeminist2.0/Removing Sexism and Racism from Primary School Readers in the United States. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

I need help renaming a page

Im was editing a page until I accidentally renamed it, and it got stuck like that. Can someone help rename it back ! Gotenks96 (talk) 04:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Gotenks96. Your edit history shows that the only thing you've worked on, other than this question is Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Young Stunna, which hasn't been renamed. Were you editing with another account? Cullen Let's discuss it 04:43, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Is page locked for editing?

My father's page Carmelo Zito. I wanted to fix a minor spelling error changing a typo from the letter n to the letter do, and I posted it and the reason, but it won't change. Over on the side is box with the name of his birth place should be oppido mamertina not oppino mamertina. I am hoping to make some future additions and I have more photos I can add if they are allowed. I have a book coming to me from amazon de Germany as I could not get this book before, so when it comes I will be able to site page numbers for various achievements. Can someone make this change in my page for me? I know I made a mistake in the photo earlier on, but I was not sure which link was correct to use. Apriv40dj (talk) 01:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello. You seem to have successfully made the change . If this is not appearing for you, it is probably a caching issue in your browser. See Misplaced Pages:Bypass your cache for information on how to avert this. --LukeSurl 01:45, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse! What you did was you modified the persondata for the page, and not the infobox. The persondata is a behind-the-scenes categorization tool that otherwise doesn't affect the look of the page at all. To get it to change in the infobox, as it is called, edit the field for "birth_place" in the {{infobox person}} template. When you hit the "edit" button, the template should be the first thing you see since it is at the top of the page. Hope this helps! --Mz7 (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing this for me. I learned what I did wrong. I thought that the side box was like the page properties instead of the text box. Apriv40dj (talk) 03:44, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

General question about Wikipolicies, etc.

Hi,

Do the policies and MOS for the English version of Misplaced Pages also apply, in principle, to other non-English versions of Misplaced Pages? I understand that there may be exceptions on specific issues due to differences between each language's grammar and usage, but the basic rules the same for all, right?

More specifically, would something like WP:MOSLINK also apply to all non-English language Wikipedias?

Thanks in advance - Marchjuly (talk) 01:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Different language versions of Misplaced Pages are essentially independent "self-governing" entities. Some policies may be similar, others dramatically different - its all a case-by-case basis. --LukeSurl 01:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks - Marchjuly (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Is This List List-Worthy?

Under book requests,(https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Arts_and_entertainment/Literature/Books) somebody has asked to do a list of Harry Potter Characters with Alliterative Names. Is that worthy of an article or is it too specific? The Word Simplicity (talk) 23:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Common sense says this is way too specific (Misplaced Pages:Listcruft). --LukeSurl 00:05, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

And such a list has already been unanimously deleted at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of alliterative phrases in Harry Potter. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:17, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

how best to cite meta-data in Wikimedia Commons?

I have used information from the meta-data of https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Councilchamberskingstreet.jpg in the Misplaced Pages article Shire of Caboolture. Is there a standard way to cite Commons entries in Misplaced Pages? I have done a standard web citation but it looks pretty awful, surely the title can't be "File:Councilchamberskingstreet.jpg" (ugh). Is there a better way? (Note, I cannot find the same information elsewhere, so it is a case of "cite it where I saw it"). Thanks Kerry (talk) 22:20, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey Kerry. There are a bunch of issues here. First, and I know here it was unintentional, but please see Misplaced Pages:Copying within Misplaced Pages#Copying from other Wikimedia Projects. In short, you must provide copyright attribution if you are going to copy text from somewhere else on Misplaced Pages, from another Wikimedia project, or from any freely-licensed source. The copy and paste of the image description text without any attributing and linking edit summary and without quotation marks was both technical copyright infringement and plagiarism (again, the context makes it clear this was unintentional; just keep it in mind from now on). You can go back and make a dummy edit to provide the missing copyright attribution.

As for citing a Commons image, you might look to here for an example. However, what you'll see is that the reliable source there is the image itself (a page from the 1910 U.S. Census). An image can be a reliable source. But the content from an image description page is not. Misplaced Pages is a wiki, and is not itself a reliable source. The same is true of the Commons. It's user generated content. See Misplaced Pages:Verifiability#Sources that are usually not reliable. What is needed here is a reliable secondary source instead. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

As I said, it is the only source information I can find or I would have cited something else. Kerry (talk) 23:19, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Then it needs to come out. How do you know the information is at all correct? When the fount of your information is "someone said it", which is all that source amounts to, that is no basis for an addition to an article. Bad information is far worse than no information. If it turns out it was actually correct, that would not resuscitate the source after the fact; it would not be a "look, see it was okay" moment, because this is institutional. We must follow the dictates of verifiability because the next similar instance will turn out to be wrong, and the damage will be done. Meanwhile, at least with no source we would have an unverified statement, rather than one masquerading as verified, with a footnote to a bad source. But you have stated you've looked, so verifiability has been tested and failed.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

"Requested Article for profit companies"

Hi, I had requested for an article on the "Requested Article for profit companies" page few months ago. No response till now about the article on Speridian Technologies, though I had provided all the references and external links. Could someone please help?

Dakshina.maratt (talk) 21:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is a wholly volunteer project. No-one has any compulsion to create requested articles. There are thousands, if not millions, of tasks on Misplaced Pages that need doing (see Misplaced Pages:Backlog), and only a limited number of editors around to do them. --LukeSurl 00:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Are you independent of the company, see WP:COI? Does the company meet the requirements for Notability, see WP:CORP??? If both answers are Yes, then create it yourself. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

how to use wikipedia

why am i get so confused on wikipedia. there is sandbox there is talk there is read create all jumbled up plz help me use this site more efficiently. I want to know if someone can help me on my articles. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Demi_lion/sandbox 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Demi_lion/Jpred

what is the difference between there location and functions both are my articles right but created in different way or location. Demi lion (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Demi lion. Misplaced Pages is big and complicated, and it takes a while to get used to all the different features in it. There is no practical difference between the two locations: they are both subpages of your user page. You can have as many of these as you like, and it is conventional to call the first one you use "sandbox", though actually it would probably be more useful always to use the title that the article will eventually have as the subpagename (as you have for User:Demi lion/Jpred). Both your articles suffer from a lack of independent reliable sources. An article on Jpred might have a few references to Dundee U website, for uncontroversial factual data, and may certainly have a link to it in its "External References" section; but most of the information in the article must come from articles, books etc published by reliable publishers unconnected with the software or its developers: what other people have written about it. If these sources do not exist, then the subject is by definition not notable (in Misplaced Pages's special sense) and no article on it will be accepted, however it is written. --ColinFine (talk) 22:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, ColinFine. thank you for your help but it would have been better if i got a talkback message from you for this discussion.

i have made some edits to both of my articles will add refs

how do i add title to my sandbox article i.e. psipred. and if there is no difference between both subpages why is that they exist as separate. i mean the later one could serve the purpose.

i noticed that if i create articles draft in sandbox i can get to it using sandbox but that is not the case with later one i have to save link to get to it afterwards or am i doing something wrong. Demi lion (talk) 13:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

If you haven't saved a link, you can find pages which you have edited by using the "Contributions" link at the top of any page. In your case this will take you to Special:Contributions/Demi lion. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:56, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

If you want to move User:Demi lion/sandbox to User:Demi lion/psipred, the process is at WP:move. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Would anyone like to accept the correction of a spelling error?

