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:Your timing is uncanny. Still, it's good to have a memorial to the 15 who died in 1937, and the events of yesterday will have people looking for other similar disasters: again,. it's best that those who died be remembered to the present day. It should be added to ]. '''<font face="Arial">] <small>]</small></font>''' 01:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC) :Your timing is uncanny. Still, it's good to have a memorial to the 15 who died in 1937, and the events of yesterday will have people looking for other similar disasters: again,. it's best that those who died be remembered to the present day. It should be added to ]. '''<font face="Arial">] <small>]</small></font>''' 01:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


==Estadunidense==

What you should realize is that these two users are Brazilian leftists, trying to defend the spread this word via Misplaced Pages. Wiki-PT have a large influx of communists, socialists and left-lists using your structure for spreading ideological ideas (articles of politics at Wiki-PT are a disgrace, totally advocate a political vision and always attack the other), and of course, they come here as well. Any Brazilian acquainted in politics (few people) know that the word "Estadunidense" is used only for fanatics anti-US or ignorant who do not know the political meaning of this word, and just talk because they read somewhere. You will not find this word in any common and serious Brazilian media, only radical blogs and a few media organizations that have strong links with the left. ] (]) 21:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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Goings on at Ayurveda

Hi Acroterian, I'm wondering if the account you recently blocked is related to another . Perhaps it's coincidental, but both have a fondness for copyright violation, editing the same article nearly simultaneously, with what I'm taking to be an agenda. Thanks for any light you, or a talk page stalker, can shed. 99.149.85.229 (talk) 20:08, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Hard to tell - I'll keep an eye on that account. They seem to have similar levels of English proficiency, but that's not very telling, and lots of people have reservations about homeopathic or traditional medical practices and don't understand WP policies on copyrights. I'm going to be on WP somewhat irregularly, so I may not be able to give it full attention. Acroterion (talk) 20:13, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Points taken, though I did find they also crossed paths at a little-edited article here . By the way, your responses here were excellent. 99.149.85.229 (talk) 20:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words. Andy's given good advice too. I see what you mean about the convergence of edits. We'll see whether they edit while Poldar is blocked, which would indicate that they are not autoblocked and therefore not using the same IP. It's the middle of the night in India, so nobody's likely to edit from there for a while. Acroterion (talk) 21:22, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, though the bonus there was his being addressed as respected AndyTheGrump. Kind of deflates the whole curmudgeon thing. 99.149.85.229 (talk) 21:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Dr. Potdar gets considerable credit for being polite, which is more than I can say for most edit warriors. Acroterion (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

9/11

(moved from some dim corner of my userspace) Hi i am not quite understanding this ruling on "original research" given that NO article can contain items not linked to original research, twice i have added information to articles pertaining to 9/11. Both of which were simply information that relates to things that a) are provable,not subject of themselves to debate as to veracity and thus not research b) because they are either explanations of something drawing upon alternate linked sources or scientific fact, they are clearly not original research c) a few people i have spoken to who edit articles have assured me that NO 9/11 items may be edited outside of officially endorsed explanations. So if this is the case can that be explained, and if it is not the case, please explain how un provable clearly false information is allowed. I refer to my first edit being related to the claim that debris pushed the walls apart by accumulation and consequently forcing walls open. That i need not truly explain, unless you require it,however suffice to say i simply pointed out that this is a theory and cannot be taken from the site as fact given that correct examination establish that to be highly improbable. The second edit obviously as seen by yourself (possibly the first was too) Was only to highlight the alternative timings given even official versions are not even set in stone. I would be grateful for an explanation on where i went wrong so i don't repeat the error on any other wiki article.

