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Admin?

I saw your post at WT:DYK and was astounded to find you aren't an administrator already. I'd be happy to give a nomination if you would like to get the mop. Ed  08:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

You're the second person to suggest that this week! o.o I'm flattered, but I'm not sure I have the proper personality type to deal with the stuff admins have to go through, to be honest - I get stressed out pretty easily sometimes. But maybe once RL gets a bit less stressful (long story) I'll give it another thought. Thanks though! :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, you don't have to engage in the 'normal' admin stuff – you're allowed to only use your tools at DYK. :-) Look how often I use mine! Still, if that's your decision, so be it. Just know that my offer won't expire, feel free to ask for a nom anytime. Ed  08:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, that could be nifty. In that case, I may give it a further ponder when it isn't almost 4am. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Fine by me. I'm going back to homework so I can go to bed before 5am :P Ed  08:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

But sleep is for the weak! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

If this were Facebook, I'd 'like' that comment. As it stands, I get ten hours on weekends and 4-5 (6 if I'm lucky) on weekdays. Ed  08:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

What with the Signpost just running an article about a lack of admins, it seems a shame for you to not take up the tools. If you're worried about stressful conflict, just use them for relatively non-controversial administrative tasks, such as making DYK tick over. At the point where everyone assumes you're an admin, it's disruptive to the project to actively thwart their expectations by refusing the mop. As with Ed above, I would be happy to nominate or co-nominate you; all it takes is for you to say that you'll (reluctantly, if necessary) go to to RfA with us. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

It's either that or we knock you over the head and drag you feet-first to RfA. Your choice. :p Ed  05:48, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Kicking and screaming? :P I'll probably accept the mop (if only to turn it into a broom - inside joke there with one of my f(r)iends), so if y'all want to RfA me in the morning, well, why not? :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Woot! Ed, if you've done one of these before, I'll leave the nomination to you, but if you feel it will be helpful please feel free to append my name as co-nominator. If I see you haven't done it when I come on again in about 14 hours, I'll do it myself. - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I've done it once before, over at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/NativeForeigner. I'm creating it now -- if you want to co-nom, feel free to add one. :-) Ed  06:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

P.S. You should create this page with any content to satisfy the RfA edit-count lovers... (see ) Ed  06:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

And there it is. I know you've been around the block and know what's up at RfA, but reminders can't hurt. ;-) Do not lose your cool, no matter what people say. My email is always open for venting. Try not to respond to many opposers. Be sure to brush up on the relevant policy (or -ies) before answering a question. Good luck! Ed  07:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

And I've already supported... --Perseus8235 17:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Bushranger, would you like to transclude it? Ed  20:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah, so that's how it works. Think I did it right! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you did -- good luck! Ed  23:09, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Heh, yeah, that was my bad there. I meant to "bow out gracefully" one post before I did, and clearly I made one post more than I should have given the WikiStress level (which has now dropped significantly, just in time to go "oops"...). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Re:DYK nomination of Tropical Storm Hubert

Thanks for reviewing the hook, I've responded to your comments. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:27, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem! And it looks good to go. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 11:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Finland Blue

Hi there I wondered if you could take moment to weigh in on a discussion were having here regarding the color of a military aircraft insignia Thank you Jetijonez (talk) 20:14, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I'll have a look. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Email question at RfA

Hi. You may be interested in contributing to or following this discussion. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:34, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Manx2 Flight 7100 DYK

Re your comments, editing has now settled down, so this should now be ready for a tick. Mjroots (talk) 07:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Politically Incorrect

Love that userbox you got :) Caden 13:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Joe Baugher

What's this crap about Joe Baugher not being a RS? Just because he's a hobbyist does not make him unreliable. The sheer quantity of info presented would indicate that he takes the subject seriously and would therefore be reliable enough to use. This is backed up by his list of over 4,200 references. Mjroots (talk) 20:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Baugher has been raised at WP:RSN - . I see no consensus that he is not reliable there either. Mjroots (talk) 21:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

There's also the fact that he's been published as an expert in the field... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

That is the perfect way to prove something is reliable. Nice work. Ed  23:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Ed. Unfortunatly, the editor in question isn't accepting the argument. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

He's already proved he's classless by bringing it up at your RFA as his major objection point. Sad. That's an issue better mentioned there in passing, and dealt with in detail elsewhere. But that seems par for the course for RFAs, and one reason I don't generally participate in them. I hope this doesn't torpedo the nom (I've seen minor issues hyped to the point that they have done so in the past), as we could certainly use another admin in WPAIR, even jsut for maintence issues such as page moves. Good luck. - BilCat (talk) 23:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

That'd be a she, and Sandy is one of the delegates at WP:FAC. Let's not go overboard and attack her – that's not going to help anything, least of which Bushranger's RfA. She has a major concern, and whether it is legitimate or not (in our eyes), we need to try to address it. I think RS/N is the next step, so that neutral editors can assess the site. Otherwise we will continue to rehash the same points. Ed  23:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

My problem is that it's not an issue unique to BR, as the further discussions have proven. It's still classless behavior, whether or not it is the norm for an RFC. Again, that's a major reason why I don't participate. As to her being an FAC delegate, perhaps that should be dealt with too. - BilCat (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

But you are right that I shouldn't have called her "classless" directly any more than she should be calling editors who use Baugher "lazy" - I'm sure you've already warned her for that as a good admin, right? - BilCat (talk) 00:33, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Nope, because I respect her opinion, even if I don't fully agree with how she is presenting it. Plus, in the grand scheme of things, constructing a strawman argument to call it "lazy" isn't a PA against a specific person and isn't the worst we have ever seen or faced. Ed  04:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

No, it was an attack against the project as a whole, and made on nearly venuue in which she raised this issue, and usually several times at each venue. We don't seem to have the term "Wikiproject attack", and attacking a whole project without bothering to investigate the matter more fully is not right. She made baseless assumptions, at someone's RFA no less, and that is what I am criticing, not merely her opinion. But time to move on. BR, I wish you the best in you RFA. - BilCat (talk) 06:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

List of armored cruisers of Germany

I finished up the article and moved it into article space. I'm going to be pretty busy for the next month or so, so I'm going to let it sit for a while before it goes to A-class and FLC. Thanks for helping out with it. Parsecboy (talk) 15:46, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and in case you're interested, what I'm thinking of eventually doing is moving List of cruisers of Germany to Cruisers of Germany, which will be more of an overview of German cruiser design and operational use from circa 1880 to 1945 with sub-lists at List of light cruisers of Germany, List of heavy cruisers of Germany, etc. Essentially, the idea is the main "list" article won't be a list, it'll just be what would have been the introduction section of the List of cruisers of Germany article, with all of the subsections split off into their own lists. Parsecboy (talk) 15:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Ohhh. That's not a bad idea to adopt for my South American dreadnoughts so it includes the arms race but also everything else... Ed  20:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