I am not interested in editing on Misplaced Pages, but I do appreciate the program. It's quite amazing. If someone would like to correct the spelling of Helgoland, in the North Sea, it would help. It is currently misspelled as "Heligoland." The native German speaker sitting beside me would like to see it put right. The error is being assumed to be the correct spelling, and now appears on YouTube listings, etc. But this has to be the source. So there you are. Located in a description of German U-Boot (boat) bases in the North Sea.

Thank you. M. Schulzke 72.47.86.95 (talk) 20:34, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello M. Schulzke. Heligoland is the accepted English language spelling, though "Helgoland" is the German spelling. As this is the English Misplaced Pages, we prefer the first spelling, though I'm sure that German Misplaced Pages uses the second spelling. Cullen Let's discuss it 20:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi, welcome to the Teahouse. This is the English Misplaced Pages so we generally use English spelling. We also say Germany and not Deutschland. The English name is Heligoland but our article mentions the German spelling in the opening line. The German Misplaced Pages uses German spelling and has their article at de:Helgoland, but they mention the English spelling in both the opening line and at de:Heligoland. The English Misplaced Pages has a redirect from Helgoland to Heligoland so the article is easy to find for people using the German spelling. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

using a photo

I need some help, with uploading a file to the wiki, I already loaded it to creative commons. It will not show up as a photo, but just a file name in red. My father Carmelo zito, see his page, his photo.Apriv40dj (talk) 19:14, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

@Apriv40dj: Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. There was an typo in the file name, which I've fixed. The image should display now. On another note, it's important that that the picture was either 1)taken by you, 2)published before 1923, or 3)whoever did take it died over 70 years ago. Some leeway to this rule is provided to deceased people, but the image would have to be moved from Commons to Misplaced Pages in that case. Happy editing. --Jakob (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

This is my family photo was taken over 70 years ago. My father Carmelo Zito died in 1980. I did not steal this from the web. This photo does not exist online until I am adding it now. I have other photos, but I was not sure how many could be allowed in the entry. This one is the best basic sort of profile photo I could find. Apriv40dj (talk) 20:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Page creation of small lake

Hi all, I am currently creating a article for a lake a grew up on as a project for one of my classes and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for trying to find reliable references, pictures and what type of information to include. Any suggestions would be much appreciated, thanks! Krturchi (talk) 18:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Line moved here from another section of the page by ColinFine (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2014 (UTC):

The article is called lake shenorock, still working on it. Krturchi (talk) 22:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. The best advice I can give is to look at articles that exist for similar lakes and see what information we have on those. One of the best articles we have on a lake is our article about Ganoga Lake in Pennsylvania. --LukeSurl 00:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Reflective reviews

In Mullum Malarum, the section " reflective reviews" contains modern day reviews of the 1978 film. Is that the best title the section have, or is it incorrect? Is there any better title for the section, if any? Kailash29792 (talk) 17:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

If you can think of a better title for the section, then go ahead and rename it. I don't think there's any manual of style or policy issues here. --LukeSurl 12:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

In fact, the James Bond articles The Man With The Golden Gun, For Your Eyes Only (film) and Licence to Kill have sections named "Reflective reviews" which seem to contain modern reviews of those films. Taking inspiration from them good articles, I named this section in Mullum Malarum as such. In that case, I think I think my doubts have been cleared. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Search images of Misplaced Pages, not Commons

I want to do this search to find image copyvios as a regular check-up. But all Commons images are getting included here. I want list of only Misplaced Pages images. Tito☸Dutta 07:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey Titodutta. You can use Google. Limit your results to Misplaced Pages by using site:en.wikipedia.org; limit your results to files by typing intitle:file. For example, this search. Of course, if you only want files that contain the exact phrase "Bengali actress", put that in quotes. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:06, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

• It'll be excellent if we have an option in Misplaced Pages. Tito☸Dutta 15:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

User feedback boxes

I've noticed that some articles have user feedback boxes on them. I read the page about them but it was sort of unclear: do authors of article put them on the articles or is that something administrators do? I didn't see any clear instruction as to how to put them on articles, so I wasn't sure. Thanks! Bali88 (talk) 02:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the question - I learned something! It is an experiment applied to some articles. There is an extensive conversation at WP:RFC/AF about it. See the short and longer summary at the top right of that page. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 04:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!Bali88 (talk) 04:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I think anyone can add them, I certinately add them when I make decent articles to see what IPs and users think could be included. Thanks, Matty.007 17:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Adding categories

When creating a new article, is the originating editor supposed to add categories to the article or are these added 'automatically' in some way? Thanks. Melbourne3163 (talk) 02:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey Melbourne3163. They are not added automatically so whoever happens upon an uncategorized or poorly categorized page should help out by adding appropriate categories, be that the "originating editor" or anyone else. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for your quick and helpful reply. Cheers. Melbourne3163 (talk) 03:03, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Anytime.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Raising a complaint about a user talk page page hosting a personal attack

Hi. Someone (an IP hopper) has posted a personal attack about me on another user's Talk page. This includes my name in the thread heading. I have twice politely asked the Talk page owner to remove this thread. They have refused. What is the next appropriate action please.__DrChrissy (talk) 23:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

If you are concerned about private information being revealed, you should contact the oversight team. Otherwise, you may remove the attack yourself. (No one "owns" any page on Misplaced Pages.) If that fails (or it is restored), you can bring it up at the administrator's noticeboard for incidents. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 00:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for this. It is not that revealing personal information is the problem. The IP hopper has made numerous accusations against me about editing, article ownership, lying, forming "gangs", personal research....etc. these are all unfounded - as I believe other editors would confirm. I suspect WP:ANI may be the way to go. Thank you for your help.__DrChrissy (talk) 00:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I have made two comments on the user's talk page encouraging them to remove these attacks, DrChrissy. I regret that you are being treated this badly. Cullen Let's discuss it 07:33, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Shortcuts

Is a regular user making a shortcut page (the WP:XXX type) okay? I honestly want a WP:UCR (Unexplained content removal) and have it link to WP:RMV for edit summaries. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi EvergreenFir! Yes, absolutely (and as the page's direct initials, it seems to me to be a perfect shortcut). While it is good to be cautious and asking experienced users for advice is good and welcome, we are all "regular editors". There are some things administrators can do because of the extra tools they are given, but you need to put out of your mind that for most things on Misplaced Pages there are any restraints or thresholds one must meet, any litmus test that must be passed or permission required before acting. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

@Fuhghettaboutit: Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) 03:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

A question for Teahouse techies

Hi, in Twinkle WikiLove, when I go to give something, on the same pop out, I have a weird strip with three stars on, with the heading on the left 'Badges'. Is there some error? Thanks, Matty.007 19:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

You may have installed a script that modified WikiLove to allow it to give out Teahouse Badges. "Teahouse Badges" may be awarded to any Teahouse host or guest for great answers, questions, ideas, etc. Think of it like a barnstar, except for Teahouse-related awesomeness. For some reason, the strip is really big on my computer; it may be a bug with the script. Hope this helps. Mz7 (talk) 21:32, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I have installed the script, what I was asking about is most definitely a bug. There is a giant strip going diagonally from left to right, with three stars on, which is, I presume, what you are seeing. Thanks, Matty.007 17:26, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

It's probably one for Technical 13. Thanks, Matty.007 21:23, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

• Hello Matty.007 and welcome to the Teahouse! What you have done is copied the Teahouse WikiLove script to your common.js instead of importing the maintained script. Due to this, you are now victim to a recent change to the WikiLove extension. To fix this, you will need to replace ALL of the follow code:

var thisPageNamespace = mw.config.get( 'wgNamespaceNumber' );
if ( thisPageNamespace == 2 || thisPageNamespace == 3 ) {
mw.loader.using( 'ext.wikiLove.defaultOptions', function() {
$.wikiLoveOptions.types.badges= {
  name: 'Badges', // name of the type (appears in the types menu)
  subtypes: {
  'Teahouse Welcome badge': {
      fields: , // fields to ask for in form
      option: 'Teahouse Welcome Badge', // option listed in the select list
      descr: 'Created a Teahouse profile', // description
      header: 'Congrats... You created your Teahouse profile!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
      text:  '{{Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Badge/Welcome|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>' , // custom text
    },
  'Teahouse great question badge': {
      fields: , // fields to ask for in form
      option: 'Teahouse Great Question', // option listed in the select list
      descr: 'For asking a great Teahouse question', // description
      header: 'Congrats... You asked an awesome question in the Teahouse!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
      text:   '{{Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Badge/Question|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
    },
  'Teahouse great answer badge': {
      fields: , // fields to ask for in form
      option: 'Teahouse Great Answer', // option listed in the select list
      descr: 'For giving a great Teahouse answer', // description
      header: 'Congrats... You gave an awesome answer in the Teahouse!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
      text:   '{{Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Badge/Answer|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
    },
  'Teahouse maître d badge': {
      fields: , // fields to ask for in form
      option: 'Teahouse Maître d', // option listed in the select list
      descr: 'For hosting as  maître d in the Teahouse', // description
      header: 'Congrats... You were an awesome Teahouse maître d!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
      text:   '{{Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Badge/Maitre d%27|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
    },
  'Teahouse cup and saucer badge': {
      fields: , // fields to ask for in form
      option: 'Teahouse Cup and Saucer', // option listed in the select list
      descr: 'For helping keep Teahouse civil, warm, and welcoming for everyone', // description
      header: 'Congrats... You helped keep Teahouse an awesome, welcoming, safe, and helpful place!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
      text:   '{{Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Badge/Saucer|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
    },
'Teahouse easter egg badge': {
      fields: , // fields to ask for in form
      option: 'Teahouse Easter Egg', // option listed in the select list
      descr: 'For sharing ideas that help make Teahouse better', // description
      header: 'Congrats... Your creative suggestion made Teahouse even better!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
      text:   '{{Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Badge/Easter egg|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
    },
'Teahouse genie badge': {
      fields: , // fields to ask for in form
      option: 'Teahouse Genie', // option listed in the select list
      descr: 'For solving issues on the Teahouse Wishlist', // description
      header: 'Congrats... You fixed the Teahouse just where it needed to be fixed!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
      text:   '{{Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Badge/Genie|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
    },
'Teahouse host badge': {
      fields: , // fields to ask for in form
      option: 'Teahouse Host', // option listed in the select list
      descr: 'For creating a host profile', // description
      header: 'Congrats... You have joined a team of awesome helpers!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
      text:   '{{Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Badge/Host|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
    },
 },
  icon: 'http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Rank_insignia_of_generale_di_divisione_con_funzioni_superiori_of_the_Alpini.svg'
 };
} );
}

With the following code:

importScript( 'User:Ocaasi/WikiLoveinstallscript.js' );//]

OR the following code:

importScript( 'User:Technical 13/Scripts/Teahouse WikiLove.js' );//]

BUT certainly not BOTH.  ;) — {{U|Technical 13}} 22:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

• Also, Mz7, I've looked into your common.js as well. You are correctly importing the script. Ocaasi just fixed the script, and you likely just need to WP:BYPASS to fix the size of the icon for you.— {{U|Technical 13}} 22:13, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks! Mz7 (talk) 01:40, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

OK, thank you very much to Mz7 and Technical 13. Thanks, Matty.007 18:41, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

how can I increase the default font size to read articles?

how can I increase the default font size to read articles? Judycrt (talk) 18:35, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

It depends which browser you are using, but most browsers use "Control +" or "Control and scroll forwards on your mouse wheel" (Control + 0 to return to 100%) - Arjayay (talk) 18:44, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Need help with deleted page...

2 days ago I read tutorials and created an account. I added a page about a living renowed photographer. I think I made the mistake of putting his name as the user...but the artist is not the creator of this page...today I receive an email saying that the page was tagged and deleted for looking like advertisement...after viewing other artists pages for guidandce, all I did was put in his curriculum vitae which has a short biography and after his career exhibits in galleries and museums.... I wanted to change the user name and sent a request...if I look up his name on google it shows that his page has been deleted...trying to learn about using Misplaced Pages, I took the adventure tour...and that is also appearing when I google his name...so...it's a mess. Can someone please offer help with this? Thanks so much. (Robert Weingarten 17:40, 26 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert I. Weingarten (talk • contribs)

@Robert I. Weingarten: It's not unusual to make errors at the start, so be patient, especially with yourself. Misplaced Pages expects every editor to be an expert even when they are new, and we have all made mistakes. The best editors make the biggest mistakes at the start .

The best advice is to learn your trade before creating an article. We do this by editing other articles until we get the trick to it. However, if you want to start creating a brand new article, let me suggest that you use the Article Creation Wizard. Have a look at WP:AFC.

The article that was deleted may well have looked like an advert. Misplaced Pages is not LinkedIn and is not the place to post a CV. What a biographical article needs is for the person to be notable, and to have that notability verified in reliable sources. A list of unreferenced achievements will not achieve that.

If the gentleman is notable then he will have received significant coverage in national press. That style of verification is what is required here. Please read something like User:Timtrent/A good article which will set you on the right road.

I am not competent to answer your username question. Fiddle Faddle 18:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

You created an article about Robert Weingarten on your user page, which is why it was deleted. Theroadislong (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your response!!! I will go slower and learn more about...there's just so much to learn and I thought I could make a page about this artist. This artist is notable and has received significant coverage in national press...I guess I need to learn how to write it and place it in a different way...I was starting to add links that verifyed his achievements...again thank you for your advise and if you know how I can deleted and vanish all information on this account and start fresh...Please let me know!!!!

Best, Robert Weingarten 20:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert I. Weingarten (talk • contribs)

Writing an autobiography is really not encouraged on Misplaced Pages, if you are notable someone will write an article eventually. Theroadislong (talk) 20:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

(e/c) @Robert I. Weingarten: Let me see if I can clear up a few issues. I take it from what you wrote above that you are not Robert I. Weingarten, but in error, created your account using the name of the article you wished to create. That's not an insurmountable problem but it will lead to anyone who reviews your edits thinking you are creating an autobiography (which is highly discouraged; see Misplaced Pages:Autobiography and Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest) and is also unintentionally deceptive and disallowed (see Misplaced Pages:Username policy#Misleading usernames). So, on that issue, I recommend abandoning the account and simply starting over signing up with a username personal to you.

