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| :::All I see is blah blah blah blah. Anybody could frame anybody for anything on here. I'm sticking to my guns, and you can quote me if you'd like. I have not one time messed with the Nickelback page in any way. The edit that the Salvidrim dude showed? Well, it was ludicrous. He made it himself using my profile name just to make it look like I have been tampering with some rock n roll. With that, I'd like to ask why you guys want to take time out of your day just to try to frame me for this? It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm innocent, so what's the problem? Why bother? | |||
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Blackfield
Hey, idk if you get notified of it or w/e since I'm not too big of a Wikipedian but I commented on the Talk page for Blackfield on the whole Members/Musicians thing. --68.46.2.4 (talk) 03:17, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- I get notified. But thanks for checking. I have responded with my two cents. Sergecross73 msg me 03:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Video games articles
WP:GAMECRUFT - That's the term to remember.
32 Leaves
I don't know how to respond so I'll post this here. You can delete if when you've read it. The lead singer is in a band called Codec (Facebook search: Codec Band) and their bio states they broke up in 2010 I think it was. I messaged them a while back and they said via MySpace message that they'd broken up.
Sally
Why did you delete my article? It was my understanding, based on the literally thousands of Marvel and DC character articles, most of which have no popularity, that ALL comic characters get to have individual articles. In any case, Sally is more than notable enough for her own page and has plenty of fan reception (which I understand is now necessary in articles) to talk about. But even if she didn't, she's been around for almost 20 years now and has appeared in almost every issue of her series! How is that not enough appearances for an article?
In any case, I will soon be recreating the article, more finished this time. Please don't touch it or we will have a problem. ResonX (talk) 21:48, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
- Please calm down and take a breather... and lay off the threatening attitude. I don't think it's helpful and it certainly doesn't promoted the kind of collaborative atmophere needed to this project. :) Salvidrim! 22:00, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)I looked at what you wanted to do, and while I am vaguely aware of the character, I doubt seriously this one merits its own article. The thing to remember is, regarding these other comics characters, there are a lot of details about the character's creation and history (both in print and in universe). If you want to make a good case for starting a character-specific article, add your new information to the list of characters article, then if it gets to overwhelm the page, you might (a) get support to separate it out or (b) find most of it is unsourced or otherwise inappropriate and removed. --McDoobAU93 22:14, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
As I said in my edit summary, articles need to meet the WP:GNG in order to avoid being deleted. This means coverage in multiple, reliable, third party sources. The article was sourced by a game screenshot, a unreliable blog, a wikia, and a comic book. That's not coverage in reliable sources. How many Marvel characters have a article is irrelevant to whether or not Sally gets one.
I'd recommend working on simple editing of Misplaced Pages, and basic policy understanding, before taking on writing a whole article, but if you do go for it, work on making it meet the GNG if you want it to stick. Sergecross73 msg me 23:46, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Allow me to explain myself further: Sally USED to have an article, along with dozens of other Sonic characters who are now article–less and hundreds if not thousands of other, unrelated fictional characters like Timmy Turner. I'm not trying to make an unprecedented new article, I'm simply trying to right what was set wrong years ago.
Sally has appeared in nearly every issue of a series that's been around for almost 20 years. Isn't that enough? How many appearances automatically warrants a fictional character an article?
Also, there is tons of fan art and discussions out there about Sally. How much notability is fan art and discussions worth? I'd say a lot. However, you only seem to accept sources like IGN as "notable", and when discussing fan reception on character articles you usually refer to places like that rather than to actual fans. What gives with that?
The Marvel/DC comparison is relevant because of the number of minor and unpopular comic characters from those universes that are allowed to have their own articles while much more popular characters like Sally are denied articles just because their comics aren't as mainstream. That's why I flagged Egg Fu for merging. If you ask me, there should be less than 100 character articles each for Marvel and DC. The rest should be merged.
