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== DVdm's removal of my "talk" comments on length contraction == | |||
Hi WikiDan61, | |||
I am sorry to see that DVdm considers me an anti-relativity crank. I am not. I accept the constant speed of light through space (and GR's predictive power over Newtonian gravity theory.) | |||
The essence of my criticism addresses the debate about whether or not length contraction describes physical "shrinkage" of objects (or the distances between them) or merely the subjective "point of view" differences in how different frames of reference might observe and measure lengths. | |||
Here are three examples of this issue from Wiki texts with my comments inserted: | |||
(Regarding the Bell Paradox): | |||
"For instance, Bell argued that the length contraction of objects as well as the lack of length contraction between objects in frame S can be explained using Relativistic electromagnetism. The distorted electromagnetic intermolecular fields cause moving objects to contract, or to become stressed if hindered from doing so. In contrast, no such forces act on the space between objects." | |||
Yet the supposed contraction of Earth's diameter in my example to you is clearly not a compacting of Earths atoms or molecules to result in a physical contraction to 4000 miles, as *observed* by the ship (approaching at 86.6% of light speed.) And certainly the distances between bodies in space does not contract "as measured by" relativistic frames traveling through space. | |||
(Regarding the Ehrenfest paradox): | |||
"Another famous paradox is the Ehrenfest paradox, which proves that the concept of rigid bodies is not compatible with relativity, and reduces the applicability of Born rigidity." | |||
This claims that there is no such thing as rigid bodies in relativity... that, using my Earth example again, the length of Earth's diameter varies with relativistic frames measuring it. Yet Earth's diameter does not change with every possible velocity and direction of frames theoretically measuring it. | |||
(Regarding the "real or not" argument): | |||
"See for example Physics FAQ: "People sometimes argue over whether the Lorentz-Fitzgerald contraction is "real" or not... here's a short answer: the contraction can be measured, but the measurement is frame dependent. Whether that makes it "real" or not has more to do with your choice of words than the physics." | |||
This claims that objects do not have intrinsic lengths as formed (or built, in the case of my spaceship example.) The "varying length" of Earth's diameter (as above) is definitely not "real" just because measurements of it taken from relativistic frames would differ. It is not just a semantic "choice of words" issue. | |||
Please convey this message to DVdm and reconsider the judgement that I am a crank. I am sorry that my 18 years of relativity study and choice of usernames makes me a suspected crackpot. I am an SR critic, and good science thrives on criticism... usually. (I have in fact taught university "Philosophy of Science.") | |||
Thanks again for reconsidering. | |||
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Thanks Dan - please see my comments on the CST talk page made a short while ago. Peoplemapsdavid (talk) 17:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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Just another sock of many of Codyfinke, who has a long history of odd food brand redirects. Nate • (chatter) 08:36, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Incredibly inconsiderate undoing of edits at Saïd Business School
I agree that the copyright violation is an issue, but revering my changes because you are too lazy to revert just the copyright violations is incredibly inconsiderate. Please don't do it in the future CombatWombat42 (talk) 18:52, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- I was actually going to go back and reintroduce the changes you had made after the revert, but got called away before I had the chance to do so. Apologies. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 19:11, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hello Dan, I'm not entirely sure, but I think the work is free, see the bottom of that page and also this. What do you think about it? --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 15:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
This might be helpful as well: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Copyright Cleanup/Sources. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, I'm no expert. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 15:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the source page does release the material under CC-BY-SA, so I suppose the copyvio issue can be resolved by attributing the text on the talk page. This will bring us to the next problem, of course: the text as written is a very poor biography, and relates more to the Duke Library collection than to the woman herself. The same Duke U page does provide a complete biography of Baldwin, but it is unsourced so is inappropriate for inclusion here at Misplaced Pages. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:01, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding the attribution. The article is not perfect, but it may be a good starting point for a reader interested in the topic. I don't think that the current state of the article is a big problem. Thanks again for your assistance. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi WikiDan61, I noticed you tagged Procolophonida for speedy deletion. I just wondered why because when I checked Procolophonidae I could not find the information on Procolophonida in the article. The speedy deletion tag said that it had the same information as Procolophonidae which was why it was tagged for deletion. Anyway, I was going to try to add a taxobox to it. Can you delay the deletion long enough for me to add to it and make it more of its own article? Once I have I'll remove the tag. Reid,iain james (talk) 22:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Never mind, It has already been redirected. Reid,iain james (talk) 23:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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Rati Tsiteladze
Hi,
Thank you for all you warnings and for giving me opportunity to improve my article. Please find below the details and evidence I found so far
All Kyokushin World Tournament 2nd IFKK World Weight Category Championships
2009 european kyokushin/shinkyokushin championship vilnius lithuania
2008 World all system kickboxing organisation - World kickboxing Championship WK1
I have pictures, Magazine articles and videos(youtube) as evidence which I can not upload here if you would like to check please allow me to send you by Email. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nino Red (talk • contribs) 20:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Pictures and YouTube videos are generally not accepted as reliable sources since anyone can make one to look like anything one wants. Published magazine articles are generally more acceptable, and you don't have to post them anywhere. You can just cite them, using the instructions at Help:Citing sources. The sources should be more specific than the sources you have provided so far, and should give the details such as the specific competition (date, place, organization) which Tsiteladze has won.
