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Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Disambiguation/Adopting disambiguation pages

• Updates of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Disambiguation/Adopting disambiguation pages seem to be flagging. • Ling.Nut

Is there a primary Stroud?

Two ongoing move discussions (Talk:Stroud, Gloucestershire#Requested move and Talk:Stroud (disambiguation)#Requested move) hinge on the question of whether Stroud, Gloucestershire is the primary topic for "Stroud". Comments welcome (I'm trying to combine the discussion at the first of those two venues).--Kotniski (talk) 09:54, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Na

User:AeronPeryton has questioned my familiarity with the disambiguation guidelines, specifically as they apply to Na. If reverted again, I will just tag the page for clean up for fresh eyes, but if anyone would like to chime in before that, please do. -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:12, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

There's an accusation worthy of a smile. Looks well handled, but on my watch list. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 17:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Have at. If you have a lot of time, you might also respond to AeronPeryton's dissertation on Talk:Na. I suspect any repetition of what I've already said coming from me will be lost. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Non-English characters in dab page, article page, redirect page names, up for RfC

See WT:Article titles#Non-Roman characters in redirects to articles, where an RfC has been opened on the use of non-English characters in page titles for disambiguation and redirect titles (and there appears to also be discussion about article titles) 76.66.203.138 (talk) 09:30, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Sirian

I hereby provide you the new disambig page Sirian which was a redirect to the Sirius Mystery. I also made Sirians a redirect to Sirian, and that page was previously a (pretty absurd) redirect to the Assyrian people, who are also called Syriacs. The reason for existence of the disambig Sirian is of course that there are myriads of myths, sagas and stories about extraterrestrial beings from the star Sirius. The topic is nearly not notable – at least not for me, so I won't cry if you decide the article existence is mote. Rursus dixit. (bork!) 11:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

The Great Backlog Drive

The Great Backlog Drive needs your help! Join our project by adding {{subst:The Great Backlog Drive}} to your mainspace and help us in our aim to reduce the backlogs!

Panyd 22:56, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Geier

Geier (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Alas, the article "owner" is resisting efforts to rid this article of things brought up merely in order to state that they have nothing at all to do with the article topic (Geier#William Butler Yeats) and a partial dump of a book catalogue (Geier#Prominent Authors with the Surname Geier). Witness the "Geier Glove" and "Geier Sausages" and the reference to Hitch (movie) in this revision of Geier hitch to see the pattern here. The attention of more editors is needed. Uncle G (talk) 13:05, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• • I'm suggesting that this needs the attention of more editors to even make that determination. Maybe it's anthroponymy, maybe it is surname disambiguation. But what it's been written as so far is just one giant incoherent grab bag of stuff some of which isn't even related to the purported subject at all. Uncle G (talk) 13:56, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

continued at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Anthroponymy#Geier

• • • • Please stop trying to hand this off to someone else and look at the article. Read Geier#Prominent Authors with the Surname Geier, Geier#Ship Names and Geier#Other Usages. Uncle G (talk) 14:11, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Please don't refactor other editors' talk page comments. I looked at the article. I figured out that it wasn't a disambiguation page, and I gave you good advice on where to solicit help. That is not "handing it off" -- the reason we have multiple WikiProjects on Misplaced Pages is because not all editors are familiar with or interested in every aspect of Misplaced Pages. If you want help creating Geier (disambiguation), we can help. if you want help cleaning up an anthroponymy article, the editors in the anthroponymy project can help (I hope). -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• • • • • • That's laughable. You're the one refactoring things around here, no-one else. In your latest edit you refactored out two of your own comments, which I've restored for you, making a nonsense of the conversation. Take your own advice. No-one else has touched your comments but you and you alone, whereas you've been busy removing your own and mine. And you obviously haven't given the article more than a superficial glance if you looked at lists of people, ships, and random other things called "Geier" and thought "That's not my problem. That's not disambiguation.". You're bureacratically wasting time with your repeated refactoring of this ongoing discussion, rather than addressing the problem at hand. You're certainly not being a help with the problem at hand in any way. Uncle G (talk) 14:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• This is daft - there are now "Main" templates pointing in both directions between two copies of the first part of this discussion. I've added something to the version at "Anthroponymy", because the discussion was supposed to be going there. I don't care where it's discussed but please ensure that there's only one ongoing discussion. PamD (talk) 15:03, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