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Emergencycode66 (talkcontribs)

You've been adding your own personal views and analysis to Collapse of the World Trade Center. You can't do that, I can't do that, nobody can. You may only add content that can be referenced to reliable sources and which can be verified - these are fundamental policies. You can't just write your own discussion of the subject. Additionally, a YouTube video is not a reliable source: in fact, YouTube is usually a red flag, and a random video amounts to nothing more than a given person's point of view about AA 77. A bot (not a person) routinely removes YouTube links, because they are almost always copyright violations (Misplaced Pages policy prohibits such links), or they are original content subject to no editorial review that is worthless as a reference. Most things on the Internet are inadmissible as sources on Misplaced Pages, particularly on fringe topics, except to the extent that they describe the fringe theory. Misplaced Pages gives primary weight to peer-reviewed analysis and mainstream media, and lesser, proportional weight to outside viewpoints, and little or no weight to fringe points of view: this is policy, part of WP:NPOV. Misplaced Pages isn't a soapbox for conspiracy theorists or promoters of fringe theories on any subject: vaccines, AIDS, truthers, birthers, deathers, flat-earthers ... To help you in the future, please remember that your own analysis is not admissible, that you must provide references to reliable sources, and that you must gain consensus for your edits. Acroterion (talk) 02:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Help needed

The user 74.213.188.138,identified as a sock-puppet , keeps harassing me with his commentary on my personal talk page. Although I delete his comments from my talk page, he just restores them... --walkee 23:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I've blocked them for a week. Obviously, you're entitled to remove the harassment (or anything else) from your talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 23:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

ANI

Although you have not been named explicitly at ANI, you are implicitly being accused of assuming bad faith in the batch of idiom AfDs for comments like . Psychotropic sentence (talk) 03:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I know about the ANI post and have ignored it, since Ryulong seems mostly to be complaining that things aren't going his way and the ANI post hasn't gone his way either. I had a cordial discussion with him about the issues with the AfDs father up this page, and I assured him (and I now assure you) that I've reviewed each one individually and I think they're pointy and poorly considered nominations. Whether you or Ryulong think that is an assumption of bad faith is not my concern. Acroterion (talk) 11:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Paola De Luca Group Creative Intelligence

Hi I'm writing the page for Paola De Luca Group Creative Intelligence based on its marketing materials as part of an iterative development process. Is it possible to allow me to continue writing while I make the page more encyclopedic?

Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFuturistPDLG (talkcontribs) 12:14, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd suggest that you write it in your userspace in User:TheFuturistPDLG/sandbox. You may not copy material into any place in Misplaced Pages from a copyrighted source (or for that matter any source that is not unambiguously freely licensed or public domain), even if you intend to rewrite it. Please review WP:CORP (you need to show that the organization is notable), WP:YFA and given the initials in your username, WP:COI. Acroterion (talk) 12:25, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Where can I find the material which was deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFuturistPDLG (talkcontribs) 10:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

It was deleted, and I can't restore copyrighted material to Misplaced Pages. Please write without importing copyrighted text. Acroterion (talk) 11:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Tier-3

Hi,

The Tier-3 company page I created was deleted.

I'm not sure I agree - several of our competitors; such as Arcsight, Logrhythm have pages on Misplaced Pages ...

However, if the text was too promotional I have redrafted and reposted the content. What is there now is completely factual. Hope this time it is OK - but let me know.

Piers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Only1weasel (talkcontribs) 13:14, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

It was promotional. However, I deleted it primarily because there was no indication that the company was notable. The present version, while lacking the marketing release character, doesn't indicate notability either. It's also not referenced (referencing to third-party coverage of the firm is essential to establishing notability). Self-sourcing is of limited use, and of no use for notability. Acroterion (talk) 13:30, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

You're deleting information that shouldn't be deleted.