ResonX (talk) 04:46, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- Sources from "fans", as you say, doesn't make a topic notability. Notability requires "significant coverage in reliable, independant sources"; this excludes passing mentions, sites without established reliability and primary sources. Salvidrim! 04:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- Salvidrim is exactly right. ResonX, please stop making this out to be some sort of huge injustice. It was merged/deleted before, and now, because it didn't meet the WP:GNG. That's Misplaced Pages's criteria for notabilty, that is, it's right to have an article. It doesn't matter if she appears in one issue of a comic, or a million, it's whether or not reliable source provide coverage on her. Reliable sources are professional sites. Like Gamespot or IGN. Not fansites or kids with art or videos on Youtube or something.
- I've looked at old versions of her article, and they were even worse than the one you made, in regards to fulfilling Notability requirements. You need to write it to Misplaced Pages's standard if you want it to stick. I'm not saying its impossible, but I'm saying it hasn't done yet. If you don't like Misplaced Pages's standards for notabilty, I'd suggest working on some Sonic wikia or a fansite or something. These are the rules that have to be followed here. Sergecross73 msg me 11:09, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Wait. Are you telling me that fan content is worth NOTHING WHATSOEVER, regardless of amount? And the same with amount of appearances? ResonX (talk) 01:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- For the sake of notability within Misplaced Pages. I'm glad the point finally got across. :) Salvidrim! 02:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
No, you haven't gotten the point across, and you never will. That is a HORRIBLE mistake, and it is WRONG. It MUST be changed. ResonX (talk) 02:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- I wish you the best of luck changing one of the fundamental traits of Misplaced Pages. In the meantime, follow policy or your changes will be undone. Or go write at a Sonic Fansite, where fan content means something. Sergecross73 msg me 02:52, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Not about Sally anymore.
There are certain facts that can't be sourced by your very specific standards. Does that mean they should be omitted from this site? ResonX (talk) 03:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. Read WP:VERIFY. And these aren't my personal rules, they're Misplaced Pages policy.
- Anyways, no, not everything needs to be sourced, but anything "challenged" does require a source, and if someone is adding tags to an article, then that mean's it's challenged. As such, it needs sources. Sergecross73 msg me 03:24, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Explain this. And, for that matter, most of the other DCAU original characters. Excluding Harley Quinn and Terry McGinnis, none of them have any sources or notability. Why is it that characters from certain things such as DC are allowed to have articles automatically with no "Reception" required while all other works are extremely restricted when it comes to having character articles?
Also, what you say are "fundamental rules of Misplaced Pages" are NOT fundamental rules. They didn't exist until about 2008. Prior to that, pretty much everything could have an article, and it was great!
Finally, a question: What's worth more? One review in a published magazine, or one million fan reviews?
Respond to me ASAP.
ResonX (talk) 23:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Linking to terrible articles does not give a valid reason for creating another terrible article. It means the terrible articles should be deleted. If you want them to be deleted, go for it. There's WP:PROD and WP:AFD. I haven't done it because I honestly don't care about comic book stuff like that. My main interest is video game related, and rock music related. I have no obligation to do anything, let alone go about deleting random terribly written articles. There's just not enough time in the world to go about deleting every random terrible article. So I focus on things of interest. I won't object to you deleting them, in fact, I'd probably support it.
- A fundamental rule of Misplaced Pages is using reliable sources to prove a topic passes the WP:GNG. Fan created artwork does not qualify as a reliable source. I don't know how to address the rest of what you said regarding 2008, I don't know what you're referring to.
