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Royal College, Colombo

Hi, Qwyrxian. I didn't fully understand you statement on "Unambiguously". I mean when I do a name search on Google, I get large amounts of hits for several names, yet the others I can't find same numbers. As in these names are used in a very lesser extent than the others and the rations are close to 1:1000. Need your view on this ! Cossde (talk) 14:35, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I've responded on the article's talk page. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Thx Cossde (talk) 17:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

We are back to where we where in Oct 2012. Really need your input. Thx Cossde (talk) 16:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Need Some Help

Hi fellow editor, could you caste your experienced eye over Akhand Kirtani Jatha, Damdami Taksal and a few other Sikh related articles I'm looking at. The amount of flannel and refernces I have to keep removing that fail WP:Reliable is rising to epic proportions. Thanks SH 08:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Could you take a look at these revisions. I think WP:Competence is definitely a possible issue. ThanksSH 06:44, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Apologies, but I don't see what's wrong with that revision. I mean, yeah, the grammar isn't great, but that's true for lots of our editors outside of inner circle countries. Can you tell me more specifically what I should be seeing?

As for a more general look, I'll try to start in somewhere between a few days and few weeks. I'm in a busy period for my job, and it leaves me with less time on WP and, more importantly, less mental energy to handle tasks more complicated than patrolling my watchlist or handling routine admin tasks. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:24, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I think the problem is more with sourcing and WP:Reliable. For example, on the Damdami Taksal most academics like Oberoi and Eleanor Nisbett can't find research into the existence of the organisation when it claims to have existed. Only the website of the organisation confirms this. Allso, overtly long sentences and changes of sentences from Sikh Khalistan movement to Sikh freedom movement (the usual WP:Weasel you get on these articles. I understand the patrolling but. I haven't had much time of late, and that's why I am horrified when I come back, how much articles degrade. I have now come to the conclusion that there maybe a WP:Competence issue as well, with one editor in particular. ThanksSH 11:17, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I am from Canada and I consider myself to write objectively and fair including all the details necessary for a neutral view; I also cite various different sources extensively to ensure that I am writing accurate information. The user Sikh-history has been bugging me and reverting back months of work, leaving behind lots of grammar, formatting, removal of referenced content, etc he first claimed I made this or that wp: violation but then after I kept proving him wrong he began criticizing my grammar. Now his recent reversion of the Sikh page is quite absurd and he continues to degrading various pages leaving others to clean up after him. His arguments include saying such things as the Damdami Taksal Rehat Maryada is not a significant source for getting information about the Damdami Taksal Rehate Maryada. He has previously been accused of distorting sikh history and making non neutral one sided articles by many different users other than myself, eg the Diet in Sikhism page where he removed all the Sikh quotes from the Guru Granth Sahib that criticized eating meat. He continues to attack me personally rather than deal with the issue which I would say is a clear violation of WP:NPA. Jujhar.pannu (talk) 19:38, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

If I had a penny of being accused of distorting Sikh-history, I'd be a millionaire. Interesting how here you stopped short of a 3rd revert. Read WP:Game my friend. Thanks SH 20:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

SH's reversion looks correct to me: it wasn't grammar problems that he was reverting, it was changes in basic, factual information, the removal of proper wikilinks, and formatting. As for the points you raise above...yes, in fact, the removal of quotations from a specific guru are probably an improvement, because such quotations are not independent, nor are they necessary representative of the whole of the religion. What we need--what we always need on Misplaced Pages--are secondary sources, independent of the religion, that analyze the religion as a whole. We can use primary sources some times, but we should generally minimize their use.

I'm going to revert you on Sikh, and then you'll need to discuss your suggested changes on the article talk page (not a discussion I'll be involved in). Qwyrxian (talk) 22:27, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Note

I have commented on your query on the talk page of Shanta Rani Sharma. A notable academic work should and would have been reviewed in academia far earlier than five years after publication. --Zananiri (talk) 19:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I've sent the article to AfD. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:28, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Please have a look at this as well, created by the same user. Six lines about the subject, followed by a dozen about his illustrious family - http://en.wikipedia.org/Girija_Shankar_Sharma#Co-Edited_works-- This one is longer. but just decribes the subject's career. I can't see any notability per Wiki, really, just name-dropping. http://en.wikipedia.org/Bhanu_Prakash_SharmaZananiri (talk) 19:57, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

