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Season's tidings!

To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:37, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry <whatever> huh? LOL, that covers all the possibilities. A Merry Christmas or <whatever> to you and yours! -Fnlayson (talk) 03:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Gulfstream/ELTA

Good spot. I didnt see the previous ref. Wikiblindness :) Irondome (talk) 01:07, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Sure, Irondome. I had reworded or added text to the "G550 Airborne Early Warning" variant entry a while back. So I knew it was in there. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! -Fnlayson (talk) 19:56, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

To you and yours too mate, hope its been good so far! Cheers :) Irondome (talk) 20:40, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Battle Hawk: Thank You

Dear Sir: Thank You for vastly improving the Battle Hawk section and moving it to the correct location and adding the proper references. Again - Thanks.

Jack E. Hammond

PS. Forgot. Have a Happy Holiday! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackehammond (talk • contribs) 05:19, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Jack. I meant to add something on that about 2 years ago and forgot. Glad you added that to remind me. :) Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! -Fnlayson (talk) 19:56, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Shenyang J-21 / J-31

I found this page on the Shenyang J-21 and I'm a little confused on what its talking about. I think it's supposed to be about the Shenyang J-31 fighter, but was created before its name was known and the J-31 page was made. If that is the case, could you merge or delete the J-21 page? (America789 (talk) 16:22, 25 December 2012 (UTC))

Yea, the J-21 article is mostly uncited. Per Flight International, the fighter has been called F-60, J-21, and J-31. I can't delete articles and someone would probably recreate it anyway. I'll merge anything useful and redirect the J-21 article to Shenyang J-31. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:04, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I have sources

You are saying that I am not using sources on the Hungarian air force page, particularly the section about the Mi 24. I did though, if ou look on the helicopter database online and go to Hungary, and then the Hungarian air force you will learn that they have 17 Mi 24s in service. Why did you doubt my source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.231.98 (talk) 01:17, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, you have sources, but you have to add them in the article with the relevant changes. That way others can check the info (see WP:Verify). And why are you posting this here and not the relevant talk page (Talk:Mil Mi-24)? -Fnlayson (talk) 17:32, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Short-term article collab

Hi, long time no see. It's good to see that you've been toiling away at aviation articles while I was absent with some other WP work. Anyway, I want you to join me in giving Dassault Rafale a shake-up. My aim is for the article to reach GA-status before the end of the month. What do you think? If you decline, that's *really* fine by me. No pressure. --Sp33dyphil ©_ontributions 10:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, not sure if you've got this message. --Sp33dyphil ©_ontributions 04:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

• Yea, been busy. I doubt I can help much . You should post something about your article improvement plan on the Rafale's talk page. -Fnlayson (talk)

• Sure, np. --Sp33dyphil ©_ontributions 11:10, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

NPOV at fighter aircraft

Good evening Fnlayson.
I don't see any POV in my contributions. I can see that your contributions have consisted in improving the articles about F15 and F16 and many others. But not to the aircrafts that I 've putted in the article we are talking about. So I understand why you think I'm doing a POV. But I can also tell that you are doing a POV by writing the names of these aircrafts. All is about the POV of the Other which is not ours. Regards.
Nezdek (talk) 21:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Well removing fighter images and replacing them with images from another nation without any explanation or justification looks biased to me. Provide a clear reason in the edit summary in the future and it probably won't look that way. Good day. -Fnlayson (talk) 22:06, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Why are you speaking about a problem of hanging the image of another country? There is no problem with that. That's just that we can change the aircraft of manufacturers where there are already plenty of illustrations by others in order to equilibrate that.
Nezdek (talk) 20:30, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Just wanting to switch images is not a good reason. Take it to the article's talk page if needed.. -Fnlayson (talk) 21:04, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

F-35 revert

Hi Fnlayson,

The edit I made was in relation to this on the Chengdu J-20 page. Mallexikon believes that the J-20, J-31, PAK FA, and FGFA should not be held as 'comparable aircraft' to the F-22 and F-35, since they are prototypes. Since being a comparable aircraft is a two-way street, if he is going to singly edit the J-20 page, I felt it was appropriate to edit all the 5th-generation fighter aircraft pages to reflect clearly the distinction between design-phase, prototype-phase, and production-phase 5th-gen fighters. If you would like to help me clear up the discussion and revert all of the edits back, please join us on the talk page here. ]

Thanks, Lostromantic (talk) 21:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

The text you are leaving when removing these lists appears to be original research. If you want to remove the comparable lists fine, but don't leave such claims behind. -Fnlayson (talk) 21:49, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Got it. I think your edit works better in this instance. Cheers, Lostromantic (talk) 22:48, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Gulfstream G200

THANKS for your assistance and cleanup on the G280 article. You're the best.--Spray787 (talk) 23:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. But you added the meat. Thanks! -Fnlayson (talk) 23:07, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Why don't you like unicode?

Hi Fnlayson,

In this recent edit, you changed U+2212 MINUS SIGN for U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS. First, I'm impressed you noticed, knowledge that there are different dash (or hypen) characters available is somewhat esoteric. But my question is: why did you change these characters‽ (interrobang just for fun) To my judgement, U+2212 is the unambiguous character, having both an appearance, but also a syntactic meaning of a negative value indicator. It seems perfectly suited for the information presented. —fudoreaper (talk) 07:21, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

NDashes are only suppose to be used for number ranges and to separate parts of a sentence per MOS:DASH. Bots and scripts sometimes apply them in incorrect places. -Fnlayson (talk) 10:29, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Now that you point it out, of course wikipedia has a style guide for dashes. I took a look at it today and there's a relevant section on use as a negative mathematical sign. In this section I read that U+2212 should be used to represent a negative. This is a different character than U+2013 EN DASH or U+2014 EM DASH, which are used as punctuation and range markers, as you described. So in this case, I agree with the MOS's recommendation of using U+2112 MINUS SIGN to indicate negative values. What do you think? —fudoreaper (talk) 00:02, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Sources Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 07:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Dreamliner issues

Hi Fnlayson. I really respect you for your great work at so many aircraft articles. Thank you, and i mean it!

But: There are only a few statements, which imho are POV: Please seeTalk:Boeing_787_Dreamliner#Neutrality_and_Boeing_.3C.3E_Airbus_and_other_editors_fights. You reverted one once, i added and later deleted these two tags: . I posted a lot of reasons on the talk page, and really enjoy if you like to discuss them.

We can do this now, but it is also somehow a long term solution i want to find for a FEW statements, thats all. Thank you very much in advance. Tagremover (talk) 17:11, 20 January 2013 (UTC)