- To explain my specific confusions:
- When I Google the phrase "All Kyokushin World Tournament", I get a bunch of videos, but no official links to any organization that sponsored this event, so I have to wonder about its legitimacy.
- When I search for "2009 European Kyokushin/Shinkyokushin Championship", I get this link to a forum about Kyokushin, but that lists the 2009 championship as having occurred in Kiev, not Vilnius, so again, I am left confused.
- When I search for "World All System Kickboxing Organization", I get no results at all. There is a not at the World Association of Kickboxing Organizations that that organization was founded as the World All-Style Kickboxing Organization (WASKO), but the List of WAKO Amateur World Championships does not list a World Champion tournament in 2008, nor a World Championship of any date in Egypt. There was a championship held in Belgrade in 2007 (and the photo of Tsiteladze in his article does show a belt with a 2007 date), but Tsiteladze is not listed among the champions of this tournament.
- I hope you can understand my confusion about this athlete. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 21:21, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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HI I have edited the article and also added more references please have a look and let me know if you still need anything in order to save my article from deletion.
I found World Championship tournament in Egypt 2008 listed by WASKO please find below link.
http://www.muaythaitv.com/events/wasko-world-kickboxing-championship-e495.html
I understand your confusion and I'm trying to find best evidence online. If the information I found is not enough please let me know if its possible to send you images and articles by Email as I have Ratis private close up pictures and newspaper articles.
Thank you very much for your time I do really appreciate your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nino Red (talk • contribs) 12:52, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Alloy
Hey,
I'm confused as to what this means( (→Brands: Remove overlinkin) (undo |) and why you deleted certain sections I am working on for the Alloy Digital page. I do not see anything wrong with those sections. Please let me know so I can fix it! Thanks Me bernstein (talk) 19:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- It means that in the section labeled "Brands", I have removed examples of overlinking. You are writing the article copy such that every time you refer to the name "Alloy Digital", you are creating it as a WikiLink ("]"). When you place a WikiLink in an article to that self-same article, it produces bold text rather than the normal link formatting, causing the name of the company to appear in bold every time. This is unnecessary and not in keeping with the manual of style. I have not actually deleted any sections you have written: the only significant content I deleted was the company's exact street address, as this is irrelevant information in an encyclopedia article. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 19:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
ok thank you! Me bernstein (talk) 19:25, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
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Market Vectors Indices
Hi Dani, I am trying to set up a page that describes the Market Vectors Indices, but you have declared it as non-notable and therefore not complying with the rules. I was told that my username is not ok, so now I've changed it to Claudio MVIS. What else can I do to avoid that you block my page? Market Vectors Indices are relatively new indices that screen Emerging Markets and Commodities and are used by financial institutions to issue products their products. Our indices are similar stuff like the Dow Jones Indexes, FTSE Indexes, MSCI and other index providers (that already have their page on wiki).
Can you please help?
Thanks Claudio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudio mvis (talk • contribs)
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- While your original username was a problem, indicating that you were editing on behalf of a company rather than on your own behalf, that was not why the article was tagged for deletion. Misplaced Pages is not here to promote your new market index. Rather, it is a place to write about things that have already become notable as indicated by the availability of significant coverage in reliable third party sources. I do not believe any such sources exist for this new market index. Instead, all I was able to find were the company's own website and its press releases advertising its product. When (if) the index becomes a widely-used index, then independent writers will write about it in trade journals and the like, and we will be able to look to those published articles as independent sources on which to build an article. Until then, not. That is why the article was nominated for deletion. If there are reliable sources that I was unable to find, you should mention that fact at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Market Vectors Indices, and other editors can evaluate the sources and see if they help the issue. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 15:44, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Dani, you can find a lot of references about market vectors indices, for example on http://finance.yahoo.com/news/market-vectors-index-solutions-announces-210000999.html or on http://www.marketwatch.com/story/market-vectors-index-solutions-licenses-global-agribusiness-and-global-solar-energy-indices-to-van-eck-2013-03-18 or also http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/02/market-vectors-index-idUSnBw025855a+100+BSW20130502.
As you know, market indices are instruments to monitor a market in a region or sector. In fact, you see all other index providers like Dow Jones, MSCI, FTSE that are also providing information on their indices. Isn't this enough? If not, then please just delete the page and my account.