No worries. Glad I was able to help out! Those old german ACs (especially Fürst Bismarck) are some of my favourite ships. That organisation scheme makes sense, too (but don't forget List of protected cruisers of Germany! ;) ). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:33, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Your RfA

Just wanted to say that I'm sorry if my post at RSN results in your not gaining the tools at this time. In trying to get clarification for the use of JB as a source for aircraft histories, it was not my intention to further derail your RfA, although IMHO that had already been derailed by the extensive off-topic conversation there. Currently, you're on 84%, which is a pass, but it seems a pity that the opposes will be greater than they might otherwise have been. Mjroots (talk) 07:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

No worries, man. Sometimes life happens; it's cool. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:06, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Personally I would like to see Misplaced Pages mature as a project to the point where RfA doesn't include pointed character assassination. - Ahunt (talk) 12:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Concur. I've seen a number of good editors leave the project because of unjustifiable occurances at their RFAs. It's sad that such bad behavior is permitted in the name of "opinions", especially in what was an off-topic issue not unique to you in anyway. - BilCat (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree the conduct there by one or two editors has been nasty, mean-spirited and vitriolic. The nastiness at RfA is just one reason why I declined an invitation to be put though it previously. It seems to me ironic that the process to get into my nation's military, where I had a lot of far more potent "tools" in my hands, was far less rigorous and certainly less nasty than that of RfA on Misplaced Pages. Add to that anything that an admin could do here can be undone, not so the work I was doing for two decades and I don't see the need for all the rough treatment. - Ahunt (talk) 14:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Template:Radioplane aircraft

BR, I've created a navbox at Template:Radioplane aircraft, and intend to sart an article on the company in time. Since you've done a lot of work on the missile and drone navboxes, I thought you night be more familar with Radioplane's products than I,a nd could help to expand the navbox to cover the myraid designations used. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 13:20, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I'll take a look at it as soon as I get a chance. The designations there are a disgusting mess, aren't they? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:15, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

And thank you. I know you've had other matters commanding your attention, so I'm not expecting immediate help. I had noticed there wasn't a comapny article or a navbox, and the navbox was the easiest thing to create in a short time. Thankfully, we've know deadlines for articles and templates. - BilCat (talk) 05:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Picture of iranian fighter

Hi, My name is Darios I am User of Czech wiki ] . I wrote a article about Saeqeh fighter ] . I would like to add some picture of this aircraft. Is it possible to add this one?] Please contact me here ] Thank you for your help.--Darios (talk) 14:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

two missed categories

FYI, you missed Category:Modern mortars and Category:Modern nuclear bombs of the United States in your recent renames/deletions of "modern" weapons categories. They were tagged, but not nominated. --Mike Selinker (talk) 15:36, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

• Egads. Thanks for catching that! I'll list them right away. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

The 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

		The 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Congratulations to The Bushranger! Over 100 articles that you created or expanded have been featured on the "Did you know..." section of the main page. Keep up the good work! 28bytes (talk) 00:25, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Prep2

The lead picture in prep2 doesn't seem to work in 100x100px (tried to crop, but still not happy). It is a possible quirky hook for another set, isn't? Materialscientist (talk) 04:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hmmm. That's a good point, actually. I'll swap it out. Thanks for the tip. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:24, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Done. And I didn't even realise the replacement hook was one of yours until I went to transfer the DYKmake! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Brian Keselowski

On 20 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Brian Keselowski, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Andy Lally and Brian Keselowski are competing for Rookie of the Year in the 2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for John Lajba

On 20 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Lajba, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that replicas of the Harley J. Earl Trophy, named after NASCAR's second commissioner, are sculpted by John Lajba and awarded to the winners of the Daytona 500? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for NASCAR National Commissioner

On 20 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article NASCAR National Commissioner, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that replicas of the Harley J. Earl Trophy, named after NASCAR's second commissioner, are sculpted by John Lajba and awarded to the winners of the Daytona 500? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Patrick Sheltra

On 20 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Patrick Sheltra, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Patrick Sheltra, the 2010 ARCA Racing Series champion, was the first owner-driver to win the series title since Benny Parsons in 1969? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Invitation

Hello! Thank you for all your work on NASCAR related articles. Since then I would like you to join us at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject NASCAR. If you would like to please join here, and if you would like to recieve a production of the newsletter, please add your name here. You may also like to display {{User WP NASCAR}}. By the way, congrats on the DYKs. Nascar1996 04:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Joining up. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Volume LVIX, January 2011

Your Military history Newsletter Project News: From the editors Articles: The month's featured and A-class Milhist content Members: Contest results, A-class medal recipients Editorial: EyeSerene discusses "Writing neutrally for Misplaced Pages"

RFA

Hi, as its late in the day I didn't want this to get lost in the mist, so to speak. As there is some degree of oppose comments and some neutral also, I am neutral ish myself, would you make a comment there to accept recall in some form, just as a good faith declaration? Off2riorob (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Consider it done. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I went bold and supported, take your time, be an invisible mopping admin and learn the ropes and enjoy. Off2riorob (talk) 23:27, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

A consensus has been reached by your peers that you should be an admin. I have made it so. Please review Misplaced Pages:Administrators' reading list and keep up the great work. Sincerely, Kingturtle = (talk) 05:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Congratulations! I look forward to bothering you with my admin requests in the near future! :-) - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• • Ditto! Now, van you move ... :) - BilCat (talk) 06:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Oh, I could move. But I think instead I'll just keep sitting right here. ;P - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:22, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks everybody! :-D - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• 