On the Page Waterford, Connecticut you have deleted information that I had just put back up after the page was vandalized by a user called: Polaron. This information is being posted as part of a project in an English class, your deleting will affect the students' grades. Please refrain from farther deletion. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 16pattonm (talkcontribs) 20:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Replied on their talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 20:25, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

You just said that a person made "criminal allegations" on somebody, that is not true, that information is on a police case in Waterford, Connecticut, meaning that he was not alleging anything, just explaining that the person was a suspect. Also, Polaron deleted mass amounts of information from the page,and the Misplaced Pages page explaining the policy on vandalism clearly states: " Vandalism includes the addition, removal, or other modification of the text or other material that is either humorous, nonsensical, a hoax, or that is of an offensive, humiliating, or otherwise degrading nature" (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_vandalism). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 16pattonm (talkcontribs) 20:33, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Polaron's removals were not vandalism: extraneous material is removed all the time when it isn't in compliance with sourcing, notability or appropriate emphasis. That's part of the editing process, and the burden is on the editor who adds the material to support it. At no time may any editor make criminal accusations without solid sourcing and in almost all cases, a conviction. If it happens again, people will have their editing privileges removed. Acroterion (talk) 20:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I assure you that all the information being posted on the page by the students is factual and have sources to indicate so, also, when a post doesn't have a source, normally a "Citation Needed" link will pop up before it is removed, that did not occur here. I will talk to the instructor and see when she can contact you, meanwhile, stop posting on my talk page about others' posts not having sources, that is not my responsibility it is theirs.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 16pattonm (talkcontribs)

It's the class's responsibility to edit in accordance with this website's rules. If you have sources that comply with Misplaced Pages policy, cite them, and I repeat: if any edits are made that make allegations of criminal activity, those editors will be blocked from editing: please pass that along to your instructor. In the meantime, please respect Misplaced Pages's requirements for sourcing and attribution. Acroterion (talk) 20:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your input (I agreed with you) and I will make sure that the information the students post are sourced and obey the rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 16pattonm (talkcontribs) 21:24, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, and best wishes on the project. Any questions, please ask. I can help with formatting references (it's not as easy as it ought to be) and with opinions on notability, etc. Acroterion (talk) 21:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

What exactly was wrong with the "allegations"? And what should the student do about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 16pattonm (talkcontribs) 22:01, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Read WP:BLP. Misplaced Pages doesn't permit editors to post defamatory or accusatory material on living persons, broadly construed, unless the material is well-documented, the crime and the perpetrator are notable on a national or global scale, the topic is neutrally written, and the material is completely, appropriately and scrupulously sourced to major third-party media with a reputation for fact-checking. Misplaced Pages is not a means of shaming people, and it does not report purely local events. Editors who break this rule are blocked from editing and the material is removed from public access. The article on Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev is an example of an acceptable article concerning someone accused of a crime: the subject is notable, the event is notable, the sources are from major publications that do fact-checking, and there were at last count 236 references. 99+% of murders, assaults and crimes do not pass Misplaced Pages's policy requirements for notability. Unsourced defamatory material is immediately removed and the editors warned. If it's reinserted without references or is poorly referenced, the editor can be blocked. If the references are acceptable, the material can (and often is) removed as undue weight, non-notable or tangential to the subject. See WP:BLP1E. Acroterion (talk) 22:25, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Addendum: the reason for all this is that Misplaced Pages is the fifth or sixth most viewed website on the planet. There is enormous potential for harm to people. Material that might be #7354 on a Google search under other circumstances will show up as number one or two when placed on Misplaced Pages. We don't know who editors are, whether their intentions are good, and whether they're posting the truth. The only way we can judge the veracity of content is to demand references to reliable sources that we can verify, and to demand that biographies (which in effect means any material on any living individual) be held to a high standard and edited with great caution. I've seen people try to post libel, or to use a factual event to smear or punish someone under the guise of "the truth must be told." Since Misplaced Pages is not an indiscriminate collection of information, such edits are unwelcome. Many victims of crimes do not want their experience to be prominently displayed on a widely-viewed website, closely linked to their name, and Misplaced Pages is not a means for shaming or branding otherwise unremarkable criminals.. Acroterion (talk) 00:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Richard Basciano

I just started a new page on Richard Basciano. Nobody has yet commented on it in any way. I post it here to get your thoughts. I was hoping other, smarter people would add flesh to the bones. The gentleman is an internet ghost. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 14:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