- Claudio, all those sources you've listed are press releases, which do not count as independent reliable sources. And you have made a mistake about how Misplaced Pages operates: the pages on Dow Jones, FTSE, etc, are not created by the companies themselves but rather by independent Misplaced Pages editors who find reliable independent sources from which to draw information. With your company, there are no such sources. And if the only reason you came to Misplaced Pages was to write about your own company, then perhaps a request to delete your account is not inappropriate, but I can't do that for you. You can simply stop editing; there is no real reason to delete your account. But if you truly want to purge the encyclopedia of any evidence of your visit, check out WP:VANISH for instructions on how that can be accomplished. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:16, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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I've removed all contents from the page and added the {{db-user}} tag as described in the VANISH page. Hope this is it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudio mvis (talk • contribs)
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- There is no need to remove the article because of your conflict of interest. Your father appears to be a notable person with a significant naval career and post-military industrial career. The article, in its present form is fine, and has the attention of several other editors (myself included) who will work to resolve the issues. What you must not do is to continue to undo the work that I and others are doing to improve your article to bring it into line with Misplaced Pages standards and guidelines. The article is not your article anymore -- you have launched it into the Misplaced Pages world where other editors will collaborate on it. In some cases, you can blank an article (and replace the content with the template {{db-author}}) indicating that, as the sole author, you wish the article to be deleted. But you are no longer the sole author; enough other hands have been in the works that this deletion process is no longer valid. You can try to nominate the page for deletion (through the articles for deletion process, but I do not think this article would be deleted in that process. There is sufficient independent source material to create this article about this significant figure in Indian military history, so the article will likely remain, even if you don't want it to. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 20:21, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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Regarding deletation article of betawi persona - Miss Unique rose
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (Hi, Miss Rose is legendary batavia/betawi personnage, although does not written in English but written in bahasa Indonesia (thats the reason why i'd submitted first article in Bahasa Indonesia from local news paper IS not SPAM ) Again we put in bahasa, its because the native languages where she has comes from indonesia,and her audiences might read easily too.
Regarding photos,Those photos took in Indonesia is about her and persona of originally from BETAWI , who cares of animals and nature living which now has been deforestation now in Indonesia, This is seems to be mistake if u delete it.
Misplaced Pages should allow people to contribute a legendary person in his own languages for example miss rose is from batavia so why should be deleted while her photos was in Indonesia?? again those articles have been deleted many times..NOT SURE WHAT type of interdiction its mistake here, while u allow some not important persona in WIKIPEDIA but u didn't allow Miss Rose articles in as our honest contribution??? ,Miss unique rose is a person who cares of humanitaire, cultural and even international artist,have right to be written ) --Murcare (talk) 23:22, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- Whether or not the topic of an article relates to a non-English speaking people, the articles at the English Misplaced Pages must be written in English. If you feel that an article on Miss Unique Rose must be written in Bahasa Indonesia so that the people of Indonesia can more easily access it, you may write that article at the Indonesian Misplaced Pages.
- As for Miss Unique Rose's English language article that was deleted, you claim her to be a "legendary Betawi personage", you have provided no references to prove that assertion. My own research indicates that Miss Unique Rose is a model working in Europe specializing in reproducing pin-up art of the 1920s and 1930s, who has used her moderate success to perform charitable works in her Indonesian homeland. Laudable, perhaps, but not entirely notable.
- However, instead of writing an article based on the facts I have outlined above, you have instead written an article that violates Misplaced Pages's neutrality policy by doing nothing but praising Miss Rose for the amazing person she is. That's not what Misplaced Pages is here for. If you'd like to write a blog about her, there are any number of other outlets for your writing. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 11:20, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi wiki, what do u mean by this sentences?If you'd like to write a blog about her, there are any number of other outlets for your writing' , what outlet means on that article? Regarding those words i had been wrote, honestly.,i just copy words traduction of what article on newspaper had been done, u told me should write in English instead of bahasa where the originally source comes about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.189.215.171 (talk) 04:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- I presume the preceding was added by Murcare (talk · contribs), having forgotten to log in. I will address my response accordingly.
- What I meant when I said "there are any number of outlets available" is that there are many free web hosting services where you can create a blog to write about Miss Unique Rose and your admiration for her. But Misplaced Pages is not a place to write such admiring articles. It is a place to write neutral articles. As for your "traduction" (in English, we actually prefer the word "translation") of what a newspaper article had written: if you have translated the article verbatim as your Misplaced Pages article, this is a copyright violation and cannot be allowed to remain. And even if that were not an issue, if the newspaper article was overtly praising of Miss Unique Rose (newspapers the world over do not have a uniform aim of neutrality as Misplaced Pages does), then the material is inappropriate. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 11:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hey Dan, I tried to list a bunch of links for you on the AfD page. Just to give you the background, those of us that were working on this, first visited the Wiki Live Help Chatroom and talked to the editors in there to see if it was something we should do. They had us create a basic version, and over a few days had us keep checking in with them and had us add things / subtract things etc. Obviously we wouldn't have gone through all that trouble in the first place if it was just going to be deleted. That's why we went to the editors in Live Help first. In my opinion, a following of over 50,000, 4 recent Oprah shows, a documentary on the Golf Channel, multiple co-writes with major music industry personalities and a record deal with a major label make him notable. Please let me know what I can provide for you. Thanks for your time. FeerTheDeer (talk) 01:14, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
de-orphaning R. Couri Hay's Misplaced Pages Page.