  Congratulations! Uniform issue T-shirt for you. Mjroots (talk) 06:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Heh. I'll wear it proudly. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Congrats! StrPby (talk) 07:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:22, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Congratulations!--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Thank you! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• YES! Congratulations – I know you will wield the mop well! Ed  09:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Ed! It's an honor to be able to wield the mop and defend Misplaced Pages. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• I'll just offer my congratulations too. Although I didn't support, I have no doubt you'll make a fine admin and hopefully won't get too stressed! Good luck for the future Worm 09:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks. :) The WikiStress meter is something I'm going to be keeping a close eye on, you can be sure. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Congatualtions and thanks for donating your time and effort to Misplaced Pages. We sincerly appreciate your efforts. - Hydroxonium (H₃O) 09:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'll add my congratulations as well - look forward to requests to block, move pages, etc. - Ahunt (talk) 12:32, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Well done Bushranger it will be nice to have another admin share the work on the aircraft project and being in a slightly different time zone will be a great help to the project. MilborneOne (talk) 13:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Good luck with your new job! I'm sure you will do fine. Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Congrats! If I had known about the RfA while it was still active, I would have offered my support. bahamut0013_deeds 14:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Congrats. I'm glad you decided to run and I'm sure DYK will be more efficient with your help. Let me know if you need a hand with anything, and feel free to raid my monobook.js. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Excellent! Happy to hear you now have keys to the janitor's closet! Binksternet (talk) 14:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• • Thanks everybody! :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 15:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Con-*sneeze*-grat-*cough*-ulations Bushra-*sneeze*-nger! Sorry I'm very sick today. --Perseus8235 16:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
      • Oh, yeah – take HJ's thought and do it (I'm assuming you use vector, there are different pages for monobook etc.). Some of the tools, like the AfD closing script, are invaluable to admins. :-) I've got that and a DRV closing script if you'd like to use them. Ed  16:24, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
        • Congratulations! I know you'll be a great admin.-RHM22 (talk) 17:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
          • I'd like to add my congratulations—I have no doubt you'll wield the mop well! wackywace 19:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
            • Thanks y'all. Ed - I actually use MonoBook. Can't stand Vector! =P - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• importScript('User:Ameliorate!/dykeasymode.js'); // User:Ameliorate!/dykeasymode.js
• importScript('User:Dr pda/prosesize.js'); // User:Dr pda/prosesizebytes.js
• importScript('User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js'); // User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD
• importScript('User:Lifebaka/closedrv.js'); // User:Lifebaka/closedrv.js

In order, they make credit-giving easier (if the DYK bot dies), lets you see the proze size of an article, makes closing AfDs easier, and makes closing DRVs easier. Ed  23:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I'll certainly see about adding those. Right now, though, I'm waiting for whatever broke Twinkle et al to get fixed. Grr. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

U.S. Route 19 & U.S. Route 19E in North Carolina

Your R3 sensor needs recalibration. Did you check what linked to the page? How about the talk page for the user that did the erroneous page move? The redirect will need deleting so that Dough4872 can move the page back, but it won't be an R3. I'm going to let him undo his mess because there are a dozen other related page moves, redirects and article edits. —UncleDouggie (talk) 07:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• I did indeed check what linked to the page, and fixed the links that were redirects to the page before deleting it, bar the Misplaced Pages 1.0 team pages, which I assumed a bot or somebody involved in the project should get. I'll make a note to always check the user talk page first from now on; apologies, and thanks for the note. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

  How can a bot fix something if there's no redirect for it to follow? One of the purposes of redirects is to prevent such breakage. That said, I now see that you're a newly minted admin. I hate it when others jump on something a new admin has done and here I've gone and done it myself! Please accept my apologies for not using the utmost kindness. —UncleDouggie (talk) 08:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

  • Well, I assumed (there's that word again, whoops!) that the bot would simply remove redlinks, but I do see your point. Apology accepted, and no worries! :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

    Just to be clear, even if you had changed the editorial links, this is a redirect that shouldn't have been deleted because it's not a "Recently-created, implausible redirect" per R3. "Recently created" in this case refers to when the original page was created, not the redirect. There could be many incoming links on the web that we're not aware of. Also, it's not implausible. I've edited this article and it's very likely that I would try to search for it using the old name. Without the redirect, I would have no way to find where it went unless I remembered the exact punctuation to look it up in the page move log. In this case of course, I happened to have it on my watchlist. —UncleDouggie (talk) 08:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Ah. Those are good points, and I'll certainly bear them in mind when coming across redirects from now on. Thanks for the help! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:32, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Awikipro

As an admin who is online NOW, could you take a look at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#user:Awikipro spamming his services as a professional editor? This "professional wiki editor" is spamming his services to any and every new account he can find. mass reversion of his "welcome" template for many user talk pages may be needed. WuhWuzDat 08:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh dear. That is a problem. But I just got the tools a couple of hours ago and I'm still feeling them out - I will second that opinion at AN/I though! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

User:Shello43534543

I gave this user a warning on not using his account for spamming purposes. Unless his behavior has continued after I gave this warning, could you consider unblocking him to give him a chance at contributing constructively? I know that sometimes newcomers do not understand the policies that guide Misplaced Pages, and that it can be hard to adjust at first. Of course, if his behavior has continued, keep the block in place, but perhaps consider topic banning him before an outright block (Remember WP:DBN). Regards,--  Novus  Orator  11:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, I took a look at his contribs before banning him - inserting a full paragraph about "buy NFL Jerseys from " into multiple articles on a range of topics sounds fairly blatant. However, given everything (and now fully caffinated), I decided to shorten the block to expire this afternoon, and we'll see what happens. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 15:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Gaokelanqiu and Gklq

Can you please have a look at these articles. I have tagged them both for WP:CSD, but I see that you have deleted at least one of them before. It seems that the creator, User talk:Eyxtsai has removed the CSD tags him or herself without complying with the policy relating to article creators removing these tags and using "hang-on" tags instead several times and has vandalized your user page as well. Looking at their Special:Contributions/Eyxtsai it seems this is hoax/vandalism-only account and I would ask you to consider deleting both these articles and blocking them. - Ahunt (talk) 12:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I was willing to WP:AGF that it was just a well-meaning newbie last night (plus needed sleep), but given the repeated offenses, I've blocked them for 48 hours. Also, heh, my first user-page vandalism. Thanks Bil for catching it! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 15:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of it! Now you qualify to proudly add this userbox:

Code	Result
{{User:Tasc0/Userboxes/Vandalized|1}}	This user talk page has been vandalized 1 time.	Usage

It correctly identifies the type of page it is placed on! - Ahunt (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Removal of speedy on

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that your reason for removal of my G12 speedy tag on Jurong West Bus Interchange (edit summary: rm speedy tag - the site claimed as being copied from is another Misplaced Pages article) was incorrect. Unless it's properly attributed, the article is a copyvio. Misplaced Pages:Copying within Misplaced Pages has more information about this. I'm not going to restore the speedy, though. I'll leave that up to you... --- c y m r u . l a s s 00:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, that is a fair point. Not sure I'd call it a copyvio, but that is a problem. I think I know an alternative way to fix it. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually...looking it over more thoroughly, copy policy or not it appears to need to be deleted anyway - as the only change was replacing "east" with "west". And therefore it's not only G12 based on the copy policy, but A10... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:29, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

All right, sounds good to me! --- c y m r u . l a s s 02:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Removal of the IARP article

