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Haiku in English

Hello, I see that you recently reverted the Haiku in English article, and I thank you. I myself and not too familiar with Haiku beyond a basic understanding,but the article itself needs work, and I would love to work with someone to fill in a few blanks within the article. If you are interested, please feel free to post on my talk pageMrathel (talk) 16:53, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Waka (poetry)

The first line of the New York Times article is suggestive:

TOKYO, Jan. 19 --A select group gathered at the imperial palace in Tokyo, the men dressed in morning coats and pin-stripe trousers, the women for the most part in formal black kimonos.

This brief NYT article discusses an Imperial poetry event in 1980. In that year, Emperor Shōwa read aloud what he had crafted. The first sentence of the article helps us imagine what the formal occasion might have looked like. On this occasion, the waka written by Empress Kōjun had to be read aloud by a courtier. NYT reported that the empress could not attend the event because problems with her hip made walking too difficult.

I mistakenly believed that the tag was supposed to elicit confirmation that such events do occur? --Tenmei (talk) 23:13, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Haiku in English

Hello, I'm new to Misplaced Pages and I'm try to figure out an easy way to add a bio page for Alan Pizzarelli for the Haiku in English and Senyru pages. But, all this coding has me completely confused. Is there an easy way to add my bio pages, which is currently in Word. The biography template had be even more confused! Any suggestions. Help!! Haikuwiki (talk) 00:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Haikuwiki

Hi Haikuwiki. It's not entirely clear to me what you wish or intend to do. If you wish to create an article on Alan Pizzarelli, you will need to show that he is objectively and verifiably notable - see Misplaced Pages:Notability. I'd suggest it would in any case be a good idea to read through Help:Contents/Editing Misplaced Pages and some of the pages linked from it, before beginning to edit. I'll be happy to assist you with any specific points. Best wishes --Bagworm (talk) 20:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Japanese literature

Hello! Do you think the headings/categories in List of National Treasures of Japan (writings) are chosen in a reasonable way? Unfortunately I don't know much about Japanese literature, so I took the headings from the Japanese wikipedia article. bamse (talk) 09:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Bamse. On the face of it, it seems so. But I would not claim expertise in this area. Nice work! --Bagworm (talk) 13:30, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! bamse (talk) 08:37, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


answer from Updatehelper

What is this? Are you now running a substitution on old user talk page posts?? I'd advise you to undo such edits with all the speed you can muster. --Bagworm (talk) 23:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

good point, i stoped editing those because i saw it was unnecessary and did already undo some. but why do you say undo as fast as possible? is there anything essential i forget? thanks ... --Updatehelper (talk) 03:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

After a closer examination I also came to that conclusion. I was unaware that there were multiple titles for the same publication. TheTallSarge (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Reply

I apologize if you found my message to be unwanted. I haven't contacted you before but I was simply trying to encourage other members of the Misplaced Pages community to participate in an ongoing discussion. Your comments will be appreciated there. In the future, I will not use the "Email User" function with you and will write on your talk page instead as you requested. With regards, Anupam 00:59, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Read WP:CANVASSING Anupam. Pathetic. ‡ Himalayan ‡ 11:37, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
This page is not a valid arena for launching a personal attack on another editor, in direct contravention of wp:civil. Kindly note. --Bagworm (talk) 14:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
What personal attack? The attempt by this editor to push POV by canvassing people sympathetic to the cause. Or the fact that this editor emailed you and you thought it appropriate to copy what was privately sent to you confidentially and expose and humiliate him in front of myself and Shahid and anybody else? That is far more danaging or an "attack" to him than asking him to read WP:CANVASSING. ‡ Himalayan ‡ 14:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Please indent when posting here. What the editor tried or did not try to do outside of this page is irrelevant to my point. WP:civil states: "Incivility consists of personal attacks, rudeness, and aggressive behaviours..." and no editor has the right to use this page as a platform for an ad hominem attack on another. Kindly keep your rants for somewhere more appropriate. --Bagworm (talk) 17:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

One word. Pathetic. ‡ Himalayan ‡ 21:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I see you have deleted my post here. You have made it rather clear who the 'p'-word refers to. Enough nonsense and time-wasting. --Bagworm (talk) 21:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Mora vs kana

Hi, I'd really appreciate your insight and opinion on this...

