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::*''That's a LOT of effort you put into violating policy. Bravo. I wish I could focus so much energy on the little things like you can.'' ] (]) 23:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC) ::*''That's a LOT of effort you put into violating policy. Bravo. I wish I could focus so much energy on the little things like you can.'' ] (]) 23:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

== Helena ==

Hey i hate to keep bugging you, but why can;t style mean genre, its a synonym and its used interchangeably by many review sites and people so why can't we use the styles on allmusic as a genre when that's clearly what allmusic means, especially since they are used by many other wikipedia pages as a valid source.

Frankly i don't know what your trying to accomplish by slowly changing every my chemical romance genre to pop/rock. I can only assume that your just trying to keep the genre warring to a minimum by keeping it at just pop/rock, but why can't it just be that we can use styles from allmusic and just limit it to that, there's no need to put such a tight lock and key on the genre edits when the style section shows they are more than pop/rock.

I don't want to be in this eternal argument with you over this, i think your hearts in the right place for trying to keep genre warring to a minimum but i also think your going a bit to far with this, there's no need to put these obscene limits on citations that simply don't exist for other wikipedia pages. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:07, 29 July 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

*''First, let me say that the genre is '''not a big deal''', and not worth all of this trouble you're going to to try and sway people's positions on it. Secondly, just because something is cited a certain way on other Misplaced Pages pages does not make it policy. You don't seem to be understanding this, as every time you get into this time-wasting crusade of yours you say something along the lines of "Genre and style are synonyms," or "'''Other pages''' list styles as genres, so why can't this one?" Those '''other pages''' are not precedent nor policy, so please stop bringing them up as if they were. As for your opinion that "style" and "genre" are synonyms, read ]. If you can't understand that, stop editing Misplaced Pages. Just stop. It's the single most important policy that this website has, so if you can't understand how to abide by it, you should just stop completely. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but there is no place on this encyclopedia for people who ignore something so simple.''

:''As for your accusation that I am, in your words, "''slowly changing every my chemical romance genre to pop/rock''", that's not true, even if it looks like it from my reverts. Really, what I do is very simple. If an article's genre is being disputed, and a reliable website lists a genre for that article, I put it in the infobox. That's sufficient. If it lists something else separately as a style on the exact same page, it would be ridiculous to say "well, they mean genre even though they explicitly say it's something different." Find a good source that supports your argument, or quit bothering people about something that is, in all honesty, quite pointless. ''

:''Also, please sign your posts in the future. It's not hard and frankly, the fact that you still aren't doing it after all this time is annoying. When I see that I have new messages, I expect the last edit on my talk page to be from the user that edited it, not ]. It's just the polite thing to do. Also, I would appreciate it if you would mention that you're opening the same discussion on someone else's talk page. Thank you.'' ] (]) 17:28, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

== talk page ==

Please come to the talk page for three cheers, we all need to discuss how these edits are going to work, and lets all be polite and non aggressive please for everyone's sake.--] (]) 04:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

== Frank Zappa proposal ==

Yes, I would definitely support such a proposal. --] (]) 00:44, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

== cover artist ==

According to this, the artist is Bill Miller. Zappa trust probably owns the copyright, but it isn't his artwork.

http://www.discogs.com/Frank-Zappa-Congress-Shall-Make-No-Law--/release/2640346 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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== Thanks very much for reverting those edits performed on my user page ==

That individual has been bugging me for a while now. I think that since the person has hopped IPs and performed long-term disruption, along with having been blocked several times, this is ground for me to file an ]. Do you have any advice for how I should navigate this situation?

I would give you more information, but you don't have e-mail attached, and there are elements about this situation that I would rather not talk openly and publicly about.

Cheers, and happy editing. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 23:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

==Can I have some help?==
I put up a discussion for deletion on the article ] because it's a non notable song stub and has no citations. How do I add it to the Articles for Deletion page? --] (]) 03:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

*''Just go to ] and add it at the top.'' ] (]) 18:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

==A Dozen==
I checked the project proposal page and we finally have a dozen users on the support list. You said something about there being a dozen users... so I thought I'd inform you! --] (]) 19:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

== 87green ==

can 87 green bring back his article expansions for three cheers for sweet revenge, since you said it was ok for him to do it for i brought you my bullets, so can his edits for the musical style article section be brought back. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:16, 18 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Edits not vandalism ==

I see you reverted a number of edits by {{User|71.230.21.142}} as vandalism. There are two problems. First, the edits were not vandalism. They were unsourced, but good-faith edits. Per ]: "Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is ''not'' vandalism."

Second, it was not appropriate to give them increasingly severe vandalism warnings after every revert you made. This IP had stopped editing hours before and was not ignoring your warnings. You should only escalate the severity of warnings if the editor is ignoring the previous ones.