Dear senior editor, the article on the International Aging Research Portfolio (IARP) was removed on G21 copyright violation. It was submitted by the technical director of the project, Konstantin Romantsov. He is new to Misplaced Pages and does not know how to deal with the issue. Neither do I, because Wiki changed a lot since my last edit a few years ago. The IARP system is open-access and non-profit, there is never any advertising. Any part of it can be taken without a license. It was built by volunteers to help advance aging research and specifically cancer and Alzheimers. The resource is very much like PubMed.Org, but it is independent and not funded by any government. Over 50 people contributed to the project, but it is not a legal entity and there is no owner. A wiki entry is important, because it will be easier for scientists to find it. Can you please let us know how to fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnamo (talk • contribs) 03:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you want to use the exact copyrighted text from your website, you need to contact OTRS to grant permission for it to be used. I'm a relatively new admin, so you might want to talk to somebody more experienced - User:The ed17 or User:Materialscientist might be able to help. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:30, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Dear The Bushranger, if you check the article, only a part of it was taken from About of the website, most of it was original. Can you bring it back and Konstantin will remove the sections from About and replace them with 100% original content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.123.231.129 (talk) 10:27, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I've restored the article as a stub in a userbox sandbox here. I must caution you, though, that the site does not appear to be notable by Wikipedian standards, and that editing a page about something you are closely associated with is strongly discouraged. I'd strongly reccomend reading WP:CRYSTAL, WP:PRIMARY, WP:RS and WP:GNG before proceeding as well. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

LodgeNet redirects

Hello, I have a concern about the redirects I marked to speedily delete. I used a deletion rationale I believed to be accurate because of the fact that no articles link to it. Would the standard {{db}} have been the most appropriate template to apply or another? Also, could you delete the lowercase versions, since they are not correct? I noticed you just became an administrator yesterday, so it would be a big help. Readopedia (talk) 05:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

The general consensus is that redirects are cheap, and there's no harm in leaving them. The lowercase versions actually help - if somebody comes across one on the Web, or types it in in lowercase, it'll redirect them to the page at the correct title. :) (Don't worry if some are "double redirects" at the moment, a bot fixes those.) As a rule, unless it's a wildly implausible term, it's best to leave a redirect in place. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

WP:NASCAR Newsletter (February 2011)

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Thanks!

Thanks for deleting all my old userspace drafts. I have been meaning to tag them for a while but never got around to it till today. Congrats of the adminship, too. Looks like you're already making good use of the mop! --E♴ (talk) 02:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• No worries, glad to help. :) And thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Arizona 404 and 505...

That editor created a half-dozen redirects to the 505 article, all of which I've tagged for deletion. Imzadi 1979 → 05:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Gaah. I'm on the case! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Imzadi 1979 → 06:24, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion decline

Re: Your determination here, The administrator deciding the same for Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs in Union County, Ohio decided differently. I would argue these categories are not the type we should have around empty. For one, these categories are not intended to become empty on occasion. I guess the normal use for this category would be that someone finds an article related to the US virgin islands and decides that it doesn't have enough pictures, so tags it. At some point, all articles in that location will have enough pictures so a category like this becomes unnecessary (and empty). Might it get new members in the future? Yes, but it can be recreated or restored if that happens. I would really view this as a G6 deletion once a category like this becomes empty. Perhaps you could reconsider? 69.59.200.77 (talk) 19:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'd contend that there is a difference between a county-level pics needed category, and a state/territory-level pics-needed category. There are other categories of this type in existiance that already have the the "maintience category - may be empty, please do not delete" tag; in addition, the imageneeded template automatically add pages to the "photos needed in VI" category if checked. Deleting the category would, therefore, break the template. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:07, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
  • By "break the template" do you mean it would simply add the page to a redlinked category? I don't think that would be "breaking" it, but rather just showing that it needs to be re-created or restored, a fairly simple task. I think I'm more of an eventualist thinking that, assuming we had every VI article possible and they were all featured status, this category would essentially be useless and would never be populated (except perhaps for an article about a recent event in the VI) so I think it would definitely qualify for G6/C1 then. Now that's obviously not the case yet, but I think it is hard to place a subjective standard like that on determining when to delete it, and the regular 4 day C1 standard should probably apply. This could very well go months, or even years, without being populated. Finally, as for "there are similar categories with the "do not delete as empty" template", I don't doubt that is the case. However, I will also contend that the empty category template being placed is not something patrolled by many users and someone could probably add that to many "borderline" categories such as these and nobody would think twice, whether that should actually be the case or not. 69.59.200.77 (talk) 19:48, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
    • I can understand your point, and agree that there is a "borderline". IMHO this straddles it though - if it's going to be deleted, it might be best to have a discussion at WP:CFD about the matter? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

CoI?

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY Misplaced Pages:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard— Preceding unsigned comment added by Unotretre (talk • contribs) 21:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Oobi at Work

Why did you delete the page Oobi at Work? It is not vandalism or any other type of vandalism-related things. The videos are real videos on YouTube, and I have watched them. The information was all found on Oobi at Work Wiki (a site created by the creator of the Oobi at Work videos), and the episodes, characters, plots, and other information sources on the article were all from that site. I even stated in my first edit summary that the page could be flagged for cleanup, because it was the first article I started on my own. I am sorry about the infobox template if it is wrong...I have no experience editing in "Source" mode all the time, considering I work on Wikia more than Misplaced Pages. Please tell me about any questions you have about the article's quality standards if you need to. --Weemer (talk) 22:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• The concern about the page is that the subject is likely not notable, and the specific result that led to it being deleted under the CSD criterion is that the page made no credible assertion of their being notable. I do agree that it was a borderline case for CSD, however the article merely stated that "these exist, based on X, and are on YouTube". WP:ITEXISTS is insufficient rationaile for a Misplaced Pages page on a subject; other wikis (or, for that matter, Misplaced Pages itself) are not reliable sources, and information provided by the subject of a page or its creator is a primary source and thus does not establish notability. Now, as I said, this was a borderline A7 case; if you still believe, considering the above guidelines, that the videos deserve a page, I can undelete the article and allow it to go through the full AfD process to determine if it should be kept. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
  • I do believe that the video series deserves a page, even considering the guidelines you typed. I think an article should be created about the videos because, as stated by the series' creator Oobiatwork, that the series will continue on until Autumn 2011, meaning that the series may become a large event in YouTube videos. Please undelete the page, --Weemer (talk) 23:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
    • I've undeleted the page, however I believe it should go through the full AfD process, and have nominated it, given the article unfortunatly appears to fail Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines. Videos hosted on YouTube are explicitly stated as failing Internet content notability guidelines. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:24, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Goalzz

• Why you deleted the wikipage Goalzz!!!?? it is the first arabic sports website in the Middle East!!! According to Alexa,It is ranked 298 worldwide! If you can send to me the content of the page you deleted, please send it to me. --Salah Almhamdi (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Being the first Arabic-lanugage sports website does not establish notability, nor does an Alexa rating; the page as it was was also nothing more than a promotional page for the site. However I will restore the page to your userspace for it to be worked on and improved. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:10, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
    • The page has been restored to your userspace here. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
      • Thank you! You are an understanding editor. --Salah Almhamdi (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

2nd opinion needed.