I have read dozens of linguistic articles on morae and, specifically, morae in Japanese and I am coming to the opinion that it's a lot simpler than linguists would have us believe. It seems to me that mother-tongue Japanese-speakers feel the importance of the mora in their language for no other reason than that they learned to read and write using hiragana. The key to this, I think, lies in the perception of "-n" as a separate mora. This does not fit into any pure linguistic definition of morae but is perfectly explained by it having its own kana.

I do think that linguists have an odd tendency to believe in pseudoscience. When I studied linguistics it was in the days when Chomsky was God. Hence my tendency to scepticism. As I'm aware of my prejudice against prevailing theories, I thought I'd seek informed opinion. And your opinion seems as informed as any!

Thanks in advance

Tesspub (talk) 09:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Frankly, I suspect you're better read and informed than me in this area, and you've certainly suggested an interesting tilt on cause-and-effect above. Your recent edits on the haiku article have made a considerable improvement, so please feel free to continue! --Bagworm (talk) 09:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
You are very kind. Thank you. If you know where I might find a nest of bright, linguistically aware, mother-tongue Japanese speakers to whom I could address my question, do let me know. Tesspub (talk) 11:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

The intro to this is interesting... ]

Sure is, but I think it's probably beyond the scope of the onji article. --Bagworm (talk) 16:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
You might also find this of interest: --Bagworm (talk) 16:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
You're right, I did. Fascinating. Not sure whether to believe it or not...


User:Full metal adonis

You keep sending me a message about how i need to stop deleting posts. Well teach me how to cite them. I just started using wiki using an account so i need a bit of help.

Please read Misplaced Pages:Introduction --Bagworm (talk) 21:32, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

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Can you help?

Hi, I'm asking you because you're the only editor I know! I am trying to work out how to put up one of those boxes that complains about an article being focused on the US. I have spent over an hour searching the help files and I haven't found anything close. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks Oh and congratulations on your elevation! Tesspub (talk) 09:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I haven't investigated what the 'elevation' means, but thanks :) You'll find just the thing you're looking for at the top of Haiku in English (though I now notice that that template is in danger of being deprecated). It just involves inserting {{Globalize/North America}} at the top of the article. Anyway, the place to look for all such things is at WP:TEMPLATE, or more specifically WP:TMC. Does that give you enough of a pointer? I should say that its purpose is not so much to 'complain' as to ask for help in redressing an imbalance (but I'm sure you knew that anyway). I agree the 'Help' section of Misplaced Pages is something of a catastrophe. --candyworm (talk) 10:24, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Brilliant. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tesspub (talkcontribs) 09:28, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Black Metal

This is in reference to your comment: "Please do not add promotional material to Misplaced Pages, as you did to Black metal. While objective prose about products or services is acceptable, Misplaced Pages is not intended to be a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Thank you. This is the second time you have added this information to the article, in contravention of wp:coi candyworm (talk) 01:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)"

How does adding a legitimate bibliographic entry under Literature heading fall under advertising or promotion? I did not add link, only information about the volume of essays

Nicolamasciandaro (talk) 02:59, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Moved discussion to Talk:Black metal as it's of article relevance. --candyworm (talk) 09:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

21 line fusion sonnet

Please help me with my article of 21 line fusion sonnet.It is indeed a new form of sonnet appearing in significant online journals and well edited and selective poetry websites as well as newspapers but still notability questions are raised.Please help to keep this article.It is indeed necessary and it is notable as it is a new type of Sonnet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poet009 (talkcontribs) 13:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC) please share you ideas here to save the article or else it will be unnessarily be deleted. http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Web_based_magazines_as_sources.3F —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.86.87 (talk) 18:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC) Please help as Ragib is deleting many articles without having proper knowledge.