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I created the Misplaced Pages page, R. Couri Hay. I was made aware in June that it was considered an orphan page. I read through the directions and added two links coming from other related wiki pages. I added the Lyford Cay that mentions R. Couri Hay on their Misplaced Pages page; I also linked R. Couri Hay's internal wiki link onto their page. I did the same thing for the Misplaced Pages page of Ryan Wallace (artist). Please let me know if this helps to de-orphan R. Couri Hay's Misplaced Pages.
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Natalie — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatalieAnise (talk • contribs) 16:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Bernardo Kuczer
I don't really understand your last change, where you replaced the "autobiography" tag by another tag, asking for more "reliable sources". As you may have noticed, the article contains a quotation from the musicologist Harry Halbreich, which was published in a renowned French magazine of classical music. What sort of additional sources do you have in mind? Greetings, --Goliath613 (talk) 16:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, and that quotation is fine to verify the opinion of one reviewer about one performance of one piece by Kuczer. However, the article contains many other facts that remain unverified, regarding both Kuczer's personal life and his professional accomplishments. His extensive list of compositions is uncited, as are the facts regarding his education and his early life, as well as recognition for his piece "Even... the loudest sky". Biographies of living people are held to a high standard at Misplaced Pages; biographies that are insufficiently sourced may be heavily edited to remove any and all unsourced material. I have not done that, but the article does need more sources. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:23, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- I'm glad you have not done that, and I think you most probably won't do it. I'm quite sure there are dozens, if not hundreds of biographies of living people with their personal life, professional accomplishments and list of works remaining uncited. I would be interested to know if other people agree with you that the article does need more sources. --Goliath613 (talk) 18:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- The fact that other poor articles exist is never a valid argument to say that this article should remain in poor condition. The fact that other people agree with me that the article needs more sources is implicit in the Misplaced Pages policies on verifiability, especially in the case of biographies of living people. I didn't make these policies up; the entire Misplaced Pages community came to them by a detailed consensus process. If you don't like the policies, there are many other places where you can write about Kuczer without such restrictions. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 18:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Please don't try to show off, I'm not impressed. --Goliath613 (talk) 04:43, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- The fact that other poor articles exist is never a valid argument to say that this article should remain in poor condition. The fact that other people agree with me that the article needs more sources is implicit in the Misplaced Pages policies on verifiability, especially in the case of biographies of living people. I didn't make these policies up; the entire Misplaced Pages community came to them by a detailed consensus process. If you don't like the policies, there are many other places where you can write about Kuczer without such restrictions. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 18:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- I'm glad you have not done that, and I think you most probably won't do it. I'm quite sure there are dozens, if not hundreds of biographies of living people with their personal life, professional accomplishments and list of works remaining uncited. I would be interested to know if other people agree with you that the article does need more sources. --Goliath613 (talk) 18:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Dan61
Hello WikiDan61, I have got your responses on the pages I have recently created. The page http://en.wikipedia.org/Westcoast_Stone, is currently updated fully with more references, especially about the title / award which it gave a strike to be deleted. Thank you.
-OGMDOC — Preceding unsigned comment added by OGmuthafkkinDoc (talk • contribs) 16:29, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Westcoast Stone has been nominated for deletion. Any comments regarding this issue should be directed to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Westcoast Stone. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:37, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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I am new to Misplaced Pages and have found it tricky to use. Please do not hold this against me, I did not mean to offend anyone.
EmRob07 — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmRob07 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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- And please do not recreate a deleted article with substantively identical text. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:06, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hello User:WikiDan61, I have removed the deletion notice from this article, as this is sufficient to be contributed and added to Misplaced Pages. If you want to raise please raise in AFD. And I was not aware that I cannot delete the notice, so for that I am sorry.
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Wikidan61! What do you mean by Sock Puppetry.
I have always understand you and your decisions, but this time what do you mean my that i am having multiple account, so please be cautious before writing to anyone. I am Ron Gates and use and have only 1 account named Ron Gates.
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- We'll let the admins at SPI decide that. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 15:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
What w Whales
Sorry. I did not know how to nominate an article for speedy deletion. Publicjustice (talk) 20:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- You appear to have embarked on a career of recent changes patrolling at Misplaced Pages. If you are going to do so, you must learn how to use the tools at your disposal. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 20:19, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, so could you please tell me how to nominate a page for speedy deletion? Thanks a lot.Publicjustice (talk) 14:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
- There are a couple of ways to do this. The most straightforward is to edit the page, and place the appropriate speedy deletion template. For a list of the templates, see Speedy deletion templates. There is a template corresponding to each of the valid speedy deletion criteria listed at WP:CSD. After you have placed the template, there will be a part of the template that tells you how to notify the author that you have tagged the page. Copy that information and insert it onto the author's user talk page.
