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Making an AfD on an article that *you yourself* say is already in an AfD makes little sense. TMLutas (talk) 03:47, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

as per your comment, if multiple AfDs are general practice, I withdraw the complaint. If you read the group AfD the objections are generally for insufficient information. The article material is being auto-generated by a database program in code that is likely to be distributed to thousands of people. The articles will come back regardless of the AfD results and regardless of whether or not I ever submit another one. Setting a collaborative process with me to improve the "form letter" style template I'm developing would be a lot better but this seems to be culturally difficult for the mass delete crowd. I'm extending you the same invitation, What would be the verbiage I should add and what would be the information (ideally from a source like NCES that provides in CSV form) that should be added to overcome your objections? It's not particularly difficult to add a static text paragraph that explains the independent government nature of these districts. It's just not usually done in the complete ones I've read and so I didn't think I should do it. Maybe that's US centrism. What do you think? TMLutas (talk) 04:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
As a Bay Area resident (Napa County) I noted your three school district AfDs in Napa and Sonoma Counties, and I oppose this campaign to delete school district articles. I oppose it in any state or any other country, but because these districts are familiar to me, I took special notice. I believe that school districts ought to be considered notable if there is any verifiable information available about the district. There is nothing wrong with a stub about a notable topic. As WP:STUB says, "A stub is an article containing only one or a few sentences of text that, although providing some useful information, is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject, and that is capable of expansion." The proper approach to stubs about notable topics is to expand and reference the stubs, not to delete them. Cullen Let's discuss it 05:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Cullen, I generally share your outlook, but we do need to maintain a minimum level of quality. Very few people actually edit these articles, meanwhile they rot with no content or sources. Yes, ideally we'd have a full, decent sourced article on every school district in world, but a line does need to be drawn and we should strive to at least have a sourced fact bare minimum for stubs created so they become a constructive thing rather than a pollutant. That you have mentioned nothing of quality and errors, nor encouraged Lutas to improve his standard, is concerning to me.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld, I respect your opinion and have left a message on the talk page for TMLutas, expressing general support for the creation of these school district articles, but also expressing concern about the quality level of the stubs. As I told that editor, I have no expertise in bots and automated procedures for creating articles, and I know that such automated efforts have been controversial in other contexts. I am an old fashioned guy, and I write, reference and expand articles slowly, and in a very personalized way. If, though, better bots can be programmed that produce better, more useful, more accurate stubs by extracting information from databases, I do not object. So, I encourage TMLutas to shift from quantity to at least minimal levels of quality, and I would feel far more confident with an effort that produced 500 decent starter articles than 5000 miserable, inaccurate stubs filled with errors and garbage. So, perhaps, we are not so much out of agreement here. Cullen Let's discuss it 04:55, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

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