New article deleted before

I was going to create an article about Sonnet Mondal but I found that due to repeated spamming in the gone years the article name has been blocked.May be it was not written properly by other users before with non notable and reliable sources but I find enough resources in the net now to establish notability of the article.I have prepared the article in my user page with RS references and external links which you can kindly take a look.Please help.Here is the link where I have prepared the article.Or you can also createthis article as it seems that with the present references it has enough notability.--Poet009 (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk Pages

Is there a policy on cleaning up talk pages? I know a lot of it is my fault (!) but the haiku talk page is getting out of hand and I think a lot of it has been resolved. I am happy to spend some time tidying up, but I don't know if that's OK Tesspub (talk) 22:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page. The Talk:Haiku page is a lot shorter than some I've stumbled across, so I wouldn't feel any urgent need to archive. One disadvantage of archiving is that an editor new to the article can start raising the same old issues again, even though they've been resolved, whereas leaving the old discussions visible avoids that problem. --candyworm (talk) 22:22, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

21 line fusion sonnet

Please take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/21_line_fusion_sonnet .It has been vaguely tagged with speedy deletion in spite of the fact that it has reliable references. The subject who has tagged seems to have an attacking attitude towards removing this page. He has very less no of wiki edits but has added the tag in spite of the fact that such tags cannot be added when an article asserts significance. --Diameter 17:52, 27 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poet009 (talkcontribs)

AFD of Fusion Sonnets

The page has which you helped me create by cleaning and fixing references has been taken to afd. You may please comment on the afd page. http://en.wikipedia.org/21_line_fusion_sonnet --Diameter 18:28, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I've left comment there. --candyworm (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Modern aesthetic movements in haiku

Very interested in what other movements there are beside gendai. Can you point me in the right direction? Tesspub (talk) 21:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Me too. Can you show that gendai is the only one? --candyworm (talk) 23:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Not at all. I am not arguing. I am seeking info. From your comment I assumed you knew there were others. Tesspub (talk) 17:27, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Your edit at Gendai suggested that it was the only one. From the sheer number of different and competing haiku groups in Japan, it seems unlikely in the extreme that there could be just one modern aesthetic. --candyworm (talk) 18:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Hubris?

Dear Mr Worm,

You probably think this is hubris, and well it might be, but I am starting to write a small book introducing haiku to the gaikoku-jin. I would like to be able to thank you for all the support you have given me in my journey so far - and I would like to be able to send you a copy. Please let me know how you would like to be named and where to send the book. elliott@tesspub.com Tesspub (talk) 12:36, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tesspub
I'm sure it's not hubris at all! I've no doubt your book will prove very useful. There is really no need to thank me, but if you feel you must, you could mention editor Bagworm at Misplaced Pages. As to sending me a copy, rather send the cost to your favourite charity. Let me know here about its availability, and I'll order a copy for myself. Thanks for the message 8) --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Your edit is Rv

  • Hi,You reverted my edit saying that,"Rv unexplained removal of image,Ehsan Sehgal,your edit summary was incomprehensible."

I did not act Rv,acctually your reverting edit is Rv and without giving reasons and explaining summary that why you think it must be reverted. As I am familair to that area of the subject,I know who is who?.There are hundreds of biographical articles of poets,it does not mean you add their names everywhere,you want.Misplaced Pages has a standard and for it requires classical entries,not just an entry.In the article Poetry section Ghazal,should be the image of any classical or prominent poet,not just a poet.And other thing removed subject of image is a comic poet,and section Ghazal requires images of classical and prominent poets of puur ghazal,as like Ghalib, Mir and etc.