I'm having some issues with a reviewer over at Talk:Tupolev Tu-75/GA1. As an aviation guy who's worked on a lot articles on prototypes, I'd appreciate your input whenever you get a chance.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:29, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Will do! Funny that, I was just about to ask you to take another look at JB-4, since I've added some information you mentioned in its B-class review and wondered if it could stand a bump up. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:30, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Danke

Thanks so much for helping out with that page protection. It's been a source of endless annoyance (although it did serve as a good way to track the editors who would go on to vandalize disney articles.) Danke!--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Glad to help! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:20, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Move

Hi, The Talk:Nativity_of_Jesus#Requested_move requested move is over 7 days old. Could you close it please? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 18:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Consider it done. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 10:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. History2007 (talk) 10:10, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jeff Krogh

On 28 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jeff Krogh, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Jeff Krogh was credited with winning a NASCAR Winston West Series race even though he finished 35th in the event? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

DYK 50 Medal

		The 50 DYK Nomination Medal
		For finding the wheat among the chaff and bringing it to DYK, the Project thanks you. The Interior (Talk) 19:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Glad to help! :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:05, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

86.174.141.58

Thanks for jumping on that IP editor so quickly - they're removing all the warnings from their talk page, tho. This is generally the case with them every time they get blocked - FYI... TheRealFennShysa (talk) 21:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Felix

His demand for an "apology" for an SPI that certainly looked reasonable to file, is not only another nail in his coffin, it's also kind of familiar. There have been other editors that demanded some sort of retribution against those who filed SPI's that turned out "negative". That, of course, isn't done. I'm not saying he's anyone else's sock. Just that it's a somewhat-too-familiar ploy used by indefees sometimes. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 21:31, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I did notice that. I don't see the need for anybody to apologise for good-faith actions taken on the basis of the evidence, particulary since I already said, quite honestly too, that I'm happy the CU turned up negative. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of article

You recently deleted American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry because it was tagged with {{db-spam}}. The problem is, this was not a new page. It was an existing page on a notable organization that had recently had some spammy content added to it. I feel the more reasonalble thing to do would be to restore it, and revert to a pre-spam revision. This one should suffice. Would you consider undeleting please? --Selket 23:00, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

...aaah, I see. Another case of an IP drive-by tagging the article. Sorry about that, undeletion coming up in a jiffy! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:01, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Indira Awaaz Yojana

Thank you for the speedy deletion of the above article
abhishek singh (talk) 23:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Please help me to restore the page DaruDar

I wanted to make the translation from russian wiki article Дару~дар into English but the new page Darudar was deleted very quickly. And it was late to add the translate tag - karaboz

I've restored the page to your userspace here. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you The Bushranger! But what's the next? Is this article shown for people who can translate and who wants to do that? And what should be done to transfer the article in common space from my private zone? Who should I ask about this, when and how? - karaboz

No problem! Glad to help. If the translation tag is on the page it will be in the appropriate categories; however, being a userspace page, you might want to contact one of the editors here, who have expressed an ability to translate pages from Russian to English. Once the page is translated, you can simply use the 'Move' tool to move it back to the original name, or use requested moves to ask for help. Good luck! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 February newsletter

So begins round two of the WikiCup! We now have eight pools, each with eight random contestants. This round will continue until the end of April, when the top two of each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers of those remaining, will make it to round three. Congratulations to The Bushranger (submissions) (first, with 487 points) and Hurricanehink (submissions) (second, with 459), who stormed the first round. Casliber (submissions) finished third with 223. Twelve others finished with over 100 points- well done to all of you! The final standings in round one can be seen here. A mere 8 points were required to reach round two; competition will no doubt be much more fierce this round, so be ready for a challenge! A special thanks goes, again, to Jarry1250 (submissions) for dealing with all bot work. This year's bot, as well as running smoothly, is doing some very helpful things that last year's did not. Also, thanks to Stone (submissions) for some helpful behind-the-scenes updating and number crunching.

Some news for those who are interested- March will see a GAN backlog elimination drive, which you are still free to join. Organised by WikiProject Good articles, the drive aims to minimise the GAN backlog and offers prizes to those who help out. Of course, you may well be able to claim WikiCup points for the articles you review as part of the drive. Also ongoing is the Great Backlog Drive, looking to work on clearing all of the backlogs on Misplaced Pages; again, incentives are offered, and the spirit of friendly competition is alive, while helping the encyclopedia is the ultimate aim. Though unrelated to the WikiCup, these may well be of interest to some of you.

Just a reminder of the rules; if you have done significant work on content this year and it is promoted in this round, you may claim for it. Also, anything that was promoted after the end of round one but before the beginning of round two may be claimed for in round two. Details of the rules can be found on this page. For those interested in statistics, a running total of claims can be seen here, and a very interesting table of that information (along with the highest scorers in each category) can be seen here. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 23:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Belated congratulations

Belatedly, please accept my congratulations on your adminship. If there's anything that I or the Foundation staff can do to assist you, please let me know! Best wishes, Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 04:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, sir! :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Belated congratulations from me as well - it's well deserved. Nick-D (talk) 11:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Tarek Bahgat Abaza

Additionally, you advanced a position at the AfD after relisting it. As a general rule of thumb, after admins relist discussions, they do not participate in them to avoid accusations of impropriety. See Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2011 January 29 for instance and Ron Ritzman's comment at 23:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC). Cunard (talk) 08:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Ah. I was unaware of that, I'll certainly keep that in mind from now on, and I'll strike my !vote as soon as I get done posting this. As for the relisting, I gave serious thought to just out-and-out closing it on the spot, but thought that allowing it to run through another week and collect more delete !votes might cut down on the protests from the vocal !keep lobby. Now I realise that was the wrong move, of course...ah well. Sorry about that, and I'll try to be a bit bolder in the future. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:00, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

No worries. I notice you're a newly minted admin so making mistakes is typical. I agree that you should have closed instead of relisted the AfD (your vote looked like a closing statement). The SPAs will never be satisfied when their precious article is deleted in one week's time. A word of warning: Statements like "allowing it to run through another week and collect more delete !votes ..." may get you into trouble at DRV. Though you have pure intentions of establishing a firmer consensus, this statement implies that you've had a strong bias prior to relisting the discussion and relisted it in the hopes of increasing the chances of getting the result you want. This is obviously not the case since the consensus was to delete prior to the relist. However, if you make such a statement in a future AfD, some editors will use it at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review to argue for overturning the close. Just a little friendly advice from someone who has observed DRV for a while. Cunard (talk) 09:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate that. I make a point to learn as much as I can from as many people as I can, so that at least when I make future mistakes they'll be new ones! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Improper Deletion of Sri Devananda Goudiya Math and Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math

Sir,

It apperars that the Article Sri Devananda Goudiya Math since, nominated for speedy deletion, it was deleted because of the reason that the article was a repost of material of another article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math that was previously deleted following a deletion debate.