- One reliable source is more important than a million fan reviews, unless the fan reviews are covered by a reliable source. (ie if IGN does an article about how ridiculous some fan art is or something, it's worth mentioning. Again, read WP:VERIFY and WP:RS. Sergecross73 msg me 00:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
July 2012
Yes, but this particular album has it's names written in ALL CAPS. It's also copyrighted in all caps, the lyric videos are in all caps, everywhere else, it's all caps except here. This site is the only exception, the odd one out. I don't see why CAPS LOCK bothers you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by L530303 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- It looks sloppy, it looks like "yelling", and on Misplaced Pages, we use standard english, not crazy stylizations or capitalizations. It's policy - See WP:ALLCAPS. Thank you for at least discussion it with me, although you should have done talked it over before edit warring without leaving edit summaries. And you never should have resorted to name calling within the article itself. Sergecross73 msg me 17:24, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Okay your right. Sorry about that. In all honesty, I didn't know know to make edit summaries. It confused me how others were able to do it and I wasn't. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by L530303 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Flipnote Memo
Any News about This slowly app?? Thanks comment by NoobLink 23 July 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 03:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Um, I don't know? Why do you ask me? I've never worked on that article/subject... Sergecross73 msg me 12:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
This Article is already create it by Flipnote Studio page Just talk for first time and u page is great comment by NoobLink July 23 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoobLink (talk • contribs) 17:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Breaking Benjamin
Breaking Benjamin: Do you want to stop deleting my change about Chad Szeliga's interview, I didn't post a link.
- If you look back at the edit history, I only removed your information the times you provided a Youtube link. I didn't remove this one. That being said, I do agree with it's removal, it's rather pointless to say "There's an interview that talks about the band's status". Wouldn't it make more sense to actually say new information is? My recommendation would be to find a reliable source that states what the actual new information is. (Hint: Youtube's not a reliable source. There's too much unverifiable/fake information on there.) Sergecross73 msg me 14:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
It is a real recording you fool? What type of editor doesn't even check the source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike45ij (talk • contribs) 16:09, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- Because Youtube isn't typically a reliable source. There are copyright concerns. Since you were also randomly placing "full album downloads" in the article as well, it seems like a pretty safe bet that you fully disregard copyright concerns.
- Additionally, I removed what you wrote today because all it says is that he doesn't know. What's the point in even mentioning it then? Sergecross73 msg me 16:24, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
You need to try again ma'am. Not only have I never once posted any links to "Album downloads", I posted what Chad had to say about the band. I will continue to keep posting what he has to say, because unlike you, some people actually care about what Chad has/had to say about the band. Lets go back to the "downloads" you said I posted. If you were up to date on Youtube, you would realize that you can't convert any Youtube audio on ANY website anymore. All I posted was a link so you can HEAR the album. Plus, on the video's page, there is a GIANT DISCLAIMER giving all the rights to Breaking Benjamin and Hollywood Records. When did I ever say download? That's right, --I DIDN'T--. Just because "you" think something isn't important, does not mean it isn't. Everybody I have told about Chad's interview was very happy to hear something about Breaking Benjamin. I accept your apologies ma'am, and sorry for any confusion on your part, lets make sure this doesn't happen again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike45ij (talk • contribs) 12:43, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
- Downloads or not, adding random links in articles to unofficial Youtube "full album listens", like you added in this edit, are still copyright violations all the same, and not appropriate to randomly throw into article.
- Secondly, it doesn't matter how many people, for whatever reason, are happy to hear the drummer has no idea on the status of the band, you need to supplya source that Misplaced Pages deems reliable before it can be included in the article. Or it will continue to be removed.