- Okay, so could you please tell me how to nominate a page for speedy deletion? Thanks a lot.Publicjustice (talk) 14:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
- The easier way to do this, if you have the proper permissions, is to install the Twinkle or Huggle tool, which will then provide you with extra tabs along the top of any page (in addition to the "edit, history, ..." tabs) that will allow you to automatically tag the file with the appropriate speedy deletion templates. But before you use these tools, be sure you have thoroughly familiarized yourself with the speedy deletion criteria. Improperly marking a page and warning users can be a real problem. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 15:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
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We do not require a username change because X Blake Freeman X is a joint member in our publishing company.
(He owns a percentage and is a share holder, the article is not for promotional use it is purely to output information on X Blake Freeman X that is frequently asked about, there are many, many more musicians who are below his popularity levels yet still have unedited Misplaced Pages pages. The only difference is, one simple Facebook search proves that he has a fan base.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oakley Publications (talk • contribs)
- You do require a name change, because your user name is the name of a company or organization, which violates WP:ORGNAME. User accounts are supposed to be used by a single person, not by any member of a corporation who needs to edit at the moment. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 20:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much for completely ignoring the second statement in my argument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oakley Publications (talk • contribs) 20:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- I did not ignore anything. You claim that you do not need to change usernames because X Blake Freeman X is a member of your publishing company, and that Freeman deserves a Misplaced Pages page. That second point is irrelevant, and not the point of this discussion. You need to change user names because Misplaced Pages does not allow usernames that are the names of a company rather than an individual. (Please read and understand WP:ORGNAME.) WikiDan61ReadMe!! 20:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey there! Thanks so much for the feedback. I am having some trouble formatting the citations. I will go through your recommendations now though. Grainneaine (talk) 08:24, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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Sorry for not leaving a comment. However, what's the deal with requesting my page for deletion? Enorris83 (talk) 16:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- The deal is that, when we make up new words that we think are cool, we don't get to use Misplaced Pages to spread the news. Whether you made up the word or not, it is a neologism that has no evidence of widespread use. If you disagree, you are free to weigh in at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Zambranaing. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Zambranaing
Dan - Understood. I just updated the page with proof that it's taking place in Portugal and in different states across the country. Can we please agree to leave the page as is and I will continue to update. Considering all of the negative things on Wiki it would be nice to see it used for something positive. Please advise. Enorris83 (talk) 16:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- What you've done is uploaded a bunch of pictures (probably in violation of Misplaced Pages's copyright guidelines) that show that people like to have their pictures taken while cycling. You have not demonstrated that the term Zambranaing has come into widespread usage to describe this activity. Again, if you have anything further to say on the matter, refer to the AFD page. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Joanne Wheatley
Info on books — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knights365 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
magazine column — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knights365 (talk • contribs) 15:11, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- What you're failing to grasp here is that all of Wheatley's notability arises from her winning the Bake Off show, which means this falls in to the category of a person notable for a single event, in which case the recommendation is to merely mention the person in the article about the event. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:11, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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dj also is me im person and living in iran why you delete my article ?!?!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sobhan.alizadeh (talk • contribs) 19:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't delete your article. I nominated your article for speedy deletion, because it makes no claim that you are a notable musician. All topics included at Misplaced Pages need to meet the criteria for inclusion, which generally means that the topic has been written about in a significant manner in reliable sources. You appear to be a DJ who has started experimenting by remixing other artists' songs, and that's a great place to start, but it hardly makes you notable yet. Further, you should understand that writing an article about yourself at Misplaced Pages is strongly discouraged. As a final note, I have noted that your ability to communicate in English is rudimentary at best. You might be more comfortable contributing to the Persian Misplaced Pages instead. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 19:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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Dan, I appreciate your suggestions and will spend more time with the tutorials learning how to generate new articles within Misplaced Pages guidelines. It's more complicated than I assumed when I started this article. As one of the writers and educators in the tea industry, I thought it would be helpful to generate more articles about the most important people and businesses in the industry rather than have the topics populated by the largest companies who can afford to hire PR firms to promote them.
Please delete the current page and, after studying the tutorials more thoroughly, I will start again later. Babette Donaldson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CC48:2FE0:853D:6F5A:C7A9:D381 (talk) 16:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- I am not an administrator, and cannot delete the page. If you would like to have it deleted, replace all of the content except for the "articles for deletion" notice with the {{db-author}} template. Then make a comment on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Imperial Tea Court indicating that you would like to have the article deleted. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:34, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Derrick Strickland
Hi WikiDan! In regards to Derrick Strickland - Entertainment Industry Professional - and his credits: he is credited on the magazine pages themselves at the top of each article. In the Luxe Magazine, his credit is on the side of the page. Also, his co-producer credit at IMDB - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0834365/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
He did significant work in the 90's in tv and print (I used to represent him) and I still get calls regularly about his whereabouts. Now that he has moved into production I truly believe that he deserves inclusion in wikipedia. He is, and never has been a self-promoter which is why there may not be an enormous amount about him online. Thank you so much for your time and care dedicated to fishing this out.
