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- And yet, here we are again. To Criticism of the Israeli government, you added a "see also" wikilink to our article about the logical fallacy named straw man. I think it was C.S. Lewis who said that he'd rather play cards with someone who didn't cheat at cards than with someone who was just morally earnest about not cheating at cards. Likewise, I'd rather you kept your promise to recuse yourself from editing controversial articles than, every time it's pointed out to you that you've violated it, just saying you shouldn't have done it. How many "slips", as you call them, does this latest edit bring the total to? The number is high enough that, for me, I'm finding it next to impossible to go on assuming that you intend to keep this promise, especially with this latest edit coming so soon after we just completed (as I thought) the above discussion, and in just the same exact topic area.
- You need to revert your edit, and to keep your promise, going forward, without it being necessary for other editors to keep constant watch to make sure that you do. Your ban from controversial topics is, as you've rightly observed, self-imposed, at present. Please don't waste any more of your fellow editors' time by requiring us to go through a whole new round of sturm und drang at ANI to make it formal. I'm sure your fellow editors are very, very tired by now of seeing your actions bring you there, and I doubt you much care for the experience, either. I'm not going to take this latest "slip" to ANI, but even one more breach of your promise, large or small, and you'll leave me no alternative. Reply if you like, but I don't see any point in repeating the civil "oops, I did it again" language you've used so many times in the past. Just as you wish, of course, but any more of that kind of response isn't going to make the least impression on me: I've heard it far too many times before. – OhioStandard (talk) 09:39, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I see you haven't been online. Another editor evidently noticed your "straw man" edit, and reverted it. – OhioStandard (talk) 20:13, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have two notices on my talk page, one in normal mode and one that comes up in edit mode, that indicate my preference that a discussion be kept on the page where it began, to preserve the continuity of the thread. I'd appreciate it if you'd adhere to that, and would stop posting replies to this thread on my talk page. Once again, I've copied the message you posted to my talk page here, below. – OhioStandard (talk) 07:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- I not understand how the straw man edit was related to the issue about the One state solution. Is there a problem with me editing in this whole topic? I think our misunderstanding is rooted in the fact that you thought I am banned from editing the whole Israel-Palestinian topic. I will do my best to shy away from specific articles that do seem to be in a contentious editing pattern, but I think that you were assuming I would move away from the whole topic altogether. I am happy to do so, if you communicate in a way that convinces me that I am somehow not editing constructively on this topic. I have ceased from editing the One state solution per your request, and I welcome any comments you might have in regards to this issue.-- Novus Orator 02:52, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- There's nothing remotely ambiguous or hard to understand about the offer you made to avoid sanctions previously, and I'll not go round and round with you while you pretend there is. I quote:
- The only words I'm interested in hearing from you are, "I agree to abide by the promise I made." Nothing else: no additions, no qualifications, modifications, or hedges, no arguing, no more temporizing, and no more debate. Say that, keep to it, and we're done. Say anything else and we'll be back at ANI to see whether admins will formalize and enforce the offer and promise you made to avoid a block or ban last time. – OhioStandard (talk) 08:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Okay...I will abide by promise I made. As to the ban, its already in place for other topic areas, and I certainly do not want to see it expanded. Cheers!-- Novus Orator 08:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- The affect of the informal agreement you made re what you edit will have to be just as if it had been formally expanded; it just won't be recorded in the logs, is all. That, and reaffirming your agreement here saves both you and the community the strife of another round at ANI, and circumvents the possibility that instead of just formalizing and recording what you previously agreed to, the community might elect to block or ban you entirely. I'll have nothing more to say about this, but be advised that I will not issue another warning before posting to ANI if I see you disregard what you've promised. – OhioStandard (talk) 09:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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I fear it will be difficult to keep the Austrian School page free from the vandalism of BigHex and LK. They are ideologically invested in deleting as much austrian material from WP as possible and discredit all that is left. Misessus (talk) 19:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Terra. I've warned both Misessus and BigK against edit warring, as did another editor, and Missessus for referring to the good-faith contributions of other editors as "vandalism" merely because s/he disapproves of BigK's take on the issues. I notice you've been very active on the Austrian School article, as well, although I haven't taken the trouble to examine the content of your contributions there. I did want to just take a moment, though, to mention that both editors are running the risk of a block for their behavior over their dispute, and to suggest that you might consider steering clear of the fray. Best, – OhioStandard (talk) 23:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Barnstar!
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For your fine development of Reaction Engines Skylon. Your work is much appreciated! – OhioStandard (talk) 14:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC) |
File:T-95.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:T-95.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 19:24, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Discussion of Federal Reserve System
I think the main question is: Is it a government owned bank or not? If it is not owned by the government it is private, end of story. I came here looking for closure on that question and it was not here.Wolfenstein (talk) 03:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- As explained in the article, and in archives, over and over, "it" is not "a bank." So, "it" cannot be a "government owned bank" or a "privately owned bank."
"It" is the Federal Reserve System. Properly speaking, it's the central banking SYSTEM of the United States, not the central "bank." There are two parts of the system consisting of banks, and other parts of the system consisting of government agencies.
1. The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is not a "bank." It's a government agency.
2. The Federal Open Market Committee is not a "bank." It's a government agency.
3. The 12 Federal Reserve Banks are not "a bank." They are TWELVE banks.
4. Wells Fargo Bank is "a bank." And it's a "member bank" in the Federal Reserve System. It's one of many "member banks." It is "privately owned."
All these things are PARTS of the Federal Reserve System. Item 1 is not the System. Item 2 is not the System. Item 3 is not the System. Item 4 is not the System. The System is THE WHOLE THING.
Earth is not the Solar System. Mars is not the Solar System. The Sun is not the Solar System. These are only PARTS of the Solar System.
No offense intended, but the question of whether the Federal Reserve System is a "government owed bank" or a "privately owned bank" is a MEANINGLESS QUESTION. The System is not "a bank" to begin with. Only the "bank parts of it" are "banks."
Unfortunately, even people at the Fed will sometimes refer to the Fed as the "central bank." That just causes more confusion.
I have seen people raise this question about whether the Fed is "government owned" or "privately owned" here in Misplaced Pages over and over and over and over again since I began editing here in late 2005. No matter how clearly the article is written, we will probably never stop getting these kinds of questions. There is something about the subject itself that generates these questions. Famspear (talk) 05:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- The confusion also arises from the bloat and inefficiency that comes from this bureaucracy created on Jekyll Island by some of the most powerful (and corrupt) financiers in history. The reality is complex-As the Federal Reserve is largely influenced by the most powerful (e.g. the big five banks), those who it is supposed to serve equally end up losing out. It all stems from the fact that a Central Banking system can never conduct a rational empirical analysis that effectively predicts and models a economy's behavior. The government's only role in the economy should be enforcing contracts and protecting private property. Whenever the government tries to take over an inherently irrational process like a market (instead of protecting the rights of the individual to choose for themselves) the consumer ends up losing out. Though this subject is interesting, I am reminded of WP:Not a forum, so I must differ to my talk page if anyone wants to discuss this further...-- Novus Orator 05:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of Reaction Engines Skylon
The article Reaction Engines Skylon you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Reaction Engines Skylon for eventual comments about the article. Well done! Jezhotwells (talk) 01:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)