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Coverage

There's some confusion about level of coverage. The article title is "sturgeon", which probably equates best with the family Acipenseridae. The lead and taxobox suggest that the genus Acipenser is covered; however the article goes on to mention fish in the genus Huso, so perhaps the subfamily Acipenserinae is meant. Gdr 16:16, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

The article is rather misleading, as it mainly deals with the genus Acipenser (both text and taxobox), while the name "sturgeon" is used for *all* members of the family Acipenseridae. Either this article should be modifed so it covers the entire family, or the current content should be moved to Acipenser, with sturgeon instead being a redirect to the family. 212.10.84.33 (talk) 13:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Sacred sturgeon

Are there any references to the "Sacred Sturgeon"? I cannot find any references elsewhere on any of its supposed names or scientific name. While the names of fish are often pretty silly, "supreme overlord sturgeon" seems to push the envelope. Anyone else think this was just jokingly added? -I am removing this entry, as there has been no response and I am completely unable to find any reference to it.

Size of Huso huso

Huso huso is the largest of all sturgeons and the largest fish which swims from the sea in freshwater, but it doesn´t reach lengths of 7m the longest specimens which were ever caught (and not only specimens from big-fish-stories which were said that somebody caught them) were a bit over 5m and in fact about 1200kg in weight. A hypothetical huso of 7m would have a weight of about 3tons or more.

Number of Genera of Sturgeon

Why do we keep saying that there are only two genera of sturgeons, Acipencer and Scaphirhynchus, even though the entry for Family Acipenceridae mentions Huso, and that there is information about a fourth genus, Pseudoscaphirhynchus?--Mr Fink 03:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)23 species

Update badly needed

This article is seriously out of date as it is based on the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. I have added a couple of short notes but much more could and should be said about the threats faced by sturgeon.John Hill 10:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. This is a terrible citation. When else have we ever seen a 1911 encyclopedic citation as the primary reference? Tgm1024 16:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I also agree that an update is needed. This article claimes that Sturgeons don't inhait tropical regions, but we definatly have them here in South Florida! There also needs to be more info on the dangers of an attack.

"Dangers of an attack"- from a sturgeon??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.106.108.201 (talk) 21:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

"Attack" is the wrong word, but one used by newspaper writers to sensationalize their headlines/articles. Almost all species of sturgeon jump. Hitting a 300 pound animal with sharp "bony" plates while travelling 30-40 miles per hour on a boat/jet ski can lead to serious injuries to the boater. See some of the sourcing at Gulf sturgeon. GRBerry 13:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup

Should be more structured and in conjunction with subset articles like White_sturgeon. Manasl 23:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Toxicology Update

I believe that there are also some toxicology reports pertaining to the preparation, cooking and consumption of the Sturgeon. If anyone has this information, is it possible to post this please? I feel this would be a very good and highly beneficial portion to add to the information already given. Cnj6768 07:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

uses?

since this is an article on an animal, wouldn't it make sense for "uses" to be last instead of first? i would think that most people coming to read about sturgeon want to know about how the animal lives, not what people use it for.

I added some more information on the biology and habitat of the sturgeon, and provide some references. I would suggest that the "uses" section be seriously revised/expanded/developed - it seems pretty incoherent and disjointed and repetitive as it is. no? - Best, Eliezg (talk) 11:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Proposed Merge

The article is rather misleading, as it mainly deals with the genus Acipenser (both text and taxobox), while the name "sturgeon" is used for *all* members of the family Acipenseridae. Either this article should be modifed so it covers the entire family, or the current content should be moved to Acipenser, with sturgeon instead being a redirect to the family. 212.10.84.33 (talk) 13:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

As the recent comment above points out, there were contradictions in the article as to what group the term "sturgeon" refers to. I edited the taxobox and the "Species" section to reflect all of the Aceipenserids as opposed to solely the genus Acipenser. I also eliminated the outdated Britannica 1911 taxonomy with great prejudice. Consequently, it seems that this article should be merged with Acipenseridae, since both articles now cover the exact same group of fish. I do not know the formal mechanism for proposing or effectuating a merge - perhaps someone can help? Arguments for this broadening of the term are that (a) the whole family has many of the same basic features associated with "sturgeon"-ness, (b) the "Scaphirhynchinae" are all commonly called sturgeon, (c) and the Beluga and Kaluga are very intimately associated with the main economic reason people are interested in sturgeon and it would be weird to have a general discussion that omits them. Thoughts? -- Eliezg (talk) 21:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Mergers are usually done via cut and paste (as opposed to moves, which should be done via the move function). In this case, I didn't see anything on the Acipenseridae which wasn't already in the Sturgeon article, so I made the former a redirect to the latter. Cheers, -TeaDrinker (talk) 21:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It should be noted that many of the foreign language links (at least Russian, German and French) still refer to genus Acipenser and should technically be changed. Meanwhile, the Portuguese page has cheerily referred to Acipenseridae all these months while the Finnish link appears to describe solelyA. sturio It doesn't particularly bother me, but let it be noted. Best, Eliezg (talk) 08:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Popular Culture

I erased the "Sturgeon in popular culture" section for all the standard Misplaced Pages-frowns-on-trivia and it-doesn't-contribute-to-the-topic reasons. If anyone feels strongly that they should be replaced, I grudgingly present them below. Cheers, Eliezg (talk) 08:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