Therefore, the questions arise that -

(1) What was the grounds, considered favourable, in said deletion debate, supporting deletion of the previous article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math and correspondingly the instant article Sri Devananda Goudiya Math also?

(2) Whether, such grounds has been established as valid grounds to deleted such of an Article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math as per Misplaced Pages's prevailing deletion policy?

To address these issues, let us look on the basis of which such deletion was taken effect. Accordingly, concerned deletion debate concluded the grounds as, (i) Non notable pilgrimage site (ii) have no independent reliable sources to comply with the policy on inclusion (iii) whether there was an independent article or a book written about the subject there could be a reason (iv) No third-party WP:RS to assert its notability (v) This particular Matha is not particularly notable (vi) whether readers can check that material in Misplaced Pages has already been published by a reliable source (vii) verifiability. Also see reviewers quotes below.

In short those grounds were (a) verifiability, not truth (b) independent reliable sources(c) policy on inclusion.

However, if Misplaced Pages's prevailing deletion policy is considered and the validity of the concerned deletion grounds need to be established, then reasonably it will rather be found that the decision in deleting the Article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math was improper and invalid. They have not considered the following:-

(1) Valid verifiability or policy on inclusion e.g. Maharaja, Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana (2005). Sri Navadvipa-dhama and Prominent Holy Places of the Gaudiya Vaisnavas in Sri Gauda-mandala. @ Gaudiya Vedanta Publications. p. 143-145. ISBN 81-86737-56-1.

(2) independent reliable sources e.g.

• Navadvipa: Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa Tourist Places to Visit for Religious
• Sacred Sites of India - 47 Navadip; Dhameswara Shri Chaitanya temple, Devananda Gaudiya Math
• Virtual Tours to Holy India - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
• New Zealand Hare Krishna Spiritual Resource Network
• Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa tourist places to visit for Religious...
• Broadcasting International Television - Isckon in Devananda Gaudiya Math with Srila Narayana...
• Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha Srila Gurudeva arrival

• The mother of the Gaudiya Mathas - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
• Navadvipa Parikrama 2010 - Sripad Madhava Maharaja translated into English Srila Gurudeva’s short Bengali discourse.
• Sri Srimad Bhakti Prajnana Kesava Goswami - The founder of Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
• The Historical Background - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha and Sri Gaudiya Vedanta Samiti
• VNN Editorial - Srila Sridhardev left his company by 1938-39 and started Devananda Gaudiya Math with Bhakti Prajnana Kesava Maharaja in 1940.
• Parikrama to Devananda Gaudiya Matha
• Navadvipa: Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa Tourist Places to Visit for Religious
• The Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Disciplic Succession and Its Unique Characteristics of Which We are a Part

Administrators/Reviewers quotes:-

User:Wikidas said, "Non notable pilgrimage site, too small and have no independent reliable sources to comply with the policy on inclusion. Wikidas© 23:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)".

He further said, "I guess if there was an independent article or a book written about the subject there could be a reason, or a possible reason to keep it."

User:Redtigerxyz said, "Searched the internet. Found no third-party WP:RS to assert its notability. The references in the article are not really RS. 1 mentions the temple in passing reference, the other calls it a "scared" place.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 15:11, 19 January 2011 (UTC)"

User:Wikidas further suggested me, "This particular Matha (out of hundreds) is not particularly notable. See: WP:V. "The threshold for inclusion in Misplaced Pages is verifiability, not truth; that is, whether readers can check that material in Misplaced Pages has already been published by a reliable source." I am sure you visited this building. But there are no sources for your claims. Can you please use google books or some other source and find more sources that are published by reliable publishers? . Wikidas© 10:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)"

The deletion was prejudiced and biased as well. A bonafide article such as Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math has been deleted by the inefficient observation of some biased administration that ultimately injuring Misplaced Pages.

Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 12:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Looking through those links, I don't believe that any of the sites, except possibly VNN, are reliable sources. Youtube, in particular, is not a reliable source. That said, if you believe the deletion was improper, you might want to consider deletion review. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations

		The WikiChevrons
		The WikiChevrons are hereby bestowed upon The Bushranger for his fine effort in the February 2011 Military History monthly article writing Contest, placing first with a total of 60 points from 14 articles. Well done! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Userspace Drafts

Thanks for deleting my old userspace drafts! I think there may be others I've forgotten about but I'll find them eventually :) --E♴ (talk) 14:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Can you please block User:Ouou9529, and User:Msmsmstruth too, Thanks, Passionless -Talk 02:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

The ducks are quacking. Done. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Anakites...Passionless -Talk 03:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

It's whack-a-mole! If one more pops up he'll get autoblocked on the IP. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

delete

Any possible way you can delete the main pages of the css and js talk pages you just deleted from my userspace? Ajl 02:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean this page? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

That and this one, please. Ajl 02:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

They're gone. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you much! Ajl 03:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Shucks, thank you. I'm glad that was entertaining to someone. I worry misquoting might later come around to bite me in the backside on this one, so it's good it had at least that benefit! - Vianello (Talk) 02:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Rs2010 jfp/Revere Security

Hi there, thanks for deleting the page. However I still see the page showing up in google search, is there anything that can be done to stop/prevent this ?? I was working on this page as a draft and the page was nominated for speedy delete and ever since then has been showing up in google search and it wont go away. Thanks in advance Rs2010 jfp (talk) 05:22, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

It'll go away in, oh, between 24-72 hours, most likely. Google's Spiders take a bit of time to make their way through Misplaced Pages and determine the page no longer exists. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for everything : ) Rs2010 jfp (talk) 05:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For your closure of this AfD.  -- Lear's Fool 05:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Qbone