The Philly Inquirer had a lot on Basciano yesterday in their articles on the collapse. He's getting on in years, so that may account for the Internet drought. I'll see what I can find. Acroterion (talk) 15:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

dawn forces and britney

um, hello. i just wanted to add these two catagories in megaman x. can i? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princessbritneyaroma (talkcontribs) 21:32, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Do not add hoax materials.--Mr Fink (talk) 21:51, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there

It appears that people who have twinkle like me have been looking at recent pages for vandalism. Looks like if I keep up with anti-vandalism. I might earn rollback! DDreth 03:00, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

You're learning quickly and doing well. Please remember that there are a myriad of rules (like the one about editors blanking warnings), and that it's very easy to fall into a shoot-em-up attitude toward vandalism. Sometimes things that look like vandalism aren't. Remember that the wiki won't blow up if you don't catch something, and try not to taunt vandals. Boring escalating templates are best, otherwise you may end up feeding a troll. Remember to take time out to work on content: it's vital to understand how the place really works. Happy editing! Acroterion (talk) 03:15, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

we've made new friends

Looks like we have made some new friends in Connecticut. At least one of the kids on that article seems to get it, so I don't mind a little pranking. Gtwfan52 (talk) 18:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd rather give them a break. Teacher assigns Misplaced Pages editing project, kids have no idea what's appropriate or how extensively the project is monitored, cruftiness gets poured into article, everybody gets mad, and so on. School's out shortly, and as long as no BLP issues arise (some already have), I don't mind a little acting out. Acroterion (talk) 19:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Acidtron!

What did you mean by umm disruptions ?

Don't be obtuse: stop messing around with . (However, I might start going by Acidtron from now on, good name). Acroterion (talk) 01:38, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Messing around? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.105.21 (talk) 01:40, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Roland Baines worked VERY hard to get where he is today. It's sad that a human has to go and act like he doesn't exist. Not right! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.105.21 (talk) 01:44, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit to Talk:Elisabeth Sladen

Hi. Just wanted to say thanks for getting rid of that awful comment by 92.3.240.27. Have a good week! Liam 22:11, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome: I've blocked the IP for a week, but they've come back after two previous blocks, so I doubt this is the end of it. Acroterion (talk) 21:14, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Tania Fiolleau

Hi Acroterion,

I just created the Tania Fiolleau article. I noticed that you had deleted an article that previously occupied that title back in 2010, leaving an edit summary stating that the article was an "unreferenced controversial BLP." I believe that the new article I have created is much better-sourced than the previous one, but I thought that I would notify you of my creation of the article so you could review it yourself.

Neelix (talk) 04:25, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Your version is eminently suitable: the version I deleted wholly unsourced, read like a promotional release, and was probably a copyright violation. Cheers, Acroterion (talk) 11:10, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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Revert

Thanks a lot You made a constructive edit to my talk by reverting dumb vandalism, but I actually prefer to keep it. Thanks, though! —Justin (koavf)TCM06:13, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

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New Message

Hey Acroterion

I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).

So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.

What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: Iain Duncan Smith Page

I wasn't "vandalizing" the page, rather, I was contributing, he has (in Scotland) became know for his nickname. A simple google shearch would tell you that. Don't call me a vandal you wiki-bureaucrat. For someone who has an Anti-Vandalism reward, you're remarkably cavalier with the concept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanBerry98 (talkcontribs) 22:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Sell it somewhere else: no "ratbag" in biographies. Acroterion (talk) 00:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/27/ian-duncan-smith-branded-ratbag http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/27/iain-duncan-smith-ratbag_n_2964720.html Theres even been a short film and a song. What biographies has is there about IDS?