Second, and as noted above, a CV is not appropriate as a Misplaced Pages article and also raises a copyright concern. Though you didn't state whether you created the CV, the way you talked about it makes me think you copied and pasted Robert Weingarten's CV that he had created and that you had access to. This would be a blatant copyright violation, unless that CV was explicitly released into the public domain or under a free copyright license compatible with our licenses (in which event, using it as you did would still be plagiarism). It would thus have been deleted on that ground, apart from the promotional basis it was actually deleted under. You can use previously published material as a source of information by citing to it (though a CV is not the type of reference we seek—we want reliable, secondary sources that are entirely independent of the subject being written about) but you must write material here in your own words. There is one exception: you can use short quotations under the doctrine of fair use, but they must be marked as being the writing of another by the use of quotation marks, and all such quotations are required to be cited to the original source of the content using an inline citation.

So, to sum up, you can't continue using this account unless you are Robert Weingarten, and if you want to write an article about him under another account name, you must write that in a non-promotional manner, not copying any previously published material and that article should cite to reliable independent sources to show his notability and verify the content. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:58, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

PDFs as validification for References

In addition to providing links to Websites and Misplaced Pages Enclyclopedia to support information in my article, I have included six links to PDFs that verifies the source of specific information. Will this present a problem with the approval process?Musicalind (talk) 17:39, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Musicalind and welcome to The Teahouse. Are you saying the PDFs are what Misplaced Pages considers reliable sources, such as magazine articles or newspaper articles or books, and they just happen to be in that form? I'm not really familiar with the approval process but if that's the case it should be all right. On the other hand, if they're not the type of sources Misplaced Pages allows, that could be a problem.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what format a source is in (it can even be offline!) so long as it is reliable, such as from a reputable news or scholarly organization. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:54, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: I believe the "approval process" to which Musicalind is referring is articles for creation. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate that. I knew it, but I've never familiarized myself with how that works. I just saw a question that had not been answered and I knew part of the answer but wasn't sure if I was leaving something out.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Musicalind. Looking at the draft Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Greg McKenzie, Jazz Pianist and Composer, I think you are referring to a number of references to onedrive. This appear to be scans that you (or somebody) has uploaded. The scans are almost certainly copyright violations, and it is against Misplaced Pages policy to link to such; so I have removed the links from your draft article. However, there is no requirement that a reference be online, just that it is to a reliable published source, and there is enough information that a reader could if they wished obtain the reference (eg through a public library). So the references are find without the links.

Some of your other sources appear to me to be dubious (we don't normally link to a sales site such as theshowstore, or to a google translate link - references in other languages are acceptable as they stand) but I haven't removed them because because they are not in themselves copyright violations. Also note that when the article is accepted and moved to main space, the title will be simply Greg McKenzie: we only put extra information in the title to distinguish between different subjects with the same name. --ColinFine (talk) 00:04, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Can't add an existing Catagory to article

When I try to add a category that already exists in Wiki (ie: "Private Community")to an article, the category name "Private Community" appears in red - not blue, and when I click on those red words it connects me to another Wiki page that states:

Category:Private community Misplaced Pages does not have a category with this exact name.

Yet, if you type "Private Community" in Wiki's Search Box, a category called "Private Community " appears.

Below is how I am trying to add the category "Private community": Category:Private community

Question: What am I doing wrong?

Thank you. Brian A96.54.9.173 (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. There is an article named Private community, but not a category named Category:Private community. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

If you just want to link to the article Private community then write ]. Categories are a different feature. Compare for example the article Community to Category:Community. See more at Help:Link and Help:Category. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I'd forgotten I had an account years ago and have made a second one. What should I do?

I recently created the user Kingswoodu (named after the organization I work for). An editor kindly pointed out that I need to have a user representing myself rather than my organization. When I went to rename the user to my desired username, I discovered that I already had a wikipedia account from years ago (this one). I've now regained access to this account and have started using it again. What should I do about the other account I created? So far, I have gone to the user page for each user and referenced the other user explaining that the organization one will not be used. Thanks! DeanoL (talk) 14:58, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi DeanoL, welcome to the Teahouse. What you've done should be fine. If an admin feels it's important, they might block the Kingswoodu account while leaving the DeanoL account unaffected. But it's not essential. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much! DeanoL (talk) 15:06, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Need Help

I need help in this pictures Abdul_Khaliq_(Fastest_Man_of_Asia).jpg for Template:Non-free use rationale. I wanted know to this what is this. who can i change licence? ‎ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muntazir764 (talk • contribs) 12:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Muntazir, welcome to the Teahouse. If no free image of Abdul Khaliq exists or can be found, Misplaced Pages rules permit the use of a non-free (copyrighted) image of him in the infobox of the article about him. Currently, File:Abdul Khaliq (Fastest Man of Asia).jpg fulfills that role in the infobox of Abdul Khaliq (athlete). The image cannot be used on other articles. If an image can be found that is public domain or can be freely licensed, that free image should replace the existing non-free image. If copyright information can be found about the existing image (for example, details of the copyright holder) then the image details should be updated. Please let us know which aspects of this you need further information on. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:40, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Is it this edit which concerns you? In order to use that image in the article Pakistan, it would need to be licensed as a free image, which it is not. For it to be a free image, the copyright holder of the image would need to license it as a free image, for example by uploading it to Wikimedia Commons . Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I uploaded this picture and because of picture captured by my ancester, i am copyright holder, When i uploaded the picture i did not know about the licence. Know i wanted to make it free to use so that it can be used on diffirente airtical. But the question is how to change the licence?--Muntazir764 (talk) 01:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I eliminate paragraph numbers from solely the third level of the table of contents?

G'day Guys My exceedingly long list needs improved presentation. List of Australian radio broadcast transmission characteristics I have floated the table of contents right, as suggested by Ariconte here, which is great. But the paragraph numbering at the third level takes away from the TOC rather than adding to it, since the section headings (radio station callsigns) are sufficent in themselves. Is there a way to suppress the paragraph numbering at the 3rd level? TIA Samuel.dellit (talk) 12:03, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I have changed the URL in your question to a wikilink to improve the display. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Yep; stick the template {{TOC limit|3}} at the top of the page. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:07, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

If I read the OP correctly, the question was whether the paragraph numbering could be omitted at that level, rather than the TOC entries being omitted altogether. I'm guessing that there isn't an easy way of doing so? --David Biddulph (talk) 12:44, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

My bad, I misunderstood the question. There's no way that I know of to remove the numbering from the standard TOC, and I'm not aware of any custom ones that do that. It might be necessary to write a whole new template; above my pay grade, I'm afraid. You could ask the clever folks at the Village Pump Technical board... Yunshui 雲‍水 12:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks guys for your efforts, I'll take it to the Pump Samuel.dellit (talk) 21:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Writing a new page

Hey there! I'm pretty new to Misplaced Pages and was looking to write a page about Overwolf. Now I will state here that I am biased, but I would like to write as neutral a piece as I can without advertising as I'm not interested in anything save writing the history of the company and software. What would be the best way to do so? I read that I can write it on a subpage and then request editors to help in making it "live" worthy but am unsure as how to do this.

I have indeed gone over guidelines and information such as WP:GNG, WP:CORP, and WP:NSOFT thanks to postdlf (spoke to him first) who had deleted a similar page written 3 years ago (not by me, I have no idea who wrote it) and have ascertained (to the best of my abilities) that the subject matter does indeed fit. I am mainly looking for advice on how to go about this as best and professionally as possible. Thanks for the help!