Hello. I notice that on closing the AFD on Qbone you've redirected it to Pokémon: please note that it's already been redirected there twice before and twice reverted, which is why I took it to AFD. Thanks, Shire Reeve (talk) 08:21, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I only see one revert, but it's a fair point. My reasoning for redirecting was that it's a reasonable enough search term and long-established redirect; maybe semi-protecting might keep well-meaning IPs and new editors from doing it again? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, you're right: just one revert. Protection as a compromise is OK by me, thanks. Shire Reeve (talk) 08:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem, glad to help! :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

The Downlink: Issue 3

The Downlink
Your source for news on WikiProject Spaceflight	Issue 3, March 2011
Project News News from Orbit Article News Direction of the Project The Charts Europa Project News There have been very few discussions relating to the administration of the project in the last month, as things start to settle down after the merger. An invitation template has been created in an effort to attract new users to the project. Discussion was also held regarding the creation of a list of common templates, however no conclusions were reached. A proposal was made to implement an A-class assessment process, however editors are undecided about whether it would be best to copy the system used by another project such as WP:MILHIST, or to develop one specifically for the requirements of this project. User:ChiZeroOne has set up a collaboration page in his userspace, initially focussing on articles related to Skylab. Collaboration pages were at one point proposed as part of the structure of the Spaceflight project itself, however no consensus was achieved on the issue. If this collaboration is successful, it could open the door to a reevaluation of that situation. News from orbit Five orbital launches were conducted in February, out of nine planned. The first, that of the Geo-IK-2 No.11 satellite atop a Rokot/Briz-KM ended in failure after the upper stage malfunctioned. The Rokot has since been grounded pending a full investigation; the satellite is in orbit, but has been determined to be unusable for its intended mission. A replacement is expected to launch within the year. A general article on Geo-IK-2 satellites is needed, to supplement those on the individual satellites. A Minotaur I rocket launched USA-225, or NROL-66, on 6 February following a one-day delay. The second Automated Transfer Vehicle, Johannes Kepler, was successfully launched on 16 February to resupply the ISS. Docking occurred successfully on 24 February, several hours before Space Shuttle Discovery launched on its final flight, STS-133. Discovery docked with the ISS on 26 February, delivering the Leonardo module and an ExPRESS Logistics Carrier to the station. Following several delays, a Soyuz-2.1b/Fregat rocket launched the first Glonass-K1 satellite; Glonass-K1 No.11, on 26 February. It is currently unclear as to whether the satellite has received a Kosmos designation or not. Seven launches are expected to occur in March. On 4 March, the Glory satellite will launch atop a Taurus-XL 3110 rocket. Three CubeSats will be also be deployed by the Taurus; KySat-1, Hermes and Explorer-1 . KySat and Hermes require articles, whilst the article on Explorer-1 needs to be updated. This launch was originally scheduled for February, but following a scrubbed launch attempt, it was delayed. 4 March will also see the launch of the first flight of the second X-37B, atop an Atlas V 501. An article is needed for that flight, which will probably receive a USA designation once it reaches orbit. On 8 March, Discovery is expected to land, bringing to an end the STS-133 mission, and retiring from service 27 years after its maiden flight. On 11 March, a Delta IV Medium+(4,2) will launch the NROL-27 payload. Whilst the identity of this payload is classified, it is widely believed to be a Satellite Data System communications satellite, bound for either a molniya or geostationary orbit. An article for this payload is required. 16 March will see the return to Earth of Soyuz TMA-01M, carrying three members of the ISS Expedition 26 crew. A Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle is expected to deploy the Resourcesat-2, X-Sat and YouthSat spacecraft during a launch in March. The flight has been delayed several times, and was expected to have launched last month, however it is currently scheduled to occur no earlier than 20 March. On 29 March, an Ariane 5ECA will launch the Yahsat 1A and New Dawn communications satellites. Both currently require articles. On 30 March, a Soyuz-FG will launch the manned Soyuz TMA-21 mission to the International Space Station carrying three Expedition 27 crewmembers. On 31 March, a Proton-M/Briz-M launch will carry the SES-3 and Kazsat-2 spacecraft into orbit, in the first dual-launch of commercial communications satellites on a Proton. Several other launches may occur in March, however their status is unclear. Last month, a Long March 3B rocket was expected to launch two navigation satellites; Compass-M2 and Compass-M3, however this launch did not take place. It is unclear if it has been delayed to March, or further. The launch of the Tianlian 2 communications satellite on a Long March 3C may also be conducted in March, or possibly April. Both the Compass and Tianlian launches would occur from the same launch pad, which requires a turnaround of almost a month between launches, so it is unlikely that both will happen in March. A Safir launch, which had been expected in February, now appears to have been delayed to April, but given the secrecy of the Iranian space programme, this is unclear. Article news Discussion regarding the merger of articles on launch and landing modes seems to have stagnated, with no consensus being reached on any existing proposal. A discussion regarding changes in the sizes of Soviet and American rockets during the 1950s and early 1960s was conducted, with claims that rockets became smaller in that period being dismissed, however it was noted that smaller rockets were developed with equivalent capacity to older ones were developed, as well as much larger ones with increased capacities. Category:Derelict satellites orbiting Earth was created as a result of discussion surrounding the categorisation of derelict satellites. Concerns have also been raised that satellites are being listed as no longer being in orbit whilst still in orbit and derelict, and a discussion was held on how their status could be verified. An effort to categorise spacecraft by the type of rocket used to launch them is underway, however the categorisation of satellites by country of launch was rejected. It was reported that a sidebar has been created for articles related to the core concepts of spaceflight. Editors noted that it should only be used for core concepts, and not where it would conflict with an infobox. An anonymous user requested the creation of an article on moon trees. It was pointed out that the subject already had an article, and a redirect was created at the title proposed by the anonymous user. Concerns were raised regarding the quality of the article Japan's space development. Editors noted that the article appeared to be a poorly-translated copy of an article from the Japanese Misplaced Pages, although there have been some signs of improvement. Discussion regarding moving the article to Japanese space program is ongoing, however a move request has not yet been filed. A particular concern was raised regarding false claims in the article Van Allen radiation belt. In one case a scientist to whom one of the claims had been attributed was contacted, and clarified that he had made a remark to that effect as a joke in the 1960s, but was not entirely sure how or why it had been included in the article. Other concerns were raised before the discussion moved to WikiProject Astronomy. A question was raised regarding the copyright status of images credited to both NASA and ESA, particularly with regard to images of the launch of the Johannes Kepler ATV. The discussion reached no general conclusions, however it was found that the specific images that were suggested for inclusion in the article could be used, since they were explicitly declared to be in the public domain. A template, Template:Spaceflight landmarks (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), was created to cover landmarks in the United States that are related to spaceflight. Several