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Derrick Strickland
Hi WikiDan! In regards to Derrick Strickland - Entertainment Industry Professional - and his credits: he is credited on the magazine pages themselves at the top of each article. In the Luxe Magazine, his credit is on the side of the page. Also, his co-producer credit at IMDB - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0834365/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
He did significant work in the 90's in tv and print (I used to represent him) and I still get calls regularly about his whereabouts. Now that he has moved into production I truly believe that he deserves inclusion in wikipedia. He is, and never has been a self-promoter which is why there may not be an enormous amount about him online. Thank you so much for your time and care dedicated to fishing this out.
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Tancredi AfD
Hi Dan, this may be of interest to you. De728631 (talk) 23:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Los Gurkos Kurzfilmfestival
Hi! I created an article in English and then in Geman, but the last one (https://en.wikipedia.org/Los_Gurkos_Kurzfilmfestival) was saved under the English site. This may be the problem as you wrote me "Perhaps you intended to create this at de:Los Gurkos Kurzfilmfestival instead? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:16, 10 September 2013 (UTC)"
What should I do? As I still have Spanish and French versions of the same article?
Thank you!
Elgermes Elgermes (talk) 14:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- If you click on the link I provided you (de:Los Gurkos Kurzfilmfestival), it will bring you to the proper German Misplaced Pages page. On that page, you will find a link titled Verfasse einen Artikel zum Thema (Create an article on this topic). Click on that link to create the article on the German Misplaced Pages. For the French and Spanish articles, start at the French Misplaced Pages homepage or the Spanish Misplaced Pages homepage respectively, and create the new articles as you would do at the English Misplaced Pages. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 14:43, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I would like to delete this article "https://de.wikipedia.org/Los_Gurkos_Short_Film_Festival" in order only to keep this one "https://de.wikipedia.org/Los_Gurkos_Kurzfilmfestival". he first one triggered the problem you found. How can I do this?
Thanks Elgermes Elgermes (talk) 16:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I've given you all the help I can with the German Misplaced Pages. I don't speak sufficient German to navigate the user interface there to figure out how to request an article deletion. Since you do speak German (presumably, since you wrote an article in the language), you should be able to request the required help there to figure out your issue. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I will, thank you! Elgermes (talk) 21:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Your The Perfect Gentlemen edit
Dear wikiDan61,
I am responding to your notice to me about posting an article on The Perfect Gentlemen. Thank you for sending the links for the reasons that you tried to revert back to forwarding the article to Perfect Gentlemen. I wish you had done that prior to just editing it back with the comment that we did note , as I was unaware of the guidelines which you provided. Otherwise I would have allowed for your edit reverting back to take place. As someone new to the page, I was unaware of the guidelines regarding musical groups. However, I would disagree that we are not notable enough to warrant an article.
Winning the National Harmony Sweepstakes competition in 2002 would warrant inclusion (based on #9 of criteria for musicians and ensembles). The National Harmony Sweepstakes competition is now in its 30th year. In addition, we have received plenty of coverage in national press and on television for international performance tours (#4 of criteria for musicians and ensembles).
Yes, we are not a household name, but we have been working in the fine arts market for more than 6 years and it is important that there is a distinction between a defunct R&B group and what we have been doing for almost 15 years.
I am happy to have you again put in an edit if you wish to revert the article back to a forward to "perfect gentlemen", as I should not be the one to write this article. However, in the future, should someone else place one, it would be appreciated if what we have been doing for the last 15 years would not be dismissed as not notable. On the contrary, there are very few groups who have done what we have done in the genre of what we do. We are not asking for accolades, just a citation.
Thank you.
Theperfectgentlemen (talk) 22:40, 10 September 2013 (UTC)theperfectgentlemenTheperfectgentlemen (talk) 22:40, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- This is what is known at Misplaced Pages as the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle. You boldly edited a page. I reverted your edit. Now we're discussing. Right according to plan.
- So, about your group: you claim to pass criterion #9 of WP:BAND (has won or placed in a major music competition). I would argue that the National Harmony Sweepstakes would not be included in the category of "major music competitions". Lacking its own Misplaced Pages article is one sign that this might be the case. A failure to find any independent coverage of this festival is another sign. (All the coverage I can find is from groups that have been part of the competition, which means that it might be notable among its participants, but not to the general public.) You also claim to have received "plenty of national coverage". The name of your group is rather generic and makes for very difficult searching, so I am unable to verify that claim. If you can provide some actual concrete citations to this national coverage, that would greatly help. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 16:52, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Dan,
really appreciate the feedback and will do as you suggest.
