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Soviet space program(me)s

Hi Bushranger. Again, I admire your attempt to standardize spelling of program/programme in Soviet space articles. If you want to run with the suggested argument that American English is more appropriate and request moves accordingly, do let me know. Thanks, BDD (talk) 18:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I'll ponder it for a bit. :) - 19:31, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

You are entitled to know

I think, by longstanding convention, we are all supposed to tell other contributors when they are mentioned, by name, in a discussion.

You were recently discussed, in Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2012 August 17#Muhammad Rahim.

I honestly don't remember placing the {{db-g7}}. As I explained in the DRV, the sheer number of {{afd}} has me rattled. But I do trust that the deletion was authorized by a speedy tag I just don't remember placing.

Someone in the DRV said you deserved the assumption of good faith in this, and I concur. Geo Swan (talk) 22:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Requesting legitimate reasons for the deletion of 2 football articles?

Yes hello editor and fellow wiki-user,

I had recently created two football articles for players based in the United States and Liechtenstein, but both articles have been deleted. I'd like to have legitimate reasons as to why these articles were targeted, had requests to be deleted at the same time, and then were deleted without conversation?

The only reason that I have been given so far was a concern that I read, which was not a concern at all as far as I am concerned, and was as follows: " concern was: Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in fully pro league.)". I understand the second part of this 'statement' as there is truth to the fact that both of these players are not paid professionals currently, however, to just make a statement saying "Article about a footballer who fails" is not only poorly written but it's also quite flippant.

I happen to have a working relationship with the football club 'Orange County Blue Star' that the player 'David Ponce' plays for, and if you read the Orange County Blue Star article you'll see that he has been mentioned in the clubs history and is also on their current roster. The club plays in the United States soccer league system for the 'USL Premier Development League', where the Blue Star are a highly regarded club. The team has had many players, both past and present, that have started their careers at this club and have made names for themselves. I believe that since David Ponce has been mentioned in that particular article with such highly regarded players, that he also deserves to have his own article as well.

The other player, 'Diego Haas', of Liechtenstein, has also been deleted. When I created the article of Diego, it was around the time that he was still eligible to play for the 'Liechtenstein national under-21 football team', and he had several caps for this team at that particular time. At one time in his football career, he was regarded as one of the best youth players in the country and he had played for the club 'FC Vaduz' as well as 'FC Balzers' and he is now currently playing for 'FC Triesen'. All of these teams are Liechtensteiner football clubs and are part of the seven official teams in the nation. In his career so far, he has played for three of the seven clubs in the country and he has only recently turned 24 years of age. Furthermore, all of these clubs play in Swiss Football League and compete in the Liechtenstein Cup annually, which means that the clubs and the player himself have significance. He is also on the FC Triesen roster on the website that they have and the wikipedia article as well.

The player David Ponce is still currently at University, but in 2013 he will most likely be playing professional football. I know this privileged information because I am involved with the club, however, further information regarding that matter will not be discussed further because it is privileged information as I said.

Can both of these articles please be allowed to be reinstated? I feel like both were misjudged. I put a lot of work into writing those articles and had put in my best efforts to make them look excellent for this website. I would like to add that there are far worse articles that I have read on wikipedia, not only about football, but other matters in the world as well.

A swift reply would be greatly appreciated, thank youPatrick.shea9 (talk) 06:15, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

• First of all, the "fails" statement isn't flippant - it means they do not pass (fail) the general notability guideline. In addition, they don't pass WP:NFOOTY - the alternative to the GNG that says in order to have an article on Misplaced Pages, a footballer must have played in a fully professional league. Being "most likely to play professional football with the club" doesn't pass muster as Misplaced Pages is not a crystal ball. Now, as for why these particular articles were deleted, there is the Proposed Deletion system, in which an article is tagged and, if no objections are raised over the course of a week, they are deleted. The articles were tagged, a week passed without objection, and, therefore, they will be deleted. From your comments, you observed that the articles were tagged for deletion (the "not a concern at all" statement), and did not remove the prod tag (which is permitted if you object), therefore you de facto agreed that they should be deleted.

As for your comments regarding "there are far worse articles" and "since David Ponce has been mentioned in that particular article with such highly regarded players, that he also deserves to have his own article as well", the fact that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS does not mean an article should exist. (Also please note that you appear to have a conflict of interest with regards to working for the club, so please mind the guideline there in your editing.)

Now, that said, I'd be happy to restore the articles, however I must caution you that if the articles are restored to articlespace, they're almost certain to be nominated for deletion, and it's virtually certain that neither of them would survive an AfD nomination. As an alternative, I can restore the articles to your own userspace as "sandbox"/draft pages, which, upon the players reaching the level at which they pass the GNG and/or NFOOTY standards, they can be moved back to articlespace then. So I can do that, as an alternative, if you'd like. (Note that if you'd prefer they be restored to articlespace, that's alright, but they're very likely to be more conclusively deleted if that's your choice.) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:43, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Sputnik

Hello! You changed your opinion if Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Sputnik (web browser) from merge to keep. Could you please return to this discussion and leave some explanation? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 10:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Tweaked a little. It's more a "gut feeling" than anything else - very weak, yes, but it's the best I can do... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:52, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

FYI

FYI--DBigXray 12:51, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: AN/I notice...

Thanks for the heads up. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:52, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

No prob. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

List of airlines of India

A mini-edit war is breaking out. One editor wants to keep putting in material which only he supports and four editors(me included) don't believe should be put in the article. Check the article's talk page section titled Market share, and his talk page. I'm stepping away from this until you weigh in on the matter....William 20:13, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

FYI, the editor brought it to ANI....William 20:27, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

He reverted the article again. I reported it to the 3RR board but left the last edit alone....William 22:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Replied at AN/I. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:09, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

The Bride Came C.O.D.

As an antidote to all the cr*p you have to deal with, here is a little delightful, aviation-themed, romantic comedy with the unlikely pairing of James Cagney and Bette Davis. The fun is finding out that Davis actually took a tumble into a cactus and had 45 quills unceremoniously pulled out of her behind. The director left the inadvertent event in the final film. FWiW, check out the changes made in the original (very teeny) article. Bzuk (talk) 20:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC).

Quite the refresher! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:10, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

ArbCom request: Men's rights, WP:TITLE, User:KillerChihuahua

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Men's rights, WP:TITLE, User:KillerChihuahua and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Requests for Arbitration;
• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide.

Thanks,

Noetica 03:33, 19 August 2012 (UTC)