On the first one, I've tagged it for notability; the main question is if those works are widely cited; I've left a note on the article's talk page. On the second one...I'm not sure; being a full Professor helps, have been a Course Director helps...but it's still not quite there yet. Feel free to take whatever action you think is needed. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:58, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Janjua talk page

Hi, I'd already collapsed one version of this at Talk:Janjua. They left me the not uncommon pleasantries on my talk page (since reverted). I'm loathe to collapse again and would appreciate the thoughts of others. - Sitush (talk) 23:34, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

I've just reverted on the article talk page. If they want to 1) play nice and 2) write succinctly, then they can join the party. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks. - Sitush (talk) 23:49, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Avatar

I get the impression that Yoonadue is an Avatar... (no link; the new notification-system will also notify him. Canvassing has been made very easy; just drop a name on a third persons talk page, and the person in question will also be notified). How does a new Wikipedian know about spam and full citations? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:54, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

By "Avatar", do you mean "sockpuppet"? If so, who do you think it is a sockpuppet of? As for your other question, yes, those are somewhat unusual things for a new user to say...but notice that he has misused the word "spam", since he removed a source in one part of an article but not another. It is possible that this is a previous editor returning, or it could be an IP editor who's just now become a named editor...but is there anything terribly wrong with the edits? Yes, the removal of the source was wrong, but that could be simple error. Is this editor repeating problems that a previous problem editor had done? Qwyrxian (talk) 08:16, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

No, nothing terribly wrong. I also wouldn't know who it could be. But editing at India-related articles is not doing the best for "assuming good faith", because of all the "discussions" and edit-warring. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 14:07, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

But turning "wrong". I guess you're following the Hinduism-page; have a look at his argumentation, both the edit-summaries and the talkpage. Either incompetent (which I don't believe), or searching for arguments. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Appreciate your work - thank you!

I hope it's Ok for me to say how much I appreciate your work in moderating the disruptions by 75. 86.161.251.139 (talk) 13:33, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

article on huna people

hi i would like to bring to your notice article about Huna people in which i suspect vandalism as it creates confusion with another article named White Huns also named as Hephthalite Empire, people are directly copying and pasting content from white huns to huna people article but when both are different topic and article. i request you to please look into this matter and resolve it. Sushilkumarmishra (talk) 07:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, before we get to that, are you using both User:Sushikumar and User:Sushilkumarmishra? If so, you need to immediately stop that, and use only one account, per WP:SOCK. Second, there was just one user, about 4 months ago, who copy an pasted that info (I don't know if it was from another WP article, or from off WP, but the bracketed numbers made it obvious it was copied). So the solution was easy: just remove it, because regardless of whether or not the two groups are the same (something about which I know absolutely nothing), copying things into Misplaced Pages is always unacceptable. If you see a copyright violation, just remove it immediately; you don't need to tag it or notify a bunch of other editors. Is there any other action you wanted to happen there? Qwyrxian (talk) 08:47, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

hi User:Sushilkumarmishra and User:Sushilmishra both are my ids but not User:Sushilkumar i have create new 1 because i was unable to log in using my current id. moving on about those edits so with your permission i can remove those copy-past thing on Huna people artical because if i remove it now then some 1 might undo it and i might undo again which might lead to incident which took place on artical IndiaSushilkumarmishra (talk) 08:55, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

thnx for the help there, and about two ids rest assure that its is not being misused i have been using wikipedia since 2006 and started editing since 2007 and i can say you a lot this articals have acctually changed and changed in the sense lot of misinformation is stuffed so i request you to please have look at many of the artical dealing with history and miltary Sushilkumarmishra (talk) 09:12, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, as long as from now on you only use one account, that's fine; just put a note on your current user page that states that you used to use the other account. As for Huna people...well, yeah, that's what happens on Misplaced Pages. People add bad stuff. We (editors like you and I) remove it. We or others add good stuff, and then other users build from that. If a user were to re-add copyrighted info, we'd block that user very soon; if it was done by unregistered users (IPs), we'd protect the pages if needed.