Best,
Tony, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonytestly (talk • contribs) 12:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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Shia Islam
Apologies, I am disengaging for now. The other editor changed info in a way that makes it look like existing sources support it, which I consider to be vandalism. I had attempted to engage the other user in my editing comments and at Talk:Ali, to which they did not respond. I strongly encourage you and other editors to look at PJDF2367's edits as they appear to not understand NPOV nor reliable sources. Edward321 (talk) 14:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, as far as I can see, PJDF was only changing images and captions, which, while sourced, are hardly the authoritative content of the article. And I don't see any evidence of your edit comments making any attempt to engage meaningfully with PJDF regarding your reasons for reverting. You first revert gave no reason whatsoever, and subsequent reverts (here and here and here) gave either perfunctory comments (rv removal of sourced material) or no information at all, while not at all addressing PJDF's concerns that the image was improper and the association with Alawites wrong. I have no opinion on the facts of the dispute (I know little to nothing about Islam and its variants), but I do know that you did not properly attempt to communicate with this user in this exchange. If you have found the user problematic in other discussions, that should also be addressed in a proper discussion, but mutliple vaguely described reverts does not quite make the mark. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 15:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Mind Blown (feat. Timbaland & Adrian Visby)
Dear WikiDan61, could you put another notice on top of the article instead the Speedy Delation. Please, this single will be released next Tuesday. Could you help me and put a notice that the article will be deleted in the next 4 days or so and not the speedy. Please spare me the chance. (GowanusBeats (talk) 12:17, 19 September 2013 (UTC))
- I have placed the tag I have placed. If you contest the deletion, note this on the article's talk page. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 12:54, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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HI Dan61, I believe the page privo is all fact and neutral now if you can look at it when you have time. Thanks CBE — Preceding unsigned comment added by CBE Productions (talk • contribs) 22:22, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for reverting the vandal on my user page. Edward321 (talk) 12:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Galliane
Hello WikiDan61,
I have just posted on the Talk page of Galliane Frog and would like to reiterate my comments here. The purpose of the article is not promotional but informational. Galliane is a very important invention taking shape in the world of modern bow making for which the Misplaced Pages entry should serve as an initial point of reference. The bow maker, Benoit Rolland, has had no part in the authorship of this article. The article provides a definition of what a frog is, identifies Galliane's relativity to the history of bow making, and provides an overview of its technical and musical elements. I have also provided additional references and external links, which seek to support the information presented in this article. My interests are not commercial and should not be flagged as such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arveilchristine (talk • contribs) 15:59, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Misapplication of BLPPROD
I just undid a WP:BLPPROD that you did - you seemed to be making the same mistake that I was making until recently, and that is applying the BLPPROD to an article that has a non-WP:RS reference (Jerry Langton). It's a kind of counter-intuitive aspect of these prods; you're only allowed to place them if there are no references, although once properly placed, they can only be removed with an RS. It's an understandable error, and one that destroys no articles that don't deserve it, but it's still not quite proper. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:41, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Kewl userbox
Hello, WikiDan61 … thnx fer drawing my attention to the Google userbox, which I have added to my parent user's page.
- I fergot to mention … please consider adding a {{Old prod full}} when you {{PRODBLP}} an article … I usually add one when I add a {{Prod-2}}. :-)
Happy Editing! — 96.231.12.212 (talk · contribs) 02:38, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
My edit of "Length Contraction"
Hi, WikiDan61, You said, "Since the theory of relativity tells us that all measurements are relative to the reference frame of the measurer (the observer), the concept of actual physical dimension change is meaningless in this discussion."
I've studied the debate on length contraction for some 18 years now, i.e., whether it is only an observer dependent phenomenon (lengths varying with relative velocity of all possible observers) or whether it refers to a physical change in lengths of physical objects. When a reader searches "length contraction" and finds the Wiki version, the text *assumes* that the length of objects is determined by the relative velocity of observational frames, ignoring the above debate in favor of the special relativity version... that length is determined by observation... that there is no physical world independent of observation... that idealism ( an observer dependent "world") trumps realism (objects with intrinsic properties independent of observation) because that is mainstream relativity (and no criticism of that is "allowed." Therefore I hope you will reconsider censoring out my edit which recognizes that debate. Thanks. (LCcritic (talk) 19:30, 7 October 2013 (UTC))
- I'm not sure I understand the nature of the debate to which you're referring. Is it your position that an object, as it moves faster and faster, actually becomes physically foreshortened? And if that is the case, one must ask, faster relative to what? If I, as an astronaut in a spaceship, leave earth and accelerate to a velocity of 0.8c (relative to the earth's inertial frame), and then cease accelerating, am I moving at 0.8c relative to earth, or is the earth moving at 0.8c relative to me? And if I am the stationary object, does my length change? Or if I am the moving object, does then my length change? The theory of relativity tells me that the inertial frame which I choose defines the situation (i.e. things are relative to their inertial frame). I, as the astronaut, am not moving relative to myself, so I cannot observe a change in length. But an observer on earth, using that inertial frame, sees me as a length-contracted object due to my velocity relative to him. If you can explain to me your side of this debate, I'd be glad to hear it, but unless it is couched in actual science (and not pseudo-science or misunderstood science) I suspect it will find no place in Misplaced Pages. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 13:15, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- PS: Actually, the length contraction article already contains a section (Length contraction#Reality of length contraction) that addresses the "real vs. apparent" contraction question. I'm not sure anything more needs to be said on the subject. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 13:26, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, Can you please leave "The Bill Of Gates" page up until Wednesday? I need it to teach a class about fake articles on wikipedia...