The sources you provide clearly indicate that "ratbag" is an epithet, not a name. Misplaced Pages isn't a platform for name-calling. Pleae read WP:BLP for more on Misplaced Pages policies concerning living people, including people you don't like. Acroterion (talk) 02:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, can't we put-in that his epithet is "ratbag"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanBerry98 (talkcontribs) 02:28, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

No. Acroterion (talk) 02:30, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

No? Just No? No reason? I think it's you who's the bias one... — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanBerry98 (talkcontribs) 02:31, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

You did read my second reply, didn't you? Abuse is abuse, even if the target's a politician. Acroterion (talk) 02:34, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Bad RFPP call

Re: Conor Maynard

Sorry. I thought because it was BLP and 3 different single-purpose users, 1 day was justified. Please help me understand. I'm new. :) Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:58, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it looks like I misclicked while my %$@#! browser was slowly loading - I had no idea I'd reverted something. Jeez. Not anything to do with you, my fault. Legoktm was corect to revert my mistake. Acroterion (talk) 23:14, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Phew. Thanks. I was panicking. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:18, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Don't panic! In my case, my first official administrative action as an administrator six years ago was to accidentally block myself. You won't blow up the wiki, and we all make mistakes. Acroterion (talk) 23:22, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Came to your page for other reasons, but reading your post above was hilarious-sounds like something straight out of my playbook. Not sure I want to know how you contrived to do that. Hushpuckena (talk) 22:50, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
I blame my browser, my Internet connection, my mouse, my dog, anything but me (and of course Anna). It's possible for the code to load before ti displays, and I was going click click click in irritation and hit a place on the screen where "rollback" would appear on the latest diff at RFPP. It happens sometimes. As for the self-block, I was fooling around with the "block" function (for admins the interface displays "Typicaluser (talk|contribs|block)" )and not knowing the sequence of confirmations, I blocked myself. I of course unblocked myself, learning how to unblock in the process, but it looks dumb and is enshrined in my block log with my rather disingenuous rationale. Acroterion (talk) 23:08, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Braulio Castillo (businessman)

I come gain seeking adult supervision. I created a page on Braulio Castillo (businessman), the gentleman who was grilled by that congressman the other day. My article is true, it is careful say only what is in the public record, it is my best shot at a fair article. That being said, no other editor has worked on it. I suspect the fellow is notable, but the lack of traffic hints elsewise. Take a look and tell me what you think. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 08:52, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't see any obvious problems, and I'd suspect that the lack of other editors is just because you've reported what's available to report. It got 119 views yesterday, and I assume you didn't need 119 edits to get it written. Acroterion (talk) 14:52, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Non-constructive reversions

On my page in March, you posted regarding the actions of Tom991, who took umbrage to some edits I made at Wilbraham, Massachusetts, reverting them in some instances without constructive reason, whilst launching personal attacks. On at least two occasions since, this user has posted at my talk page, then deleted the message. He has, moreover, deleted some of the edits I have made, simply for the sake of doing so. In the edit summary of his last episode, this user made a comment to the effect that he delighted in 'making (me) mad'.

I've no intention of getting involved in anything resembling a flame war, but see no reason to tolerate this behaviour, either. I would be most appreciative of any attention you could give to this matter. Thanks in advance. Hushpuckena (talk) 23:04, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I left him a rather neutrally-worded note : we'll see what the response is. I'll keep an eye out. Acroterion (talk) 23:17, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Once more, thanks! Here's hoping things work out for the best. Hushpuckena (talk) 16:35, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Where

