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::::Perform a Google search, its a fact, sorry. As to your political POV, sorry. UNINVOLVED for me.However, have yuo ever lived in that town? Do you really know ALL of the people there?] (]) 00:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC) | ::::Perform a Google search, its a fact, sorry. As to your political POV, sorry. UNINVOLVED for me.However, have yuo ever lived in that town? Do you really know ALL of the people there?] (]) 00:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::::This isn't my political POV being documented, it is theirs. Can you provide proof to the contrary? I can provide much proof to support my case, not limited to this one issue. Shall we include their UNANIMOUS decision in January to declare that the SCOTUS and it's POV does not apply to said town? I call ] on you. On a side note, if you believe in personal responsibility, we have something in common. My daughter is going to be born Monday. I plan to tell her who is responsible for the climatic hellhole she will be living in. No wonder you freaks want to kill us now. Our children are going to be pissed at YOU, Coal Town Guy. That's NPOV. There is a reason that all of the military alliances are predicting nuclear war soon. Man-made climate change. You are responsible for that. My daughter will be made to know who supported nothing being done to stop it. As long as you made a buck, eh? ] (]) 00:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
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- Please familiarize yourself with Misplaced Pages policy. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted multiple times. Please read the following policy guidelines WP:NPOV, WP:NOT, WP:V and WP:UNDUE. Coinmanj (talk) 19:33, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- The POV was removed concerning disposition of the town once they start carrying out their WELL-PUBLICIZED threats to exterminate our families. The remaining text is pure fact. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 19:38, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Misplaced Pages articles, as you did to Gilberton, Pennsylvania. Doing so violates Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Kubigula (talk) 19:39, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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below this notice, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:40, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I removed the POV. What's the beef? The rest is verifiable fact. Not enough sources? You auto-remove any edits that reference youtube, so that's out, I can provide about a thousand background articles on this town showing that my last edit was PURE fact, with no independent analysis. Of course, I can give a shitload of sources to show that the entire town supports him, but that would REALLY spam the page. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 19:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Regardless of the merits of your edits, edit warring by continually reverting is not acceptable. See WP:3RR for details. I'm willing to unblock if you agree to discuss the matter on the talk page instead of reverting again. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm willing to do this, but I won't be satisfied until these details are on the page. The other person could have edited out the last bit that was POV (about the town being wiped off the map, nerve gas being appropriate to save US soldier's lives due to the fact that the entire town will be in rebellion, etc). I removed ALL POV with the final edit that you blocked me on. Are you wanting to suppress pertinent information on this town that should go into the historical record? Removals of such truthful information can also be considered POV as well. Let's take it to talk for now. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll unblock you on the condition you don't re-add the material without agreement from other users. Try proposing an addition on the talk page and getting feedback on it there. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:55, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be willing to discuss things on the talk page as well, however I think we will end up needing a 3O or some other form of conflict resolution in the end because I see no reason why the info should be on the page at all, at least given what I've see of it in the media. Coinmanj (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- The entire town supports this guy's position, and most of them after further research seem to be hardcore, and will be shooting at our families. What I just said is not POV, and is straight from their own mouths. The point is that the entire town supports Civil War and extermination of anywhere from 50-75% of the population of this country (everyone they disagree with). This information needs to be on the permanent record of this town. People need to be warned away from traveling there, moving there, and doing business there. Screw them. "to suppress Insurrections" is NOT superseded by ANY Amendment. When such towns go on record, the record SHOULD reflect such. They are threatening our families with a nazi-style extermination, I wouldn't shed a tear for anyone in this town after the shooting starts. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 20:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- PS: I will continue to be anonymous on this. I'm allergic to Anthrax and Ricin. The record is clear on what these kind of people do to their enemies. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 20:08, 24 July 2013
- I'd be willing to discuss things on the talk page as well, however I think we will end up needing a 3O or some other form of conflict resolution in the end because I see no reason why the info should be on the page at all, at least given what I've see of it in the media. Coinmanj (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll unblock you on the condition you don't re-add the material without agreement from other users. Try proposing an addition on the talk page and getting feedback on it there. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:55, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm willing to do this, but I won't be satisfied until these details are on the page. The other person could have edited out the last bit that was POV (about the town being wiped off the map, nerve gas being appropriate to save US soldier's lives due to the fact that the entire town will be in rebellion, etc). I removed ALL POV with the final edit that you blocked me on. Are you wanting to suppress pertinent information on this town that should go into the historical record? Removals of such truthful information can also be considered POV as well. Let's take it to talk for now. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Regardless of the merits of your edits, edit warring by continually reverting is not acceptable. See WP:3RR for details. I'm willing to unblock if you agree to discuss the matter on the talk page instead of reverting again. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I removed the POV. What's the beef? The rest is verifiable fact. Not enough sources? You auto-remove any edits that reference youtube, so that's out, I can provide about a thousand background articles on this town showing that my last edit was PURE fact, with no independent analysis. Of course, I can give a shitload of sources to show that the entire town supports him, but that would REALLY spam the page. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 19:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Word of mouth is not considered a reliable source. Unless you can point to significant secondary sources (primarily news reports), then it simply can't be added to the site. I found 2 online articles (from local media) mentioning the controversy, however, this is an encyclopedia. It's not a news site, it isn't for opinion or soapboxes or publishing the full record of each day's goings-on. It also doesn't included every nut job public employee who has ever said anything controversial. Unless and until there is significant coverage, given my understanding of Misplaced Pages policy, there's no point in adding it - especially if this is just a single controversy and will not have a lasting effect on the town. Coinmanj (talk) 20:16, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting, just a search on the town in Google resulted in six articles showing the town in rebellion. This isn't going to blow over. They aren't going to get any new blood to move into the town with differing views. I just hope they start shooting soon. They will find that they have underestimated how well armed Liberals are. They threaten our families. Once the shooting begins, they will find their families ARE NOT exempt. That's what Civil War is. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 20:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Wishing for potential death is by far a POV that has no place in any article. Relying on a Google search to turn up results not in any way profound, especially when any string of numbers or letters can return hundreds of pages. Again, its a POV and per WP:SOAP has NO place here.Coal town guy (talk) 02:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- You have a problem with people shooting back when this town keeps it's promises? Why? I'll defend my family by any means necessary. Those threatening CIVIL WAR threaten OUR families. I agree with you, that the POV of the entire town in question, Gilberton, Pennsylvania, is threatening OUR families with DEATH. I have a problem with anyone would willingly let that happen to them without shooting back. CIVIL WAR is what it is. Got a problem with that? Stop threatening US. Until then, I want your town targeted for a VX Gas strike for when you feel froggy. Foreign Treaties DO NOT apply to "to suppress Insurrections". I wouldn't shed a tear for the people of Gilberton, they wouldn't shed a tear for US. WP:SOAP does not seem to apply to the proposed text. I bet I can find one that does show your actions to be abusive though. How about WP:CENSOR for starters. How about Strawman for your statement on Google. I had a whole list of other official links to the abuses going on in keeping this information off the article, I am in the process of finding those links and will start accusing you of those abuses, as it is clear that you are using the framework to suppress noteworthy material from going on this town's entry by invoking other rules. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 23:39, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Wishing for potential death is by far a POV that has no place in any article. Relying on a Google search to turn up results not in any way profound, especially when any string of numbers or letters can return hundreds of pages. Again, its a POV and per WP:SOAP has NO place here.Coal town guy (talk) 02:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting, just a search on the town in Google resulted in six articles showing the town in rebellion. This isn't going to blow over. They aren't going to get any new blood to move into the town with differing views. I just hope they start shooting soon. They will find that they have underestimated how well armed Liberals are. They threaten our families. Once the shooting begins, they will find their families ARE NOT exempt. That's what Civil War is. 74.120.133.55 (talk) 20:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Word of mouth is not considered a reliable source. Unless you can point to significant secondary sources (primarily news reports), then it simply can't be added to the site. I found 2 online articles (from local media) mentioning the controversy, however, this is an encyclopedia. It's not a news site, it isn't for opinion or soapboxes or publishing the full record of each day's goings-on. It also doesn't included every nut job public employee who has ever said anything controversial. Unless and until there is significant coverage, given my understanding of Misplaced Pages policy, there's no point in adding it - especially if this is just a single controversy and will not have a lasting effect on the town. Coinmanj (talk) 20:16, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Perform a Google search, its a fact, sorry. As to your political POV, sorry. UNINVOLVED for me.However, have yuo ever lived in that town? Do you really know ALL of the people there?Coal town guy (talk) 00:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- This isn't my political POV being documented, it is theirs. Can you provide proof to the contrary? I can provide much proof to support my case, not limited to this one issue. Shall we include their UNANIMOUS decision in January to declare that the SCOTUS and it's POV does not apply to said town? I call WP:CENSOR on you. On a side note, if you believe in personal responsibility, we have something in common. My daughter is going to be born Monday. I plan to tell her who is responsible for the climatic hellhole she will be living in. No wonder you freaks want to kill us now. Our children are going to be pissed at YOU, Coal Town Guy. That's NPOV. There is a reason that all of the military alliances are predicting nuclear war soon. Man-made climate change. You are responsible for that. My daughter will be made to know who supported nothing being done to stop it. As long as you made a buck, eh? 74.120.133.55 (talk) 00:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Perform a Google search, its a fact, sorry. As to your political POV, sorry. UNINVOLVED for me.However, have yuo ever lived in that town? Do you really know ALL of the people there?Coal town guy (talk) 00:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC)