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January 2010 to June 2012. July to December 2012.

Thanks

		The BLP Barnstar
		For providing references to many of the old articles at the back of the Unreferenced BLPs backlog. Your contributions in this area are much appreciated!  --Joshua Scott (LiberalFascist) 00:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Nicely Done

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		For reversing my recent prod of Samuel Armacost, you found some decent sources after I failed to do so! Nuujinn (talk) 21:07, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		For trying to save Del Cerro, San Diego, California from sure deletion. Bearian (talk) 18:24, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Not as good as your own article but...

		The Press Barnstar
		Awarded for the recognition granted to you by the San Diego media, which took note of your hard work in keeping local pol's biographies NPOV XinJeisan (talk) 03:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		for spelling out Wiki-abbreviations (like BLP) for readers who haven't a clue what they mean. GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

San Diego

		The Original Barnstar
		To MelanieN, on the occasion of San Diego reaching GA! -SusanLesch (talk) 15:29, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Socratic Barnstar
		To MelanieN, for well-considered arguments at AfD. Axl ¤ 18:19, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Best wishes. Axl ¤ 18:19, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Really this should be the barnstar of lost causes, but thank you for your efforts in trying to solve the problem that is Purplebackpack and Luciferwildcat. Spartaz 07:19, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree 100% with Spartaz here. You deserve a lot of credit, no matter the outcome. Cullen Let's discuss it 07:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Much

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		For all your work on Kit Carson Park and saving it from deletion. EdWitt (talk) 06:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Your background enumeration, presentation, and reasoning in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gérard Gertoux (2nd nomination) is exactly what every nomination should have. The fact that you made the effort to DELSORT it appropriately is the icing on the cake. The encyclopedia needs more deletion nominations this well-constructed. Jclemens (talk) 03:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For kindness to a new editor Peridon (talk) 19:03, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

And thanks back to you - it was a tag-team effort! and I think well worth while. --MelanieN (talk) 19:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Thank you for working with Hanky to improve the Munzee article! SarahStierch (talk) 20:19, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

For your perusal.....

You made the news. Just a passing mention mind, no indepth coverage yet. ;) Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 01:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and again here (at the bottom). Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 01:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Wow, and here it is again in a separate story about the same issue. Think I'm notable yet? 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 00:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Required Notification

This is to notify you that I have opened a complaint about your behavior in the Victoria Pynchon matter here:

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive757#Complaint About Editors' Behavior In Victoria Pynchon Deletion Discussion

Pernoctus (talk) 21:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I modified the link for the record when the discussion was archived. --MelanieN (talk) 15:57, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hey there; as thanks for your great articles, I've granted you the "autopatrolled" userright :). Keep up the good work! Ironholds (talk) 00:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem! The articles you've been writing are awesome :). Ironholds (talk) 00:44, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

RfC on US city names

The discussion was closed as "maintain status quo (option B)". Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2012/December#RfC: US city names. --MelanieN (talk) 17:51, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Metcalfe's Food Company

Hi there I hope you are well. I was given your contact details by peridon. He told me you would be able to help me edit an Article. I wrote a new article about a Food Company called Metcalfe's Food Company . Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Sgarcia113 Can you please have a look at it and review it so it can be rescued frome deletion? I am new to wikipedia so I really appreciate your help with this! --sgarcia113 (User talk:sgarcia113) 01:11, 07 January 2013 (UTC) Best

WP:FOC

In your article and policy talk page comments, please adhere to WP:FOC (which is on the WP:DR policy page):

Focus on article content, not on editor conduct. Misplaced Pages is built upon the principle of collaboration, and assuming that the efforts of others are in good faith is important to our community. Bringing up conduct often leads to painful digressions and misunderstandings.

It can be difficult to focus on content if other editors appear to be uncivil or stubborn. Stay cool! It is never to your benefit to respond in kind, which will only serve to derail the discussion. When it becomes too difficult or exhausting to maintain a civil discussion based on content, you should seriously consider going to an appropriate dispute resolution venue detailed below.

I bring your attention to this because of your focus on editor conduct (mine) rather than content, here, where you write: "What I should have said was, nobody EXCEPT BORN2CYCLE wants to see it reopened so soon." Please edit this comment so that it complies with WP:FOC. Thank you. --Born2cycle (talk) 18:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I stand by my comment. --MelanieN (talk) 18:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

That's not the issue. The issue is that it's inappropriate to make comments about editors there. Do you deny that your comment there is in violation of WP:FOC? Do I really need to ask for admin assistance?

By the way, as to the content of your statement, all that previous discussion demonstrated (again) was that at best there was no consensus about whether US place names should be predisambiguated (and so status quo was favored), and there was still a lot of misunderstanding and lack of appreciation for how and why avoiding predisambiguation improves WP. This proposal is both simpler and broader, making understanding and appreciation much more likely. --Born2cycle (talk) 18:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

In the previous discussion, only 18 out of 58 contributors (31%) wanted to follow a policy of "no unnecessary disambiguation" (i.e., state name only when necessary for DAB), while 40 out of 58 (69%) wanted at least some U.S. cities to add the state name regardless of need for disambiguation. That seems like a pretty clear consensus - more than 2 to 1 - that US cities should have an exception to the "disambiguate only when necessary" rule. As for the current discussion, I can see no purpose for it, except to reopen the USPLACE discussion, which was closed after exhaustive (and exhausting) debate only 6 weeks ago. Isn't there some kind of statute of limitations on RFCs? --MelanieN (talk) 19:04, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

LOL. Alternatively, 38 out of 58 (65%) wanted some kind of change, and only 20 out of 58 (34%) supported the status quo. This is an artifact of the RFC being so complicated. We were in the middle of discussing how to formulate an RFC when this one was poorly and prematurely (IMHO) proposed. This one won't have any such problems. --Born2cycle (talk) 19:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Nice try, but sorry. The fact was that fewer than a third of discussants wanted your preferred policy; the other two thirds wanted SOME exceptions for US cities. In any case, isn't your preferred policy - "no unnecessary disambiguation" - already the case for most or all countries, with an exception for the US? Thus, isn't the (rather unclear) proposal for a new RFC merely another attempt to eliminate the exception for US cities? That's why I asked the original poster for some non-US examples of what they are talking about. If they can't supply any, then there is nothing new about this proposal; it's simply another attempt to eliminate the exception for US cities, and as I said, I think there should be some kind of grace period before we have to thrash that out again. --MelanieN (talk) 19:29, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

It's one thing to restrict the regulars to some kind of grace period, but it's unfair to impose the restriction on someone previously uninvolved, which, so far as I can tell, the proposer of this RFC is.

That previously uninvolved editors like this one keep bringing up the same point (on individual articles as well as on the guideline talk page) over and over year after year after year is in and of itself evidence of there being an obvious and inherent problem with the current approach. --Born2cycle (talk) 20:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

It's never going to be unanimous, and it doesn't have to be; this is not a jury trial. After any election or other decision point, there are always people who voted for the losing candidate and people who didn't vote. That doesn't mean they can keep getting do-overs. At some point it becomes necessary to accept a decision, even if one didn't agree with it, and move on. Most people realize this. The alternative is constant stalemate with endless, unproductive rehashing of the same points.
Think about this: Two thirds of the people in that discussion wanted the state added in at least some cases; 26% wanted the state added in ALL cases, no exceptions. That means that if you got your way and eliminated all the "unnecessary" state names, there would constantly be people trying to add the state, probably twice as often as happens now with people trying to remove it. It would be an even more "obvious and inherent problem" than it is now.
I seriously do ask you: please allow yourself to accept the majority decision on this issue and let us move on to more productive work. I keep quoting the Misplaced Pages policy (not just a guideline but policy, "a widely accepted standard that all editors should normally follow") that says "Debating controversial titles is often unproductive, and there are many other ways to help improve Misplaced Pages." I wish you could find it in you to follow this policy. --MelanieN (talk) 14:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the La Jolla page

Hi Melanie,

You're very involved on the La Jolla Misplaced Pages page, and I'd just like to thank you for all your positive contributions. I'm not a very regular wiki editor as you can probably tell, though I did write the original "antisemitism" section on that page under a different IP. I appreciate your efforts in helping edit that section and protecting the page as a whole from vandalism. I would most like to thank you for helping to revert the protection on the page so that everyday users can edit it again. It's very frustrating when an occasional user is prohibited from adding constructive content because of the vandalism of a select few others, and against the collaborative spirit of Misplaced Pages as a whole, in my opinion.

Keep up the good work! 69.181.233.225 (talk) 03:14, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Request for advice on User:Nonsenseferret/Tom Hanlin

I wonder if I might seek your advice concerning this draft article - I am not sure whether it is notable enough to merit improvement/submission, and if it is notable I'm not sure how best to improve it - any pointers gratefully received. ---- _nonsense ferret 22:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for taking the time to cast an eye over this article for me, it is much appreciated. I will consider your comments carefully, and particularly try to find more biographical details - I will keep my fingers crossed for the official review. Thanks again ---- _nonsense ferret 22:29, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment on Talk:La Luz del Mundo

Hi there! I cordially invite you to participate in the request for comment on Talk:La Luz del Mundo. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! Ajaxfiore (talk) 23:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)