As for your more general concern...yes, Misplaced Pages has a lot of articles that need work. We've got over 4 million articles, and at least 80% of them need significant amounts of work. You're welcome to start working on any of the ones that interest you. If you have questions, feel free to ask. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:28, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

The Kashmiri anon is back

65.88.88.203 (talk · contribs) is back doing their daft stuff on talk pages and removing valid See also links on Kashmir. - Sitush (talk) 00:24, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

And 108.29.95.63 (talk · contribs) is obviously the same person but their contribution are now five days old. - Sitush (talk) 00:26, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

I've blocked 65 for a month; I'll leave 108 for until it starts up again. I've added a few of the targets to my watchlist, which might enable me to see them as they happen and block faster. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:46, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

help

hi I have added recently template of history of south asia and indian subcontinent to relavent topics as in like topics mentioned in that template but there is this 1 user User:Pied Hornbill who has been on reverting it back stating reason in few as template dumping and in other as too many templates....so I want to knw is there any Misplaced Pages policy about too many template or template dumping because I think those articles are related to south asia and indian subcontinent so they should have history of south asia template attached and that template is this

History of South Asia
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you can find those articles mentioned in this template too....so please look into this matter. and all this articles are related to indian state of Karnataka's history which is part of indian subcontinent and south asia Sushilkumarmishra (talk) 07:50, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Have a conversation with that user. There's no particular policy on the matter; too many templates is bad, and we don't want a template for every possible way of organizing info, but some may be important. After you were reverted, the best thing you could do would be to start a conversation on the article's talk page, not just revert back to your preferred version.

Also, didn't we just talk about you not using two different accounts? Why are you still using Sushilkumarmishra and Sushilmishra? Qwyrxian (talk) 08:05, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

wel tnx for info but on that user talk page you can find tht user has been doing it for long as in like reverting edits made by other users and currently I am using 1 id tht is this 1 and I have mentioned about me having 2 ids in my user page Sushilkumarmishra (talk) 08:10, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

On the user id, my mistake, I misread the times. On the other user, not a single person has complained about his reverts. I'll tell you, at least 80% of my edits are probably reverts, if you checked, because a lot of what I do is revert bad edits by others. Now, I'm not saying your edits are bad, but I am saying that when you add something new to an article, and someone else reverts it, the responsibility is on you to start a discussion with that user on the article's talk page (or, sometimes on the user's talk page; since he reverted you here across many articles, that may be easier). Pied Hornbill gave a specific reason for the revert; I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but the revert was done in good faith. As I said, please go discuss the matter with him. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:07, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

About Government of India

Every Country has their negatives all cannot be part of a generic article which could affect the growth or view of other of a country, That is against the country sovereignty. Kindly ignore content wich could affect mass people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Praveenant (talk • contribs) 08:53, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Looking at your contributions I see you are talking about Government of India. And, simply put, you're entirely wrong. Misplaced Pages's job, like that of any encyclopedia, is to provide a complete picture of what reliable sources say about a topic. One of the things that many, many reliable sources talk about w.r.t. the Indian government is it's problems with corruption. Please do not remove information simply because you don't like it. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:04, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Page curation editor back again

The user mentioned here is back again and marking pages reviewed when they have issues. Examples from looking over their 25 most recently reviewed pages of this writing: DYXS-TV has no sources, Treaty of Accession 1972, Treaty of Accession 1979, Treaty of Accession 1994 have bare urls for refs. As you predicted, the week long block made no impression. May I suggest a block until they respond on their talk page? They may also have English language competence issues, given that their user page does not indicate that English is their first language: User:Lgcsmasamiya. They may have overestimated their language abilities, not a capital crime but it makes more work for others. Perhaps someone could post a message in Spanish, which does seem to be their native tongue. Thanks. JanetteDoe (talk) 19:23, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

I didn't see all of these,it will not happen again (sorry for my bad english) Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 19:34, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Lgcsmasamiya, thank you for joining this conversations. If your English is not very good, why are you reviewing new articles? There are things that you can do here even if you're not a high level English speaker. For example, the work that you've been doing in creating new articles about Mexican politicians is very helpful. If you create an article, another editor will review it, and they can help with some basic problems. As long as the articles you are creating are not really bad (and they look ok to me), that will probably be easier and more helpful for the encyclopedia.

Would you be willing to agree to stop reviewing new pages? That was our main concern last time. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:09, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, i will try to do my best Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 21:59, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

AE appeal

See WP:AE#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by User:Neo. I'm notifying you since this is an appeal against the result of an AE which you filed. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 20:06, 1 August 2013 (UTC)