Please take a look at Ghazal,then may you understand,why I removed the image.Please do not revert any edit without explaining properly.I have ask, about your Rv reverting,to User:LadyofShalott,her assistance in this regard,after this I will react accordingly.Cheers.Ehsan Sehgal (talk) 18:23, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

I have copied your comment above to Talk:Poetry, as it is relevant to that article and may be of interest to other editors. Please continue any discussion there. Thanks. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 19:14, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Gogyohka

Dear Bagworm, the articles about Korean, Tagalog, French gogyohkas have no sources about them. The link of ATPO has no gogyohka and no articles of it. Take a look at it.So I deleted them. Show us them from any books or any blogs. If you show us them, you can post them in Misplaced Pages. I would agree with you if you could! (Sourcist)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sourcist (talkcontribs) 04:17, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

As the creator of the Death in Paradise (TV series) article, I would just like to thank you in all your efforts doing speller and grammer corrections. Thanks very much Bruno Russell (talk) 18:47, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Happy to have helped, Bruno :-) --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 20:53, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

While editors are encouraged to warn and educate vandals, warnings are by no means necessary for an administrator to block.

To name Basho as a writer of Hokku, when he is known in Japan as writer of Haiku, is the pure vanadalism and crime against Japanese cultural inheritance.--Karate 11:16, 26 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haikago (talkcontribs)

Haikago, your comments have been fully responded to at Talk:Hokku. Since that is the article being discussed, please conduct any discussion there. Thank you. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 11:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Haikago/Karate, I'm moving your most recent post to Talk:Hokku, since that is the article you are attempting to discuss. Please confine your discussion of that article to the relevant talk page, not this page. Thank you. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 12:08, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Name pages

Hi, on a point of detail following this edit, it's only disambiguation pages that are restricted to one blue link per line. Lists of people with a shared name are (hopefully) watched by WP:WikiProject Anthroponymy, and are not covered by MOS:DAB. There is a section which sets out the distinction at MOS:DABNAME. Best wishes – Fayenatic L (talk) 17:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for the heads-up, Fayenatic. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 18:21, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Thanks

Thanks for your edit.

I checked some guides and now I know I should not add external links, but the fact remains the same. I enjoyed reading the article "Haiku in English" and would like to see it's developed by adding Protest Haiku, Atheist Haiku and modern haiku written about human loneliness and mother earth mainly. I would love to help, please let me know how I can be a helping hand for completing the article. Thanks again. Marian74 (talk) 05:09, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Marian. It's great to read of such enthusiasm :-) On your talk page User talk:Marian74, the very first message ("Welcome!") contains very useful links to some fundamental Misplaced Pages guidelines. If you read carefully though them you'll be well-prepared for editing. Best wishes, gråb whåt you cån (talk) 13:03, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Personal attacks

] This is your '''only warning'''; if you make ] on other people again, as you did at ], you may be '''] without further notice'''. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. It is entirely inappropriate to call another editor a "vandal", as you did in an edit summary at Byrne. Don't do that again. Personal attacks of that degree are taken very seriously. 89.100.207.51 (talk) 12:00, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Lol, IP, thanks for the giggle! If you're referring to this edit, you are failing to distinguish between commenting on content and commenting on a contributor. You are continuing to edit against consensus at Byrne, and referring to one of your edits as vandalism is not a personal attack, unlike your personal attack here. More details at Talk:Byrne. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 13:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
You accused me of vandalism. People who engage in vandalism are vandals. Therefore, you called me a vandal. Disagreeing with you is not vandalism. If you dish out personal attacks, you need to be ready to receive them in turn. 89.100.207.51 (talk) 14:45, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
No, I characterised one of your edits as vandalism. If you think this is hair-splitting then you obviously need to brush up on WP guidelines. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 20:40, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
You accused me of vandalism. People who engage in vandalism are vandals. Therefore, you called me a vandal. Disagreeing with you is not vandalism. If you don't realise that people who engage in vandalism are vandals, then you obvioulsy need to brush up on your English. 89.100.207.51 (talk) 22:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Referring to one of your edits as vandalism is a comment on an edit. Calling someone a "dickhead" as you did, is a personal attack. If you choose to call yourself a vandal, that's fine. End of. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 22:54, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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