External Link

I erased the following external link that was added to the article:

• World's largest sturgeon -- from Field & Stream

It was reinserted, and I removed it again. So it doesn't happen a third time, a discussion is in order. My reasons for removing it are primarily that it is a popular article geared towards sport fishermen on White sturgeon in the lower Columbia River, pivoting on an anecdote about a fisherman getting a heart-attack from from the incredible size of a fish. As such, it does not contribute to the subject of sturgeon writ large, though it might have a place in the white sturgeon article. Also the name was misleading - the white sturgeon is NOT the world's largest. The purpose of this article is to give an overview of the sturgeon family and a springboard for access to the species articles, not to be a clearinghouse for all mention of sturgeon in the media.
Support removal. Eliezg (talk) 21:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

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hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.27.238 (talk) 18:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Cutting "Uses" section

I radically shortened and/or cut most of the "Uses" section, as it was a random mishmash partially derived from the 1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica and miscellaneous media/cultural stuff. I add the cut text below, for the record. - Eliezg (talk) 21:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

In Russia, sturgeon fisheries are of immense value. Early in summer the fish migrate into the rivers or towards the shores of freshwater lakes in large shoals for breeding purposes. The ova are very small, and so numerous that one female has been calculated to produce about three million in one season. The ova of some species have been observed to hatch within very few days after exclusion. In sturgeons that have attained maturity their growth appears to be much slower, although continuing for many years. Frederick the Great placed a number of them in the Garder See Lake in Pomerania about 1780; some of these were found to be still alive in 1866. Professor von Baer also states, as the result of direct observations made in Russia, that the Hausen (Acipenser huso) attains an age of 100 years, but can live over 210 years.

In the United Kingdom, where as little as six are caught per year, sturgeon was included as a royal fish by an act of King Edward II, although it probably only rarely graces the royal table of the present period, or even that of the Lord Mayor of London, who can claim all sturgeons caught in the Thames above London Bridge. According to the law, any person who catches sturgeon must first offer them to the reigning monarch. Such an event took place in Wales in the Summer of 2004, which caused some confusion as protected species are not allowed to be sold, despite the fact that the Queen had given the fisherman permission to dispose of the fish "as he saw fit".

Where sturgeons are caught in large quantities, as on the rivers of southern Russia and on the great lakes of North America, their flesh is dried, smoked or salted. The ovaries, which are of large size, are prepared for caviar. They are beaten with switches, and then pressed through sieves, leaving the membranous and fibrous tissues in the sieve, whilst the eggs are collected in a tub. The quantity of salt added to them before they are finally packed varies with the season, scarcely any being used at the beginning of winter. Finally, one of the best sorts of isinglass is manufactured from the airbladder. After it has been carefully removed from the body, it is washed in hot water, and cut open in its whole length, to separate the inner membrane, which has a soft consistency, and contains 70% of gluten.

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For consideration - photographs and rare footage of pallid sturgeon in the wild, as well as important interviews, and much more.....

If the editors overseeing the sturgeon articles feel it would prove beneficial to the work, I can provide some rare photographs, and links to some excellent resource material which includes several video segments featuring underwater footage of sturgeon, some of which includes rare underwater footage of pallid sturgeon in the wild. There is also a segment documenting the actual landing of a pallid sturgeon on the Yellowstone River with close-ups of the fish while it is being weighed and tagged. It would probably be considered a COI if I personally added anything to the sturgeon articles, or uploaded the photos myself, so I am presenting it to the editors for consideration. An example of the segments include informative interviews as follows: (a) Mark Bain of Cornell University discussing Atlantic sturgeon. The interview is accompanied by footage of Atlantic sturgeon being landed, tagged, measured, etc.; (b) an informative interview about green sturgeon with Pat Foley, PhD, Evolutionary Genetics, & Conservation Biology at UC at Davis. The interview includes excellent close-ups of green sturgeon; (c) an informative interview with Boyd Kynard, Fisheries Research Biologist, regarding some of the successful recovery efforts of shortnose sturgeon which includes footage of field testing, tagging, artificial propagation, close ups of the fish, etc. (d) There's also a segment showing actual lake sturgeon spawning on the Wolf River, and much more. The segments are from the one-hour documentary, Sturgeon: Ancient Survivors of the Deep", to which I hold the original copyright. The documentary covers 7 of the 8 North American species of sturgeon. (The Alabama sturgeon was not included for two reasons: first, there were none in captivity at the time, and its designation as a species was yet to be finalized). Wiki editors can review some of the above segments in the Sturgeon Gallery at the Earthwave Society website. The full length one-hour documentary is also available for viewing on the EarthwaveSociety channel on YouTube. I think inclusion of the photographs and reference links to the video segments will prove beneficial to the articles, especially considering most of the interviews in the documentary are with renowned researchers and fish biologists, some of whom helped write the books and did the research papers that are being referenced as some of Misplaced Pages's resources. I thank you for your time, and anxiously await your response.

1. "Sturgeon is back and museum-bound". Wales, United Kingdom: BBC. BBC. 5 June 2004. Retrieved 16 June 2010.

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