Raif1989 (talk) 09:42, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Raif1989. First up, you need somewhere to work on your draft; your sandbox, which can be accessed at any time from the menu at the top of each page, is as good a place as any. The best way to start writing such an article is to assemble all the sources you can find which:

• contain extensive coverage of Overwolf
• have no relationship to the subject
• meet the basic criteria of reliability for sources; i.e. published with professional editorial oversight.

Stick links to these in your sandbox page. Once you've done that, summarise what the sources say (not what you know) about the topic, citing the appropriate sources as you go (see this short essay for some help with that). Once you've got a basic treatment of the subject in place, look at other, similar articles to get an idea of how the page should be laid out and formatted. You can then submit the article for review by adding the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page and saving it. Hope that helps, Yunshui 雲‍水 12:15, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! I just have one more question, how can I add a logo to the infobox? I can't find how to upload the picture or add it. Raif1989 (talk) 08:25, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

In general, the company logo can't be added until the page is accepted as an article (i.e. not in your sandbox), unless the company chooses to freely license it, which would not be a good idea. Concentrate on getting the page accepted as an article first. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 09:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

page linked to wrong page

Hi, I am going through one page,its linked to wrong page,how can i delete this and redirect the page. Will Talk2 (talk) 08:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Will Talk2. It's hard to answer definitely because you haven't told us which page or link you are talking about. But I'm guessing that you mean that there is a wikilink in an article which links to another article, but to the wrong article because there are several subjects with the same or similar names.

If that is so, you can correct it by editing the article in which the link appears. You need to find the link between double square brackets, and replace what's between them by the complete title of the page it should link to; then you can make the link look right by putting the name after a pipe character ('|').

Suppose for example, that a page refers to Michael Jackson; but it means a Canadian actor, not the musician. Then you would edit the article (or the section of the article) containing the link) and find where it says ], and replace it by ]. This would still appear as Michael Jackson, but links to the page Michael Jackson (actor). Does this answer your question? --ColinFine (talk) 09:34, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi,Thanks for the prompt reply,I will explain you. Here a village name:kothapalli existed in more than one district. https://en.wikipedia.org/Cherla

in this page there a subtitle:Villages in Cherla Mandal

here a village name:kothapalli,when you click on this, its going to vilage:kothapalli ,but of diffrent district of AndhraPradesh. https://en.wikipedia.org/Kothapalli my sugestion is it will go for new creation, Regards,Will Talk2 (talk) 10:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

@Will Talk2: I've fixed the link so that it no longer targets the wrong article. If an article should come to be written about the Kothapalli near Cherla, it should be at the title Kothapalli, Khammam or similar. Since there are Misplaced Pages articles about several other places of the same name, I'm going to create a disambiguation page as well. Deor (talk) 15:46, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

About my article publish

Thanks for inviting me on Teahouse. :) I just joined wikipedia yesturday.I have written an article about SimGirls,an online flash dating sim. I just wanted to know :- 1)How long will it take my article be visible in public search? 2) How can I attach Pictures to my article? 3) How can I attach references and external web links to my article? (Blackspears (talk) 03:17, 26 February 2014 (UTC)) (Blackspears (talk) 03:17, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

hi i have also joined yesterday and i need to know the answers to the questions aboveHajmam82 (talk) 04:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello to both of you, and welcome to the Teahouse. To answer Blackspears's specific questions:

1. It will not be searchable until it becomes an actual article. Since you are new, you should submit it to articles for creation for review by adding the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article.
2. If these pictures are of the game, then most likely they are copyrighted and not free content. In that case, you will have to wait until it becomes an actual article to add pictures (by policy).
3. There is a tutorial section on this, which should be enough. But if you're up for it, you can get more information:
   • For citing sources:
     • Rntroduction to referencing (a tutorial on the "easy way")
     • Referencing for beginners (more detailed information)
   • For links: Link help

Reply here if you have any more questions! Anon126 (talk - contribs) 04:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

thank you, i have another question, i knew that my account will be confirmed after 4 days and 10 edits, (1)and my article will be searchable after how long from submitting using the code ?

(2)i am really confused on the subject/headline of the article as for now it keeps saying User:username and i do not know where to have my article subject/headline put to be visible for example a name if i am putting a Biography or resume ? please helpHajmam82 (talk) 05:32, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

@Hajmam82: Let me know what name you want and I will move it for you. It will be named User:Hajmam82/Name of the article because it is not a full-fledged article just yet. (Again, you can submit it for review by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top.) Anon126 (talk - contribs) 05:45, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

To answer your question as to how long it might be from submitting your draft until it gets accepted as an article, there are currently about 2400 drafts awaiting review, and it can take several weeks. You can see an indication of the age of the drafts waiting at Category:AfC pending submissions by age. The better the quality of your draft, the more chance there is of it being accepted without too much delay; drafts with problems may be put to one side while readily acceptable ones are published. Naturally, if the draft is rejected and needs to go through one or more further rounds of amendment and review this will delay things for longer. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

A Lengthy Moment

I am all for living in the present and making my moments last, but an article I submitted for review has had a blue tag on it saying it was being reviewed and the results would be posted "shortly" and it has been a month and a half. I am wondering if this is common. I'm not in any hurry... just wondering why this is taking so long. I probably could have written this biography directly into the Misplaced Pages but wanted to be certain all was okay with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Courtland_Hector_Hoppin

Thanks. Kathrynklos (talk) 22:29, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I have accepted the article to mainspace. Sorry for the administrative kerfuffle. --LukeSurl 22:46, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Yay! Thank you so much! Kathrynklos (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Malicious page deletion

Users User:Xoloz and User:JamKaftan have speedily deleted my new page QuizClash claiming it has a "promotional tone". This is relatively unlikely as I don't like the app, I just stated that it is "sensationally successful" as more than 10% of the Germans have downloaded it in three months. I started a talk page about it but without further ado it was deleted anyway.Holger.Waldenberger (talk) 21:58, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

It's very difficult for anyone here to comment on this specific page as we can't see what you had written. As a general note, Misplaced Pages receives hundreds of article submissions a day about companies and their products which serve little purpose other than promotion. Sadly the force which is necessary to combat this means that a few "false positive" are inevitable. --LukeSurl 22:02, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Holger and welcome to The Teahouse. You say that the words "sensationally successful" were used. Is that a quote from someone? Promotional language like that would have to be referenced to an independent reliable source. I know it may not be your intention, but such wording violates the neutral point of view policy.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:21, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey Holger. Both the user who tagged it and the deleting administrator got a ping by your linking of their names, but the very first thing you should have done when a page was deleted was to go talk to the deleting administrator's talk and calmly explain the issue. It is my experience that nine times out of ten, if the page is not a blatant example, this will result in good action. What you should never do is attack them, which is exactly what you did by headlining this post as "Malicious page deletion", accusing these users of bad faith intent. It's close to a brightline rule that when you want something, being nasty to or attacking the people best situated to take action tends to get you the opposite of what you seek. Meanwhile, it is vanishingly unlikely that you are correct that there was any malicious intent here. See what Luke said above. We get hundreds of promotional articles a day and thousands of bad submissions of every stripe in the aggregate and so the processes that are necessary to deal with that can have some false-positives. Moreover, the article did have some language and hallmarks that made it appear promotional. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:21, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