- Thirdly, stop with this silliness of regarding accepting apologies that were not given, or threats that this is not to happen again. It's not helping your case. Sergecross73 msg me 13:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Tales of Legendia
I am not going to do much editting of Tales of Legendia but I would like you to pay more attention to the further reading sections of articles you edit. As you can see in this diff references where already formatted. Please do not use bare URLs as references because of link rot. – Allen4names (IPv6 contributions) 02:54, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, you had a lot going on in that "Further Reading" section of yours, I hadn't noticed that the full citation of the sources was already there amongst all those other links and whatnot, or otherwise I would have used it. Sergecross73 msg me 03:05, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. If you find any reference(s) in a further reading section that are not WP:RS you can remove them with the edit summary "Removing non-] references." as such section should contain only reliable sources. – Allen4names (IPv6 contributions) 15:14, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- Why are you telling me this? I haven't especially spotted any unreliable sources in a "Further Reading" section, and if I did, certainly after 3+ years and 14,000+ edits I know things like removing unreliable sources and what to say in an edit summary... Sergecross73 msg me 15:29, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. If you find any reference(s) in a further reading section that are not WP:RS you can remove them with the edit summary "Removing non-] references." as such section should contain only reliable sources. – Allen4names (IPv6 contributions) 15:14, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Clearing some things up about my view on 'grunge' and AiC
Hey,man greetings,I know that you're concerned about my editings in AiC article,but I'd like to clear some things.You know,I only see grunge as a "scene" that connected some bands who had all went to high school in the same state and traded members once in a while.Alice is clearly a mix of heavy metal (early) transitioning into sludge metal, with elements of stoner and punk mixed in,more like 'grunge' was a mainstream brother of sludge/stoner in 90's that's why bands like Soundgarden,AiC,Tad got lumped in & that's ironic because you take other half of 'grunge' bands who sounded nothing alike.If you are a fan of Alice in Chains & also dig sludge/stoner/southern bands like Crowbar,Alabama Thunderpussy,Fu Manchu,Bongzilla,Monster Magnet etc. you'll come across the similarities,of course,every other band has their own sound,but still it's not hard to find the connection. Metalvayne (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that's not how Grunge is defined on Misplaced Pages. (Look at the article. AiC is mentioned in it heavily. They were part of the grunge genre/movement, whether you or they like it or not.) and you still haven't found a reliable source to back up any of that all that sludge rock/stone rock nonsense. Virtually every edit you do regarding the stuff above is considered original research, and will be continue to be removed if all you have to go by are your personal ramblings on genre... Sergecross73 msg me 15:28, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
"sludge rock/stone rock nonsense." What kind of a statement is that by an experienced Wikipedian like you?? And what the hell is 'Stone Rock' anyway,lol.There are definite articles about both subgenres available here on wiki.Study thoroughly & then jabber. Sludge metal, Stoner rock Metalvayne (talk) 21:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Stop jumping to conclusions. When I say "nonsense", I'm referring to conversations like this one, where you failed time and time again to provide any sort of reliable source that sludge metal is a genre they perform. Sergecross73 msg me 16:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
RfC question
Hi, Sergecross73. I am seriously concerned about the consensus on the RfC for "Top X lists", since we possibly might not gain a clear consensus on the issue presented at the RfC and everyone is not on the same page about the issue presented there. As such, I was wondering if we should take this discussion to WT:VG in order to get a more clearer consensus on this matter or notify WT:VG about the RfC. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:06, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- As you may have seen from my commment, I too, am starting to fear that we're not going to find a consensus on things. I think it could be good to mention at WP:VG. At first I thought it would be redundant to what we had already discussed there, but we had only mentioned the fact that we were going to try to come up with a "WP:NVGCHAR" of sorts, we didn't really discuss the "Top X List" part in particular. So yeah, it may be helpful alert WP:VG on it. Let me know if you'd prefer me or you to say something. Sergecross73 msg me 15:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, then. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've notified the project here. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- And I've also notified the village pump about this here, as well as the Square Enix WikiProject here. Would these help? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:31, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- WP:SE seems a little random, but it doesn't hurt I suppose. Hopefully we can get some more people involved to introduce some new perspectives... Sergecross73 msg me 01:38, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- All righty, then. :) Let's hope this works. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:13, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- Also, I am quite interested in your thoughts posted on my talk page. I also have thoughts about the notability as well. For example, since WP:GNG requires significant coverage, such lists may be used if it goes into significant detail. However, I have also expressed concern that it could be too difficult to adjust the approach since the RfC has been running around for a while, even though I already refactored the question in the RfC earlier. If all else fails, we can take this to dispute resolution. Would that make sense? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not sure what to do either. On one hand, it'd almost be nice to start over with a new RfC with a different approach, preset options, etc, and then just notify people who had commented before to review it and comment again, especially since it's not like we're working towards any sort of consensus as it is. But I don't know if that's acceptable, and I don't want it to look dishonest or anything either, like "we're gonna keep on rewording until we get the answer we want!" - which isn't what we're doing at all, but you never know how people may interpret it. I'm going on vacation for the weekend, so I won't be around to help for the next couple days. So, it's up to you if you want to try something like that, or just wait out a few more days and see if anything else develops,and then take it from there. Sergecross73 msg me 16:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the timely response. By the way, I have already invited User:Torchiest and User:Tintor2 to join the discussion and they have offered their opinions there. As for using Top X lists, I too, have expressed serious concern that we need to explain why a character is so popular in the list, as Masem and Torchiest pointed out in this discussion. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- And I've also notified the proposal village pump about the RfC. Is it acceptable? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:45, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Looks good. I read over the RfC discussion and it doesn't look like I missed much while I was gone... Sergecross73 msg me 02:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah. Not to mention that the previous discussion has been broken down and there is a discussion break there. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Also, while we're still waiting for Masem and the others to respond in the RfC, Kung Fu Man has started a merge discussion over at Talk:Julia Chang#Merge discussion. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Looks good. I read over the RfC discussion and it doesn't look like I missed much while I was gone... Sergecross73 msg me 02:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not sure what to do either. On one hand, it'd almost be nice to start over with a new RfC with a different approach, preset options, etc, and then just notify people who had commented before to review it and comment again, especially since it's not like we're working towards any sort of consensus as it is. But I don't know if that's acceptable, and I don't want it to look dishonest or anything either, like "we're gonna keep on rewording until we get the answer we want!" - which isn't what we're doing at all, but you never know how people may interpret it. I'm going on vacation for the weekend, so I won't be around to help for the next couple days. So, it's up to you if you want to try something like that, or just wait out a few more days and see if anything else develops,and then take it from there. Sergecross73 msg me 16:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- WP:SE seems a little random, but it doesn't hurt I suppose. Hopefully we can get some more people involved to introduce some new perspectives... Sergecross73 msg me 01:38, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Um, I got a feeling that we might need an nonpartisan third-party, such as one of our administrators, to weigh in on this RfC and give their opinion about this. Should we contact one of our administrators about this matter? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:52, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, whatever avenues beyond what we're doing I'd support. I still don't think we're getting anywhere, and so many side-arguments and rants have opened up amongst the discussion that I think it's intimidating most editors out of even trying to start into that mess... Sergecross73 msg me 02:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- I have contacted PresN (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA), an uninvolved administrator, about the matter here and commented at the RfC about uninvolved users/administrators commenting on the situation. This should work, as we do not want stir up too much drama at AN or ANI. But if all else fails, we'll have to take it to WP:ANI or WP:RFM about this matter. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:11, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Also, I have consulted with Berean Hunter (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) about the situation here and I have been told that if I feel that it is that bad, we should follow dispute resolution options or posting in one of the public venues for wider community input. As a precaution, I placed the {{Uninvolved}} tag for help. Hopefully, we will work up a positive solution about this matter. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Did PresN not have any thoughts on this? Anyways, I think you're doing the right thing. Thanks for keeping me updated. Sergecross73 msg me 23:58, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- No problem. :> I am trying to resolve the dispute in accordance with the WP:DR options. By the way, I think PresN might get to the discussion soon enough. Since we're trying to resolve the dispute, we don't want to game the system, as I am a rule-abiding editor. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:11, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Same here, I understand. I may have a stance in things, but I'd rather we find some sort of consensus, even if it's not the one I necessarily want, so we can end the arguing, and so that we can come up with something that can be referenced to in Merger and AFD discussions. I too have been very careful not do to do anything that would break any rules here. Sergecross73 msg me 01:36, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Also, just so you are aware, it looks like an uninvolved user responded in the section break. Hopefully that will cause more uninvolved users to help out. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. Unfortunately, Niemti is up to his old tricks at ANI and I explained my actions. However, I admit that I am clearly frustrated with his accusations and battleground mentality towards me, and I don't want to heat up the situation any further. Can you please take a look at this and voice your opinions on this matter there? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:40, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- Now that Misplaced Pages:Consensus and Misplaced Pages:No consensus has been marked as policies and we have come with a consensus on WT:VG/GL, do you mind if you help work on my proposal? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, of course, I will starting tomorrow. How would you prefer I do it? It's in your userspace...do you want me to directly alter things? Or just suggest things, and you make the alterations? I don't want to step on your toes or anything... Sergecross73 msg me 02:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't mind either one. :-) Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll wait and look it over and see which way makes more sense then. If I do make a direct change, feel free to revert, I won't be offended or anything... Sergecross73 msg me 02:29, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- You may edit my userspace and expand on my proposal. I would also be open to some ideas and suggestions you might have for it. Now then, shall we begin? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:23, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- I apologize, I meant to work on it more today, but life has been quite busy. However, I'll keep making comments on it here and there. I'll start momentarily and we can just kinda go back and forth when we get the chance. Okay? Sergecross73 msg me 01:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, then. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- I apologize, I meant to work on it more today, but life has been quite busy. However, I'll keep making comments on it here and there. I'll start momentarily and we can just kinda go back and forth when we get the chance. Okay? Sergecross73 msg me 01:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- You may edit my userspace and expand on my proposal. I would also be open to some ideas and suggestions you might have for it. Now then, shall we begin? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:23, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll wait and look it over and see which way makes more sense then. If I do make a direct change, feel free to revert, I won't be offended or anything... Sergecross73 msg me 02:29, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't mind either one. :-) Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, of course, I will starting tomorrow. How would you prefer I do it? It's in your userspace...do you want me to directly alter things? Or just suggest things, and you make the alterations? I don't want to step on your toes or anything... Sergecross73 msg me 02:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Also, just so you are aware, it looks like an uninvolved user responded in the section break. Hopefully that will cause more uninvolved users to help out. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Same here, I understand. I may have a stance in things, but I'd rather we find some sort of consensus, even if it's not the one I necessarily want, so we can end the arguing, and so that we can come up with something that can be referenced to in Merger and AFD discussions. I too have been very careful not do to do anything that would break any rules here. Sergecross73 msg me 01:36, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- No problem. :> I am trying to resolve the dispute in accordance with the WP:DR options. By the way, I think PresN might get to the discussion soon enough. Since we're trying to resolve the dispute, we don't want to game the system, as I am a rule-abiding editor. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:11, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Did PresN not have any thoughts on this? Anyways, I think you're doing the right thing. Thanks for keeping me updated. Sergecross73 msg me 23:58, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Vandalism to videogame articles by Belgian IPs
Hi. I see you and some other editors have been struggling with vandalism to our videogame articles from multiple Belgian IPs:
- 178.119.63.108 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 178.117.164.158 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 178.117.164.117 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Please feel free to ask any administrator to block any new accounts at the first sign of more vandalism; make sure they know the history of these other accounts so they don't worry about the new account or IP first having had multiple warnings. If it's the same person, they've had all the warnings and blocks they need to know our rules. Also, if they know this history, an administrator will likely block any new account for a longer period.