Where can I request a protection for this page? Thia sick Portgual editor wants to teach me the reality of my country. Rauzaruku (talk) 02:10, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to block both of you if you don't stop edit-warring and throwing around insults. The kinder thing to do would be to protect the article, but that won't be necessary if you both stop. I'm in no position to judge whether your position is correct on the idiom, but it would be nice if somebody would find a source. Acroterion (talk) 02:12, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Here: http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/sobre-palavras/consultorio/americano-norte-americano-ou-estadunidense/ . His brazilian source analyzes the issue impartially. Here, says: "estadunidense - that is the third option of Brazilians and is containing higher doses of anti-Americanism". He also says: "In the end, suffice the pedantic of the word "estadunidense" to alienate me against it" Rauzaruku (talk) 02:16, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
The source supports your argument that it is a pejorative term (I wouldn't call it "racist" since you're referring to a nation), but I'd suggest a discussion on the article talkpage - the other user has posted there using more temperate language. Acroterion (talk) 02:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I think you're being way too kind with them, especially Cristiano. With all of those excessively foul insults, my watchlist now probably needs a good wash with soap. Thank you for quickly dealing with the problem. Best regards. --MarshalN20 | 03:42, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Probably, but Christiano has apologized, and they ended up talking about it, sort of. I'd rather have some sort of mediated discussion than a round of blocks for a slanging match. Rauzaruku's insistence that on characterizing it as a horrible insult is probably unnecessary, and I don't think this article is the place to present every nuance of the perennial problem "what is an American?" in Spanish and Portuguese for non-US citizens of the Americas. Acroterion (talk) 11:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I remember a similar discussion taking place in Americans (or American, or both). It has no end.
I found Rau's point interesting. In Spanish, the term estadounidense is actually the correct (respectful) way of referring to an American. Slang includes "Gringo" and "Americano" (and both may be insults depending on the tone and context of the word).
Regarding Cristiano, I would have probably gone with a one-day block to keep a record of his behavior in the log. This is not the first time he steps over the etiquette line. But, everyone has a method, and I think you made a right choice as well. Best.--MarshalN20 | 14:04, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Please ignore MarshalN20. He was recently topic banned from editing all articles related to the history of Latin America because of me. Obviously he doesn't have "Portuguese language" on his watchlist. He is following my edits and once I asked the two users to stop and talk MarshalN20 found out about the conflict. Seeing what he wrote to you it seems that he was hoping to see Cristiano blocked. --Lecen (talk) 12:32, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I give up. Rauzaruku's latest message was enough for me. He's aggressive and clearly engaged in somekind of political warfare. All this in Portuguese language? I wonder what he'll do in articles related to politics. --Lecen (talk) 12:30, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
I've left a warning on his talkpage about his aggressive tone. I will be tied up much of the day and may not be able to watch and intervene in a timely manner. Acroterion (talk) 12:39, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Block request

See User:Jasmeetkaur1765's edits — time for {{uw-spamblock}}? Nyttend backup (talk) 18:43, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, blocked. Ignoring a clear prior warning is enough for me. Acroterion (talk) 18:48, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Meanwhile, see here for my response regarding the Maryland Inventory of Historical Properties; I realised that it was time for a talk page archive. Nyttend (talk) 21:17, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

bad timing

Saturday evening I was bored and stumbled upon an old story that needed an article...Blackwater fire of 1937. It's not a happy story I thought, but should be documented since it is a significant event...anyway, my timing was terrible for the next day we have the disaster in Arizona...such an ugly coincidence that I decided to write an article about a forest fire that happened 76 years ago (almost) that killed 15 people and the next day we have one that kills even more. It doesn't sit well right now but I wanted ot get it done and I'm not going to take it to DYK at this time, though that was my original intent. Having been involved in fighting forest fires I'm just not feeling so well right now...but if you want to take a lookie and see how the article is (since I'm finished unless I get a few more images)...kind of feeling a little sick to my stomach.--MONGO 00:44, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Your timing is uncanny. Still, it's good to have a memorial to the 15 who died in 1937, and the events of yesterday will have people looking for other similar disasters: again,. it's best that those who died be remembered to the present day. It should be added to List of the deadliest firefighter disasters in the United States. Acroterion (talk) 01:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


Estadunidense

What you should realize is that these two users are Brazilian leftists, trying to defend the spread this word via Misplaced Pages. Wiki-PT have a large influx of communists, socialists and left-lists using your structure for spreading ideological ideas (articles of politics at Wiki-PT are a disgrace, totally advocate a political vision and always attack the other), and of course, they come here as well. Any Brazilian acquainted in politics (few people) know that the word "Estadunidense" is used only for fanatics anti-US or ignorant who do not know the political meaning of this word, and just talk because they read somewhere. You will not find this word in any common and serious Brazilian media, only radical blogs and a few media organizations that have strong links with the left. Rauzaruku (talk) 21:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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