My reasoning chimes very much with the comments above: it looked suspiciously like advertising; the comment left on my talk page by Holger, "I have no time now but don't delete it. It's Germany's most succesful app" frankly only acted to confirm my suspicion that it was a non-serious page creation. My apologies to Holger, naturally, if the page deserved not to be deleted - again, as per other comments - when you're deleting a page every other minute, the odd genuine creation will occasionally get lumped in with the others. JamKaftan (talk) 23:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Reviewing AfC by myself

I am an old contributor on Misplaced Pages and have created few articles. There is always backlog at AfC. Can I create article by myself which I submitted for review? Is it necessary to be reviewed by someone else? Currenty 5 articles are awaiting review. :) -Nizil (talk) 19:16, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Nizil and welcome to The Teahouse. If you are experienced and know the policies here, go right ahead and create the article and bypass the review. There is the risk of deletion if you do, but because you are not new, you may know how to write the article the correct way to keep that from happening.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:23, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Correct, all registered users, regardless of age or experience, are allowed to create articles themselves. (AfC is actually a totally optional process.) To do so, move the page into the mainspace by using the "Move" tab and changing the namespace dropdown to "(Article)". Make sure the title is what you want it to be, then click the "Move page" button. As Vchimpanzee mentioned, by bypassing AfC, it is up to yourself to make sure the subject and the article meets Misplaced Pages's inclusion guidelines. Mz7 (talk) 03:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Adding to the above comments, AfC is a useful process for new editors not fully familiar with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. But it is not perfect. Even if an article has been accepted through AfC, that is no guarantee that it will not be deleted later. I am an active reviewer at Articles for Deletion and it is quite common to see articles deleted which originally came through the AfC process successfully. Cullen Let's discuss it 07:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Cullen, Mz7 and Vchimpanzee. -Nizil (talk) 10:03, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I download a png image to my mac?

The image is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Stern-Gerlach_experiment.PNG#file

Thanks!

Mheaney (talk) 19:01, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse! To save an image to your Mac, right click on the image, which can be done by pressing "Control" on your keyboard and clicking on the image. A little menu should pop up - click on "Save image as...", and you'll be prompted to save the image to your computer. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

By the way, if you get yourself a Magic Mouse (if you don't already have one) you can set it up to right click directly, and they're rather, well, awesome and incomparable to any other mouse I've ever tried.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:26, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

How do you move your userboxes to the right side of your UserPage?

How do you move your userboxes to the right side of your UserPage? Cameron Brimhall (talk) 18:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

You can enclose them in Userboxtop and Userboxbottom, like so:

{{Userboxtop|toptext=}}{{userbox|whatever}}{{Userboxbottom}}

See my userpage for an example. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 18:35, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Is it OK to add relevant books to articles?

Hi - I work for a small book publisher who has several books relevant to existing Misplaced Pages articles. I would like to add them to References/Further Reading sections and hope this isn't seem as too promotional. What is the rule of thumb here? I have started putting some links up (You can see how this was done for Ōtagaki Rengetsu) and I would like to continue doing this as long as there is no threat of having them taken down. Thank you! 64.223.97.123 (talk) 16:53, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, person whose IP starts with 64, and welcome to The Teahouse. I think the rule is that Further Reading lists works which can't easily be used as references in the article for some reason (or if the books are used, they have lots of information that cannot be used in the article) but would be likely to significantly benefit the reader more than the person who puts them there.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:27, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. I will be sensitive to how our book references add or detract to the articles. The one that I would like to defend is the new edition of A World Restored: Metternich, Castlereagh and the Problems of Peace 1812-1822 to the self-titled article since it is otherwise out of print and extremely relevant. 64.223.97.123 (talk) 22:18, 25 February 2014 (UTC)EPBM

Encouraging users

I was wondering if there is a way of encouraging users to analyse your wikipedia pages?

Thank you for your time, Conor Robinson (talk) 14:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. If you are wanting someone to review User:Conor Robinson/sandbox, you could add {{subst:submit}} to the top of it, and it will then be in the article for creation system for review. Before that there are some details that you should sort out:

* The RN doesn't say "The HMS Hardy"; it is either "HMS Hardy" or "The Hardy".

* Wikipdia does not use ordinals in dates.

* I was going to point out that your references were all bare urls, but I see that another editor has addressed that problem.

Other details are hopefully relatively minor and can be addressed in the AFC review or afterwards.

--David Biddulph (talk) 14:24, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello Conor Robinson. I presume you are interested in getting some opinions on User:Conor_Robinson/sandbox? As a general rule, draft articles in user sandboxes are left alone unless help or review is requested.

Well, it seems like a good a creation to me. It's a clearly notable subject, and you've done a good job making sure all your facts are cited (I've used the "Reflinks" tool to turn some of your bare URLs into the standard citation format).

Two things to note:

• The "intro" section shouldn't have a header. If you delete the ==Intro== line, this text will appear above the table of contents as a lead section.
• The article currently has no wikilinks. These are essential to integrate the article into the rest of the encyclopedia. If you take a look at a good article about a ship, for example HMS_Hood_(1891), you can see that many words are clickable and can be followed through to other articles. For instructions on how to create Wikilinks, see WP:Wikilinks.
• The "Scarborough Bombing", "Jutland", "Fourth Destroyer Flotilla", and "Timeline" sections can probably be combined into a general "Service History" section. Using Wikilinks will help your prose, for example we have an article on the Battle of Jutland, so you can simply link to that in the text and you do not need to specify too many of the details of the battle that aren't of particular relevance to the Hardy. Similarly, there is an article on Dogger Bank. Linking there would save you having to specify the area's geocoordinates in the text.

Once these issues are resolved, I think you are ready to make this a full article. Once it is in the main body of the encyclopedia, other editors are likely to come along and make extra improvements.

This is a good first article. Well done. --LukeSurl 14:30, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

adding cover art

how do i add cover art. the insert button is grayed out. NickLustig (talk) 13:20, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Nick, welcome to the TeaHouse. Normally cover art can only be uploaded under Misplaced Pages's non-free content rules, which are quite complicated and in this case mean just one use of the cover art, at the top of the article about the product that it is the cover art for, and low resolution only. I see you have created a number of articles about video games, which have all been nominated for deletion. If the articles are ultimately deleted, then the cover art cannot stay on Misplaced Pages, so you would have wasted your time. So for now it would be better to focus on improving the articles, with references to independent reliable sources that discuss the games, so that the articles might ultimately be kept. Some links that might prove useful; Misplaced Pages:Referencing for beginners and Misplaced Pages:VRS. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

(e/c) @NickLustig: Hey Nick. If you are talking about the gray insert label above the editing window, that is not a clickable button, but is a label for the icons appearing to the right of it to it – the picture gallery, redirect and table icons; click on those to make them work. If this is about the insert button provided in the VisualEditor, I don't know the answer. I looked through the list of known bugs but didn't see that one. But if you are, you can switch back to editing by the default method, as all of your edits have been up to now (click "Edit source" instead of "Edit"). Note that if you are looking to use an image that is not already present locally or at the Wikimedia Commons (which is only for free images), it had to be uploaded first. See Misplaced Pages:File Upload Wizard. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:58, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

@Arthur, Thank you for the links. @Fuhghettaboutit, Yea I see what you mean. --NickLustig (talk) 17:23, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

i have created an article thiaoouba which you deleted

i have created an article thiaoouba which you deleted. it is not fair as it is real .you show bogus articles and why you can't show this one. Do yoy fear of american governmentOshoVIJAY (talk) 12:33, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello OshoVIJAY. Welcome to the teahouse. Did you mean the article deleted after the discussion Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Thiaoouba Prophecy? Also, could you tell us the names of any Misplaced Pages articles that you believe are bogus, and why you think so? Finally, no, it seems Misplaced Pages is not afraid of the American government or its agencies, as can be seen by this letter published by the New York Times. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 12:42, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello OshoVIJAY. The discussion that Arthur goes shopping linked to explains that the article was deleted because nobody could find any reliable independent sources which discuss the subject: that and that alone is the criterion for whether or not Misplaced Pages may have an article on a subject. If you can find some articles in major newspapers or magazines that discuss it, or a book about it from a publisher with a reputation for fact checking, then you may appeal the deletion, or try a new article. But if those references do not exist, then Misplaced Pages's rules do not permit an article about it. --ColinFine (talk) 12:52, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I note Thiaoouba Prophecy was deleted in 2009 - so is this the article you are referring to? - Arjayay (talk) 14:44, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

No, the OP is referring to THIOUBBA, a one-sentence, unsourced stub. It probably shouldn't have been deleted under A11, but would certainly qualify under G4. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:52, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Nickelroy is vandalizing by removing Namvistar Din photograph in Aurangabad, Maharashtra article

File:Massive crowd at Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar Marathwada University gate during Namvistar Din celebrations.png celebrations in Aurangabad.]]

The source is supporting article. By removing Namvistar din photograph Nickelroy is harming Misplaced Pages. This is Vandalism.

The culture of India refers to the way of life of the people of India. India's languages, religions, dance, music, architecture, food, and customs differ from place to place within the country. The Indian culture, often labelled as an amalgamation of several cultures, spans across the Indian subcontinent and has been influenced by a history that is several millennia old. This definition goes similar to Aurangabad culture. Read culture of India for more details.

The editor is not interested in answering on talk page here but continuously doing edit warring. I have requested editor many times and also added the source with photograph but Nickelroy is doing edit warring.

1. "'नामविस्तार दिना'साठी विद्यापीठ परिसर सजला". Maharashtra Times (in Marathi). Aurangabad. Bennett Coleman & Co. Ltd. 14 January 2012. Retrieved 6 August 2013. विद्यापीठाचा नामविस्तार झाल्यानंतर १४ जानेवारी हा दिवस आंबेडकरी विचारधारेतील पक्ष, संघटना, परिवर्तनवादी संघटना मोठ्या प्रमाणावर साजरा करतात. विद्यापीठ प्रशासनाने मुख्य इमारत व गेटवर रोषणाई केली आहे. गेटवर येणाऱ्या मंडळीतील अनेकजण बौद्ध लेण्यावर जातात. नामविस्तार दिनाचा आनंद साजरा करण्यासाठी आंबेडकरी जनता मोठ्या प्रमाणावर येते. त्यामुळे येथे राजकीय सभा घेण्याची प्रथा पडली आहे.English translation:After University Namvistar, the day of 14 January is celebrated by (political) parties influenced by Ambedkar thinking, as well as organizations, indeed radical organizations celebrate this day on a large scale. The University administration puts up lighting decorations on the main building and gate. The majority of Gate visitors go to Buddhist caves. To celebrate Namvistar Din Ambedkar followers visit in large masses. That's why political parties arranging the gatherings (here) have become a tradition. Note: Aurangabad city is surrounded by the Aurangabad Caves, Ellora Caves and Ajanta Caves. {{cite news}}: line feed character in |quote= at position 616 (help)

JAIBHIM5 (talk) 08:52, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Both of you JAIBHIM5 and Nickelroy are edit-warring, and you need to stop. Nickelroy has given their reasons repeatedly in their edit summaries. You may disagree, but disagreeing with you is not vandalism, and I would advise you to stop throwing that accusation around. If the other party will not engage in discussion, Dispute resolution tells you how to proceed. --ColinFine (talk) 09:00, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

ColinFine: Nickelroy is not answering on here. And source is supporting the photograph and article. Here Nickelroy asked for citations. When I have added the citation Nickelroy has no need to vandalize. JAIBHIM5 (talk) 09:42, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

JAIBHIM5: Nickelroy has replied on your talk page today. I repeat, the two of you have a content dispute, and dispute resolution tells you how to proceed. But I for one get annoyed when I see accusations of vandalism made for edits which are clearly in good faith. --ColinFine (talk) 12:34, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I am repeating myself that I have no personal reason to strike out the picture. But it really doesn't make sense to have a picture which is not a part of the Aurangabadi culture. You are repeating yourself JAIBHIM5. I really fail to understand how the source validates the use of the image in the cultural section. I invite people to suggest what can be done in order to end this dispute. JAIBHIM5 doesn't seem to be ready to negotiate. JAIBHIM5 please refer to Misplaced Pages:Negotiation before you make further changes. You have broken the three edit rule already. Lets try to solve this issue by Misplaced Pages:Negotiation, if not will have to take it to Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard as a last resort.

Licensing question

If an image is licensed under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license (attribution and share-alike), and I remake the image as a vector image, can I freely license my version of the image or does it have to follow to guidelines of the previous license?

For example, this file uses the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license. Can I remake this image and release it to the public domain?

Thank you. DoktorRF (talk) 05:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. The license of the image is "ShareAlike," which is Creative Commons's term for copyleft. In short, you must release a work based on it under the same license. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 05:27, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Best way to quote an editor on a talk page

If on a talk page I want to include 4-5 line quote from another editor from another talk page, what is the right syntax/style to do that? I'm thinking about the original user sig, do you copy that? A bit confusing since the quoted person did not actually edit the page I'm on. Silas Ropac (talk) 03:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to Teahouse! You could use Template:Tq, so for example: Teahouse is an amazing place to go for community help! -EuroCarGT would be {{tq|Teahouse is an amazing place to go for community help!}} -EuroCarGT I wouldn't add the signature as it may notify the user, you can do it if you want to but if you want to quote someone, I would just use a hyphen then their username! ///EuroCarGT 04:34, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

page that was deleted before

Good day, i am wondering how can i re make a page that was deleted before? i have all the right info now so im ready to fix it.

thanks1017west (talk) 03:23, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. To create a page, type in the name of the page and there will be an option to create it. Just make sure you note the reasons why the page was deleted before. (They will be in a notice above the editing area.) Anon126 (talk - contribs) 03:42, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Good day

they are telling me to "first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below."

how do i do that??

thanks1017west (talk) 04:02, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hm...what page would this be, exactly? Anon126 (talk - contribs) 04:25, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Here is the article Phinés West which has now been recreated with an incorrect spelling having been deleted previously. Theroadislong (talk) 14:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

ISBN troubles

Hello, I'm having a problem with an ISBN number in a ref that I'm formatting here: It gives me the following message, once I have saved the ref: Check |isbn= value (help) Any suggestions? Thanks much! EMP (talk) 00:28, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Your ISBN number was invalid. No ISBN has 11 digits. An editor has fixed it. The correct ISBN can be seen by clikcing "About this book" at your reference url. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Removing the "beta" link and the user talk message number in the user toolbar

I realize that I'm not new, but the other questions page was for editing, uploading images, et cetera. I would like to know if there is a way to remove the "beta" link along with the number in between to your user page link and the "talk" link. If this isn't possible, I understand. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 19:32, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! I don't think there's an official setting anywhere to remove those links, but you can mess around with your custom CSS file, located at User:Pikachu Bros./common.js:

Add $('#pt-betafeatures').hide(); to the file to remove the Beta link.

