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| Mr. Fresco takes 100% credit for inventing the term. So its a neologism an invented word invented recently by a group that hounds people for money on the internet that no one has written seriously about except themselves and it obvious the two editors here have some stake in the information, maybe from another subgroup of resource based Fresco style group or another. Misplaced Pages a place to promote this kind of thing? No. ] (]) 01:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC) | Mr. Fresco takes 100% credit for inventing the term. So its a neologism an invented word invented recently by a group that hounds people for money on the internet that no one has written seriously about except themselves and it obvious the two editors here have some stake in the information, maybe from another subgroup of resource based Fresco style group or another. Misplaced Pages a place to promote this kind of thing? No. ] (]) 01:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
| :OK, fine, so you hate these groups. Very well. Now go learn ], and come back. Then we'll talk. Your comments above show that you have no idea of Misplaced Pages policies, and in fact you break ] of ]. The ridicolous paranoia doesn't help. --] (]) 06:35, 28 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Resource-based economy
1. Both The Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement have their own pages and are clearly notable. 2. Notability is about articles, not bits in an article. 3. The Venus projects official web page is a reliable source on what the Venus Project officially say. --OpenFuture (talk) 16:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. --Loremaster (talk) 22:04, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- Correction: I agree with points 1 and 2 but I disagree with point 3 because I think we need an independent reliable source that confirms that both the Venus Project and the Zeitgeist Movement use the term “resource-based economy”. Can you help me find such a source? --Loremaster (talk) 14:37, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- I can look, but the current reference is enough to show that TVP uses it, although admittedly it doesn't show that the Zietgeist movement does. --OpenFuture (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
tandem editing
Obvious that you are tandem editors from the history of the article and probably members of the groups in question. Also the article was deleted previously in an article for deletion because it is not a notable reference.
Also 1. Both The Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement have their own pages and are clearly notable. Wrong. Being on Misplaced Pages does not mean jack shit and it is not a reliable source. Misplaced Pages is not a reliable source.
2. Notability is about articles, not bits in an article. Wrong. You can not create an article and then add some phony internet group begging for money and call that notable.
3. The Venus projects official web page is a reliable source on what the Venus Project officially say. Wrong. Who knows? Its just another site or sites with pay pal buttons that might just be scamming little old ladies out of their milk money. This article probably merits a speedy delete.
I assume you are both involved with this group? 175.100.41.47 (talk) 12:39, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- LOL! For the record, I'm neither a member of The Venus Project nor The Zeitgeist Movement. In fact, I'm quite critical of both. The former for being techno-utopian and the latter for promoting conspiracy theories. However, regardless of our opinion of Venus and Zeitgeist, they are both notable enough to have Misplaced Pages articles about them according to Misplaced Pages guidelines. Furthermore, I do not know User:OpenFuture online or offline and I'm not editing in tandem with him or her. I therefore suggest you stop with the accusations and respect talk page guidelines, specifically the ones encouraging you to assume good faith and avoid personal attacks. That being said, I only agree with you to the extent that we need an independent reliable source to confirm that both Venus and Zeitgeist use the term “resource-based economy”. Lastly, the Resource-based economy article itself was deleted only when it focused exclusively on the use of the term by Venus and it was deemed that this use did not merit a lenghty and comprehensive article. It has now been turned into a disambiguation page that focuses on all the different definitions of the term. A one-sentence reference to the use of the term by Venus should be cause for concern. This article therefore should not be deleted, especially since we could argue that the first definition of term probably merits a lenghty and comprehensive article. --Loremaster (talk) 14:33, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Spare me the l.o.l please. Also I now assume you are involved with the resource based economy groups of one kind or another, probably both of you and that is why you are now ridiculing Fresco and Zeitgeist. Also the article is a clear candidate for a speedy delete. It has incarnated a couple of times by you and your editing partner. You originated it again and it is totally clear what you are doing here. Your promoting directly or indirectly a neologism phrase of words and here is the proof of that http://thevenusproject.com/the-venus-project/resource-based-economy
Mr. Fresco takes 100% credit for inventing the term. So its a neologism an invented word invented recently by a group that hounds people for money on the internet that no one has written seriously about except themselves and it obvious the two editors here have some stake in the information, maybe from another subgroup of resource based Fresco style group or another. Misplaced Pages a place to promote this kind of thing? No. 175.100.40.27 (talk) 01:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
- OK, fine, so you hate these groups. Very well. Now go learn how Misplaced Pages works, and come back. Then we'll talk. Your comments above show that you have no idea of Misplaced Pages policies, and in fact you break several of them. The ridicolous paranoia doesn't help. --OpenFuture (talk) 06:35, 28 February 2012 (UTC)