Please be careful in the future to take into account the user's intent when handling these situations. Thanks. --]&nbsp;] 17:46, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

== ] ==

I concur with your point that ''Mystery Science Theater 3000, Volume 10'', as published, does include ''Godzilla vs. Megalon'', regardless of whether or not it's available. But I'd argue that your citing of ] for the ''Volume XXV'' release is a bit pedantic. The official release is only 4 days away, both the official and other sources list its contents, and its cover art, including the list of episodes, has been available for eBay sellers for nearly a month. (I can provide ] if you feel it useful, but I think that's overkill for auxiliary information in this article.) I really only added this now because who knows what I'll be doing in 4 days, and I'm about to make a huge update to fix all the improperly formatted air-dates while I have the time right now. Nevertheless, if you feel strongly that these releases should remain unmentioned until 4 December, I'll let someone else update that info. ~ ]&nbsp;] 19:54, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
: Never mind. My ] skills seem to be a bit rusty, and I've run out of time for WP editing for now. Perhaps I'll try my date cleanup next week and tackle both updates. ~ ]&nbsp;] 20:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

==Continued edit warring==
I saw that after , you continued edit warring on ] and I blocked you for edit warring. Your edits on that page indicated that you were reverting the edits of a sockpuppet, yet you applied no {{tlx|sockpuppet}} tags to the user page indicating who the editor was a sockpuppet of. Only reverting actions performed by banned users, their sockpuppets and by tagged sockpuppets of indefinitely blocked accounts could be considered an exception to 3RR - but not exceptions to edit warring.

Later, I found that you had reported the editor to SPI - which was not obvious. Either way, continuing the edit war was the wrong solution. The SPI is still open, but it appears that the editor you were reverting may be that sockpuppet.

I have reconsidered my administrative actions here today after digging further and have unblocked you with a caution that you need to be much clearer in your actions and avoid edit warring, rather than relying on possible exceptions and continuing edit warring.

] <small>(])</small> 17:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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] You are receiving this message because you rename is on the list of interested parties at ]. This message is being sent to let you know that the ]! Pleasfeel free to join in discussion on the project's talk page, and be sure to add {{tl|WikiProject Frank Zappa}} to the talk page of any relevant article you come across. Thanks! ] (]) 22:38, 9 December 2012 (UTC)</div>

::p u will probably also notice that I went ahead and moved your draft pages from your userspace to serve as the project page. I hope that is ok with you. ] (]) 22:38, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

== Sock ==

On my user page Themetallican is some guy who was blocked long ago. I don't see any identical edits or matched things.

] (]) 20:23, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I only edit pages for punk, metal and deathcore bands. His and his socks did on various rock genres. You can give me examples of similar edits

] (]) 20:36, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

== Queensrÿche ==

Hi Friginator, thank you for your edits regarding ] and ]. Very much appreciated! :-) --] (]) 09:24, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

*''No problem. I hadn't checked on those articles in a while, and it seemed to me that there had been a lot of anonymous editors out there putting their own take on things. It seems important to keep things as neutral as possible when there's so much controversy surrounding the band's status nowadays.'' ] (]) 19:07, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

:: ''It seems important to keep things as neutral as possible'' — my thoughts exactly! ;-) --] (]) 21:46, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I think it is relevant to provide information on who is actually playing on an album when it is well known among fans that it differs substantially to the credits published. As this information was published and detailed by one of the musicians involved, I also think the source is as credible as possible. ] (]) 18:12, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

*''First of all, the source you have given for the information (which, for the record, was not ]), violates Misplaced Pages's ].'' '''''Anything''''' ''that is intended to portray a member of the band in a negative light violates this policy. Not to mention that the information is clearly intended to portray'' '''''another''''' ''musician in a more positive light. Second, it is a'' '''''message board discussion''''', ''which is not a reliable source or an appropriate place to post information from, especially since there is nothing to back up the claims. Third, this is a case of ], in which the material added is only of note to fans of the music.'' ] (]) 18:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

: Just would like to clarify that the intention was not to portray a band member in a negative light, but to provide additional information about uncredited musicians in a similar manner as for example in the articles on Kiss albums Destroyer and Creatures of the Night. What would be considered a credible source considering the musicians and performances are uncredited? ] (]) 19:47, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

:: (Hope you will allow me to respond on this talk page.) Killmeister, I understand why you are trying to add it, and it may be possible that it will in the future. So I don't doubt your good intentions and I hope you will stay involved (what you've added to the Geoff Tate page today adds more nuance, which I appreciate). At the moment it is a bit too early, because it is still under discussion. The claims that the music on the recent albums was (largely) not played by the band members of Queensrÿche other than Geoff Tate, are still disputable. In the injunction for freezing the use of the Queensrÿche brand (plaintiffs Geoff and Susan Tate), Geoff Tate claims this is the case in order to discredit the other band members who fired him, but the other band members deny they didn't play on the albums, both in their declarations and via other channels. So in that light, adding this information places the other band members of Queensrÿche in a negative light, and supports Geoff Tate's point of view. The other musicians are rumored to have signed a contract to never disclose their musical contributions. So at the moment, it is unclear whether this is true or not. Possibly the court case in November 2013 will shed more light on this (in that case there may be some testimonies that specifically need to address the contributions of the various band members on the albums). That, as well as the non-disclosure agreement signed by the session musicians, would be more valid. Board discussions on these topics are a wonderful thing, but they aren't authoritative. --] (]) 20:14, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