Ad $('#pt-notifications').hide(); to the file to remove the notification count.

Hope this helps! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 05:53, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

P.S.: Note that I'm not entirely sure if removing the notification count will also remove any notifications about new talk page messages, so be wary of that. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 05:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

other languages

Are refernces to other Language Wirkipedia articles (Russian in my example) valid as sources?

UforUSSR (talk) 11:37, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the teahouse. Unfortunately, Misplaced Pages articles in any language are not considered reliable sources, because their contents can be changed by anyone. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

However, if the Russian article cites a reference, from a reliable, independent source, you can use that source, even if it is written in Russian. However, please check the reference, before using it, to make sure it actually supports what you are saying. - Arjayay (talk) 12:43, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

UforUSSR (talk) 04:14, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Editing edit summaries

Is there any way I can edit my own edit summaries. I recently did an edit and my summary had a typo which I would like to correct but this doesn't seem possible at the moment. I would only want to change my own edit summaries of course. Perhaps the edit summary could be viewed in the preview window somehow.  Jodosma  10:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

No, I am afraid you can't change an edit summary - if there is something particularly wrong with a summary you can make a WP:Dummy edit and explain in that edit summary. As for the edit summary being viewed, if you click "Show preview" your edit summary is also previewed under the edit summary box. - Arjayay (talk) 10:08, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, job done.  Jodosma  22:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Edits

Is there anywhere I can find articles that need edits to practice on?--Sta13ths17 (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sta13ths17, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you're looking for a place to experiment, check out the sandbox, which allows you to play around and make a mess in. If you feel like actually editing, you can pick a random article and see if there's anything you can help out on. K6ka (talk | contribs) 00:11, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

There are lots of articles that needs edits just go to which you think needs to be edited.Easycalculation (talk) 12:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Stylistic Rewriting

I have recently learned that my editing is not copy editing but stylistic rewriting, whereby I so change correct writing as improve its concision and readability. I thus encounter several problems:

1 I sometimes see absent words and miss present ones, causing bizarre errors. 2 Other editors revert my edits, claiming that they subtly changed meaning. 3 Hardly anyone ever replies to my messages about either problem 1 or 2.

Almost every edit of mine, however otherwise constructive, is therefore ultimately reverted. I and the reverting editors and frustrated. Can anyone help me?

If to age is to callous over one's sympathy, then I shall remain a I child forever. (talk) 22:08, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. To put it bluntly, you do not display the necessary grasp of either English grammar or vocabulary to be undertaking extensive copy editing. You also appear to lack an eye for detail - hence the many "schoolboy" errors in your writing immediately above. Blackberry Sorbet (talk • contribs) 01:15, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

I twice erred, forgetting a "to" and writing "I" before "reverting editors".

If my copy-editing is bad, then it has only recently deteriorated: of the forty seven reversions of my over four-hundred fifty copy edits, about half were this February. Your "bluntly" saying that my grammar, vocabulary, and attention suffice not therefore hurts my feelings. Please help me understand why my recent edits are being reverted.

Duxwing (talk) 00:52, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Sources - can I quote catalogues to London art exhibitions and galleries?

I am trying to create an article about a portrait painter of adequate stature to be included in Misplaced Pages. Apart from Newspaper articles, can I refer to exhibitions at leading London galleries and also refer to introductions to those exhibitions? Published catalogues with ISBN numbers are obviously no problem but what about the privately printed catalogues? I am not talking about the enthusiastic blurb which obviously does not qualify but reference to the basic facts of the painter's life for which I need an independent source.Elist (talk) 10:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is an online encyclopedia, so I think, my POV, is that any reliable source has to be online. What you are referring to must probably be an archived link. Then, quote it. Emekadavid (talk) 20:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

@Emekadavid - no, there's some guidelines somewhere that are quite explicit on that point, sources don't have to be online, although it obviously makes it easier for everyone. They just have to be publicly available - in this context it could be catalogues that have been deposited with a university art library for instance, I've come across cases where family papers have been deposited with a public archive so that they could be referred to on Misplaced Pages. That's verifiability - does the reference actually say what an editor claims it says? Reliability is a different thing, it's about assessing the credibility of the author. Something like a Sothebys/Christies catalogue should have a decent weight of scholarship behind it, catalogues from smaller commercial galleries are little better than "my nan says..." It depends a bit on context - anything involving living people needs a higher standard of reliability, and think about how you'd go about sourcing the DOB of a Hollywood actress who's known to have lied about her age. I'd start questioning the inherent notability of people where you're scrabbling too much to verify basic details like birth date.Le Deluge (talk) 00:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Le Deluge. Those comments + your message are very helpful - particularly the tip about family papers and archived material and the capability of using things that are behind a paywall. I did not reply before because I could not find my way back to teahouse! Misplaced Pages for a new user is labyrinthine and needs courage. Elist Elist (talk) 10:29, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Vm nmvm

what i dont care if its deleted i just tried it anyway. Now my question is can i reply if someone message me?? If i can then mind telling how?? If not then forget it.

My second question is im searching mythologies for my thesis but all i can find is gods and goddesses from ther sites about korean myhtology more or less im searching for a list and some info of some people like Yeomra-Daewang or whatever its spelled.

My comment i dont mind providing info on my own i can do that but most or 99% of what i searched are already here. Sory for using this for this thong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Addictux (talk • contribs) 16:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Addictux and welcome to The Teahouse. If someone sends you a message, they should have a signature which links to their talk page. You can click on that link, and click on "New section" at the top of their page.

For the answer to your other question, try the Humanities Reference Desk.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

A question about global signons

Hi, I'm looking for a way to remind myself not to edit on certain wikis, as a way of avoiding the trolls that lurk there. When I sign on here, I'm automatically signed on in a lot of places. Having a global signon is clearly a good way to prevent identity theft, but it has this downside that one can absent-mindedly get involved in linking and improving content in several places at once. I'd love to be reminded with "you are not signed in" if I try to submit an improvement in a place that I should have remembered is troll-infested. I'd hoped it would be possible to find a list under "Preferencs" of those places where I'm happy to be automatically signed on, but haven't been able to find such a thing. Thanks for any help you can offer. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 17:55, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

What you request is possible, but it wouldn't be nice! Why don't you just open pages on the Wikipedias you are interested in and let the rest be. my POV. Emekadavid (talk) 20:49, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sminthopsis84 and welcome to the Teahouse. It would require you to add some JavaScript to your common.js file on the wikis that you do not want to edit. I would be happy to help you with that if you like. Feel free to email me a list, or post your list on my talk page of wikis that you don't want to edit and I'll give you the specific code that you will need for each one to be reminded. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} 20:54, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much Technical 13, I thought it would be possible for someone very knowledgeable about the system. I've sent you email. And Emekadavid, the point is to be nice, to avoid building up my frustration level to the point where I might explode at someone or make a cutting remark. I consider it wise to build barriers for myself so that I don't stumble into a nest of trolls every few months, in order that I can continue making contributions that have a greater sweetness-and-light component to them. And no, the opening-a-few-windows approach hasn't worked all that well for me over the past few years. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:02, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Nickelroy is vandalizing by removing Namvistar Din photograph in Aurangabad, Maharashtra article

--ColinFine (talk) 09:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

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