Thanks for watching out for our content! --A. B. 17:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I wasn't aware of any background with the IP. I'll be sure to use this if I see similar vandalism popping up again. Sergecross73 msg me 17:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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A. B. 18:02, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
An important notification concerning Metalvayne
I would e-mail you about this, due to the nature of this content, but I couldn't find a way to do that via Misplaced Pages. At 17:12 UTC, Metalvayne, under a sockpuppet last.fm account, left me another public comment mentioning you, and I don't care if I'm being biased, but it's downright creepy. He wrote the following:
| “ | So,I'v found out via one of my sources in States that Sergecross is residing in
XXXX ,haha,tell him that he'll be taken care of. |
” |
You never know about stuff like this, but I recommend that you carry yourself with alertness and awareness on not only Misplaced Pages, but anywhere online, and especially in person. I don't want anything of ill consequence happening to you stemming from this clash on Misplaced Pages. Metalvayne might not try to pull off anything, but that does not mean he won't, because he could. I am going to email, at first, two administrators about this, as well as notify the last.fm staff. Backtable concerning my deeds. 06:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for telling me this. I'm surprised he cares about me at all, considering he doesn't take much seriously on Misplaced Pages. He didn't even bother defending himself at ANI. I appreciate you telling Wiki Admin about this, let me know who you end up notifying...(And thanks for reminding me that I really should add a contact email for this kind of stuff...) Sergecross73 msg me 12:39, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- All right, I'll keep you updated. I have contacted some administrators and the last.fm staff, and per the suggestion of some of the folks I contacted, I think I may contact several more administrators. Sometime soon, I'll shoot you an e-mail with further information. Backtable concerning my deeds. 23:22, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've received your email, and responded to you, and will just respond to you about this through that avenue now if/when needed. Thanks again for contacting of Admins, and the catching of stuff on Lastfm, of which I never really use, and never would have noticed otherwise. Sergecross73 msg me 12:56, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- All right, I'll keep you updated. I have contacted some administrators and the last.fm staff, and per the suggestion of some of the folks I contacted, I think I may contact several more administrators. Sometime soon, I'll shoot you an e-mail with further information. Backtable concerning my deeds. 23:22, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Good work w/ oprainfall
The editor using 99.225.8.89 went too far for whatever reason they thought they could act on. I thought I screwed up the most, but now I know better, and I shouldn't be badmouthing them for not reading all the rules. Still, they didn't ask for anyone's opinion and just replaced the article with that message. That's not exactly right. -017Bluefield (talk) 00:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC) (P.S. You can search for IP address info with the Wolfram|Alpha website)
- No problem, I keep an eye on majority of the pages the IP vandalized, so I caught it pretty quickly. Even if I hated OpRa, that wasn't the right way for the IP to do things, not to mention, I fought hard at AFD to keep the article years ago too... Sergecross73 msg me 01:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Dubious
Hah. I agree with it being removed, but I did kinda get a chuckle out of "will be built" being "dubious" in the Ouya article. -- ferret (talk) 19:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ha, I did too. I just didn't let on in my edit summary in case the person was actually serious, and/or so I didn't encourage more/worse vandalism. It was kinda funny though. Sergecross73 msg me 20:19, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Sup
I think you're mistaken. I never used profanity on the Nickelback page. As a matter of fact, I never edited anything on the Nickelback page to begin with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RickWilliams75 (talk • contribs) 02:17, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'm amazed you can keep a straight face while spouting such blatant lies! Salvidrim! 02:26, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- Well, any thoughts on what Salvidrim has to say? Seems he's disproved everything you just said... Sergecross73 msg me 03:00, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- All I see is blah blah blah blah. Anybody could frame anybody for anything on here. I'm sticking to my guns, and you can quote me if you'd like. I have not one time messed with the Nickelback page in any way. The edit that the Salvidrim dude showed? Well, it was ludicrous. He made it himself using my profile name just to make it look like I have been tampering with some rock n roll. With that, I'd like to ask why you guys want to take time out of your day just to try to frame me for this? It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm innocent, so what's the problem? Why bother?
- Well, any thoughts on what Salvidrim has to say? Seems he's disproved everything you just said... Sergecross73 msg me 03:00, 5 September 2012 (UTC)