  That is the proper place for it. The only discussion remaining here is to finish clarifying that surname articles are not disambiguation pages, in case there is still any confusion there. -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:58, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

I turned it into a disambiguation page. Fences&Windows 22:46, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Ancient (disambiguation) --> Antiquity_Antiquity-2010-11-27T16:27:00.000Z">

Currently, Ancient (disambiguation) and Ancients redirect to Antiquity, which, in turn, includes a number of proper nouns identifying entities (bands, fictional characters) as "Ancients". It seems to me that these should be two separate disambiguation pages. bd2412 T 16:27, 27 November 2010 (UTC)_Antiquity"> _Antiquity">

It gets worse: Ancient redirects to Ancient history, which has a hatnote pointing to Antiquity. Antiquities is an article and has no hatnote, despite the claim at the dab page that it includes the term. It's all a bit of a mess. PamD (talk) 17:23, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Let's separate out Ancient (disambiguation) and Antiquity (disambiguation), re-redirect Antiquity to Antiquities, and hatnote Antiquity (disambiguation) on Antiquities. bd2412 T 17:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk page tagging

There are roughly 14,396 disambiguation pages on the English Misplaced Pages that do not have associated talk pages. I have requested approval for a bot to fix this problem. Would some folks who are familiar with this WikiProject mind heading over to the request page and giving their two cents? Thanks! --Andrew Kelly (talk) 05:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Mind saying what the "real" problem is? I don't think seeing a red is a problem and a missing talk page is not a problem if nobody had anything to say. . . What am I missing? --John (User:Jwy/talk) 05:56, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I'm with John. In the absence of discussion, the absence of a Talk page is a good thing. Creating them just to let people know it's a disambiguation page is pointless, and also becomes "make work" during page moves. Since I do a lot of disambiguation page moves as part of the cleanup, malplaced, and incomplete disambiguation problem spaces, I'd prefer to leave empty Talk pages empty. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Chiming in on the "what's the point" angle: if I'm working on a dab page and see it has a talk page I'll click to look at it in case there has been any relevant discussion. It's a waste of time when there's nothing but a dab project template. I vote against such functionally-empty pages being created. PamD (talk) 13:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed bot

A bot is being proposed at Misplaced Pages:Bot requests#Dab and taxa update bots. Editors may wish to contribute to the discussion there. --NSH001 (talk) 22:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

RFD about what is now a disambiguation page, National Historic District

Some comments from wikipedians familiar with disambiguation policy would be welcome at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 December 5#National Historic District. A redirect at National Historic District was proposed for deletion, and an alternative of replacing that with a disambiguation page has been proposed.

Full disclosure: I am the one proposing deletion of the redirect or disambiguation page. The term "National Historic District" is not valid under any national historic designation program or any other regime; it is effectively a typo appearing in a scattered few small local nonprofit or commercial websites, posted by ignorant writers. None of the items offered under the proposed disambiguaton page are valid synonyms for the bogus phrase. There were about 50 wikipedia links to the bogus phrase which i have replaced, so now there are no links from mainspace. I suggest deletion of the phrase, to undermine future inappropriate usage of the phrase. Comments there welcome. --doncram (talk) 05:55, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Disambig templates

There's a discussion regarding disambig templates over at Misplaced Pages:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2010_December_7#Disambig_templates. Mhiji (talk) 02:32, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Sumi

Hi! I am not too familiar with disambiguation pages, but Sumi looks like a very unusual one and should probably be split into several articles. bamse (talk) 03:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

That looked like an old-style multistub; I've reverted the most recent edit and it now has a more typical appearance. --AndrewHowse (talk) 03:43, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

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