Thanks
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- Nope, we don't do that. See WP:POINT. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:53, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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Subjective vs objective length contraction
WikiDan61, The length contraction debate is about actual vs apparent contraction. One side (mainstream special relativity) insists that physical objects actually contract as theoretically seen/measured to contract from relativistically moving frames. The other side says that it is only an an apparent contraction, totally observer dependent (the long-standing criticism denied by mainstream relativity theorists.) Length contraction language always says something like "for observer A" (moving relative to the object) an object is so long, (contracted in proportion to relative velocity) while "for observer B" at rest with (in same frame as) the object, it is so much longer, called its "proper length."
So if a (future, theoretical) spaceship is approaching Earth at say 86.6% of light speed, Earth will appear to have a measured contracted diameter (in the direction of the approach) of about 4000 miles. But as the ship slows down and enters Earth's orbit, that diameter will then be measured to be its "proper length" of just under 8000 miles. Of course, Earth's diameter did not change, so the mainstream claim of "actual, physical contraction" is clearly false.
Conversely, lets say the ship, on approach is measured from Earth as 10 meters long (contracted.)Then, after coming to rest in Earth's orbit, it is measured to be 20 meters long. It did not actually expand as it entered Earth's frame. It was always 20 meters long and only *appeared* contracted to half that intrinsic (as built) length because of the change in frames of reference... same as Earth was always about 8000 miles in diameter, not "actually, physically" contracted to 4000 miles.
Relativity insists that all frames of reference are equally valid, and that "length is not invariant" (it varies with frame of reference) so that would mean that physical objects change in length with every possible relativistic frame from which they can be measured. This is a false claim of special relativity.
Neither the FAQ section or the text on the "reality of length contraction" addresses this subjective vs objective debate. Please reconsider your decision. Thanks. 63.155.175.125 (talk) 18:33, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm no expert in relativistic physics, but my research indicates that the concept you are discussing falls into the realm of fringe theories. I would suggest that you open a discussion on the article's talk page, or perhaps on WT:WikiProject Physics, or WT:WikiProject Physics/Taskforces/Relativity. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 20:15, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi WikiDan61, I am sorry to see that DVdm considers me an anti-relativity crank. I am not. I accept the constant speed of light through space (and GR's predictive power over Newtonian gravity theory.)
The essence of my criticism addresses the debate about whether or not length contraction describes physical "shrinkage" of objects (or the distances between them) or merely the subjective "point of view" differences in how different frames of reference might observe and measure lengths.
Here are three examples of this issue from Wiki texts with my comments inserted: (Regarding the Bell Paradox): "For instance, Bell argued that the length contraction of objects as well as the lack of length contraction between objects in frame S can be explained using Relativistic electromagnetism. The distorted electromagnetic intermolecular fields cause moving objects to contract, or to become stressed if hindered from doing so. In contrast, no such forces act on the space between objects."
Yet the supposed contraction of Earth's diameter in my example to you is clearly not a compacting of Earths atoms or molecules to result in a physical contraction to 4000 miles, as *observed* by the ship (approaching at 86.6% of light speed.) And certainly the distances between bodies in space does not contract "as measured by" relativistic frames traveling through space.
(Regarding the Ehrenfest paradox): "Another famous paradox is the Ehrenfest paradox, which proves that the concept of rigid bodies is not compatible with relativity, and reduces the applicability of Born rigidity."
This claims that there is no such thing as rigid bodies in relativity... that, using my Earth example again, the length of Earth's diameter varies with relativistic frames measuring it. Yet Earth's diameter does not change with every possible velocity and direction of frames theoretically measuring it.
(Regarding the "real or not" argument): "See for example Physics FAQ: "People sometimes argue over whether the Lorentz-Fitzgerald contraction is "real" or not... here's a short answer: the contraction can be measured, but the measurement is frame dependent. Whether that makes it "real" or not has more to do with your choice of words than the physics."
This claims that objects do not have intrinsic lengths as formed (or built, in the case of my spaceship example.) The "varying length" of Earth's diameter (as above) is definitely not "real" just because measurements of it taken from relativistic frames would differ. It is not just a semantic "choice of words" issue.
Please convey this message to DVdm and reconsider the judgement that I am a crank. I am sorry that my 18 years of relativity study and choice of usernames makes me a suspected crackpot. I am an SR critic, and good science thrives on criticism... usually. (I have in fact taught university "Philosophy of Science.") Thanks again for reconsidering. LCcritic LCcritic (talk) 19:30, 9 October 2013 (UTC)