== Pink Floyd ==

Just a quick note to be careful with your edits at ] and not to violate ] (that's exactly what some people want you to do, I know!). I'm with you on this one, but it's probably best to go to talk rather than keep reverting. Thanks! ]&nbsp;<sup>(]&#124;])</sup> 00:59, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

== Infobox member order ==

Hey Friginator, though it matters little to me, FWIW ] suggests that they be "listed in order of joining", which for Floyd would mean Waters and Mason first, then Wright, then Barrett and lastly, Gilmour. Though an argument could be made that Waters, Mason, Wright and Barrett all joined "Pink Floyd" at the same time, so alphabetising them would seem to make sense. ] <sup>(]&#124;])</sup> 23:32, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

== Quadrophenia Reversion ==

Hi,

Thought your reversion of my expanded summary was rather abrupt? The original summary gives the reader little or no insight into the character, motivations, drivers of the main protagonist, let alone the plot. A suggestion on the talk page to make it more brief, accompanied by some suggestions on how that could have been achieved, would have perhaps been more appropriate than a reversion, which I might have only expected in a case of vandalism or similar.

If there are any Misplaced Pages guidelines on the maximum length and depth of a summary, please let me know where these can be found so I can avoid this in future?

] (]) 14:37, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Update: Thanks for the advice on this. I'll take a close look at how some good example of existing similar pages are structured in terms of length, content and organisation, and try to produce something more appropriate. And shorter ;-) ] (]) 10:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

== Return of the son of Wisdomtenacityfocus ==

See {{userlinks|BigBabyChips}},<p>] and ]. At least this time he carefully avoided touching Zappa stuff. Duh. - ] (]) 10:22, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


== Rocky Balboa == == Rocky Balboa ==
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== Age of Ultron ==

Hi Friginator,

Just wanted to let you know that I've added a comment to the conversation at ]. ] (]) 02:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


== Joe's Garage == == Joe's Garage ==

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STOP STRIKING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm trying to think about my edits — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 01:12, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Well, you're blocked indefinitely now, so I guess you have all the time in the world to think about them. And how they in no way improved the quality of this site. Friginator (talk) 01:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
  • UPDATE: I know your above account can't respond to this, but that was one hell of a show you put on. After being blocked, you created not one, not two, not three, but at least sixteen different sockpuppet accounts, and edited from over two dozen IPs. That's some impressive block evasion. Of course, they're almost all blocked, and the situation is being dealt with, but for my own convenience I think I'll list them all here:
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Rocky Balboa

Hi Friginator You mistaked: Rocky Balboa is alive and thats correct. If you want, leave it like this. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.34.148 (talk) 17:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Joe's Garage

This edit was tagged as needing a citation. Is it supported by sources in the current article? This is a GA-class article and unsourced content can't be included. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 02:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

MST3K Home VIdeo Availability

"Redundant--There's no point in listing every on-demand service that streams the show over and over."

Please do not remove the information on home video availability of MST3K episodes. The information about which video services the episodes can be purchased from is not redundant, since it wasn't listed before. The added listings for Amazon Instant Video and Vudu are not "listing every on-demand service that streams the show over and over." Each episode is marked only with the service or services that sell that episode individually. This is the purpose of the "Home Video Availability" column in the list, and purchasing the show this way is in no way different from buying a DVD. Amazon and Vudu are the publishers of these episodes, just like Rhino, Shout!, etc., are the publishers of the DVD versions. Not every episode available on DVD is available to purchase from these publishers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.233.195 (talk) 07:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

  • The On-Demand services that offer episodes of the show get them from the distributor of the physical DVDs (Shout! Factory). There isn't a single episode offered from Amazon, Netflix, Hulu or any other similar service that hasn't already been made available on home video in a physical format. That's what I mean by "redundant." I feel I should also point out that streaming a film over the internet is arguably not the same as owning it on "home video". Honestly, I'm wondering if we even need a column for "Home Video Availability" in the article, considering two things: First, it borders on WP:FANCRUFT by providing information mainly of interest to the show's existing fanbase and not the general public (this policy is frequently ignored by editors of MST3K articles), and second, there's already this article that covers that exact subject subject (in a ridiculous, un-encyclopedic, obsessive-compulsive fanboy-ish manner). But I digress. Also, please remember to sign your posts. Cheers. Friginator (talk) 20:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
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