sources of public-domain NASA images were also discussed, and it was noted that almost all NASA images are public domain, however there are some exceptions. It has been proposed that Leonardo MPLM be merged with Permanent Multipurpose Module since the two cover separate uses of the same spacecraft. A review of the article STS-88 has also been requested. Three new Good Articles have been listed: Mission: Earth, Voyage to the Home Planet, Bold Orion and SA-500D. Orion (spacecraft) was delisted after concerns that it contained out-of-date content. SA-500D is currently undergoing good article reassessment, using the community reassessment method, after the review of its good article nomination was criticised for being lenient and not sufficiently thorough. Mir, Mark E. Kelly and Reaction Engines Skylon have been nominated for Good Article status and are awaiting review, whilst List of Mir spacewalks is undergoing a peer review with a view to it becoming a featured list. Editorial: Direction of the Project Well folks, its now been more than three months since the discussion that reformed the space-related WikiProjects, and in that time we've had a number of achievements we can be rightly proud of; we've gathered members up to a total of 43, improved awareness of the project via an interview in the Signpost, and refreshed the spaceflight portal into an attractive, up-to-date and useful page. Meanwhile, User:ChiZeroOne has made a sterling effort in clearing up talk page templates belonging to prior projects, we've managed to sort out various policies, started work on rearranging our templates, and User:GW Simulations has begun this excellent monthly newsletter for us. However, there are a few areas of the project that seem to be passing by the wayside, specifically the areas dedicated to fostering collaboration on articles and article sets between the project members, so here I present a call for more collaboration on the project. Presumably, the lack of collaboration is due to folks not being aware of what's going on, so here's a quick rundown of some of the ways you get involved in the group effort. Firstly, and most importantly, it'd be fantastic if more members got involved in the discussions ongoing at the project's main talk page, found at WT:SPACEFLIGHT. There are several discussions ongoing there, such as the relaunch of the spacecraft template, requests for assistance with various assessment and copyright queries, and conversations regarding category organisations, which affect many more articles, and thus editors, than are currently represented in the signatures so far. Secondly, it was established earlier on in the project's formation that a great way to attract more editors would be to develop some good or featured topics. There are a couple of efforts ongoing to try to see this idea to fruition, such as the Space stations working group and ChiZeroOne's own collaboration page, currently focussed on Skylab-related articles. These pages, however, have been notably lacking in activity lately, which is a shame, as their aims, given enough editor input, would really see the project furthering itself. Similarly, there are a number of requests for assessment for articles to be promoted to GA class, among other things, on the Open tasks page, which lists all of the activities needing input from members. If everyone could add this page to their watchlists and swing by it regularly, we could power through the good topics in extremely short order! Other things that could do with being added to people's watchlists include Portal:Spaceflight/Next launch‎, the many templates at Template:Launching/Wrappers and the task list at Portal:Spaceflight/Tasks. Finally, I'd like to try and get people involved in finally settling the organisational problem we have with reference to the task forces and working groups. Whilst the Timeline of spaceflight working group is a continuation of the old Timeline of spaceflight WikiProject and thus is ticking over nicely and the space stations working group has been mentioned previously in this editorial, the task forces (Human spaceflight and Unmanned spaceflight) in particular are currently dead in the water. I'm unsure as to whether or not this is because people are unaware of their existence, they clash too much with one another and the rest of the project or because people don't see a need for them, but if interested parties could make themselves known and others voice suggestions for getting rid of them, we can decide either if they're worth keeping and get them running again, or do away with a layer of bureaucracy and close them down. Any thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. In summary, then, we've got a great project going here, with a nice set of articles, a good editor base and lots of ways of getting involved. Thus, a plea goes out to everyone to get involved, get editing with the other project members, and hopefully we'll see ourselves take off in a manner not dissimilar to the trajectory dear old Discovery took last week. Many thanks for everyone's hard work so far, and poyekhali! :-) The Charts Since it is useful to keep track of the most viewed pages within the project's scope, it seems like a good idea to continue this feature, which was originally included in last month's issue as a one-off. Satellite was the most popular article of February, up six places from seventh in December. STS-133 was the highest climber in the top 10, up 78 places from 88. January's most popular article, Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, dropped seven places to eighth. Moon landing remains ahead of moon landing conspiracy theories for the second month in a row. Of the top ten, two articles are featured content, two are listed as Good Articles, and the remaining six are assessed as C-class. № Article Movement 1 Satellite ↑6 (7) 2 Space Shuttle ↑11 (13) 3 NASA ↑7 (10) 4 Neil Armstrong ↓1 (4) 5 Apollo 13 ↑4 (9) 6 Global Positioning System ↓1 (5) 7 International Space Station ↑5 (12) 8 Space Shuttle Challenger disaster ↓7 (1) 9 Apollo 11 ↓3 (6) 10 STS-133 ↑78 (88) For the full list of the top 1,500 popular pages within the project, see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Spaceflight/Popular pages (or the archived record for February). Selected Article: Europa Europa was a rocket developed by a multinational European programme in the 1960s. Consisting of British, French and German stages, it was intended to provide a European alternative to the US rockets used for the launch of most Western satellites to that date. Although the British Blue Streak first stage performed well on all flights, problems with the French and German stages, as well as the Italian-built payload fairing, resulted in the failure of all multistage test flights and orbital launch attempts. The programme was abandoned after the failure of the Europa II's maiden flight in 1971. The article Europa (rocket), describes it: “ The Europa rocket was an early expendable launch system of the European Launcher Development Organisation (ELDO), which was the precursor to the European Space Agency and its Ariane family of launchers. The programme was initiated by the UK and the first launch occurred in August 1967. Tasks were to be distributed between nations: the United Kingdom would provide the first stage (derived from the Blue Streak missile), France would build the second and Germany the third stage. The Europa programme was divided into 4 successive projects : Europa 1: 4 unsuccessful launches Europa 2: 1 unsuccessful launch Europa 3: Cancelled before any launch occurred Europa 4: Study only, later cancelled The project was marred by technical problems. Although the first stage (the British Blue Streak) launched successfully on each occasion, it was the second or third stage that failed. ” The article is currently assessed as start-class, and is missing a lot of information. It also lacks some basic features such as inline citations. Since Europa was a fairly major programme, enough information should be available to produce a much higher quality article, and it could probably be brought up to GA status with enough effort. Published by WikiProject Spaceflight, if you have any content you wish to include in future newsletters, please contribute

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FYI

I forgot to mention, I added a section on my Userpage where you can post your apology for accusing me of socking (here: User:Felixhonecker). No hurry but if you could get that up by end-of-week that would be great. Thanks! Felixhonecker (talk) 18:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)